WWI Digest 4738
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: SPAD-Taube?
by KarrArt@aol.com
2) Merlin Kits
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
3) Re: Merlin Kits
by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
4) Re: Merlin Kits
by "Bob Pearson"
5) Re: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft
by Steve Cox
6) Re: Occamism/Padding
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
7) mKvEIExb4j7Vu8JD =?big5?Q?=A5v=A4W=B3=CC=BC=C9=C5S=AA=BA=BEP=B0=E2=A4k=AD=A6=C2b=B7}=A6=E8=ACI?=
by qoo0776@hotmail.com
8) My Albatros
by "Hans Trauner"
9) Re: Merlin Kits
by Steven Perry
10) =?big5?Q?2002=A6~=B3=CC=B7s=A6=E6=BEP=A5=FA=BA=D0 =A1]=B2=D7=B7=A5=AA=A9=A1^?=
by Email2002
11) The Commander was Merlin Kits
by "Harris, Mack"
12) Re: Merlin Kits
by HawkerFury@t-online.de (HawkerFury)
13) Re: Merlin Kits
by Steven Perry
14) Re: The Commander was Merlin Kits
by Steven Perry
15) having a BM on Aeroclub
by Ken Schmitt
16) Getting back into it
by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
17) Re: Getting back into it
by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
18) RE: Getting back into it
by "Harris, Mack"
19) Modeler on Judge show
by Steven Perry
20) RE: Getting back into it
by "Michael Kendix"
21) Re: Modeler on Judge show
by "Michael Kendix"
22) RE: Getting back into it
by "Harris, Mack"
23) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
by "Shane Weier"
24) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
by "Shane Weier"
25) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
by "Matt Bittner"
26) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
by KarrArt@aol.com
27) Re: Overseas Postage
by Witold Kozakiewicz
28) RE: Getting back into it
by "Shane Weier"
29) Re: Getting back into it
by "Shane Weier"
30) Re: Getting back into it
by "Lance Krieg"
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:03:47 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: SPAD-Taube?
Message-ID: <112.19a93fba.2af02783@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/29/02 12:02:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Grzegorz_Mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl writes:
<< http://204.83.160.230/archive/images8/RFGtaube.jpg
Looks like SPAD fuselage with Taube wings.
Diago and Neil can build ot together.
G. >>
racing through the deVries book, it appears to be a Kondor Taube.Maybe.
RK
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:39 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Merlin Kits
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Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin kits
were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are there
any really good ones that stand out?
Best Regards,
Jon
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Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin kits were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are there any really good ones that stand out?
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:19:14 -0600 (CST)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <200210291819.g9TIJEB34269@king1.kingsnake.com>
> Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin
kits
> were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are
there
> any really good ones that stand out?
Two really nice ones are the Breguet 14 and the Hansa-Bradenburg W.20.
Matt
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:38:07 -0800
From: "Bob Pearson"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <103591670701@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com>
The DH5 is really nice. I also built their Ni11 and Canuck (Canadian Jenny)
.. these two had a strange flaking type of plastic to them. I owned the Br14
for about an hour or two before I sold it to go out for dinner at the 1996
OTF seminar in DC.
Bob
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>From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [WWI] Re: Merlin Kits
>Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:31 am
>
>
>> Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin
> kits
>> were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are
> there
>> any really good ones that stand out?
>
> Two really nice ones are the Breguet 14 and the Hansa-Bradenburg W.20.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:46:07 +0000
From: Steve Cox
To:
Subject: Re: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft
Message-ID:
You'd better get all your other models made before the 9th November Diego,
--- because after then you won't be able to do any more modelling until your
retirement :-)
best of luck
Steve
===========================================
steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html
http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk
If I didn't spend so much time on line
‹‹ I'd get some models finished
================
> From: "Diego Fernetti"
> Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:07:58 -0500 (EST)
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Re: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft
>
> I planned a house where there are an area above the living room wich will be
> empty until the roof of the second story. I always envisioned a couple of
> large scale models (1/6 or 1/8) hanging in that space: a LVG C.VI and an
> allied scout, but still can't decide wich.
> Mmmm.... maybe a project for my retirement.
> D.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:48:04 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Occamism/Padding
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In a message dated 10/26/2002 5:50:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ot811@msbx.net writes:
> I am looking for tips or ideas to tackle this problem.
