WWI Digest 4729 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII by John Huggins 2) Re:1个手机卡，8个手机号！单机通天下 #3D58 by pearlriver-deco@pearlrivertyres.com 3) 100% Guaranteed Breast Enlargement by mwoauj@yahoo.com 4) Re: 100% Guaranteed Breast Enlargement by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 5) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Shane Weier" 6) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Shane Weier" 7) diorama idea by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: diorama idea by Gianmaria Corona 9) Re: diorama idea by Steven Perry 10) RE: 1/48 Zeppelin Staaken was... Todd Hayes by Crawford Neil 11) Junkin' the junkers by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: Junkin' the junkers by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 13) Re: Junkin' the junkers by "Diego Fernetti" 14) what is this? by "Pedro N. Soares" 15) re: what is this? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 16) Re: Junkin' the junkers by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 17) trench diorama by "Diego Fernetti" 18) re: trench diorama by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 19) re: trench diorama by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Odp: re: trench diorama by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 21) SE5 gun configuration question by jeff_roby 22) Re: Odp: re: trench diorama by "Diego Fernetti" 23) re: SE5 gun configuration question by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 24) re: SE5 gun configuration question by Dave F 25) Re: Odp: re: trench diorama by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 26) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by Tom Gourdie 28) RE: SE5 gun configuration question by Crawford Neil 29) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by "Pedro N. Soares" 30) Lone Star announcement by tbittners@sprintmail.com 31) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by "Diego Fernetti" 32) Re: Lone Star announcement by "Diego Fernetti" 33) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by Crawford Neil 34) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by Peter Fedders 35) Re: what is this? by Volker Haeusler 36) Re: what is this? by "Pedro N. Soares" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:14:29 -0500 From: John Huggins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII Message-ID: From my days in the AF, we always wanted the have the stuff that disappeared in flight (fuel, ammo, bombs, etc) as close to the CG as possible. It made flying the plane a lot easier if you did not have to figure out what had to be moved when things were used or in the case of bombs, left the airframe in a hurry. When I first started flying, I was very shocked when I found out that part of my crew duties were to keep the airplane load adjusted so that the CG did not move very much during a flight. The cargo on a KC-135 was easy, because it did not move, but the fuel was another matter. The thing that surprised me was that to keep the plane in balance, the CG could only move fore and aft within a 13in long space that ran about in line with the leading edge of the wing spar. One of the tests that we were shown was to have two 150lb men stand on the CG of a balanced plane in flight. While we were watching the instruments and the auto pilot, they would have the two men run to the front of the plane. They would then run to the back of the plane. That 300lbs moving that much would send the trim system in to overdrive just to keep the plane balanced. On the fighters, the ammo was usually placed in a position where the loss of weight as it was used would have very little effect on the CG. The guns on the other hand, if they were removed, some form of ballast would be installed in their place. The more complex our planes get, the margin for error gets smaller. My guess would be that there was a much larger margin for error then that now, and the removal of a gum, would not make that much difference in the performance of the airplane. Jp On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 06:01 PM, Lee M. wrote: > That is why I specified that the guns were just aboe the fuel tank. > The > ammo is lower and comes up over the sides, of some fuel tanks, to the > guns. > The total is usually blow the pilots head at least a small distance. > > The CG is in three dimensions but it is still just a small single point > which you have or don't have in an acceptable location. 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Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:13:19 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: diorama idea Message-ID: <000501c27c0f$24ed99a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Now here's a good idea to make a diorma and a chance to show your hand at detailing the innards of the new Eduard Junkers!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727545889 D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:20:12 +0200 From: Gianmaria Corona To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: diorama idea Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021025121739.00a03c60@pop.tiscalinet.it> >Now here's a good idea to make a diorma and a chance to show your hand at >detailing the innards of the new Eduard Junkers!!! > >D. Oh noooo! Why are you so cruel? I couldn't never be able to apply a so cruel affliction to one of my model ;-)) Ciao Gianmaria Corona ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 06:29:25 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: diorama idea Message-ID: <3DB91D05.5070701@tampabay.rr.com> Amazing photo. Those wings were darn strong. That armored fuselage should have smashed through right to the ground. sp Diego Fernetti wrote: > Now here's a good idea to make a diorma and a chance to show your hand at > detailing the innards of the new Eduard Junkers!!! > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727545889 > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:33:05 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: 1/48 Zeppelin Staaken was... Todd Hayes Message-ID: Please do this Lance. Best regards Neil C. I'm > giving some > thought to a scratchbuild. > > That ought to get a kit produced... > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:43:46 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Junkin' the junkers Message-ID: <004201c27c13$65bb6d00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Gianmaria wrote: > Oh noooo! Why are you so cruel? I couldn't never be able to apply a so > cruel affliction to one of my model ;-)) Curiosly, the "crash and dumped" airplane dioramas are those made with more careful attention to detail and makes for show stoppers always. But if one chooses to make a crash of a Bristol scout, for instance, there's nothing else to do than tangle some fine wire, wrinkle a little of aluminium sheet and linen-colored japanese paper.