WWI Digest 4789 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Strutter (was Re: @ Gregg) by "Shane Weier" 2) Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg by "Shane Weier" 3) SiteFeedback and question by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 4) Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg by "Brent Theobald" 5) Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 6) BAT FK23 Bantam by Dave Fleming 7) Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg by "Shane Weier" 8) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Shane Weier" 9) Re: Squadron, Roden etc by Dave F 10) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Gregg Cooper" 11) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Shane Weier" 12) Re: and thinned with Naptha by "Bob Laskodi" 13) Any Info on the Fokker K.I? by "Brent Theobald" 14) Re: Any Info on the Fokker K.I? by "Bob Pearson" 15) Re: SiteFeedback and question by Steve Cox 16) Re: Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. by Morg17ms@aol.com 17) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 18) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Shane Weier" 19) RE: FW: RE: @ Gregg by "Gregg Cooper" 20) Re: Jasta 7 Albatros Help by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Squadron, Roden etc by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Gregg Cooper" 23) Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. by "Shane Weier" 24) Re: This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. by "Steven Perry" 25) =?GB2312?B?sru6w9Liy7w=?= by =?GB2312?B?u8bPyMn6?= <101alw@sina.com> 26) RE: Rigging Material by "John Ernst" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:39:42 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Strutter (was Re: @ Gregg) Message-ID: Matt asks: > > working on a Strutter right now, trying > > to figure out if the aft cockpit had a closeout.. > >What do you mean "closeout"? Fabric anti-buffet screen I expect Shane _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:52:01 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg Message-ID: Gregg says: >Here is what I have going on 1/48 Albatros stuff.... >Mark's drawings are essential! As is the Mikesh NASM book. >I have been in contact with an RC modeler from Oz with access to the D.V >down there. Mmmm, when you asked me about the control columns you should have asked about this as well. IIRC my walkaround photos of D.5390 include behind the seat. What I *don't* recall is a screen in there, because I distinctly recall discussing the markings on the ply interior and extent of varnishing with the curator at the time. >He has sent me a description, but no picture, of the aft cockpit "closeout" >made from fabric that snapped in place >all around the perimiter of the aft bulkhead, effectively sealing off the >rear fuselage. I have pictures of a similar screen on Pfalz D.XII D.2600 though.... (snip impressive list) >New control column, misc. other cockpit details, New ammo cans and ammo >chutes, NEW MOTOR, new detailed motor mount "shelf" including structural >ribs built-in, new engine covers with "beading" around the engine openings, >other motor compartment details, new wheels, and some other goodies. The >engine can be displayed with open engine covers. It'll need open covers. After I did much of the same stuff - engine mounts, interior framework, oil and fuel tanks and piping, spent cartridge chutes and assorted other detail on the last D.Va I built I discovered that *none* of it is visible at all. Reported it on list as another episode of modelling for God.... Good luck with this venture - it'll be interesting to see whether the WW1 modelling community will react to aftermarket like the ot community does. Shane _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:19:06 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SiteFeedback and question Message-ID: <20021118221906.C7E14345AE@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, I found some interesting pictures on that site, but had problems navigating. Does other users of IE experience the same? If Gerry wants to copy pictures from wwi-models.org for his own site, I belive he will need to get permission for the photographers who have sent in the images, copyright stays with the ones who made the images. Eders Knut Erik >I got this mail today, anyone seen this site before? There are some >pictures there that may be of interest, though the site is designed for >virtual modellers >regards >Steve >=========================================== >> From: "Gerry Mos" >> To: >> Subject: SiteFeedback and question >> >> I note that you have extensive images of various WW1 aircraft especially >> cockpits. >> >> Would you allow me to copy these and host them with other data on WW1 >> aircraft ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:24:28 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg Message-ID: Howdy! Gregg, what an impressive list of things to add to an already great model! I can't wait to have a couple in my hands. This would be nice for the 1/48 Fokker D.VII too. Shane says: "Good luck with this venture - it'll be interesting to see whether the WW1 modelling community will react to aftermarket like the ot community does." I second the motion! It'd be great to have a whole series of these. The 1/48 Roland C.I would be fun to super-detail too. Later! Brent >From: "Shane Weier" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg >Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:53:39 -0500 (EST) > >Gregg says: > > >Here is what I have going on 1/48 Albatros stuff.... > >Mark's drawings are essential! As is the Mikesh NASM book. > >I have been in contact with an RC modeler from Oz with access to the D.V > >down