WWI Digest 4734 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Paul Thompson's models by Larry Marshall 2) Re: another se5 gun question and another by Michael Fletcher 3) another se5 gun question and another by Ken Schmitt 4) Re: another se5 gun question and another by Ray 5) Re: another se5 gun question and another by SSH 6) Re: cutting insulation by SSH 7) Re: cutting insulation by "Lee M." 8) Re: another se5 gun question and another by "Lee M." 9) Hobbycraft by "Shane Weier" 10) The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon by "peter leonard" 11) =?gb2312?q?=CA=D4=D2=BB=CF=C2=D5=E2=B8=F6=B0=C9=A3=A1?= by "cmaya.com" <563336@yahoo.com> 12) Brent's Idea by "Diego Fernetti" 13) Re: another se5 gun question and another by "Diego Fernetti" 14) Re: Flying Nieuport by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon by Larry Marshall 16) Re: Flying Nieuport by Larry Marshall 17) Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon by "Michael Kendix" 18) Re: Flying Nieuport by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Re: Americal/Gryphon by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 21) How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 22) RE: Paul Thompson's models by Crawford Neil 23) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Diego Fernetti" 24) RE: Paul Thompson's models by "Diego Fernetti" 25) RE: Paul Thompson's models by Crawford Neil 26) RE: Paul Thompson's models by "Pedro N. Soares" 27) RE: Paul Thompson's models by "Diego Fernetti" 28) Re: cutting insulation by John Huggins 29) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 30) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 31) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by "Diego Fernetti" 32) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by wwi@wwi-models.org (Multiple recipients of list) 33) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 34) Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:25:14 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: <200210271925.14305.larrym@sympatico.ca> Did I miss the announcement of Paul Thompson's new model postings? In any case...congrats, Paul. The Snipe looks great. The Gotha is awesome!!! Right scale too [gd&r]. I concur that those Roden struts are skinny buggers. It's why I've left my Gotha kit on the shelf until I shed at least one more thumb. I'm curious how you used the Part rigging fittings with stainless. Inquiring minds (especially those that use stretched sprue and stainless) wanna know. -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:20:14 -0500 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: <3DBC90CE.7A717BE7@rogers.com> > At 90 mph the following plane is going 132 feet per second and may be > catching up about 20 to 40 feet per second. 22 feet per second is catching > up with a 15 mph speed advantage. (The plane being chased is moving at 75 > mph.) That gives the victim about 8-9 seconds to see you and get his butt > in gear, change direction, or something in a manner you may not expect. > So it may be that a lot of aces shot from closer distances but it would be > hard to belive they did. Given that the further you are from a moving target the harder it is to hit, statisticly the largest number of hits should be from the shortest distances (within reason). Since it wouldn't take many bullets to put a pilot (or his machine) out of action, one close approach may be all that is usually required. Mike Fl. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:33:01 -0600 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: The list sez: > if you have say a bankers draft drawn on outer > mongolia savings and loan with a branch in New Your there will at the minimum > be 2 federal reserve banks who take part in the clearing of the item. > Wow, lots of people basically saying the same thing. so. Is it possible to boresight a banker? and: Does anyone know if Americal sells decals for Ruritania, Gabon or Outer Mongolia? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:00:39 -0800 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: <200210271900.39590.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Why of course. Ghengis-Khan had a whole squadron of Bored Bankers flying pink and charteuse SE2's equiped with rapid fire Vickers Cross Bows using Constantinople interrupter gear. The only problem was take off. Its hard to get the Mongolian war pony that powered these aircraft to run fast enough for take off speed! In the air instead of getting covered in oil, you had to watch for flying stuff from the rear of the pony. Markings for these aircraft are on sheet AG 72-666. Lets see hmm someone in a white jacket is knocking at my door.... Later eh, Ray On Sunday 27 October 2002 18:32, you wrote: > The list sez: > > if you have say a bankers draft drawn on outer > > mongolia savings and loan with a branch in New Your there will at the > > minimum be 2 federal reserve banks who take part in the clearing of the > > item. Wow, lots of people basically saying the same thing. > > so. > > Is it possible to boresight a banker? > > and: > > Does anyone know if Americal sells decals for Ruritania, Gabon or Outer > Mongolia? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:16:15 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: <20021028031556.20A701041DC@mail.mailsnare.net> >>>>>Is it possible to boresight a banker? ----- yes, when he/she is banking to starboard. >>>>>>Does anyone know if Americal sells decals for Ruritania, ----- Americal has Ruritania covered with sheets #29 thru 34 (Balkenkreuze). Sheet 55 is Turkish insignia, spitting distance from O Mongolia, stone throw from inner M. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:26:18 -0500 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: cutting insulation Message-ID: <20021028032558.66A27104199@mail.mailsnare.net> Tom, I finally managed to get some decent results using Lee Mensinger's idea for a brass-tube jig. The shaving approach does work, it produces a straight cut, but slit approach produces a better looking padding. Thanks, Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:37:45 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: cutting insulation Message-ID: <008101c27e33$61753ba0$994d39cc@mesystem> Glad you tried it and liked it. There are many ways and some work beeter for some and poorer for others but we never know till we try. One thing for sure..It can't twist very much. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SSH" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: cutting insulation > Tom, > I finally managed to get some decent results using Lee > Mensinger's idea for a brass-tube jig. > The shaving approach does work, it produces a straight cut, but > slit approach produces a better looking padding. > Thanks, > Sanjeev > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:47:48 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: <009101c27e34$c8b99580$994d39cc@mesystem> Unfortunate for the one fired upon.. It only takes one bullet in the right place and the right time. And that sucker out there may be firing up to 600 a minute, from one gun...And he might have two. But it is still not easy to do. A little turbulence, A smart opponent. A lot of luck or very little. To many variables to be all that easy. Most folks will agree. A sneaky attacker has a distinct advantage. Until he fires his weapons... Then it may become a different story ending. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Fletcher" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: another se5 gun question and another > Given that the further you are from a moving target the harder it is to > hit, statisticly the largest number of hits should be from the shortest > distances (within reason). Since it wouldn't take many bullets to put a > pilot (or his machine) out of action, one close approach may be all that > is usually required. > > Mike Fl. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:33:31 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hobbycraft Message-ID: Pulled from Hyperscale News of the Hobbycraft P-##s in 48th.... Sun Oct 27 19:48:19 2002 64.229.183.44 At the Ajax modelling show today, I handled the first test shot of the Hobbycraft #### ####. This shot represented the early version, and later versions will also be made, I believe as separate kits.. The P######s and C#####s should be out by late spring. The P#####r is the early version, but the C#####s will be the standard aircraft, the photo bird and the trainer. All individual kits. The A#### is being completely revamped and corrected. The 32nd Neiuport 17 is being retooled, this will be followed by a Camel, two versions (Clerget engine) Aces, and (Le Rhone engine) Royal Flying Corps. And finally, there will be a 32nd Fokker Triplane, Werner Voss. No time scale has been given, but the molds are being cut in China... Regards, Derek of Toronto _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 02:25:15 -0500 From: "peter leonard" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <20021028072516.5360.qmail@mail.com> Dealing with E-bay vendors has been mentioned. The most frustrating thing ever is to find that long wanted kit only to have it accompanied by the legend "...ships to US only". That really is a pain in the @R$£. Some commercial dealers are not so bad, but in some cases I can reckon on paying the same number in pounds as the price in dollars once all the extras are added on. This represents a 50% markup on the US Price.As a f'rinstance I should like to buy a drawing from the Smithsonian (Consolidated PT-1/PT-3 since you ask}. It's $7:50 plus $25:00 overseas postage. Contrast that with Hannants, no slouch at jacking up prices, who offer a discount to overseas customers which offsets the increased postage. cheers Peter L in grouch mode -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:07:55 +0800 From: "cmaya.com" <563336@yahoo.com> To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?gb2312?q?