> I am trying to make cockpit rim padding from electric wire sheathing
Hi Sanjeev. I used a short piece of dowel to make a jig to run the wire
through. First I drill a hole just big enough for the wire to pass through
lengthwise and I push a #11 blade into the center ( you can notch out some
material so as not to have to much material to go through) half way down into
the center of the hole and lock it in with some super glue. I clamp this in a
vise to hold it. Now the insulation is cut as it's being pulled through the
hole in the dowel. Just try to keep it in some tension as you run it through.
I hope this helps
Best Regards,
Jon
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In a message dated 10/26/2002 5:50:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, ot811@msbx.net writes:
I am looking for tips or ideas to tackle this problem.
I am trying to make cockpit rim padding from electric wire sheathing
Hi Sanjeev. I used a short piece of dowel to make a jig to run the wire through. First I drill a hole just big enough for the wire to pass through lengthwise and I push a #11 blade into the center ( you can notch out some material so as not to have to much material to go through) half way down into the center of the hole and lock it in with some super glue. I clamp this in a vise to hold it. Now the insulation is cut as it's being pulled through the hole in the dowel. Just try to keep it in some tension as you run it through. I hope this helps
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:13:36 +0100
From: "Hans Trauner"
To:
Subject: My Albatros
Message-ID: <001f01c27f7f$47f7ee00$d9ac72d4@FRITZweb>
Thanks to all for the kind words. For those who liked the 'subtle' effects:
I am a figure painter, too, and trained 'subtle' effects there. It's always
good to take a look into the neighbours garden.
But I have to tell here that Bob Laskodi trained me! I stared my eyes out of
my head when I saw his first models in Internet modellers or elsewhere. I
was a modeller for 25 years already then, but he gave me real new impulses.
Even the blue background of the pics is a reminiscence of him. Thanks, Bob!
It seems your training was o.k.!
Hans from Funland.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:21:43 -0500
From: Steven Perry
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <3DBEDFC7.1090704@tampabay.rr.com>
The Rumpler CIII/IV is also nice. The F.5b Gunbus isn't too bad either.
sp
AEG G.IV is a mess.
The Commander
Bob Pearson wrote:
> The DH5 is really nice. I also built their Ni11 and Canuck (Canadian Jenny)
> . these two had a strange flaking type of plastic to them. I owned the Br14
> for about an hour or two before I sold it to go out for dinner at the 1996
> OTF seminar in DC.
>
> Bob
>
> ----------
>
>>From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
>>To: Multiple recipients of list
>>Subject: [WWI] Re: Merlin Kits
>>Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:31 am
>>
>>
>
>>>Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin
>>>
>>kits
>>
>>>were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are
>>>
>>there
>>
>>>any really good ones that stand out?
>>>
>>Two really nice ones are the Breguet 14 and the Hansa-Bradenburg W.20.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>
>>
>
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:20:06 -0600
From: "Harris, Mack"
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: The Commander was Merlin Kits
Message-ID:
sp teh commander laments
(snip)
AEG G.IV is a mess.
The Commander
Any news from the front, commander? Are the troops rallying?
Mack
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:25:36 +0100
From: HawkerFury@t-online.de (HawkerFury)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <186bzc-0B5SGeC@fwd08.sul.t-online.com>
Matt Bittner schrieb:
>
> > Hi Gang, I was just wondering if there is a consensus as to which Merlin
> kits
> > were worth building and those that are just a form of torture. And are
> there
> > any really good ones that stand out?
>
> Two really nice ones are the Breguet 14 and the Hansa-Bradenburg W.20.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
Which are copies of czech resins, just like the DH-5.
Chris
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:50:27 -0500
From: Steven Perry
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <3DBEE683.8040801@tampabay.rr.com>
> Which are copies of czech resins, just like the DH-5.
> Chris
I am curently doing a triple build of Br.14s. The Merlin, Czechmaster
and H-R kits.
I believe the Merlin and the CM kit seem to be made directly from the
same set of masters and the H-R is a knockoff of one of these.
There is the word "Bottom" engraved on the underside of the stabiliizer
where it mounts to the fuselage and also "Left" & "Right" engraved on
the tabs of the wing center piece.
On the Merlin, this writing is very clear, on the CM it has obviously
been sanded over. You could make it out, but it had been sanded over.
The fuselage of the CM was nearly 2mm too narrow and the wings had been
thinned a lot. This leads me to believe the Merlin was the first release
from this set of masters and the CM mold was made from the same masters
which had been re-worked. The HR kit had so much re-working that I think
they re-worked a Merlin or a CM kit to use as their masters.
sp
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:56:09 -0500
From: Steven Perry
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: The Commander was Merlin Kits
Message-ID: <3DBEE7D9.90905@tampabay.rr.com>
> Any news from the front, commander? Are the troops rallying?