there. > >Mmmm, when you asked me about the control columns you should have asked >about this as well. IIRC my walkaround photos of D.5390 include behind the >seat. What I *don't* recall is a screen in there, because I distinctly >recall discussing the markings on the ply interior and extent of varnishing >with the curator at the time. > > >He has sent me a description, but no picture, of the aft cockpit >"closeout" > >made from fabric that snapped in place > >all around the perimiter of the aft bulkhead, effectively sealing off the > >rear fuselage. > >I have pictures of a similar screen on Pfalz D.XII D.2600 though.... > > >(snip impressive list) > > >New control column, misc. other cockpit details, New ammo cans and ammo > >chutes, NEW MOTOR, new detailed motor mount "shelf" including structural > >ribs built-in, new engine covers with "beading" around the engine >openings, > >other motor compartment details, new wheels, and some other goodies. The > >engine can be displayed with open engine covers. > >It'll need open covers. After I did much of the same stuff - engine mounts, >interior framework, oil and fuel tanks and piping, spent cartridge chutes >and assorted other detail on the last D.Va I built I discovered that *none* >of it is visible at all. Reported it on list as another episode of >modelling >for God.... > >Good luck with this venture - it'll be interesting to see whether the WW1 >modelling community will react to aftermarket like the ot community does. > >Shane > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:25:24 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: <010c01c28f51$63e85a50$9a4e2dcb@future> Re-reading Gregg's build on his Neiuport 17, I see that he used masking tape to cover the seam in the floor of the kit behind the seat. How simple is that. I would of used plastic card and then had to paint it.. .... Bangs head on model making desk.. Says to self.. use your brain.. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:42:22 +0000 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: BAT FK23 Bantam Message-ID: <1037659342.3dd96cce2abec@netmail.pipex.net> Couple of weeks ago we were discussing this aircraft, and someone mentioned the rebuild in Holland. While looking for something else ot, I found the reference in Aeroplane Monthly Sept 2002. The aircraft (K-123 - presumably it's British Civil Reg) has been rebuilt for eventual display in the new Aviodome at Lelystad in 2003 by the Koolhoven Aeroplanes Foundation. The aircraft was obtained from the Shuttleworth Collection in 1991, as it had no hope of restoring it to flying status (They have made drawings from the rebuild with a view to building a flyable replica). This one was built in 1918, and was used in 1919 for racing by no less than Charles Nungesser. BTW, I remembered their website, http://www.koolhoven.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:44:56 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: @ Gregg Message-ID: Brent says (in comment on my post) >Shane says: > >"Good luck with this venture - it'll be interesting to see whether the WW1 >modelling community will react to aftermarket like the ot community does." > >I second the motion! It'd be great to have a whole series of these. The >1/48 >Roland C.I would be fun to super-detail too. I'm *interested* in whether there's a worthwhile market, but *purely_personally* I couldn't care less about aftermarket since I rarely use anything other than Spandau jackets. Not, incidentally, because I'm an old fogey agin all that newfangled folderol, but because using aftermarket details takes away a major part of modelling *I* like, and has someone else do it. Seems a bit like being a gourmet and getting someone else to eat everything but the dinner roll...... OTOH I hope Gregg sell a million of them because that'll mean Eduard and others will sell a million kits, mostly to people who never before made a WW1 aircraft model. Shane _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:46:04 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: Ross, >Re-reading Gregg's build on his Neiuport 17, I see that he used masking >tape >to cover the seam in the floor of the kit behind the seat. How simple is >that. I would of used plastic card and then had to paint it.. .... Bangs >head on model making desk.. Says to self.. use your brain.. I wonder how he represented the cross members on the tape.... Shane _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:55:50 +0000 From: Dave F To: Subject: Re: Squadron, Roden etc Message-ID: <1037660150.3dd96ff62eb54@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Michael Kendix : > > I only said that my math and science major students performed best in > economics; I've a Science degree, but could never get to grips with economics in my post- grad. Just managed to pass that paper though. > Shane: > > The idea of painting a SPAD VII in anything but RFC colurs is anathma to > > me:). Same goes for a Nieuport 17c, which needs to be done in Albert > Ball's scheme - olive brown over CDL with a red cone de pen閠ration.!! In spite of your years in America, there's still hope for you!!