WWI Digest 4726 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Special Hobby kits by Carlos Valdes 2) Cross & Cockade 4 Sale by BStett3770@aol.com 3) Re: seeking advice on Proctor Enterprises by "Ken Acosta" 4) =?gb2312?q?=C8=AB=CA=D0=D7=EE=B1=E3=D2=CB=B5=C4=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8100=D4=AA_=C7=EB=B5=E726138636?= by yang 5) Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII by Peter Fedders 6) NEW STOCK PICK: PRCT - LAST PICK UP 233%, NNCO.................................................................................................................................................................. yui by "WALL STREET BULLETIN..47027" 7) Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: New member by "Dave Burke" 9) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Brent Theobald" 10) Re: OT engine outputs and modern comparisons by "Brent Theobald" 11) RE: Request info by Ray 12) Re: Armament on US Acquired Fokker DV/DVIII by Michael Fletcher 13) RE: Request info by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Michael Kendix" 15) For Gianmaria Corona by "Alberto Casirati" 16) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Brent Theobald" 17) Re: Special Hobby kits by Ray 18) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Brent Theobald" 19) Re: Special Hobby kits by Ray 20) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Brent Theobald" 21) Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits by Steven Perry 22) Re: Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII by Larry Marshall 24) Re: Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits by "Brent Theobald" 25) RE Cross & Cockades 4 Sale by BStett3770@aol.com 26) Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Armament on US Acquired Fokker DV/DVIII by "Lee M." 29) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Mike Muth" 30) Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII by "Lee M." 31) Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? by Phil Bytheway 32) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Matt Bittner" 33) Re: Special Hobby kits by "Shane Weier" 34) Re: New member by Gianmaria Corona ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:05:14 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20021023110436.01ac9a00@conted.swann.gatech.edu> --=====================_181792944==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Just got this from Karaya re: upcoming SH kits: .SPECIAL HOBBY 1/48 - SPAD VII in RFC/US markings and new Sopwith Tabloid - WW1 British scout. Next release: Sopwith Schneider. --=====================_181792944==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Just got this from Karaya re: upcoming SH kits:

.SPECIAL HOBBY 1/48 - SPAD VII in RFC/US markings and new Sopwith Tabloid - WW1 British scout. Next release: Sopwith Schneider.
  --=====================_181792944==.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:32:32 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Cross & Cockade 4 Sale Message-ID: <59.237cec9a.2ae81b10@aol.com> Hi Gang Have a customer with a set of Cross & Cockade USA for sale. Vol 1 to Vol 19 complete - in fair to good shape Asking $350.00 for the set - buyer pays post Let me know if anyone's interested and I can arrange the sale. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby Rosemont Hobby 4317 Howertown Rd. Northampton, Pa. 18067 Fax / Phone - 610 502 1137 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:06:55 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: Re: seeking advice on Proctor Enterprises Message-ID: Emerging briefly from deep-lurk to interject that the Proctor website shows the VK Camel, Dr.I, Strutter, and Ni.17 as available. http://www.proctor-enterprises.com/main/index.html KA " I'm assuming that you have access to a second hand kit as they aren't available any longer." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:24:55 +0800 From: yang To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: =?gb2312?q?=C8=AB=CA=D0=D7=EE=B1=E3=D2=CB=B5=C4=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8100=D4=AA_=C7=EB=B5=E726138636?= Message-ID: <3DB6738A0001E3EA@mta03.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) This is a multi-part message in MIME format --fdd2cd84-6d59-11d3-a98a-5254aba02fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C8=AB=CA=D0=D7=EE=B1=E3=D2=CB=B5=C4=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8100=D4=AA =C7=EB=B5=E7= 26138636 SONY100=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8500=D4=AA=CB=CD400=BB=B0=B7=D1 =D5=C6=D6=D0=B1=A6=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8550=D4=AA=BA=AC300=BB=B0=B7=D1 =C8=FD=D0=C78500=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8900=D4=AA=BA=AC400=BB=B0=B7=D1 =CF=D6=B4=FA1110=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8780=D4=AA=BA=AC400=BB=B0=B7=D1 =CF=D6=B4=FA1100=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8600=D4=AA=BA=AC300=BB=B0=B7=D1 =C8=FD=D0=C73500=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8600=CB=CD300=BB=B0=B7=D1 =B4=F8=BB=FA=C8=EB=CC=A8=BD=BB200=D4=AA=CB=CD300=BB=B0=B7=D1 --fdd2cd84-6d59-11d3-a98a-5254aba02fb7-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII Message-ID: The CG is a point in 3 dimensions. You don't want the CG above your head! It was a problem with Austrian and Italian flying boats with their high engines. For acrobatics it causes a lot of problems. peter On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Larry Marshall wrote: > > > I do not understand why there would be any difference in flight > > charteristics.. Since the guns were just above the fuel tank, and, all the > > ammo was near there as well. As it was used the C.G would remain the > > same.. Remove the guns and the same rules would apply. That is exactly why > > they were located where they were. > > While I agree completely, I'd like to add one little quibble. > > Gun placement was a compromise and their mass location relative to the CG > probably not that important. First, you typically want your guns to fire > forward (prime directive for gun placement). Second, the pilot needed to be > able to clear the breech. This second thing is the reason that those big gun > mechanisms stuck back into the cockpits and bonked so many pilots when they > crashed. You can see the flip-side of this with early Oeffag gun placements > as they were placed farther forward in Albatroses than the Germans were > placing their guns. The problem was that the pilots couldn't clear a jammed > weapon, requiring that they be moved rearward. > > -- > Cheers --- Larry > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:35:00 -0500 From: "WALL STREET BULLETIN..47027" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: NEW STOCK PICK: PRCT - LAST PICK UP 233%, NNCO.................................................................................................................................................................. yui Message-ID: <3DB6576E000296D4@mta01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)

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phfiorygnijsogwjieycqenoybomseu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:41:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII Message-ID: <01b301c27ab3$1540d420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> We should ask about this to Monsieur Fletcher Sr., as he used to fly a modern rendition of Macchi Flying boats. BTW, Is that wing ready? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fedders" > The CG is a point in 3 dimensions. You don't want the CG above your > head! It was a problem with Austrian and Italian flying boats with their > high engines. For acrobatics it causes a lot of problems. > > peter > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:18:46 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <002801c27ab8$3fed90a0$98ed79a5@s0024008072> Hi Gianmaria! Welcome to the monkey house! This List is proof that weirdness is truly international! > > > I'm 35 years old and I'm an aeronautics engineer. > I'm 35 and a graduate student - Ph.D in history - wish I could do enough math to have your job though!! >But, please be patient and understanding, my English is really > poor! > Seems like you speak it better than most people from Alabama!! DB Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:31:33 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: Howdy! >There are only three "valid" options. French, IRAS or Italian. ;-) Au contrair monfrair! I have some excellent decals from Americal/Gryphon for a captured SPAD VII. It has (I think) "Nicht schießen gut Leute!" painted on the top of the upper wing and across the bottom of the lower wing. Cool eh? The decals are in 1/48 scale too (God's Own). Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:36:36 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT engine outputs and modern comparisons Message-ID: Howdy! "As far as I know there where some car-engines used in aircrafts. If I'm not wrong the Vickers Vimy who made a flight in Australia some years ago was powerd by 2 BMW car-engines." Actually, when it made that historic flight it had a pair of Chevy 454 cubic inch engines. I was surprised to read that, but I can't argue that they would be reliable, cheap and with lots of torque (and *heavy*). The Vimy currently flies with BMW engines (blasphemy!). I figure they are more reliable, more expensive, dunno about power but perhaps lighter. Later! Brent (who has most of his modeling stuff packed up in preparation for moving.) _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:23:57 -0700 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Request info Message-ID: <200210231023.57763.