WWI Digest 4768 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "NEIL EDDY" 2) Re: A Strange Occurrence by "NEIL EDDY" 3) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "NEIL EDDY" 4) Re: A Strange Occurrence by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 5) Presents for the Mother-in-Law was Removing Paint Runs by "Brent Theobald" 6) Eduard have great customer service by Ray 7) Austro-Hungarian Serials by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 8) Re: Austro-Hungarian Serials by Tom Plesha 9) Re: Presents for the Mother-in-Law was Removing Paint Runs by "Michael Kendix" 10) RE: Austro-Hungarian Serials by "Pedro N. Soares" 11) Hobbies tax deductable? by Mark Miller 12) Re: Hobbies tax deductable? by "Brent Theobald" 13) Re: Hobbies tax deductable? by "Michael Kendix" 14) Strong Rigging. by Ray 15) Re: A Strange Occurrence by "Mark Shannon" 16) Re: Hobbies tax deductable? by Mark Miller 17) =?GB2312?B?us/NrLe2sb6hos7Eyum3trG+oaLTos7Et7axvg==?= by =?GB2312?B?sNnN8re2sb4=?= 18) Roden Update by Eric GALLAUD 19) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "Shane Weier" 20) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 21) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "Shane Weier" 22) Re: Removing Paint Runs by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 23) Another Bill Arnold Day by "Matt Bittner" 24) Not around by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: Another Bill Arnold Day by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 26) GREETINGS FROM MOROKA!!!! by "Alex Moroka" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:04:42 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: <007401c2899c$0c9833c0$e7c832d2@default> Thanks Lance; I was a bit dubious re the acetone anyway. I guess I can mask around where I have to sand to minimise the damage right enough. The challenge is going to be to match the colour after sanding. part of it will be hidden by the black stripes but it will need touching up I think. I underestimated how thick the paint I had mixed was (also the quantity). I had thinned it until it dripped like milk but I guess I underestimated the effects of the gloss white and black in the mix, which is thicker of course. I am trying out Hans' mix for Silbergrau - I'm finding it gives a very satisfying result colourwise (Thanks Hans!). For those interested, its 80% Tamiya Matt Aluminium, 20% Tamiya Gloss White, and a touch of Tamiya Gloss Black. I put two touches of the black in and the result is a bit darker than what I was aiming for but the result is still in an acceptable range IMHO. All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Paint Runs > Neil: > > "I was thinking either fine wet and dry and a gentle sand or > acetone...I want to avoid a major re-paint job..." > > Go with the sandpaper, definitely; the acetone will raise hell and > you'll have to sand the result anyway, with less chance of controlling > the damage. > > And remember: thin, multiple coats are a lot easier in the long run > than one thick one! But you knew that, I reckon... > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:09:16 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: A Strange Occurrence Message-ID: <009701c2899c$af99f040$e7c832d2@default> John and Dave; What you say makes perfect sense. Maskol does have an ammoniac smell about it which maybe I should have picked. I have some Micro Mask as well, so I'll use that in future (pardon the pun!). All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:59 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: A Strange Occurrence > > Neil writes>>To my surprise, the only Future left on the rudder and tail > was where the > masking tape previously was. Where I had used the Maskol, I guess the > Maskol > had taken the Future right off.<< > > Hi Neil, > This occurred because Humbrol Maskol is ammonia-based....Ammonia eats > Future for lunch!! This stuff just dissolved what Future you had underneath > it. This is one reason I have stopped using Maskol... MicroMask doesn't do > this..I don't know what the base for MicroMask is, but it is safe to use > over dried Future... > > Regards, > John > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:14:53 +1100 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: <00a801c2899d$787b1c00$e7c832d2@default> Steve and Brett; I have some very very fine grade nail files and buffers I can use for the job. I'll give it three or four days before I sand anything I think. Gives me time to send myself blind rigging the 1/72 Pup :-) Brent - You give your Mother-In -Law models for Christmas? All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:57 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Paint Runs > > > My question is about I remove these runs and the pool without creating > major > > damage to the rest of the paint job. > > Neil: > I use a foam backed polishing pad from an auto paint shop. I have them in > 2000 and 4000 grit. Wet sand gently and you will work down the thickness of > the run and you'll be able to re-spray it without a trace. Let it dry good > and hard first though. > hth > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:18:34 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: A Strange Occurrence Message-ID: <1037031514.3dcfd85a833e9@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting John_Impenna@hyperion.com: > This is