=CA=D4=D2=BB=CF=C2=D5=E2=B8=F6=B0=C9=A3=A1?= Message-ID: <200210280907.EAA04686@mustang.sr.unh.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format --4c24915e-e7b5-4160-9a8f-47a5a4110dbd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C4=FA=BB=B9=D4=DA=CE=AA=D5=D2=B2=BB=B5=BD=BE=AD=BC=C3=CA=CA=D3=C3=A1=A2=CE=C8= =B6=A8=B8=DF=CB=D9=B5=C4=CD=F8=D5=BE=BF=D5=BC=E4=BF=E0=C4=D5=C2=F0=A3=BF =D2=D4=B3=CF=D0=C5=A1=A2=D3=C5=C1=BC=B7=FE=CE=F1=D6=F8=B3=C6=B5=C4=A1=B0=C2=EA= =D1=C5=CD=F8=C2=E7=A1=B1=A3=A8http://www.cmaya.com=A3=A9 =CF=F2=C4=FA=D6=A3=D6=D8=CD=C6=BC=F6----- Linux =C6=BD=CC=A8=CF=B5=C1=D0 =D0=E9=C4=E2=D6=F7=BB=FA =C8=EB=C3=C5=D0=CD 50M=CD=F8=D2=B3=BF=D5=BC=E4 65=D4=AA/=C4=EA =BD=F8=BD=D7II=D0=CD 100M=CD=F8=D2=B3=BF=D5=BC=E4 =D6=A7=B3=D6cgi=A1=A2PHP=A3= =AC=C1=ED=D4=F9=CB=CD5M MySQL=CA=FD=BE=DD=BF=E2=A3=A1 120=D4=AA/=B0=EB=C4=EA = 220=D4=AA/=C4=EA =B8=DF=CA=D6=D0=CD 200M=CD=F8=D2=B3=BF=D5=BC=E4 =D6=A7=B3=D6cgi=A1=A2PHP=A3=AC= =C1=ED=D4=F9=CB=CD5M MySQL=CA=FD=BE=DD=BF=E2=A3=A1 175=D4=AA/=B0=EB=C4=EA = 300=D4=AA/=C4=EA =B6=F8=C9=CF=CA=F6=BC=B8=D6=D6=B6=BC=C3=E2=B7=D1=D4=F9=CB=CD=B6=FE=BC=B6=D3=F2= =C3=FB=A3=AC=CC=E1=B9=A9=B6=D4=B6=A5=BC=B6=D3=F2=C3=FB=B5=C4=D6=A7=B3=D6=A1=A3= =D5=E6=CA=C7=CE=EF=B3=AC=CB=F9=D6=B5=B0=A1=A3=A1 =C7=EB=B5=E3=BB=F7 http://www.cmaya.com =C1=CB=BD=E2=B8=FC=B6=E0=A1=A3 --4c24915e-e7b5-4160-9a8f-47a5a4110dbd-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Brent's Idea Message-ID: <01b501c27e6f$139fbae0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Eric from the Cooper State wrote: > if you two want a 1/48th strakeen, pony up about 7,000 usd and i'll produce > it for you and you can sell it and make the millions off of it. what ya > say!!! Hey Brent, I really don't need a 1/48 Staaken bomber kit, but if you want it I have here this money order from the First National Bank of Mongolia and Ruritania for USD 3.500 that Glen Merril bounced me a while ago. The very sight of it is boring me to death! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:03:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: another se5 gun question and another Message-ID: <01cd01c27e71$b4b8a840$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ken -but not Barbie´s boyfriend- wrote: > Does anyone know if Americal sells decals for Ruritania, Gabon or Outer > Mongolia? There are Ruritanian markings in Americal sheet #72-9863495873 with Zenda Air Service markings, that as you must infer, there are all the same. The sheet also carries markings from other small central European nation, The Duchy of Grand Fenwick. About Gabon, I'm afraid that can't be bought from Americals, but a friend from Nigeria that has contacted me recently told me that being the son of the deceased General Ailikyar Banana he has the means to get a lot of decals of said nation, but these are currently held by the National Bank of Congo after the revolution, so he needs my financial help to free these decals from the safebox. I'm sending him Mongolian mail stamps in exchange, that at least are very cute and have figures of animals and other lovely designs. D. Naglo, Molineau ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:51:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Flying Nieuport Message-ID: <023801c27e78$4accb460$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry! > Chris doesn't lay claim to being the first guy to use pastels to color tissue > (though most of us give him that credit) but several of us developed > techniques that made it easier and possibly less messy. Would it be possible to make Lozenge "fabric" with this technique? My friend Néstor wants to know about this. > I'm struggling with microscope scale right now and losing the battle so I > don't have time for flying models. Too bad. What about the old models? They are still stored in the USA? > So far I'm failing miserably with the struts on my Phonix D.II. > I don't know what the 'trick' is to using Tenax to glue struts in place but I > think I need to learn one :-) Mmm, I guess you don't need Tenax, in fact it may be a bit dangerous, as it softens the plastic and can affect the lenght of the struts if repeatedly used on styrene parts. It also is active for a good while, and then the struts and wing can be affected even days after gluing the parts. I guess that the best choice here is to use epoxy glue (maybe thinned with a little alcohol), that dries slowly enough to fiddle with alignment and sets quite hard. Save the Tenax for larger mating surfaces, as fuselage halves. > got to sand and repaint the wings before I can