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Hello Gianmaria! Flashback issued the Berg a while back which was a reworking of the original Hippo Resin model but in injected plastic with decals and PE ? Hippo also produced a Macchi M5. Therefore if you can find a Hippo model of the M5 you will to all intents and purposes have what Flashback will release. The Hippo model didnt have PE or decals though. I have both Hippo models and they are very nice. I'm saving them until I can no longer see to build in 1/72, the best scale ;) (I also have the Pegasus M5 which will be built much sooner I think) Not sure I helped, Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:53:59 -0400 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Armament on US Acquired Fokker DV/DVIII Message-ID: <3DB6E237.65C9FE4B@rogers.com> The section of the Vickers manual on clearing jams is very extensive - seems there was a lot more types of jam than modern weapons are susceptible to (I trained on the LMG and there was maybe 1/10 as many we had to train for). There was an entire section on how to deal just with rounds that had fired but hadn't been ejected properly - each had its own technique. The hammer was essential for clearing these. If it self-cleared it may have to do with heat buildup. The oil used has improved substantially, as has the accuracy to which the guns components are built, and the ammunition is much better than it once was. The more experienced pilots invariably hand selected their own ammunition to weed out some of the more obvious problem rounds and based on several bios this made for a huge reduction in jams. Mike Fl. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:54:24 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Request info Message-ID: <103539568401@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Er uhm. . anyone doing an M.5 and needing decals. . I will have some of those available shortly Bob PS Sorry Dave, not that one yet :-) ---------- >From: Ray > Hippo also produced a Macchi M5. Therefore if you can find a Hippo model of > the M5 you will to all intents and purposes have what Flashback will release. > The Hippo model didnt have PE or decals though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:13:56 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: >From: "Brent Theobald" >The decals are in 1/48 scale too (God's Own). Which "God" do you mean? 1/72nd is already known as "The Divine Scale". Michael _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:22:17 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: For Gianmaria Corona Message-ID: <006301c27ac1$1efeff60$6de422d4@s> Dear Gianmaria, may I have your correct e-mail address, please ? I sent my reply to gianmaria.corona@tiscalinet.it, but I received a failure notice, saying the user is unknown... TIA ! Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper - Aviation Section Bergamo Museum of History www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:32:01 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: Howdy! > >The decals are in 1/48 scale too (God's Own). >Which "God" do you mean? 1/72nd is already known as "The Divine Scale". Which God? The Big One, not some lesser deity. :-) Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:30:55 -0700 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <200210231130.55788.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Brent, I think Michael means the "all seeing all knowing one", not the diety who has to resort to braile ;) On Wednesday 23 October 2002 11:33, you wrote: > Howdy! > > > >The decals are in 1/48 scale too (God's Own). > > > >Which "God" do you mean? 1/72nd is already known as "The Divine Scale". > > Which God? The Big One, not some lesser deity. :-) > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:08:49 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: Hah! I'm have some more witty rejoinders for this thread, but I am going to show some uncharacteristic restraint before I offend someone! All I need is to get Salmon Rushdi'ed :-) Halberstadt Cl.IV or Brisfit? Which would you rather be in the back of? Sure the Brisfit has some great power, but think of the German styling! Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:16:42 -0700 From: Ray To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <200210231216.42861.Ray_Boorman@telus.net> Brent, I'd choose the Brisfit as long as Leefe Roboinson wasnt the pilot. On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:09, you wrote: > Halberstadt Cl.IV or Brisfit? Which would you rather be in the back of? > Sure the Brisfit has some great power, but think of the German styling! > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:51:56 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: >I'd choose the Brisfit as long as Leefe Roboinson wasnt the pilot. What if it was Errol Flynn? I'm sure he'd look dashing with his Zorro mask. Also, Errol would fly at 1 1/2 the speed the rest of us mortals travel. However, the biker in me still appreciates the flames painted along the side of the Halberstadt CL.II's. I forget which unit. Could this be the earliest example of a "flame job"? I can't think of any other machine earlier than this that had a flame motiff. Did any trains carry flame designs or were they decorated only with dirt and soot? This is a wandering thread is