WWI Digest 4786 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) re: New Ludemann kits? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 2) From the UK Nats by "Shane Weier" 3) Re: New Ludemann kits? by Volker Haeusler 4) A/G by "Christopher Anderson" 5) Re: Cast report by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 6) Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. by "Mike Muth" 7) Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 9) by "David" 10) Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. by "Dave Burke" 11) Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. by Eric GALLAUD 12) Berlin Bound by "Fraser" 13) Sculpey by "Fraser" 14) Re: Cast report by "Pedro N. Soares" 15) Colour help by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) Re: Berlin Bound by Volker Haeusler 17) Back to Europe... by Volker Haeusler 18) RE: Colour help by "Pedro N. Soares" 19) RE: Colour help by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 20) New images online by "Matt Bittner" 21) Czech help by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: New images online by "Diego Fernetti" 23) RE: New images online by "Pedro N. Soares" 24) Re: Swami Shane by Ray 25) Kits for sale by Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz 26) Re: Nieuport N.24 by "John J Ernst" 27) OT in Model Aircraft Monthly 1-11 (November 2002) by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 28) This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 29) Re: This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. by "Michael Kendix" 30) Nieuport interior metal by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:21:54 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: New Ludemann kits? Message-ID: <004f01c28e87$bc8299c0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! Frieds and Junkers F are available, AEG not yet in Poland. Maybe Detlef has it, but I don't belive... Friedrichshafen kit from Luedemann I haven't seen, but I've seen Choroszy, which is excellent. You can see Choroszy Fried bulit by Eric Gallaud on the List Website Gallery. http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Gallaud/German/Fried-GIIIa-4.jpg G. > Hei, > > I visited the M-RR homepage and they are listing a number of new kits > from Ludemann, some of them with decals. > Among the ones I find of interest are Farman Longhorn/Shorthorn > and Junkers F-13, Friedrichshafen G.III bombers and AEG G.IV. > > Does somebody know if all these kits are in production > so I can order them now for delivery before the end of 2003? > > > Eders > Knut Erik > > > > > > > > > >Hi List! > >Look it's all right with "my source" of Luedemanns. I've ordered some > >yesterday problemlessly, got some info about probable news (Ansaldo A300, > >Farman F 30/35 variants, Lohner L and HB CC and W.18, also probably Polish > >conversion for the Roden Brisfit), and even was congratulated for IM reviews > >and kindly asked for more. > > > >So it all looks good. > >Cheers! > >G. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:23:56 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: From the UK Nats Message-ID: A coople of pics from Hyperscale..... http://gallery02.kitparade.com/images/ipmsuknats/Be2c%2048.jpg http://gallery02.kitparade.com/images/ipmsuknats/Spad%20XIII%2032.jpg Anyone know whose they are? Shane _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 06:41:27 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Ludemann kits? Message-ID: <001101c28dc1$4dffa7c0$0301a8c0@com1> Knut Erik, > Hei, > > I visited the M-RR homepage and they are listing a number of new kits > from Ludemann, some of them with decals. > Among the ones I find of interest are Farman Longhorn/Shorthorn > and Junkers F-13, Friedrichshafen G.III bombers and AEG G.IV. > > Does somebody know if all these kits are in production > so I can order them now for delivery before the end of 2003? another interesting kit listed as available is the Knoller C II (one of my top 3 favorite aircraft)... I can tell you in detail in 2 weeks time, as I will be leaving for another extended business trip back to Europe this evening, and should find a chnce to visit the Modellbaustudio this week (and even better, I should also be able to pay the Aviatin Book Shop a visit, as the trip also gets me to the UK). Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:11:57 -0500 From: "Christopher Anderson" To: Subject: A/G Message-ID: <005601c28e97$1f98aae0$9b22453f@canderson> Hi Folks, Is the latest Americal catalog posted online? Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:45:28 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Cast report Message-ID: <002c01c28e3f$97a741c0$713e5b0c@c3pro> Hi Pedro, I saw your post about RTV rubber. It is possible to goof RTV up, but it is pretty forgiving stuff. Some tips: a.) Make sure the catalyst is well shaken. RTV is catalyzed by metal salts I believe. The active ingredient in the catalyst can settle out over time so that when you go to use it and it has not be shaken up, you will get slow to no cure. Really you need to beat the stuff up before adding it to the rubber.Mix the catayst in thoroughly. b.) Most of the instructions that I have seen do not really tell you what basis to use when you calculate the catalyst addition; weight or volume. I think most of them mean for you to add by volume. I have tried both. You should be able to get a cure either way. c.) Humidity helps. Casting in the winter around here is a bear because the house is so dry. I put the molds into the bathroom. Don't give up. I once had a mold that took a week to cure. I don't know what happened (I probably undercharged the catalyst). Regards, Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Cast report > As you all might gather from my mood things aren't looking bright. The > rubber still hasn't cured and it's almost 20 hours past. I will give it > another day and if it won't harden I'll start anew. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:57:14 -0500 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. Message-ID: <000601c28ea5$d1b45680$e1d6bacc@ptdprolog.net> Mike K wrote > When i glue my fusealge halves, I am still using either > clothespegs(clothespins to Americans) or holding it together in my hand > until it's set. What.....No rubber bands? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:24:45 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. Message-ID: Mike: I don't like the clamps or whatever to touch the join that's being glued. If the liquid cement gets on the rubber band, won't the rubber band melt onto the plastic? Michael >From: "Mike Muth" >Mike K wrote > > When i glue my fusealge halves, I am still using either > > clothespegs(clothespins to Americans) or holding it together in my hand > > until it's set. > What.....No rubber bands? >Mike Muth _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:27:01 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. Message-ID: <01b201c28ea9$f9f55fa0$9a4e2dcb@future> Rubber bands will either melt or break apart.. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. > Mike: > > I don't like the clamps or whatever to touch the join that's being glued. > If the liquid cement gets on the rubber band, won't the rubber band melt > onto the plastic? > > Michael > > >From: "Mike Muth" > >Mike K wrote > > > When i glue my fusealge halves, I am still using either > > > clothespegs(clothespins to Americans) or holding it together in my hand > > > until it's set. > > What.....No rubber bands? > >Mike Muth > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:37:21 -0600 From: "David" To: Message-ID: <000801c28ebc$2f3ae560$95406b18@Jeanne> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28E89.E4673CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe wwi David_Layton ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28E89.E4673CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28E89.E4673CF0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 00:16:44 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. Message-ID: <004401c28eca$12074700$fa86aec7@s0024008072> Anybody mention Berna clamps yet? DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:17:46 +0100 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Clamps man - /was DrI build is alive again. Message-ID: <3DD8860A.6060100@club-internet.fr> I did, and if you want, I can send a scan of an advert, off list Eric Dave Burke a écrit: >Anybody mention Berna clamps yet? > > DB > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:39:41 +0100 From: "Fraser" To: Subject: Berlin Bound Message-ID: <000f01c28ee3$0b248ba0$fe78a8c0@pc145681> Meant to post this a couple of days ago... I'm going to Berlin on Wednesday and staying till the weekend. The obvious question arises: Can any of our German listees, or anyone else who might know Berlin tell me what I *must see* whilst there. I ask because guide books don't always cater well to the esoteric needs of aero-addicts... So, Best MUseum(s) Model shops????? My better half is attending an educational conference so I'm loose without a collar (as it were). I will, of course take my camera. Are the museums there cool about photography? TIA Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:33:43 +0100 From: "Fraser" To: Subject: Sculpey Message-ID: <000e01c28ee3$0aca0f90$fe78a8c0@pc145681> Great, lots of info. Fimo I know. I shall have a look around the local art suppliers here in Prague and see what there is. Cheers F ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:41:44 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Cast report Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3024F457B@TUFAO> Hi Cyg. Well you open a window of hope with your message. Thanks. As a matter of fact I didn't shake the catalyst bottle before adding the cat to the rubber. So this may be the reason for things not working as they should. Today I also noticed that the rubber was much thicker than yesterday night, so I'll leave it be for a couple of days more, to see if it eventually cures. I had thought of combining both ingredients by the volume, but the guy at the store who sold me the stuff (that came with absolute no instructions)told me I should do it by wheight. Next time I'll try volume since it's so much easier. Can't complain about lack of humidity. It's been raining quite a lot around here and I've been working on the basement which in itself is pretty humid in winter. Thanks John, great help Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: John & Allison Cyganowski [mailto:janah@att.net] > Sent: segunda-feira, 18 de Novembro de 2002 1:45 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Cast report > > > Hi Pedro, > > I saw your post about RTV rubber. It is possible to goof RTV > up, but it is > pretty forgiving stuff. Some tips: > > a.) Make sure the catalyst is well shaken. RTV is catalyzed > by metal salts > I believe. The active ingredient in the catalyst can settle > out over time > so that when you go to use it and it has not be shaken up, > you will get slow > to no cure. Really you need to beat the stuff up before > adding it to the > rubber.Mix the catayst in thoroughly. > > b.) Most of the instructions that I have seen do not really > tell you what > basis to use when you calculate the catalyst addition; weight > or volume. I > think most of them mean for you to add by volume. I have > tried both. You > should be able to get a cure either way. > > c.) Humidity helps. Casting in the winter around here is a > bear because the > house is so dry. I put the molds into the bathroom. > > Don't give up. I once had a mold that took a week to cure. > I don't know > what happened (I probably undercharged the catalyst). > > Regards, > Cyg. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pedro Soares" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:48 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Cast report > > > > > As you all might gather from my mood things aren't looking > bright. The > > rubber still hasn't cured and it's almost 20 hours past. I > will give it > > another day and if it won't harden I'll start anew. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:58:29 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Colour help Message-ID: <00a501c28ee9$107e6c00$9a4e2dcb@future> http://www.militarygameronline.com/CloseCombatFuture/ross'smodels/swisshd1.j pg I asked my wife to tell what colour this plane is painted. She matched it to Humbrol Matt 31 Slate grey. Is this correct ? TIA.. Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:04:48 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Berlin Bound Message-ID: <000c01c28e20$ca4348a0$0301a8c0@com1> Fraser > Meant to post this a couple of days ago... > I'm going to Berlin on Wednesday and staying till the weekend. The obvious > question arises: Can any of our German listees, or anyone else who might > know Berlin tell me what I *must see* whilst there. I ask because guide > books don't always cater well to the esoteric needs of aero-addicts... So, > Best MUseum(s) Model shops????? > My better half is attending an educational conference so I'm loose without a > collar (as it were). > I will, of course take my camera. Are the museums there cool about > photography? Two museums worth mentioning (for OT stuff - there´s a LOT of interesting other mueseums in Berlin): Deutsches Technik Museum (at the Anhalter Bahnhof). The aviation area is run by Holger Steinle, one of my heroes. A guy who does know no limits to get together old aircraft, especially those connected to the former Deutsche Luftfahrtsammlung. Special aircraft include the only surviving Jeannin Taube and one of the Paul Straehle Halberstadts (albeit in it´s final form from the 30ies). However, the planned WW I exhibition opens 04. Luftwaffenmuseum (Air Force Museum), which is good mainly in blowtorches, but still worth a try. Not sure about Hobby Shops - you most probably find better stuff in Prague or at Arturs in Slany... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:07:30 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Back to Europe... Message-ID: <000d01c28e21$24bfa6c0$0301a8c0@com1> OK, I´m about to leave for a trip to Europe, so I´ll not really be available for the next two weeks. I try to stay subscribed, but last time my laptop failed to provide me with a working connection during the trip - so have all fun, build a Nieuport or two while I´m away (in 48 scale please) and see you in two weeks... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:38:04 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Colour help Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3024F4661@TUFAO> Ross, If SWMBO says it's 31 Slate Grey, who are we, and most of all you, to disagree?.... Show some respect, man..... Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: segunda-feira, 18 de Novembro de 2002 9:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Colour help > > > http://www.militarygameronline.com/CloseCombatFuture/ross'smod > els/swisshd1.j > pg > > I asked my wife to tell what colour this plane is painted. > She matched it to > Humbrol Matt 31 Slate grey. Is this correct ? > > TIA.. > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:54:49 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Colour help Message-ID: <00dd01c28ef0$ea337010$9a4e2dcb@future> LOL.. Well I can't tell what colour it is. At times she has said one thing and I would show her a different jar of paint and she would then say that was it... I am so confused... Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Colour help > Ross, > > If SWMBO says it's 31 Slate Grey, who are we, and most of all you, to > disagree?.... Show some respect, man..... > > Pedro > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > > Sent: segunda-feira, 18 de Novembro de 2002 9:59 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Colour help > > > > > > http://www.militarygameronline.com/CloseCombatFuture/ross'smod > > els/swisshd1.j > > pg > > > > I asked my wife to tell what colour this plane is painted. > > She matched it to > > Humbrol Matt 31 Slate grey. Is this correct ? > > > > TIA.. > > > > Ross > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:15:01 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New images online Message-ID: Paul Thompson sent in two new Sopwith Pups, and Daniel Clamot sent in a Fokker E.V done up in Belgian markings. All three superb! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:16:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Czech help Message-ID: For our Czech listees. I'm looking for information about a company called PH Model. They have an off topic conversion I'm looking for, and can't find anything about the company. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:27:40 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: New images online Message-ID: <027901c28ef5$81898400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Paul Thompson sent in two new Sopwith Pups, and Daniel Clamot > sent in a Fokker E.V done up in Belgian markings. > All three superb! Indeed they are. Great work, Paul! I love these colorful pups. Daniel, the Fokker is a beauty as well. Are those markings handpainted on the model? Well done! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:26:22 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New images online Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3024F4768@TUFAO> > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: segunda-feira, 18 de Novembro de 2002 11:18 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] New images online > > > Paul Thompson sent in two new Sopwith Pups, Beautiful Pups, Paul. Seeing the chequered Pup has made me think about the fact that i have that same Blue rider sheet and an airfix Pup at home.... and Daniel Clamot > sent in a Fokker E.V done up in Belgian markings. Absoutely superb, Daniel Pedro > > All three superb! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:33:34 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Swami Shane Message-ID: <200211170033.34938.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Since the Swami isnt around how about yes now its getting clearer... Testing one of the decals to make sure it isnt going to self destruct. If it does then apply a gloss coat. Oh and if you insist on solutions dont forget them too. Lets seee hmmm its coming clearer now, put all bottles of glue away when you are using microset/mircrosolv. Decals and model disintegrate if you brush on glue...... Ray. (Sheesh I should get a 900 number at this rate) awy whOn Saturday 16 November 2002 23:41, you wrote: > Oh Swami Shane, Praise Be... > > Can you look into your pool of Future (I think that's what you mean buy > looking into the Future isn't it?) and tell me what disaster will befall me > if I decal the fuselage of my Pfalz with the Holtzem markings before I > finish the model? I think that could be easier to do. > > Last time I accidentally CA'd some rigging to a decal when I did something > similar on another model. > > Please help me Swami Shane...Praise Be... > > Oh yes... I only have ten bucks. > > Waiting Anxiously > > Neil E > > PS: What's going to win the last at Moonee Valley next Saturday? > > PPS: Sopwith, Bristol, AVRO, Austin-Ball.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:23:44 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Kits for sale Message-ID: Hi all, My friend have these kits for sale. Shipping is extra. Payment by cheque or credit card. Please contact me offlist. Eduard 1/48 Fokker E.III $30.00 Fokker E.V/D.VIII $30.00 Fokker D.VI $20.00 Hanover Cl.III $30.00 Morane Saulnier N $30.00 Sopwith Baby $30.00 Sopwith Pup $20.00 SSW D.III $30.00 Eduard 1/72 Fokker E.V/D.VIII 2pcs $15 .00 each Flashback 1/48 Morane Saulnier N $30.00 Sopwith "NAVY" Pup $30.00 Aurora (K&B) 1/48 Airco DH-10 $80.00 Fokker D.VIII $30.00 Nieuport 28 $30.00 Lubos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:54:27 -0500 From: "John J Ernst" To: "WWI Digest" Subject: Re: Nieuport N.24 Message-ID: In Vol. 2 of the Nieuport Fighters Datafile Special Edition, there is a profile on page 16, of a N.24 in pale gray or aluminum, with red stars in white circles. The caption indicates this was from "JAAF, Tokorosawa, Japan, 1917". I didn't realize that Japanese markings were red stars at some period in history, and my first reaction to the profile was that it may be Russian. Is it possible this profile is a mis-print? Thanks. john ernst ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:49:32 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: OT in Model Aircraft Monthly 1-11 (November 2002) Message-ID: <20021118124932.76F9034636@login-3.eunet.no> OT in Model Aircraft Monthly 1-11 (November 2002) Hei, This issue of MAM has plenty of OT contents from Australia: Airco D.H.9 and 9A in Australia and New Zealand by Jim Grant, eight pages with text and photos. Another Jim Grant article has nine photos of German aircraft in Palestine from a collection donated to the RAAFA Aviation Heritage Museum of Western Australia. Good quality pictures of Friedrichshafen FF.33I and AEG C.IV aircraft, but they are printed smaller than I like. Stephen T. Lawson builds Eduards Albatross C.III and a Polish C.VI. ot stuff include RAAF F-18 Hornets, RAF DH Hornets, Gannet and USN Wildcat. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:06:59 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. Message-ID: <014201c28f03$60df0e60$9a4e2dcb@future> http://features02.kitparade.com/nieuport11gc_1.htm Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:21:57 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: This will blow you away ... Neuiport 11 at hyperscle.. Message-ID: This bloke's stuff is really high quality. He did a multi-part feature on a "Gekko" that was also outstanding. Even though that was not WW1 or my preferred scale, there was a lot of instrucional tips that helped me. Michael >From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > >http://features02.kitparade.com/nieuport11gc_1.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:24:22 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Nieuport interior metal Message-ID: <012c01c28f05$ced577e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I've been pondering about a certain issue with nieuport interior detail colour... Given the fact that the rigging and sometimes the metal hardware of french airplanes were painted in light blue... would it be possible, if not plausible, that the steel members inside the fuselages were painted light blue instead of gray or black? In the b&W pictures it looks like gray, but it well could have been light blue Ideas? D. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4786 **********************