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:58:57 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Junkin' the junkers Message-ID: <003901c27c15$8429e210$1b4e2dcb@future> Or throw the finished kit against the wall.. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:43 PM Subject: [WWI] Junkin' the junkers > Gianmaria wrote: > > Oh noooo! Why are you so cruel? I couldn't never be able to apply a so > > cruel affliction to one of my model ;-)) > > Curiosly, the "crash and dumped" airplane dioramas are those made with more > careful attention to detail and makes for show stoppers always. > But if one chooses to make a crash of a Bristol scout, for instance, there's > nothing else to do than tangle some fine wire, wrinkle a little of aluminium > sheet and linen-colored japanese paper.... > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:04:29 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Junkin' the junkers Message-ID: <004b01c27c16$4a7806e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> With a Junkers? You can damage the plaster D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > Or throw the finished kit against the wall.. ;-) > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:15:04 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: what is this? Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30238E648@TUFAO> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727546227 Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:31:50 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: what is this? Message-ID: <005501c27c1a$1df84900$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Subject: [WWI] what is this? The same as this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727546350 :-) BTW, cool plane, isn't it? G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:33:36 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Junkin' the junkers Message-ID: <004301c27c1a$5bac07f0$1b4e2dcb@future> Maybe a real bid hammer would do the trick then... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Junkin' the junkers > With a Junkers? > You can damage the plaster > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > > > > Or throw the finished kit against the wall.. ;-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:50:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: trench diorama Message-ID: <008e01c27c1c$a91eed20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Someone has attempted to do this? http://www.invalides.org/invalidesgb/sommairegb/collectionsgb/guerresmondial esgb/gm1gb/salle/img/obj/PH11.JPG Watch the wrap!! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:06:21 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: trench diorama Message-ID: <007701c27c1e$ef2f1ae0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Someone has attempted to do this? No, but I've seen the original in Paris. BTW, I'm researching now very interesting event: in January 1915 in Galizien Austrians used for the first time heavy artillery bombardment coordinated by the radio-equipped airplane. To bombard captured by Russians town of Tarnow, they organized a system of the heavy (305 and 420mm) guns and the small airfield and auxilliary balloon position near the village of Biadoliny. Bombardment was extremely effective! In the mid '90s Polish environment architect from Krakow, Dr Krzysztof Wielgus (historical fortifications specialist) made a deep historical and archeological study of that events and the positions. Imagine this diorama: heavy guns, Albies B and Lohners, and Drachen balloon! Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:15:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re: trench diorama Message-ID: <00bc01c27c20$45be6ae0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Imagine this diorama: heavy guns, Albies B and Lohners, and Drachen balloon! Such a big scene. You may need a whole room to portray that!!!!! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:20:14 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: re: trench diorama Message-ID: <009701c27c20$df648620$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > > Imagine this diorama: heavy guns, Albies B and Lohners, and Drachen > balloon! > > Such a big scene. You may need a whole room to portray that!!!!! > D. Or a garden. G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:39:27 -0400 From: jeff_roby To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SE5 gun configuration question Message-ID: Hello All, Got to wondering in the middle of the night: how come the SE5 was designed with one Vickers and one Lewis? Everything I've read about the Lewis gun was that it was a real pain in the ass except for being able to be fired upward. Reloading in flight was supposedly quite perilous. So why didn't Royal Aircraft arm it with twin Vickers, like the Camel and Spad XIII, instead? The Germans had certainly shown that twin .30s worked well. Did it have something to do with the fuel tank (and the SE5's long cruising time)? I need my sleep! Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:29:31 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Odp: re: trench diorama Message-ID: <00d201c27c22$2b627400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Imagine the rush to move all the models inside every time it gets rainy! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > Or a garden. > G. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:31:19 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: SE5 gun configuration question Message-ID: <00a301c27c22$6bc99320$0200a8c0@grzesiek> I think it was synchronization-related thing. In the case of the synchronization failure, you still had Lewis working. G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:42:23 +0100 From: Dave F To: Subject: re: SE5 gun configuration question Message-ID: <1035549743.3db93c2fc0bac@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Grzegorz Mazurowski : > I think it was synchronization-related thing. > In the case of the synchronization failure, you still had Lewis working. > G. > > If the synchro failed, the last thing you would be worried about would be another gun!! Armed Gliders not being too common. The Vickers were prone to jamming - concerns were made about the windscreen interfering with jam clearance. Also, the Lewis on a foster mount was the favoured weapon of Albert Ball, who tested the early SE5. The original plan was for a Lewis firing through the prop shaft Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:47:11 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Odp: re: trench diorama Message-ID: <00c601c27c24$a3131980$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Imagine the rush to move all the models inside every time it gets rainy! > D. Hehehehehe! I don't paint my kits with the watercolours! G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:06:09 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: <017801c27c27$90712c60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Brento! > Mandatory OT Content: Any more rumors about the Gavia 1/48 fibreglass > Staaken R.VI? I would hate to purchase Eric's, when it finally comes out, > only to have another one show up on the market. Why you will hate to buy Eric's kit? Sure enough it will be a jewel, even if Eduard releases one! D. Sure that this idea is giving Eric a headache! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:17:54 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: <02Oct25.141852bst.118100@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> Haven't been able to pay much attention to the list/threads - too much work getting in the way. A Gavia 1/48 Staaken - this is a joke, huh?! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] Sent: 25 October 2002 14:08 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Brento! > Mandatory OT Content: Any more rumors about the Gavia 1/48 fibreglass > Staaken R.VI? I would hate to purchase Eric's, when it finally comes out, > only to have another one show up on the market. Why you will hate to buy Eric's kit? Sure enough it will be a jewel, even if Eduard releases one! D. Sure that this idea is giving Eric a headache! :-) This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:40:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: SE5 gun configuration question Message-ID: Jeff: > Hello All, > > Got to wondering in the middle of the night: how come the > SE5 was designed > with one Vickers and one Lewis? Everything I've read about > the Lewis gun > was that it was a real pain in the ass except for being able > to be fired > upward. Reloading in flight was supposedly quite perilous. I don't agree about the Lewis, I believe it was a very good gun, better than the Vickers, except for one thing, the ammumition drums. I think it had a higher rate of fire than the Vickers, thats one of the reasons it was retained when possible. /Neil (what I say may be nonsense as usual) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:39:55 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30238E730@TUFAO> There's a new albi on modelingmadness http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/wentzelalb532.htm Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:39:56 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lone Star announcement Message-ID: <200210251339.g9PDduN04348@king1.kingsnake.com> Just saw this on Hyperscale: "This notice is to inform you that in the next few weeks Lone Star Models will shut down. There will be several ads running in FSM and those items will be for sale as advertised. Please to not try to access the web site as it will no longer be up and running and besides the items would not be pictured there anyway. I will have the F-15 Reporter out as planned on a limited basis as well as the F2G and a few other things that were almost finished. The Email address and fax number will remain operational." For those who want LSM items, better buy them fast! Such a shame, actually, but what can you do. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:54:36 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: <001701c27c2e$0e647680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Superb wood finish and cockpit... but I don't like the rigging. What a pity! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? > There's a new albi on modelingmadness > > http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/w1/wentzelalb532.htm > > > > Pedro > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:58:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Lone Star announcement Message-ID: <001f01c27c2e$a7c5e7a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt announced > For those who want LSM items, better buy them fast! Such a shame, > actually, but what can you do. A true shame indeed. Would anyone remind us the OT items of that brand? D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:58:53 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: Agree/Neil C. > Superb wood finish and cockpit... but I don't like the > rigging. What a pity! > D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:52:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: Alien abduction? terrorist kidnapping? On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Lance Krieg wrote: > "I would get some more confirmation before speculating." > > Good advice. I'm trying to do that, and I haven't speculated at all. > But Todd IS missing, along with my investment. I > > I HAVE met Todd, and as a fellow Iowan I know that no one in the > Hawkeye state has ever been dishonest - well, maybe the Earp brothers. > And Bittner, of course, but he is really from Ohio, and in all events is > now infesting Nebraska. > > Lance > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:11:03 -0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: what is this? Message-ID: <002301c27cae$16193660$0301a8c0@com1> Pedro, Grzegorz, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727546227 > is the Prototype Russian Baltic Wagon Fabric (RBVZ) S XIX fighter or attack aircraft - I think the sources vary on the mission statement.. One of the early Sikorsky designs, 2 push/pull Sunbeams, pilot in one nacelle, forward firing gunner in the second. More details in the FMP IRAS book, Gunston磗 "Osprey Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft" and most probably also the Finne book on Sikorsky - I checked only in the Gunston book to confirm the number, but am quite sure about the two others as well. There was also something on it in an older C&C or OtF... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:17:55 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: what is this? Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30238E7A7@TUFAO> Volker, Many thanks. I'll check the IRAS book later this evening. Now this would make a neat model, wouldn't it? Pedro > > Pedro, Grzegorz, > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727546227 > > > > > is the Prototype Russian Baltic Wagon Fabric (RBVZ) S XIX > fighter or attack > aircraft - > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4729 **********************