it not? aLter! BRent >Brent, I'd choose the Brisfit as long as Leefe Roboinson wasnt the pilot. > >On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:09, you wrote: > > > Halberstadt Cl.IV or Brisfit? Which would you rather be in the back of? > > Sure the Brisfit has some great power, but think of the German styling! > > > > Later! > > > > Brent _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:09:13 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <3DB701E9.3020907@tampabay.rr.com> > However, the biker in me still appreciates the flames painted along the side > of the Halberstadt CL.II's. I forget which unit. > > Could this be the earliest example of a "flame job"? I can't think of any > other machine earlier than this that had a flame motiff. Did any trains > carry flame designs or were they decorated only with dirt and soot? > > This is a wandering thread is it not? Its wandered somewhere interesting. The flame motif on a combat airplane is not exactly common, pilots being the supersticious creatures they are. Does anyone know the origins of the Halb that displays it. Was it an individual marking or a unit marking? Given the realities of the air war over the Western Front, this was either a very sick individual or a very daring gesture of bravado. I wonder which. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:15:41 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <103540416001@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> 'Tis the unit marking for Schlasta 26b Regards, Bob Pearson Preview my WW1 markings CD http://www.internetmodeler.com/cd-roms/RNP_CD/index.htm ---------- >From: Steven Perry > Does anyone know the origins of the Halb that displays it. Was it an > individual marking or a unit marking? Given the realities of the air war > over the Western Front, this was either a very sick individual or a very > daring gesture of bravado. I wonder which. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:13:32 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII Message-ID: <200210231613.32094.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:34 pm, you wrote: > The CG is a point in 3 dimensions. You don't want the CG above your > head! It was a problem with Austrian and Italian flying boats with their > high engines. For acrobatics it causes a lot of problems. I'm not too sure what this has to do with what we were talking about as gun removal would have been weight reduction almost exactly along the ideal location for weight BUT, you actually don't want the CG to be too much above the center of pressure. The example you cite expresses this point nicely. Where your head is irrelevant :-) -- Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:35 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flaming Halb was: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: Howdy! Yup! Bob has the answer. >'Tis the unit marking for Schlasta 26b If you dig thru some photos you will find many different flame designs. Some are the curved, flowing flames we are most accustomed to seeing while others in that group were very stylized and geometric. If only I had more time.... I could happily build the entire Schlasta. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:29:10 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE Cross & Cockades 4 Sale Message-ID: Hi Gang Thanks to all They are sold. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby Rosemont Hobby 4317 Howertown Road Northampton, Pa. 18067 Fax / Phone 610 502 1137 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:40:16 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: The estimable Mr. Hayes has been missing a looong time now. Anyone know of his whereabouts? Anyone beside myself still waiting on a group order to have been made last April? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:42:40 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT), Brent Theobald wrote: > Halberstadt Cl.IV or Brisfit? Which would you rather be in the back of? Sure > the Brisfit has some great power, but think of the German styling! Hanriot HD.3. Definitely "cooler" than both. And probably better than both, as well. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:01:45 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Armament on US Acquired Fokker DV/DVIII Message-ID: <006701c27ae8$299ab000$904d39cc@mesystem> There are several ways a Jam can spontaneously take care of itself. and the "Dud" round is one of the reasons. a A "dud" is usualy because of a malfunction of the cap or ignition system of the cartridge. I believe all will agree that when a MG is fired in anything approacuing a steady stream of bullets, it will get damn hot. A loaded cartridge in the chamber for any long period, (Like 1 second in a gun that shoots 600 a minute.) can ignite from the heat of the gun. It usually happens fairly quickly after cessation of firing and might not be as notable as one would think. Sometimes a minor kink in a belt can stop a gun. That is why my #2 gunner laid, alongside with the