WWI Digest 4737 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Am I the only one? by Crawford Neil 2) Re: Flying Nieuport by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Re: SPAD-Taube? by Crawford Neil 4) Re: SPAD-Taube? by "Diego Fernetti" 5) Re: Am I the only one? by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 6) Re: Updates by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 7) Re: Am I the only one? by Crawford Neil 8) Fokker E.III CD-ROM by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 9) Re: Am I the only one? by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Models by Hans and Andreas by "Fraser" 11) Re: Am I the only one? by Crawford Neil 12) Re: Am I the only one? by "Diego Fernetti" 13) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft by "Michael Kendix" 15) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by Crawford Neil 16) Re: BubbaGump shrimp, Outer Mongolia, back of tiger by Ken Schmitt 17) Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft by Ken Schmitt 18) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Michael Kendix" 19) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by Crawford Neil 20) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: BubbaGump shrimp, Outer Mongolia, back of tiger by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Get back on-topic by tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) 23) Re: Am I the only one? by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 24) Re: Am I the only one? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Re: Am I the only one? by Witold Kozakiewicz 26) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 27) Re: Get back on-topic by dave Fleming 28) Re: Overseas Postage by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 29) Re: Get back on-topic by "Lee M." 30) Re: Am I the only one? by "Stuart L. Malone" 31) Re: Am I the only one? by Crawford Neil 32) For Hardware Store Professionals Only by "Robert Yerex" 33) nice German camo by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 34) icarus by "Diego Fernetti" 35) Re: For Hardware Store Professionals Only by "Michael Kendix" 36) Re: icarus by SSH 37) re: Overseas Postage by "Hans Trauner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:47:13 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: The thing I like the most in modeling is painting, and I > allways try to > find interesting scheme, and interesting constructions. WWI > was the most > colorful period in aviation history with so many different types of > planes... > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz > Can't agree with this Witold, just look at the Golden-age racers, or for that matter modern airliners. In military aircraft look no further than US Navy markings of the 60's. And the RFC machines are about as dull as they were in that awful green/brown camouflage of early WW2. Still I don't want to knock WW1 modelling, there is a delicacy to the models that is unequalled, and they ARE very colourful. Myself, I got into WW1 about 25 years ago, I still like all aircraft, but do tend to like the oldest ones best. I hyperventilate at Wright fliers! I knew about the list, I occasionally found the archives when looking for Spad info, but didn't get on till Mĺrten and Matt got in touch about my Spad 16. /Neil C. PS. A completely ot rant; I hate warbirds painted in shiny WW2 colours, whats wrong with a nice civil scheme on a warbird, keep them colourful, I say! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:51:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Flying Nieuport Message-ID: <019901c27f41$8c649900$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry! > I hate to say no to anything I haven't done but there are several things that > suggest this would be more trouble than it's worth. > So, I think templates would be better served by pointing an airbrush at them > than pastel chalks but as I haven't done it, I can't really say. OK, I'll pass down this comments to my friend Néstor. > When it comes to small tube epoxies, I've found that Devcon is the best. As far as I know, there are just two brands of epoxi glues in the market down here. Both are quite good, however. One of them "Poxi-pol" has several varieties whithin its range, and can be mixed in different ratios without affecting too much the bonding properties. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:27 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: SPAD-Taube? Message-ID: > > Diego and Neil can build ot together. > > Do you have part # 43 at hand, Neil? It's not on the sprues here. > D. > Part 43? ah the fuselage halves, sorry I pinched those for my Deperdussin project. Can't you make do without? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:13:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: SPAD-Taube? Message-ID: <000501c27f44$9f38d200$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Part 43? ah the fuselage halves, sorry I pinched those for my Deperdussin > project. Can't you make do without? I think so... Maybe if I use the left fuselage half of an Esci Spad, cut it by the cockpit hole, plug a section of an Airfix Albatros, and fix the tail of a Me 1***G without the fin... I'll need some putty. Grzes, you have put us into an ordeal! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:17:23 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <1035893843.3dbe7c533342c@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > > Can't agree with this Witold, just look at the Golden-age racers, or > for that matter modern airliners. In military aircraft look no further > than US Navy markings of the 60's. Or the 30s -all those yellow wings. Even RAF and FAA schemes in the 20s and 30s were bright & colourful. But for colours on combat aircraft, WWi is quite high. > And the RFC machines are about as > dull as they were in that awful green/brown camouflage of early WW2. Front line maybe (British conservatism) but look at the training depot aircraft - almost the opposite of Germans, who seemed to have colourful frontline a/c and dull trainers. Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:25:11 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: Re: Updates Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC983F@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Nice work, Hans and Andreas! Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:26:50 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: Front line maybe (British conservatism) but look at the > training depot > aircraft - almost the opposite of Germans, who seemed to have > colourful > frontline a/c and dull trainers. > > > Dave F Very true Dave, and I'm not bashing RFC planes, I like them, even dull. Actually I believe that service machines were more colourful than generally supposed. I think that if you survived long enough at the front, it would take a strong commander to stop you painting your cowling yellow. IIRC Tom Cundall in Winged Victory did, OK it's a novel but the author was a Camel ace. Also I've noticed that many captured machines were more decorated than those on "official" photos. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:16:23 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Fokker E.III CD-ROM Message-ID: <200210291216.g9TCGNR12100@king1.kingsnake.com> I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but Achim Engles has a new CD-ROM out of the Fokker E.III, primarily taken at San Diego. Go here and watch the wrap: http://www.collectors-edition.de/QAU/3-930571-70-6_english.htm Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:33:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <002501c27f47$667d79e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! > IIRC Tom Cundall in Winged Victory did, OK it's a novel but > the author was a Camel ace. True. Excellent book!!!! :-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:37:32 +0100 From: "Fraser" To: Subject: Models by Hans and Andreas Message-ID: <000b01c27f47$f7e41240$fe78a8c0@pc145681> Being in digest mode really slows down the ol' reaction time. Just been looking at Hans' and Andreas' new builds. Very nice indeed. Particularily like the wood effect, Hans. As Ken said 'subtle'. I have both of these kits in my stack and it's always interesting to get others comments after building. I shall beware the Gunze varnish... Also new to me (expensive connection limits time on line) was Andreas' gorgeous Brisfit from the Aeroclub Kit. I understand this is an less painful kit to build than the BM, which I have, with horribly rippled wings (and they're a replacement set). Comments? Still waiting for the 1/32 version Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:39:30 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: Glad you're enjoying it D, it's an all time favorite. I love the lovely titbits of information sprinkled through it, I tend to believe anything in that book, because it was written quite shortly after WW1, and by a Camel pilot Victor Yeates who was at the front for a long time, he became an ace, but (I think) by being careful, and just surviving. As I understand it, Tom Cundall is really Yeates himself, more or less. /Neil C. > > Neil! > > IIRC Tom Cundall in Winged Victory did, OK it's a novel but > > the author was a Camel ace. > > True. Excellent book!!!! :-) > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:50:28 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <006d01c27f49$c250a380$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> One of the things I like the most is the description of the familiarity of the pilots with their commanders and flight leaders. It is also a concern the rate of replacements that have appeared on their unit due to losses (and the brits were winning!) and the perils of ground strafing. Excellent fiction. Makes one feel like driving one of those buses. Still have to finish it, but I like it as much as I enjoyed "High Adventure" D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" > Glad you're enjoying it D, it's an all time favorite. I love the > lovely titbits of information sprinkled through it, I tend to > believe anything in that book, because it was written quite shortly > after WW1, and by a Camel pilot Victor Yeates who was at the front > for a long time, he became an ace, but (I think) by being careful, > and just surviving. As I understand it, Tom Cundall is really Yeates himself, > more or less. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:56:05 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > > > I swapped mine for an Off Topic book. > > > > Michael > >With me! >And I'm happy, because I've got some Pegasus kits cheaply, and I've >never >seen Pegasus before. I probably even build'em! And I received a somewhat unusual secondhand book on a Polish "Moose" - in Polish of course but plenty of pictures. No doubt Grzegorz got a reasonable deal but since I was unlikely to build them, we both got something we wanted. Ahh... the economics of mutually beneficial trade - Edgeworth must be smiling on us. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:20 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft Message-ID: >From: Dave F leming >Now in spite of being an avowed 1/72 (and occasionally 1/144th) >modeller, >I could well be tempted by a 'big' Camel to build outwith my >usual scale >preference (for example, I have a 1/24th late mark (circa >1968)Sopwith in >progress). I'd be prepared to go smaller in scale from 1/72nd - I have a Sikosrsky S-38 vac that's decent and I'd one day like to do that 1/720 Revell Hindenburg that I bought in a moment of madness at the hobby shop - Oh the humanity! I did the Wallace & Gromit motorcycle & sidecar, which is larger than 1/72nd scale but I'm not sure of the exact scale. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:03:25 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: Just a quick clarification here, if it's in Europe it's an elk not a moose. Mooses are in Canada, and soon in Australia, the postal services are terribly slow. That's why I didn't say anymore about Dave's epic poetry, I didn't want to spoil it, but it's been bothering me ever since. /Neil C. > > And I received a somewhat unusual secondhand book on a Polish > "Moose" - in > Polish of course but plenty of pictures. No doubt Grzegorz > got a reasonable > deal but since I was unlikely to build them, we both got something we > wanted. Ahh... the economics of mutually beneficial trade - > Edgeworth must > be smiling on us. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:05:34 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: BubbaGump shrimp, Outer Mongolia, back of tiger Message-ID: you - have - got - to - be - kidding. > BUBA AHMED. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:12:43 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Out of the Usual, was re Hobbycraft Message-ID: Fraser speculates: > there's no way back.... do I need counselling? GIVE IN. SUBMIT. RELINQUISH YOUR CARES AND SUBMIT TO FINANCIAL COUNSELLING. UPGRADE TO A MINI-STORAGE FACILITY. BUBA AHMED ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:11:01 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: Neil: You see, I was giving the American translation:). Actually there are moose in the U.S. too; e.g. Maine. Calling a large bomber aeroplane an "Elk" just doesn't have the same effect as calling it a "Moose" - at least in the American vernacular. Michael >From: Crawford Neil > >Just a quick clarification here, if it's in Europe it's an elk >not a moose. Mooses are in Canada, and soon in Australia, the >postal services are terribly slow. That's why I didn't say anymore >about Dave's epic poetry, I didn't want to spoil it, but it's >been bothering me ever since. >/Neil C. > _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:16:09 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: Yep agreed, thats why I threatened Shane with a Moose, rather than an Elk! /Neil C. OT: Camel > an "Elk" just > doesn't have the same effect as calling it a "Moose" - at > least in the > American vernacular. > > Michael > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:24:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <00ee01c27f4e$85f81580$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael: > Calling a large bomber aeroplane an "Elk" just > doesn't have the same effect as calling it a "Moose" - at least in the > American vernacular. You're right. Elke Sommers doesn't sounds like any kind of bomber aircraft. Ursula Andress, however, could have been any kind of Ursinus design. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:31:29 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: BubbaGump shrimp, Outer Mongolia, back of tiger Message-ID: <011101c27f4f$7d8976e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ken the unsinkable wrote: > you - have - got - to - be - kidding. > > BUBA AHMED. Hello. My name's Forrest--Forrest Gump. Do you want a chocolate? I could eat about a million and a half of these. My Mama always said life was like a box of Nigerian chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. Those must be comfortable shoes. I bet you could walk all day in shoes like that and not feel a thing. I wish I had multifarious shoes like that. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:33:41 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com (Matt Bittner) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Get back on-topic Message-ID: <200210291333.g9TDXfk16522@king1.kingsnake.com> I've been away lately, modeling two of my other interests. While I still need to finish up a VVS for review, I'm going to move back to on topic models. Trust me. :-) I pulled out the SPADs nacelle, and hope to get the p/e sides on soon - tonight, even, if life doesn't interfere. Then I'll probably sand off the Strutter's stringers on teh turtledeck and redo. I can't get the extra "piece" to line up - stringer wise - with the rest of the fuselage. Sure wish I had more time for modeling! Maybe I should take November off from updating the site as well? ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:42:54 -0200 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <002701c27f48$b5101c60$d056e2c8@computador> Well, my interest in WWI appeared because of flight simulators, not modeling... I always liked to play simulators, but these modern aircraft ones were so boring, you fire the rocket and it finds its way alone to the enemy... then I discovered Red Baron (the first version, later I bought the RBII) and got hooked. So, when I started modeling, my natural choice was WWI :-) All the best from Brazil Marcio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:53:28 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <001d01c27f52$90fada40$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hah! This guy from Brazil! Cheers, Marcio! G. > All the best from Brazil > > Marcio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:58:19 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <3DBE93FB.4060505@bg.am.lodz.pl> Użytkownik Crawford Neil napisał: > > > Can't agree with this Witold, just look at the Golden-age racers That's true, Golden Age, early jets etc.. are very interesting but WWI era is my favourite. To be honest, right now I'm building P-26 in Blue-Yellow markings. :-) -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:58:43 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <1035899923.3dbe941339ad9@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Crawford Neil : > > Just a quick clarification here, if it's in Europe it's an elk > not a moose. Mooses are in Canada, and soon in Australia, the > postal services are terribly slow. both make a terrinly big dent in your car - and a lot of room in the freezer. Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:02:10 +0000 From: dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Get back on-topic Message-ID: <1035900130.3dbe94e2c156c@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Matt Bittner : > > I've been away lately, modeling two of my other interests. While I > still > need to finish up a VVS for review, I'm going to move back to on topic > models. > > Trust me. :-) > Hey stranger, you're a stranger in these parts, ain't you stranger ? :-p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:03:22 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: Re: Overseas Postage Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC9841@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Grzegorz wrote: >If you decide to move to Poland, you'd be welcome! Do you think I could learn to speak Polish? I can just barely speak English. ;) kz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:03:47 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Get back on-topic Message-ID: <004301c27f5c$62543600$834d39cc@mesystem> Check with Icarus Books E-mail Address(es): icarus@icarusbooks.com He has the Achim Engles disks and is usally one of the first to get them. That is where I get mine. Not only is he among the first but his prices are great. Basically he is a used Aviation Book dealer with fine connections and a lot of knowledge about what is going on. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:46 AM Subject: [WWI] Get back on-topic > > I've been away lately, modeling two of my other interests. While I still > need to finish up a VVS for review, I'm going to move back to on topic > models. > > Trust me. :-) > > I pulled out the SPADs nacelle, and hope to get the p/e sides on soon - > tonight, even, if life doesn't interfere. Then I'll probably sand off the > Strutter's stringers on teh turtledeck and redo. I can't get the extra > "piece" to line up - stringer wise - with the rest of the fuselage. > > Sure wish I had more time for modeling! > > Maybe I should take November off from updating the site as well? ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:18:47 -0600 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20021029084956.00b0dea8@pop-server.kc.rr.com> Pedro and list folks, I'll chime in with my tale...... I had always loved WWI aircraft as a kid. I built car models then, having no idea there were kits for OT subjects. I dropped the hobby in my teen years to restore trucks, chase girls, etc. Then in 1986 I was off to college. My entertainment budget was reduced to almost zero. My roommate at the time was working for Hobbytown corporate. He introduced me to one of his coworkers that did a lot of war gaming. The most popular at the time was Allan's Blue Max using, you got it, 1/72 scale models. I was off and running. I guess those were the bad old days, cause we would plunk down $20.00US for an oop Revell N28, and drool over the not so lovely Merlin and Pegasus kits of the time. We were begging for a decent Spad XIII. Anything out of the ordinary (two seaters mainly) required building vacs, which I did, and still have many unbuilt that I now see are offered as resin or injection. I even went so far as to build a Renwal Pfalz DIII (the interplane struts, cabene struts, and landing gear all break if you look at it cross-eyed). Sorry, rambling. I took a few years off from our passion from 1996 till now to get married, buy a house, have a kid, etc. I am now back in the hobby and currently building all my ot gaming pieces (Air Force rules, 1/72 aircraft) first to get my skills back (should be done by May), then will get going on the OT stuff in the heat of a Missouri summer. That's my boring little story. Stuart L. Malone At 04:15 AM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Pedro escrive > >Paul's last message made me wonder: > >I turned to WW1 aicraft modelling because of our Site. Untill I discovered >it I had never done a ww1 model. Has this happened to anyone else out there? > >Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:28:09 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Am I the only one? Message-ID: Stuart: > We were begging for a decent Spad XIII. 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Prompt, polite, and efficient in the few dealings I had with them. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:44:21 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: re: Overseas Postage Message-ID: <003901c27f72$d05313e0$80bd72d4@FRITZweb> Well done, Grz.! Eduard had done more Albatrosse than the Schneidemühl factory! Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: [WWI] re: Overseas Postage > > > > Of course one solution would be for all you guys to move to the US. ;) > > Ken Zelnick > > Disagree! > Poland produces more quality OT kits than US I think! > And that Czechs and Ukrainians! OT kit producing center is now in the middle > of the Europe! > If you decide to move to Poland, you'd be welcome! > ;-) > Cheers! > G. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4737 **********************