one reason I have stopped using Maskol... MicroMask doesn't > do > this..I don't know what the base for MicroMask is, but it is safe to use > over dried Future... IIRC, it's water based, which gives trouble over water based acrylics but not future Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:48:12 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Presents for the Mother-in-Law was Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: Howdy! Neil asks: Brent - You give your Mother-In -Law models for Christmas? Yup, I guess I am starting a tradition. She requested a small (1/72), colorful biplane last year. I gave her the first Roden D.VII I built. She really seemed to enjoy it. So I figure I'll slap another model together for her. Since it's for her it needs to be colorful. Since Christmas isn't *that* far away and I am moving I need as many shortcuts as I can get. The answer is decals. Luckily Americal/Gryphon have supplied me with the candy stripes for a couple of Udet's planes. I feel Udet's D.VII with red striped wing would tickle her fancy. I'll use the extra red stripes Dr. Merrill thoughtfully supplied in the decal pack. I currently believe the red stripes are incorrect, so I don't mind the model not being included in my collection Because I am less than enthused about *another* D.VII I am entertaining the notion of Udet's striped Dr.I. The Eduard kit is an easier build, but I'm not real keen on the paint job. No lozenge on the wings though. Hmmmm... No I am NOT going to give her Dilthey's D.Va as my wife suggested. That model fought me every inch of the way. It's staying! Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:45:22 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Eduard have great customer service Message-ID: <200211110845.22540.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> On saturday I posted about my Eduard EIII EIV quandary. I had EIV parts in an EIII box with EIII decals and instructions. Last night I emailed Eduards customer service asking what would be the best thing to do. 2 Hours ago I got an email back saying they had just put a set of EIII parts in the mail. I figured I would be told to take the model back to where I bought it, or return the EIV parts to eduard. Both suggestions would have been fine with me. So now I have a set of EIV parts as a bonus. I call that great customer service. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:12:07 -0600 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Austro-Hungarian Serials Message-ID: <71EA257E03C4D511B8ED00065B04BF940136D282@ITCREX001> I'm approaching the decal stage on my Special Hobby Lloyd C.V and would like to depict one of the 82 series machines that were contract built for Lloyd by another aircraft manufacturer (whose name I can't remember right now--WFK?!?). Specifically, I'd like to do 82.08 that's illustrated in the FMP book. It has a nice dark fuselage color that indicates mahagony veneer may have been used in its construction. None of the many decal options offered by Special Hobby include 82.08 or any of the 82 series airframes. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone who makes generic Austro-Hungarian serials. Pegaus/Blue Max might, but I can't access his website. Roll Models does not list this option among the Pegasus line on their website. I have scrutinized the Americal/Gryphon catalog but can find no sheet dedicated only to serials, just to specific FLIKs. Does anyone on the list know of a decal sheet for 1/48 scale Austro-Hungarian serials? Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:19:37 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Austro-Hungarian Serials Message-ID: <20021111171937.45866.qmail@web40309.mail.yahoo.com> HTH- Blue Rider does a sheet of A-H numbers. Later Tom --- "Flake, Marc" wrote: > I'm approaching the decal stage on my Special Hobby > Lloyd C.V and would like > to depict one of the 82 series machines that were > contract built for Lloyd > by another aircraft manufacturer (whose name I can't > remember right > now--WFK?!?). > > Specifically, I'd like to do 82.08 that's > illustrated in the FMP book. It > has a nice dark fuselage color that indicates > mahagony veneer may have been > used in its construction. None of the many decal > options offered by Special > Hobby include 82.08 or any of the 82 series > airframes. Unfortunately there > doesn't seem to be anyone who makes generic > Austro-Hungarian serials. > Pegaus/Blue Max might, but I can't access his > website. Roll Models does not > list this option among the Pegasus line on their > website. I have > scrutinized the Americal/Gryphon catalog but can > find no sheet dedicated > only to serials, just to specific FLIKs. > > Does anyone on the list know of a decal sheet for > 1/48 scale > Austro-Hungarian serials? > > Marc Flake __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:21:52 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Presents for the Mother-in-Law was Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: >From: "Brent Theobald" > >Neil asks: > >Brent - You give your Mother-In -Law models for Christmas? > >Yup, I guess I am starting a tradition. She requested a small (1/72), >colorful biplane last year. I gave her the first Roden D.VII I built. >She >really seemed to enjoy it. So I figure I'll slap another model >together >for her. I think people like these things as gifts more than we might believe. I'm building something for my next door neighbour who was a WW2 naval pilot. Yes, off-topic - the Tamiya Corsair - sorry, but I think it's nice to match the subject to the person:). My wife's getting something with "Shark mouth" nose art:). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:33:38 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Austro-Hungarian Serials Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B302487477@TUFAO> Mark, Sometime ago, ex-listee Mike Franklin was offering a True Type font for AH serials. Maybe you can contact him. Since the numbers were black they can easily be printed on clear decal with a laser printer. HTH Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com [mailto:mflake@tarrantcounty.com] > Sent: segunda-feira, 11 de Novembro de 2002 17:17 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Austro-Hungarian Serials > > > I'm approaching the decal stage on my Special Hobby Lloyd C.V > and would like > to depict one of the 82 series machines that were contract > built for Lloyd > by another aircraft manufacturer (whose name I can't remember right > now--WFK?!?). > > Specifically, I'd like to do 82.08 that's illustrated in the > FMP book. It > has a nice dark fuselage color that indicates mahagony veneer > may have been > used in its construction. None of the many decal options > offered by Special > Hobby include 82.08 or any of the 82 series airframes. > Unfortunately there > doesn't seem to be anyone who makes generic Austro-Hungarian serials. > Pegaus/Blue Max might, but I can't access his website. Roll > Models does not > list this option among the Pegasus line on their website. I have > scrutinized the Americal/Gryphon catalog but can find no > sheet dedicated > only to serials, just to specific FLIKs. > > Does anyone on the list know of a decal sheet for 1/48 scale > Austro-Hungarian serials? > > Marc Flake > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hobbies tax deductable? Message-ID: <20021111181000.53617.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com> I was talking to a sales person at Wizards of the coast last week. (buying dragon ball Z cards for my 11 yr old). And he told me that hobbies are tax deductable ??!! I've been buying model kits for a long time and this is the first that i ever heard anything like this. anybody else heard about this? Mark __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:21:38 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbies tax deductable? Message-ID: Howdy! Sounds like he was trying to get you to purchase more because it was tax deductable. There are two times you can deduct your hobby. The first one I've done was when I was working out of state for weeks at a time. My kits and supplies were written off as entertainment expenses. Other people I know have racecars with their business name painted all over. This is an advertising expense. Both are bamboozles. You'd have a hard time using example no. 2 with modeling anyhow... I think you are out of luck! :-( It's a fun thought. Later! Brent "Hey Johnnie, what are you rebelling against anyway?" "Whattaya got?" _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:23:01 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbies tax deductable? Message-ID: >From: Mark Miller >I was talking to a sales person at Wizards of the >coast last week. (buying dragon ball Z cards for my 11 >yr old). And he told me that hobbies are tax >deductable ??!! Yes right, does he wish! I wish professional economists' services were tax deductible too then I could rent my services out, and the tax break would give my customers more incentive to hire me. To say your friend at the hobby shop has a conflict of interest in giving this advice, is a gross understatment. You have to be careful and I would consult a tax attourney - nobody I know who's experienced a tax audit,liked it very much. If you have a business that's your hobby, you might be able to deduct expenses. But like with regular businesses, you have to show a profit after a certain number of years. I've heard urban myths of cases won when there's a profit "objective", even when there are many years of losses but I wouldn't think it's that worthwhile. Besides, think of the most you'd be gaining. If you're in the 25% tax bracket and you spend $800/year on your hobby "Business", you pocket $200 or $4/week. I believe too that there is no statute of limitations on tax evasion.:) Is that correct Mr. Muth? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:04:17 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Strong Rigging. Message-ID: <200211111004.17806.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> I have just been amazed (yes I know it doesnt take much). I decided to re-finish a Sierra Scale DFW that had been languishing on my bench since last year. At the point I lost interest it just needed landing gear on. Basically the reason I lost interest was that I wrecked the Ceramcoat paint on top of the upper and lower wings, such that it came away in patches. This was after it had been rigged and decaled. (Dont ask how! Only I could do what I did, something about rubbing alchohol and tipped bottles and a cat). Anyway I decided that I can re-finish this model before the end of the year, just take the upper wing off, sand the wings then re-paint and decal. Well I got all the struts disconnected and figured I could pull the wing away. Nope the invisible thread rigging would not budge. I thought it would pull out of its holes. Not one bit of rigging pulled. I had to snip every peice. Not only would the rigging not pull, it was holding all the struts tight and bent the wings when I tried to pull on the upper wing. What I dont understand is why when I dont want to dislodge rigging I can do it easily ;) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:29:46 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: A Strange Occurrence Message-ID: <002401c289b0$4fe12600$2272fea9@theshann> I'm not familiar with Maskol, but I wonder if it contains either ammonia or isopropyl alcohol - either of those will take Future right off. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: [WWI] A Strange Occurrence > G'day Listees; > > I noticed something strange tonight when I removed the liquid mask off the > tail section of my Pfalz, which I had painted Matt Black (Tamiya) a couple > of days ago. > > The day before masking and the day after it had been sprayed, I covered the > tailplane and rudder with Future in order to protect the finish. etc etc. > > I gave this a day to harden prior to masking and spraying the main colour. > > I then covered the tail and rudder with Humbrol Maskol except where the > black meets the main colour, which I masked with masking tape to get a > straight edge. > > After giving the main colour (runs 'n all) time to dry completely, I removed > the masking tape and the Maskol tonight. > > To my surprise, the only Future left on the rudder and tail was where the > masking tape previously was. Where I had used the Maskol, I guess the Maskol > had taken the Future right off. > > I don't understand how this could have happened. I thought Future was meant > to be a very tough finish. > > Has anyone else had this occur to them or would like to venture why this > occurred? I would be interested to know why this happened.... > > All the Best > > Neil E > (out of Lurk for a bit) > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:54:32 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbies tax deductable? Message-ID: <20021111185432.60257.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Yes - i was very skeptical about this whole thing. but, the sales guy was just a clerk and I don't think he stood to profit by making a sale - they don't work on commision. (i think) besides, i wasn't buying "kits" i was buying cards which , according to this guy, counts as a "game" and as such is not tax deductable. 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Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:00:15 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: Brent says: >(Contemplating banging out either an Eduard Dr.I or Roden D.VII for my >mother in law's Christmas present. Now *that's* a good idea.... Shane _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:15:29 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: <007501c289cf$d807ca60$9a4e2dcb@future> Roden's Alb early Fokker D.VII has some. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Paint Runs > Brent says: > > > >(Contemplating banging out either an Eduard Dr.I or Roden D.VII for my > >mother in law's Christmas present. > > Now *that's* a good idea.... > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:41:22 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: Ross, > >Roden's Alb early Fokker D.VII has some. ;-) > Yeah, and there's an Eagle Strike (I think!) sheet in 1/48. AND a former listee printed me a set. So I *have* three of them, but the joke (poor as it was) was more pithy without mentioning that. Shane _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:44:47 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Removing Paint Runs Message-ID: <009501c289d3$efb1b1e0$9a4e2dcb@future> I didn't think it was joke. ;-( Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Paint Runs > Ross, > > > > >Roden's Alb early Fokker D.VII has some. ;-) > > > > > Yeah, and there's an Eagle Strike (I think!) sheet in 1/48. AND a former > listee printed me a set. So I *have* three of them, but the joke (poor as it > was) was more pithy without mentioning that. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:42:57 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Another Bill Arnold Day Message-ID: Just uploaded two more awesome models from Bill Arnold - a Junkers J.2 and the Dufaux. Cool! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:48:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Not around Message-ID: Just to let everyone know, I'll be unsubbing tomorrow morning. I have another trip to Washington D.C., and I leave tomorrow and won't be back until Friday-late. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:53:37 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Another Bill Arnold Day Message-ID: <009f01c289d5$2bde6630$9a4e2dcb@future> Is there no stopping this guy. They are both great builds Bill. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: [WWI] Another Bill Arnold Day > Just uploaded two more awesome models from Bill Arnold - a > Junkers J.2 and the Dufaux. Cool! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:51:47 +0100 From: "Alex Moroka" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: GREETINGS FROM MOROKA!!!! 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