belt passing over his hands as it was being advanced automatically. He prevented belt kinks as it moved from the can. Unfortunately a pilot does not have such assistance. He also does not have 3-6000 rounds available in a Jeep trailer nearby. AS for the hammer,I never saw one like that, but there had been metal rods that ran to the gun which could be yanked on and rammed about to help. If there is no round in the gun it takes two pulls to get one in. If the gun is jammed it can be repeatedly pulled and may get a gun going again. An MG on the ground has a large handle on the right hand side, sticking straight out, going into the bolt. On a plane the handle was kind of curved upward in a shallow "S" shape and it gave more leverage to the puller. There had to be a puller, connection, for each gun, just as there had to be a connection to the trigger of each gun. Many planes had a combined trigger on top of the Stick in the form of a lever like handle that could be squeezed as you held on to the stick. More modern planes used a button on top with electrical connections. I saw one that was quite early in WW I and it had a rod across the frontal area of the cockpit and a center handle that could be pulled back, with one hand, as you flew with the other . I think the designer was looking forward to three handed pilots. Good thought about unarmed trainers... It is true.. Just the Ammo for a 30 caliber weighs about 20 pounds for 200 rounds. 600 for each gun and you are dealing with 120 pounds that can leave the plane while in flight. Not a great time for unbalancing your flying machine. Fuel tank near by doing much the same thing. Gotta keep it airborne and in balance helps. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:54:33 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: <00a801c27ae7$27d06cc0$4c49bacc@ptdprolog.net> Matt How about Belgian? Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:04 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Special Hobby kits > On 10-23-2002 07:07 am, D wrote: > > > Paint it French, please! ;-) > > There are only three "valid" options. French, IRAS or Italian. ;-) > > > Matt > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:10:09 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII Message-ID: <00ad01c27ae9$55d0a160$904d39cc@mesystem> That is why I specified that the guns were just aboe the fuel tank. The ammo is lower and comes up over the sides, of some fuel tanks, to the guns. The total is usually blow the pilots head at least a small distance. The CG is in three dimensions but it is still just a small single point which you have or don't have in an acceptable location. If it is way up in the upper wing area you have inherent problems no matter what you are trying to do. It is the primary reason drunks fall down. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fedders" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Armament of USA aquired Fokker D.V/D.VIII > The CG is a point in 3 dimensions. You don't want the CG above your > head! It was a problem with Austrian and Italian flying boats with their > high engines. For acrobatics it causes a lot of problems. > > peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:02:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Bytheway To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Todd Hayes - wherefore art thou? Message-ID: <20021024000231.43736.qmail@web40705.mail.yahoo.com> I am also waiting. As a matter of fact, Todd has $378 of mine (since April) and I'm beginning to get quite concerned... especially since work is slowing down now! Phil Bytheway --- Lance Krieg wrote: > The estimable Mr. Hayes has been missing a looong time now. Anyone know > of his whereabouts? > > Anyone beside myself still waiting on a group order to have been made > last April? > > Lance __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:34:51 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:55:38 -0400 (EDT), Mike Muth wrote: > How about Belgian? Definitely better than British! ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:33:43 +1000 From: "Shane Weier" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Special Hobby kits Message-ID: Matt is.... > > Halberstadt Cl.IV or Brisfit? (snip) > >Hanriot HD.3. Definitely "cooler" than both. And probably >better than both, as well. ;-) ...sliding back into the realms of fantasy. The right place for the malicious monkey I'd say :-) Shane (taking a break from moving house :-( ) _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:32:32 +0200 From: Gianmaria Corona To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021024093025.00a0dde0@pop.tiscalinet.it> > > >But, please be patient and understanding, my English is really > > poor! > > >Seems like you speak it better than most people from Alabama!! > > DB > > Auburn, Alabama OK Dave, you are too kind :-) Which is the fee and were can I send you my credit card numbers? ;-) Bye Gianmaria Corona ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4726 **********************