proceed....for the 4th time Look at it this way: you will be getting better paintjobs with all that practice! :-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:59:19 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <200210280659.19049.larrym@sympatico.ca> > (Consolidated PT-1/PT-3 since you ask}. It's $7:50 plus $25:00 overseas > postage. Contrast that with Hannants, no slouch at jacking up prices, who Peter, I've found that having the postage rates handy is the solution to this. I had a guy tell me it was going to cost me $15.50 to mail a 1/72 scale kit to Canada, recently. I told him that was nuts and sent him the US post rates to Canada. He quickly adjusted the amount. -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:12:37 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flying Nieuport Message-ID: <200210280712.37520.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Would it be possible to make Lozenge "fabric" with this technique? My > friend Néstor wants to know about this. I think that would be impractical. You have to rub the chalk into the tissue or it won't stick. To do this in little lozenge patches would be really hard. We generally 'paint' tissue with pastels an entire sheet at a time. > Too bad. What about the old models? They are still stored in the USA? Ha! Remember that big shelf fall I cried about a couple months ago. I only talked about the plastics that got squashed but I lost several FF models at the same time. I do have a couple ot models left but they are in a big box in storage. Seems they're safer there :-) > Mmm, I guess you don't need Tenax, in fact it may be a bit dangerous, as it > softens the plastic and can affect the lenght of the struts if repeatedly > used on styrene parts. It also is active for a good while, and then the You're right. I was steered in the wrong direction by my own inability to read. Michael Kendrix's review of the MAC Phonixes talks about trouble he had using tube glue on the struts. If you read closely you find that he solves the problem by redoing the tube glue approach and then 'adds' some ProWeld to stiffen things up. I missed the 'add' and thought he 'replaced' the tube glue. In any case, I figured he knows more than me so I should try this Pro-Weld approach so I tried to do the job with Tenax. Big mistake. Big mess. Yesterday I did the Phonix D.I using tube glue with a later addition of Tenax and it worked well. > that the best choice here is to use epoxy glue (maybe thinned with a little > alcohol), that dries slowly enough to fiddle with alignment and sets quite I thought of this but since I hadn't heard anyone talk about using epoxy I dismissed it. Is this what you use? > Look at it this way: you will be getting better paintjobs with all that > practice! :-) I guess that's the optimistic way to look at it :-) -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:28:07 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: >From: "peter leonard" >Contrast that with Hannants, no slouch at jacking up prices, who >offer a >discount to overseas customers which offsets the increased >postage. The 17.5% "discount" is the VAT they do nothave to charge non-EU residents. I know, Pegasus charges the same regardless but I think from a business pooint of view, you should be charging what it costs, rather than using one to subsidize the other. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:35:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Flying Nieuport Message-ID: <029901c27e7e$825542c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry! > I think that would be impractical. You have to rub the chalk into the tissue > or it won't stick. To do this in little lozenge patches would be really > hard. We generally 'paint' tissue with pastels an entire sheet at a time. Ahh... maybe using masks... > Ha! Remember that big shelf fall I cried about a couple months ago. I only > talked about the plastics that got squashed but I lost several FF models at > the same time. Agh. Sore loss to see the aircraft destroyed while parked. > I thought of this but since I hadn't heard anyone talk about using epoxy I > dismissed it. Is this what you use? Sometimes. I avoid epoxi glues because I'm quite lazy and the mixing process gets me in a bad mood for an entire evening. But when the parts don't behave, I usually get good results wit epoxies. To me, the clear epoxi dries a bit less rigid than the opque variety, I don't know if the brands up there are the same than here. > > Look at it this way: you will be getting better paintjobs with all that > > practice! :-) > I guess that's the optimistic way to look at it :-) You can look at the glass half full or drink it! ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:44:44 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: >From: Larry Marshall >Ray, I agree with most of what you say except for the size of the >banks. >Canadian banks are far smaller than most US banks and always >will be. ... >There just aren't enough people here for it to be any other way. Please look at Ray Boorman's response about the way the U.S. banking system works. Sure, BankAmerica Corp and Citicorp may have the largest amount of total deposits et. but the INSTITUTIONAL STRUCTURE of the United States banking system means any single bank's operation is highly fragmented making it behave as if it were a tiny bank. This is a result of the restrictions on interstate banking. Thus, a country with 30 million (or however many live in Canada) or 65 million in the UK has a banking system that behaves differently (more efficient), because the US is a Federal Rrepublic. >What's different is that the US is so US-centric that dealing with the > >outside world is not something they know about or care about. I can think of few countries in which profit motive is so well rewarded as the U.S, so I think that if it were worthwhile, they'd do it. It may appear parochial but business are often responding to the laws and reguations imposed upon them. Finally, regarding Dr. Merrill's ability or willingness to do business. He does this as a hobby - I do not think he makes any money whatsoever, unless you calculate his time rate as about $7/hour - which is probably a bit more than an average geology professor would expect to earn: it's certainly a lot less than the rate for a UPS worker. He's explained (see the list archives for around October/November 1998 - Jastagate) that he hasn't the time or inclination to expand his operation to the level needed, were he to allow email, credit card transaction etc. I think that's honest and reasonable. I prefer this to the twits at places whose website depicts every model produced since Adam was a lad but don't have any 85% it in stock, so you have to wait an unknown amount of time for delivery. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:55:10 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: The other 96%.. was Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <1035809710.3dbd33aee41f4@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting peter leonard : > Some commercial dealers are not so bad, but in some cases I can reckon > on paying the same number in pounds as the price in dollars once all the > extras are added on. This represents a 50% markup on the US Price.As a > f'rinstance I should like to buy a drawing from the Smithsonian > (Consolidated PT-1/PT-3 since you ask}. It's $7:50 plus $25:00 overseas > postage. Contrast that with Hannants, no slouch at jacking up prices, > who offer a discount to overseas customers which offsets the increased > postage. > Said discount being the VAT element, which you can claim back if you live outwith the EU ? Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:41:06 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <007101c27e87$aa3f38f0$1b4e2dcb@future> I was wondering if anyone has built both the Roden and the Pegasus Albatros kits ? Besides price how do they compare ? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:05:47 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: They are very nice indeed. That's the first Roden Gotha I've seen finished. The Snipe is really good. Diego, did you see that Knut-Erik had sent in some photos of the Deperdussin racer in Paris, where you can see into the cockpit very well. Old news probably, but I had missed them. /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <02c101c27e8b$f9976e00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I haven't built the Roden, but the Pegasus Albatros is quite a handful to detail. It builds into a very decent model, though. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: [WWI] How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? > I was wondering if anyone has built both the Roden and the Pegasus Albatros > kits ? Besides price how do they compare ? > > Cheers > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:14:44 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: <02c701c27e8c$5d7a1bc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil from where swedish rolls roam wrote: > Diego, did you see that Knut-Erik had sent in some photos of the > Deperdussin racer in Paris, where you can see into the cockpit very > well. Old news probably, but I had missed them. Yes, he sent me those pics some days ago, they are superb. I'm a little concerned now about the wings of the Classic Plane kit, guess that the easiest way to correct them is to chuck the parts in the garbage bin and made new ones from scratch. Lots of fine details to add to the bare fuselage. Fun time! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:17:50 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: I used them as wing-blanks, then skinned them in the usual HW fashion. Saved a little work. /Neil C. > Yes, he sent me those pics some days ago, they are superb. > I'm a little > concerned now about the wings of the Classic Plane kit, guess that the > easiest way to correct them is to chuck the parts in the > garbage bin and > made new ones from scratch. > Lots of fine details to add to the bare fuselage. Fun time! > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:21:54 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3023C03CA@TUFAO> Very Nice Gotha Paul, Did you have any trouble with the decals? Did the white areas stay put? I'm starting to decal mine but just in case I applied a coat of superscale decal film to the decals, just in case. To my great worry, when the decal film dried all the black areas turned milky white. I've run across this before, and I think some more decal film will make those areas clear again. but I'm worried. I'll probbaly use other decals, provided I can find crosses big enough on my stash of decals. Has anyone ever had this same problem? Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:29:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Paul Thompson's models Message-ID: <02e901c27e8e$7b4265c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yes, probably the best choice. Thanks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Paul Thompson's models > I used them as wing-blanks, then skinned them in the usual HW fashion. > Saved a little work. > /Neil C. > > > > Yes, he sent me those pics some days ago, they are superb. > > I'm a little > > concerned now about the wings of the Classic Plane kit, guess that the > > easiest way to correct them is to chuck the parts in the > > garbage bin and > > made new ones from scratch. > > Lots of fine details to add to the bare fuselage. Fun time! > > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:45:10 -0600 From: John Huggins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cutting insulation Message-ID: One other approach which I use is to pull the wire out of the insulation. Instead of trying to cut into the resulting hollow insulation, turn the blade over (sharp side up) and insert the tip in the end of the tube. If you have the insulation anchored on each end to prevent rolling, you can get a straight cut or slit in the tube. Push the blade down the length of tubing, and you get a split tube, which can be pushed up onto the plastic around the cockpit opening. JP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:41:24 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <200210281441.g9SEfO729124@king1.kingsnake.com> > I was wondering if anyone has built both the Roden and the Pegasus Albatros > kits ? Besides price how do they compare ? Let's put it this way. I sold all my Pegasus Albatros kits. :-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:20:27 +1100 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <00cc01c27e95$8b53d870$1b4e2dcb@future> Well that sure does say heaps. :-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? > > > I was wondering if anyone has built both the Roden and the Pegasus > Albatros > > kits ? Besides price how do they compare ? > > Let's put it this way. I sold all my Pegasus Albatros kits. :-) > > > Matt > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:38 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <034801c27e96$69062600$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt declared: > Let's put it this way. I sold all my Pegasus Albatros kits. :-) keep waiting for those Roden (or Tamiya) Hanriots, man! ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:15:31 -0600 (CST) From: wwi@wwi-models.org (Multiple recipients of list) To: dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar (Diego Fernetti) Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <200210281515.g9SFFVS31189@king1.kingsnake.com> > keep waiting for those Roden (or Tamiya) Hanriots, man! ;-) :-P``` Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0600 (CST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: <200210281516.g9SFGBV31204@king1.kingsnake.com> > keep waiting for those Roden (or Tamiya) Hanriots, man! ;-) :-P```` Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:29:05 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How do Rodens & Pegasus's Albs compare ?? Message-ID: Hi, While the Pegasus kits are pretty accurate and build into nice models, IMHO, there isn't much of a decision here. The Roden's are accurrate, detailed and go together pretty easily, at least the one I have built. I have at least 2 of each one issued so far and frankly, haven't purchased the Pegasus D.1/D.II or the Pegasus W.4 because Roden is doing them. And of course Roden is about one third the price of Pegasus. Just my 2cents. Regards, John ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4734 **********************