> Mack
The front is quiet and stable at this time, the Commander is taking care
of a couple of building commitments at this time. An operation to mount
the lower wings and tailfeathers is planned to be followed on by a
campaign to add exterior fuselage details. The offensive will resume as
soon as the 3 Breguets are off the bench.
sp
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:58:24 -0600
From: Ken Schmitt
To:
Subject: having a BM on Aeroclub
Message-ID:
Fraser-
Def easier on the Aeroclub, Sorry, man. The layout is a lot less fiddly but
would give Chris this: 2 engine versions. Aeroclub wings are a bit thick but
otherwise quite nice. Also have a nice solution for the u/c, which is
helpful (as vs. bendy thingies that discard).
> I understand this is an less painful kit to build than the BM,
> which I have, with horribly rippled wings (and they're a replacement set).
> Comments?
>
>
> Still waiting for the 1/32 version
well.
May be a few weeks...
-Skeeter
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:53:41 -0600 (CST)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Getting back into it
Message-ID: <200210291953.g9TJrfC40900@king1.kingsnake.com>
How does one get back into on topic, when the chops just aren't there? I
find - although I want to build everything WW1 I own - I've lost the drive
to finish things up.
Maybe that's the problem. I have so many in progress that it just seems
too daunting. Although I want to start something new, I know I shouldn't
because of all the others still outstanding.
It also doesn't help that I'm going through my stash marking things to
sell, and even with that "much" out of the way it seems to have hardly
touched the stash.
I guess I just got the blues, is all...
Matt
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:14:46 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
Sometimes, when this has happened to me, a new project that I was
enthusiastic about broke the logjam...Also, I find that working on multiple
builds at the same time, also helps keep me interested....Plus, since I
haven't touched a model in almost 5 months, I'm really chomping at the bit
to get at it again.....Try that new one, it may get you rolling....
Regards,
John
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:17:44 -0600
From: "Harris, Mack"
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
(snip) Matt pines.....
I guess I just got the blues, is all...
Matt
Time to build something wacky, how about the Jetson's saucer or the Scooby
Doo Mystery Machine then give it to some kid or give a model away or help
someone else in some way, great way to revitilize yourself. It's still a
long winter ahead, don't get the blues too early.
Mack
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:44:45 -0500
From: Steven Perry
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Modeler on Judge show
Message-ID: <3DBEF33D.1010402@tampabay.rr.com>
BvB is watching "Divorce Court" . Some woman is up there busting her
husband's chops. The judge asks him why he spends do much on his model
cars. He says he goes to model shows. The judge says "You shore spend a
lot of money at model shows." The guy just shrugs and says, "yeah". He
goes on about working two jobs, but he lost the judge back at the model
show.
sp
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:03:27 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
Mack:
Wrong! You're enabling his wayward behviour! He needs to get straight and
fly right (or left), get his finger out, get his head screwed on etc., not
start a flippin' Flinstone car or something:).
Michael
>From: "Harris, Mack"
>
>(snip) Matt pines.....
> I guess I just got the blues, is all...
>
>Matt
>
>Time to build something wacky, how about the Jetson's saucer or the >Scooby
>Doo Mystery Machine then give it to some kid or give a model >away or help
>someone else in some way, great way to revitilize >yourself. It's still a
>long winter ahead, don't get the blues too >early.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:20:05 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Modeler on Judge show
Message-ID:
>From: Steven Perry
>BvB is watching "Divorce Court" . Some woman is up there busting her
>husband's chops. The judge asks him why he spends do much on his model
>cars. He says he goes to model shows. The judge says "You shore spend a
>lot of money at model shows." The guy just shrugs and says, "yeah". He
>goes on about working two jobs, but he lost the judge back at the model
>show.
Just makes me laugh at this sort of response, which can be fairly close to
reality. Nobody would bat an eyelid if he paid $1,500 a year for season
tickets to some idiotic football franchise or blew $500 a year on cable or
$800 on having his lawn cut rather than do it himself. But mention you
spend a grand a year on your plastic model hobby and you're a wastrel -
taking clothes and college money away from from your kids.
