WWI Digest 4720 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: roden gotha by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 2) Re: Airplane Factories - was: Snowing, flat screens a by Crawford Neil 3) Re: Some OT, mostly ot model pics by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: Some OT, mostly ot model pics by Crawford Neil 5) RE: roden gotha by "Pedro N. Soares" 6) Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( by "Diego Fernetti" 7) RE: roden gotha by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 8) Re: Roden Strutter Review by "Michael Kendix" 9) Re: roden gotha by "Michael Kendix" 10) RE: roden gotha by "Pedro N. Soares" 11) Re: roden gotha by "Pedro N. Soares" 12) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her by Crawford Neil 13) Re: Eduard new releases by Crawford Neil 14) RE: roden gotha by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 15) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 16) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So by Crawford Neil 17) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So by "Diego Fernetti" 18) Aldiss sights wasRE: RE: This is the slowest I have ever se by Crawford Neil 19) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 20) forwarded query: WWI Poster Art & Music by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( by tbittners@sprintmail.com 22) RE: forwarded query: WWI Poster Art & Music by "Pedro N. Soares" 23) Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( by "Diego Fernetti" 24) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her by Steven Perry 25) RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So by Crawford Neil 26) Albatros wing-camouflage help! by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 27) Re: Aviatik 30.24 Triplane by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 28) Re: Albatros wing-camouflage help! by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 29) Re: Eduard new releases by HawkerFury@t-online.de (HawkerFury) 30) image revesion by Mark Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:01:41 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden gotha Message-ID: <006301c278f1$3c8efb10$1b4e2dcb@future> Which will mean in a few days time he will have photos of the build for us to see.. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > Wow conga-rats! > /Neil C > > > > > Hi > > > > Just a word of advice to anyone contemplating this beast: > > > > The small struts that fit above the engine nacelles are the > > most brittle > > things that I've come across in all my modeling years: they > > snap in 2 just > > by looking at them. The interplane struts are afflicted by > > the same problem > > but I managed to break only 3 :-). > > > > But my wing is on and rigging is 70% done. > > > > Pedro > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:03:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Airplane Factories - was: Snowing, flat screens a Message-ID: Mike: > Saab was formed from the post-war amalgamation of several companies > including Thulin. > Thanks Mike for the run through of present day aerospace companies. I'm not sure if I'm sure enough of this to disagree, but if SAAB are OT then they would be older than Volvo (1927) and we can't have that! As I understand SAAB originated in ASJA and Svenska Aero which was the company responsible for license-building Heinkels in Sweden. They became SAAB during the late 30's. Up till recently SAAB cars had a front profile of the SAAB B18 (late 40's bomber) as their emblem. I'm unsure, but I think the connection to Thulin is very tenuous. /Neil C. PS. The fastest SAAB's have Volvo engines! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:18:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Some OT, mostly ot model pics Message-ID: <029701c278f3$a7c84060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Dave! > Eduardo Mitchell? IIRC, he connects you, I and Neil being an > Argentine-Scot living in Sweden !! The three of us in one person? Must be a fun guy to hang with. Just hope he hasn't any of my annoying habits! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:21:47 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Some OT, mostly ot model pics Message-ID: > > The three of us in one person? Must be a fun guy to hang with. > Just hope he hasn't any of my annoying habits! > D. > Then he should build an Argie Spad with RAF roundels! /Neil C: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:17:55 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: roden gotha Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30231ED79@TUFAO> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2002 12:03 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > > > Which will mean in a few days time he will have photos of the > build for us > to see.. ;-) > > Cheers > > Ross > Only if you haven't let you subscription to a famous modeling magazine lapse.... ;-) P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:29:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( Message-ID: <02f501c278f6$7e56c960$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael wrote: > Toko Nieuport 11? I did - the build's on the web site. I also used them for > the Nieuport 16. They're a little inaccurate but if you want accuracy, get > the Rosemont replacement, however, those are resin. I have the Rosemont replacements. They are very delicate and must be recommended most warmly. IIRC the master for these parts is made by our own nieuportphile Monsieur Bittner (hey what about making a replacement cowl for the bebe as well Matt?) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:49:12 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden gotha Message-ID: <008301c278f7$dffb7890$1b4e2dcb@future> Oh.. I don't subscribe to any magazines... So looks like I will miss it then. :-( Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > > Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2002 12:03 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > > > > > > Which will mean in a few days time he will have photos of the > > build for us > > to see.. ;-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > > Only if you haven't let you subscription to a famous modeling magazine > lapse.... ;-) > > P. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:22:19 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Strutter Review Message-ID: >From: "Shane Weier" >Not much help though - I was hoping o see a build review. Hurry up one >of >you guys ! As someone who just attempted and failed to attach a fairly large and complex 5-part canopy that is a part of the structure of the (off topic) model, my sympathies are with the modeller of this transparent Strutter. I cannot really understand the reason behind making the entire thing out of clear plastic, which is much more brittle and difficult to take off the sprue. Nor is it really justified by trying to do the "window" that sometimes appears on the wing because the wing is fairly thick, and I think the window should be relatively thin. No doubt numerous folks will make a nice job of this kit but it could have been a lot easier. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:27:24 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: roden gotha Message-ID: >From: "Pedro N. Soares" >Just a word of advice to anyone contemplating this beast: > >The small struts that fit above the engine nacelles are the most >brittle >things that I've come across in all my modeling years: they >snap in 2 just >by looking at them. It states quite clearly in the instructions "not" to look at them head-on. Did you try looking at them sideways? My G.V langhuishes somewhat more due to burn-out than breakages. Michae _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:35:09 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: roden gotha Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30231EE40@TUFAO> Oh, Ross, I don't think you'll miss this one... take my word for it :-) P. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2002 12:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > > > Oh.. I don't subscribe to any magazines... So looks like I > will miss it > then. :-( > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:38:05 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: roden gotha Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30231EE42@TUFAO> > > It states quite clearly in the instructions "not" to look at > them head-on. Uhhh, maybe my new glasses have some hidden powers ..... > Did you try looking at them sideways? You wouldn't imagine the ways I looked at them, to get them to fit in place... ;-) Glad I had a few sticks of contrail strut stock lying around... P. > > My G.V langhuishes somewhat more due to burn-out than breakages. > > Michae > > _________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:45:51 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her Message-ID: It must have been pretty good, seeing as they fitted them to so many different types. And continued doing so right up to WW2, when the reflector sights took over. /Neil C. > How effective was the Aldis site ? I am doing some research > into Brit Spad > VIIs that served in the Mid East. I see that 30 Sqd ad some > fitted to their > Spads. > > Cheers > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:04:51 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: Must agree with this. a Junkers is the icing on the cake, but the Sopwiths would be the cake itself! Thanks Shane for explaining why. /Neil (still waiting for them to even announce a Spad kit) Ray: > Still waiting for > > > >that Camel... > Whilst I can't wait for the Junkers you have to wonder why > Eduard are so slow > with the Camel. it would seem to me it would sell like great > guns. They can > get more than one type from the mold too. In fact I can think > of 4 types they > could release. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:16:15 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: roden gotha Message-ID: <00ab01c27904$09220610$1b4e2dcb@future> I have been told off list that I will see it for sure. I thanked this person for wiping the egg off my face when I was told which magazine this will be on.. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:37 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > Oh, Ross, I don't think you'll miss this one... take my word for it :-) > > P. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ross & Wendy Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] > > Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2002 12:51 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] RE: roden gotha > > > > > > Oh.. I don't subscribe to any magazines... So looks like I > > will miss it > > then. :-( > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:17:42 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her Message-ID: <00b301c27904$3c7c14b0$1b4e2dcb@future> Yeah but I just can't see how they could site through them as a planed roared by at speed or as they twisted and turned in combat trying to get a bead on the other guy while peering down the tube. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:48 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her > > It must have been pretty good, seeing as they fitted them to > so many different types. And continued doing so right up to > WW2, when the reflector sights took over. > /Neil C. > > > > How effective was the Aldis site ? I am doing some research > > into Brit Spad > > VIIs that served in the Mid East. I see that 30 Sqd ad some > > fitted to their > > Spads. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:29:38 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So Message-ID: We were talking about this some months ago, I think Shane or southern Neil explained how it worked. IIRC you looked along the tube, not through it, when the tube was on the target, then it went dark (presumably because it was full of a large image of the target). When it went dark it was time to pull the trigger. Please correct me if I'm wrong. /Northern Neil > Yeah but I just can't see how they could site through them as a planed > roared by at speed or as they twisted and turned in combat > trying to get a > bead on the other guy while peering down the tube. > > Cheers > > Ross > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:50:31 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So Message-ID: <002101c27908$d34970a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> IIRC that was the way it was explained. Images of this sight are on the Dr.1 restoration at the Memorial Flight Website D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:30 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So > We were talking about this some months ago, I think Shane or > southern Neil explained how it worked. IIRC you looked > along the tube, not through it, when the tube was on the target, > then it went dark (presumably because it was full of a large > image of the target). When it went dark it was time to pull the > trigger. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > /Northern Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:56:01 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Aldiss sights wasRE: RE: This is the slowest I have ever se Message-ID: I guess that was what Biggles meant when he said "the enemy aircraft filled my sights" /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:56:36 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So Message-ID: <00cc01c27909$abd6e8d0$1b4e2dcb@future> I will have to go have a look at this .. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So > IIRC that was the way it was explained. > Images of this sight are on the Dr.1 restoration at the Memorial Flight > Website > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Crawford Neil" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:30 AM > Subject: [WWI] RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So > > > > We were talking about this some months ago, I think Shane or > > southern Neil explained how it worked. IIRC you looked > > along the tube, not through it, when the tube was on the target, > > then it went dark (presumably because it was full of a large > > image of the target). When it went dark it was time to pull the > > trigger. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > /Northern Neil > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:09:02 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Cc: "Ely Tandeter" Subject: forwarded query: WWI Poster Art & Music Message-ID: <008701c2790b$68ec1a20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> A friend of mine forwarded me this question. If someone on the list can help, please write to the address below. TIA! D. > From: carl_barna@co.blm.gov > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:51:24 -0500 > > Greetings -- > I am trying to research WW I poster art from the point of view of image > interpretation and meaning, and, to a lesser extent, the poster artists. So > far all I have been able to find are picture books that show the poster, > its size, and sometimes who the artist was. > Does anyone on this list know of any monographs or journal articles that an > provide more of a contextual analysis? > I have the same question as regards the popular music of the war. > > Thanks! > Carl Barna > Denver, CO ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:58:57 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( Message-ID: <200210211358.g9LDwv444216@king1.kingsnake.com> On 10-21-2002 06:39 am, D wrote: > I have the Rosemont replacements. They are very delicate and must be > recommended most warmly. IIRC the master for these parts is made by our own > nieuportphile Monsieur Bittner (hey what about making a replacement cowl for > the bebe as well Matt?) Barry has had my masters now almost two years. The last I heard he was fixing the upper wing because he broke it. Thanks for the warm words. I sent him for the Nie.11/16: Replacement upper wing Replacement lower wing Replacement cowl Replacement LePrieur rockets New sight that was developed for the LePrieur I just wish he would release something! You could get away without the upper wing, but I consider everything else a "necessity". He has had and has released the replacement landing gear struts, interplane struts and Cone de Penetration. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:15:01 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: forwarded query: WWI Poster Art & Music Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B30231EF89@TUFAO> Diego, I'm speaking from memory (not always a good thing...) but I think the site www.worldwar1.com had some info on posters and music HTH Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: segunda-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2002 15:09 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] forwarded query: WWI Poster Art & Music > > > A friend of mine forwarded me this question. If someone on > the list can > help, please write to the address below. > TIA! > D. > > > From: carl_barna@co.blm.gov > > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:51:24 -0500 > > > > Greetings -- > > I am trying to research WW I poster art from the point of > view of image > > interpretation and meaning, and, to a lesser extent, the > poster artists. > So > > far all I have been able to find are picture books that > show the poster, > > its size, and sometimes who the artist was. > > Does anyone on this list know of any monographs or journal > articles that > an > > provide more of a contextual analysis? > > I have the same question as regards the popular music of the war. > > > > Thanks! > > Carl Barna > > Denver, CO > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:21:34 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Nieuports dont fly very well ;( Message-ID: <00fc01c2790d$291b83c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt! > Replacement upper wing > Replacement lower wing I expected these! > Replacement cowl > Replacement LePrieur rockets > New sight that was developed for the LePrieur Ah! these are new for me. Well done! D. Just wondering if the "cone de penetration" was... Nahh, I guess not! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:42:45 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So her Message-ID: <3DB41265.5010508@tampabay.rr.com> Ross & Wendy Moorhouse wrote: > Yeah but I just can't see how they could site through them as a planed > roared by at speed or as they twisted and turned in combat trying to get a > bead on the other guy while peering down the tube. Probably not, but the preferred form of attack was to come up unawares and open up at nearly point blank range. Careful sighting on the occupants paid huge dividends in this case. If successful, a dogfight was avoided...at least with the machine sighted in on. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:02:55 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: This is the slowest I have ever seen the list .. So Message-ID: That was the way Mannock (and most of them fought) I believe. Some, Fonck in particular, used an Aldiss and attacked from longer ranges, the advantage was that it was safer, and allowed attacks before the adversary expected it, and from a direction that was regarded as "impossible". /Neil C. > > Probably not, but the preferred form of attack was to come > up unawares > and open up at nearly point blank range. Careful sighting on the > occupants paid huge dividends in this case. If successful, a dogfight > was avoided...at least with the machine sighted in on. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:11:27 +0200 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Albatros wing-camouflage help! Message-ID: <183eDH-0BIvfXC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Hi listmembers, I have just finished the BM Camel (nice kit but nevertheless I did some mistakes) and now I think about an Albatros D.II or D.III as my next project. I have studied the DFs and many of the beautiful kits of our group and now I'm a little bit confused about the wing-camouflage of this types. The DFs only mentioned the 2-color camo (green/redbrown or green/lilac). But what's about the 3-color camo? I never find any hind in my literature about the 3-color camo. Is this a relatively new knowledge? What is the history about the 3-color camo? Where some planes painted in 2-color and some painted in 3-clor camo at the same time? What is about the D.V/D.Va? 2-color, 3-color or both possibilities? Thanks for help! Greetings Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:09:34 +0200 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aviatik 30.24 Triplane Message-ID: <183eBS-0BIvfEC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Hi Dennis, take a look at http://air.wz.cz/30-aviatik/30.htm Scroll down to the 30.24 series there are 2 photos. Maybe they will be helpful. Greetings Andreas Dennis Ugulano schrieb: > Anyone, > > Can someone direct me to a photo or two of the Aviatik 30.24 > Triplane? The prop has me totally confused. Any help will be greatly > appreciated. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 08/10/2002 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:20:33 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Albatros wing-camouflage help! Message-ID: <1035213633.3db41b417944a@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Rita : > I have just finished the BM Camel (nice kit but nevertheless I did some > mistakes) and now I think about an Albatros D.II or D.III as my next > project. > > I have studied the DFs and many of the beautiful kits of our group and > now I'm a > little bit confused about the wing-camouflage of this types. The DFs > only > mentioned the 2-color camo (green/redbrown or green/lilac). But what's > about the > 3-color camo? I never find any hind in my literature about the 3-color > camo. > > Is this a relatively new knowledge? What is the history about the > 3-color camo? > > Where some planes painted in 2-color and some painted in 3-clor camo at > the > same time? > > What is about the D.V/D.Va? 2-color, 3-color or both possibilities? > Hi Andreas, I was confused by this as well - the history seems to be that Dan-san Abbot (re) discovered the fact that there was a three colour camouflage scheme applied to the Albatros family - at least one RFC capture reports mentions this. The Datafiles were of course published before this information became widely known, hence it's only mention of '2-colour' schemes. Later Windsock publications (e'g' The Flying Circus book) mentions the three colour scheme. What no-one has answered (to me!) yet is when violet replaced brown, did it do so in a wo or three colour scheme !! Sorry if this isn't too expansive - I'm at work. Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:10:41 +0200 From: HawkerFury@t-online.de (HawkerFury) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <183ZWD-1oBxA0C@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Shane Weier schrieb: > Ray > > >Whilst I can't wait for the Junkers you have to wonder why Eduard are >so > >slow with the Camel > > Answer - because they got part way through producing the moulds using what > they thought were the best available drawings, then discovered that they > weren't real accurate. > > The project was shelved and Eduard commissioned new drawings from photos and > measurements of surviving Camels, the whole business costing them time and > money and aggro from the impatient, but getting us an accurate Camel. > > Have seen this explanation posted by Eduard in two different forums, I > assume if they were active here we'd have seen it too This is an email sent to me nearly a year ago when asking on the status of the Camel and SE5a (1/48th scale): "Due to using incorrect research materials these two kits have been delayed untill late 2002 or early 2003. We have also been upgrading our computers and programs which has also delayed us but the end product will be significantly better. Colin Adair Eduard" It's not even announced for early 2003, so I guess we'll just have to wait. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: image revesion Message-ID: <20021021163229.37064.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> I corrected the Dogfight image and Allan posted it this morning. Now the sun is in the same place for everybody. http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Miller/render/Albatros/dogfight1.jpg Biggest surprise is how little difference it makes. You would think such a huge mistake would be more noticable. oh well ... I feel better anyways ;-) Mark __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4720 **********************