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:19:15 -0800 From: "Gregg Cooper" To: Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: Well....I didn't! BUT, I could have painted the cross menbers quite easily, or cut thin strips of brown painted tape, and glued them down. I used tape because IPMS out-of-the-box rules say no scratchbuilding is allowed, but tape and decals can be used for finish and seatbelts. I pushed those rules a bit, but stayed within the spirit of the rules. Have fun, Gregg -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Ross, >Re-reading Gregg's build on his Neiuport 17, I see that he used masking >tape >to cover the seam in the floor of the kit behind the seat. How simple is >that. I would of used plastic card and then had to paint it.. .... Bangs >head on model making desk.. Says to self.. use your brain.. I wonder how he represented the cross members on the tape.... Shane _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:28:59 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: Gregg says: >Well....I didn't! Yep, I understood that, and why, because although I'm not an IPMS member and probably never will be, I do get involved in non-IPMS contests which have similar restricions. OTOH I *was* having a gentle tease of Ross - because while quick and easy, the tape methods principal advantage is approximate adherence to IPMS rules, and the thin card he was rejecting also has advantages that tape doesn't. Shane _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:30:28 -0800 From: "Bob Laskodi" To: Subject: Re: and thinned with Naptha Message-ID: <000d01c28f5a$7b3e3c20$4d3819d0@a8f1a1> The advantage with naphtha as a thinner for washes is it is extremely volatile (i.e. evaporates quickly), so any thing mixed with it will dry very quickly. It also flows very nicely due to its very low viscosity. The big disadvantage is it is extremely volatile making it very flammable, after all it is cigarette lighter fluid! Use at your own risk. Personally, I don't see much advantage over plain, old mineral spirits (paint thinner) for oil based washes. YMMV --------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:37:57 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Any Info on the Fokker K.I? Message-ID: Howdy! I stumbled across a Classic Planes vac of a Fokker K.I on Ebay. I have never heard of this aircraft before. Does anyone have an article they could point me to? My best wish would be to acquire some to-scale plans. I bet this would be an easy kit bash project. By the way... Tons of good stuff on Ebay right now. Especially for you resin bittner scale modelers. I have run up against one of my thresholds too. There is a 1/48 Hansa-Brandenburg C.I from HR Resins. I can't remember if I have that one or not... Sheesh! Maybe the collection is out of control? Perish the thought! Later! Brent "I see you have purchased a new SUV behemoth." "Actually, it's the Behemoth XL." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:40:17 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Any Info on the Fokker K.I? Message-ID: <103766284401@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> I think I sold you that one Bob > > I have run up against one of my thresholds too. There is a 1/48 > Hansa-Brandenburg C.I from HR Resins. I can't remember if I have that one or > not... Sheesh! Maybe the collection is out of control? Perish the thought! > > Later! > > Brent > > "I see you have purchased a new SUV behemoth." > "Actually, it's the Behemoth XL." > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:39:19 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: SiteFeedback and question Message-ID: he was actually asking to host pictures from my personal site, there was a lot of his mail that I didn't include regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:19:44 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] SiteFeedback and question > > Hei, > > I found some interesting pictures on that site, but had problems navigating. > Does other users of IE experience the same? > > If Gerry wants to copy pictures from wwi-models.org for his own site, > I belive he will need to get permission for the photographers who > have sent in the images, copyright stays with the ones who made the images. > > > Eders > Knut Erik > >> I got this mail today, anyone seen this site before? There are some >> pictures there that may be of interest, though the site is designed for >> virtual modellers >> regards >> Steve >> =========================================== >>> From: "Gerry Mos" >>> To: >>> Subject: SiteFeedback and question >>> >>> I note that you have extensive images of various WW1 aircraft especially >>> cockpits. >>> >>> Would you allow me to copy these and host them with other data on WW1 >>> aircraft ? > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:42:22 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. Message-ID: <7e.31405575.2b0ad4de@aol.com> --part1_7e.31405575.2b0ad4de_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VEEERY nice! I especially appreciate the fabric work on wing margins and along the longerons! Tom --part1_7e.31405575.2b0ad4de_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VEEERY nice!  I especially appreciate the fabric work on wing margins and along the longerons!

Tom --part1_7e.31405575.2b0ad4de_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:45:12 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: <019901c28f5c$89a4d740$9a4e2dcb@future> Shane what are comp rules ? I build for myself. I haven't had a chance to attend a APMA meeting since I was made one of the directors of the company I work for. I work weekends too. But having said that this is going to change .. So StY and mistress L might see me back at the meetings. .. Yeah... And the last time I attended a meeting my youngest daughter entered the comp as her model building completion rate is 100% up on mine. ;-) Cheers Ross.. Wonder if I can nearly ruin a build with masking tape insides .. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:30 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. > Gregg says: > > >Well....I didn't! > > Yep, I understood that, and why, because although I'm not an IPMS member and > probably never will be, I do get involved in non-IPMS contests which have > similar restricions. > > OTOH I *was* having a gentle tease of Ross - because while quick and easy, > the tape methods principal advantage is approximate adherence to IPMS rules, > and the thin card he was rejecting also has advantages that tape doesn't. > > Shane > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:59:55 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: Ross >Shane what are comp rules ? I build for myself. LOL - then using tape has no benefit to you at all unless your tape is the same colour as the fuselage interior and saves a coat of paint.... >But having said that this is going to change Suuuurre The little green men bring joy to the world too ;-) >Ross.. Wonder if I can nearly ruin a build with masking tape >insides .. >;-) I used masking tape to replicate the wrinklig of fabric on a scratchbuilt DH-5 and a heavily modified DH-2 some years ago. All the work was painted and thoroughly sealed but neither model lasted more than 2 years before the tape started to peel off. Masking tape seatbelts (Tamiya tape FWIW) have unobligingly done the same. It might be the weather but it's not a technique I use myself any more - because I can ruin a model with it only too well Shane _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:03:46 -0800 From: "Gregg Cooper" To: Subject: RE: FW: RE: @ Gregg Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Gregg Cooper Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] FW: RE: @ Gregg -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Cooper [mailto:corsair13@compuall.net] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:32 PM To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: [WWI] RE: @ Gregg Here is what I have going on 1/48 Albatros stuff.... Mark's drawings are essential! As is the Mikesh NASM book. I have been in contact with an RC modeler from Oz with access to the D.V down there. He has sent me a description, but no picture, of the aft cockpit "closeout" made from fabric that snapped in place all around the perimiter of the aft bulkhead, effectively sealing off the rear fuselage. THAT is how my set will portray the aft bulkhead, with a canvas closeout, subtly wrinkled, and snapped in place. A new seat, copied from pics on this site, with diamond tuck pad, and "stuffed" back. If I include belts, they will NOT hand over and attach to the backside of the seat. Instead the shoulder belts and attach anchors will "hang in space" off of the seat where they will attach to the afformentioned aft bulkhead. New control column, misc. other cockpit details, New ammo cans and ammo chutes, NEW MOTOR, new detailed motor mount "shelf" including structural ribs built-in, new engine covers with "beading" around the engine openings, other motor compartment details, new wheels, and some other goodies. The engine can be displayed with open engine covers. Whew! Gregg :) - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:41:43 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Jasta 7 Albatros Help Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:26:58 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > Aces book. .. ACES BOOK !!!!!!!!. .... geez check the $%^&* CD two > diagonal stripes on the fuselage. CD? What CD? I don't recall any CD... Oh, THAT CD. > This was also illustrated on the cover of an issue of CCI a few years back That too. > Aces book indeed hmmmph You're just angry, that's all. Don't worry Bob, it will be alright... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:44:15 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Squadron, Roden etc Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:56:26 -0500 (EST), Dave F wrote: > In spite of your years in America, there's still hope for you!!! I've met Michael and trust me, there isn't. ;-) PC-10 indeed. Bah! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:52:48 -0800 From: "Gregg Cooper" To: Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: I wonder how he represented the cross members on the tape.... Hi Shane, Well....I didn't! BUT, I could have painted the cross menbers quite easily, or cut thin strips of brown painted tape, and glued them down. I used tape because IPMS out-of-the-box rules say no scratchbuilding is allowed, but tape and decals can be used for finish and seatbelts. I pushed those rules a bit, but stayed within the spirit of the rules. Have fun, Gregg _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:07:01 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gregg's Neiu.. Its the simple things .. Message-ID: Hi all (for the second time, Gregg says:) >I wonder how he represented the cross members on the tape.... > >Hi Shane, > >Well....I didn't! >BUT, I could have painted the cross menbers quite easily, or cut thin >strips (etc) Is anyone else getting multiple copies of Gregg's posts, or is it just me? Stupid Hotmail probably Shane _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:47:28 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. Message-ID: <00de01c28f6d$9e0c2b00$63244918@tampabay.rr.com> Yes, it certianly did. Just got home from a 12 hr shift and I haven't had time to read the full article, but there is something I'm busting to know. Greg, how do you achieve such a clean build? Obviously it isn't a single technique and probably has more to do with discipline than anything else. I'd love to hear anything you have to say on the subject. 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He just started, so it's quite "interesting". Anyway, tonight he had to trim some of the broken "hairs" off his bow. They seem really nice for rigging material. Very thin, and stiff - maybe horse hair? Ant the color is light gray. Has anyone tried this before? john ernst ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4789 **********************