No relaxation for him! When he's making those models, he could just as well
be painting the hall ceiling or fixing the bathroom wall because his
imbecile offspring broke the toilet roll holder while using it as a foothold
for his "Mountaineering" game. I mean it's no different from making those
useless plastic models - just a bigger scale and much more "productive". I
kid you not.
Michael
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:16:50 -0600
From: "Harris, Mack"
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
Michael insensitively declares:
Mack:
Wrong! You're enabling his wayward behviour! He needs to get straight and
fly right (or left), get his finger out, get his head screwed on etc., not
start a flippin' Flinstone car or something:).
Michael
Michael, Michael, Michael, where's your sensitivity? Where's your humanity?
I was just trying to get Mr. Bittner to get in touch with his feminine side.
You're being much too harsh. Don't you know we're all winners, there are no
losers. We must make everyone feel good about themselves. Maybe you need
some diversity training or better yet a stay in a reeducation camp for a
month or six. (:~)> (that's my smiley face with a goatee I wish I had)
Mack
with way too much time on his hands today.
nb still working on the Gotha GIII, I will finish it, I will finish it....
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:38:06 +1000
From: "Shane Weier"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
Message-ID:
Neil says:
>Just a quick clarification here, if it's in Europe it's an elk
>not a moose. Mooses are in Canada, and soon in Australia, the
>postal services are terribly slow
S
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:41:40 +1000
From: "Shane Weier"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
Message-ID:
> >
> > Just a quick clarification here, if it's in Europe it's an elk
> > not a moose. Mooses are in Canada, and soon in Australia, the
> > postal services are terribly slow.
>
>both make a terrinly big dent in your car - and a lot of room in the
> >freezer.
>
S
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:44:02 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner"
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
Message-ID:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:43:10 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote:
>
ROTFLMAO!!!
That and the last one were great.
Matt Bittner
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:14 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ??
Message-ID: <9f.2f98a298.2af05c5a@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/29/02 5:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes:
<< Ursula Andress>>
D.
>>
yeah- more "bear" than moose.....
RK.......hey folks- just reaching here for the homonymity.......
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:52:45 +0100
From: Witold Kozakiewicz
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Overseas Postage
Message-ID: <3DBF032D.5080203@bg.am.lodz.pl>
ZELNICK, KENNETH T napisa³:
> Grzegorz wrote:
>
>
>>If you decide to move to Poland, you'd be welcome!
>
>
> Do you think I could learn to speak Polish? I can just barely speak English. ;)
>
It's easy...
many people can speak so it can't be difficult. ;-)
most of them make mistakes.
Lesson 1.
Lubie kleic modele samolotow z okresu Wielkiej Wojny.
Moja ulubiona strona internetowa to www.wwi-models.org.
:-)
--
Witek Kozakiewicz
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:53:04 +1000
From: "Shane Weier"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
Mak says:
>Don't you know we're all winners, there are no
>losers.
Give it a break mate. Matt builds 1/72 *French* aircraft.
>We must make everyone feel good about themselves
So send him something in 1/48 PC.10
;-)
Shane
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:01:45 +1000
From: "Shane Weier"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
Matt says:
>How does one get back into on topic, when the chops just aren't >there? I
>find - although I want to build everything WW1 I own - I've lost the drive
>to finish things up.
Joking aside, this is about as common a problem as there are modellers. I
suspect that we get so *focussed* on things that eventually somewhere deep
in the unconscious it all gets to feel too much like *work*
That's why many modellers advocate building something you'd not normally
make - take a mental holiday building something you know too little about to
get all picky on the details.
>
>Maybe that's the problem. I have so many in progress that it just seems
>too daunting. Although I want to start something new, I know I shouldn't
>because of all the others still outstanding.
FWIW look back over your posts in the last 12 months *I* think you're
sweating the details so much that you're becoming agenuine case of AMS
It isn't easy to decide "near enough" when the subject is one that is near
and dear to you (bloody Nieuports ;-) but if you can't ever feel satisfied
with what you've done you'll soon be hating them.....
>It also doesn't help that I'm going through my stash marking things to
>sell, and even with that "much" out of the way it seems to have hardly
>touched the stash.
I can help with that. My new address is....
203 Rid........
Shane
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:32 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg"
To:
Subject: Re: Getting back into it
Message-ID:
John makes a good point about a hiatus. I routinely take the summer off
and do no building at all from mid-April until the first of October. By
the time the "season" rolls around, I'm re-energized and raring to go.
>From October to April, I probably average 20 or more hours every week,
and don't burn out.
Maybe a break would help, Matt...
Lance
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