WWI Digest 4704

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) mephisto
	by "Christopher Anderson" <canderson@buckeyeweb.com>
  2) ot assistance - Piper L-21
	by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
  3) Re: mephisto
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
  4) Re: A7V Mephisto - got the book!
	by "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
  5) RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
	by "ibs4421" <ibs4421@onlineky.com>
  6) Re: A7V Mephisto - got the book!
	by Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
  7) Re: Stockpiling Heat Insoles
	by "ibs4421" <ibs4421@onlineky.com>
  8) Re: mephisto
	by Daniel Munoz <dm666@sympatico.ca>
  9) Re: Ardpol kits
	by Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz
 10) RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
	by "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
 11) RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 12) 您好!
	by 4testsoft4@email.com
 13) Propellers - Photographic tone values
	by Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>
 14) =?gb2312?q?=C3=E2=B7=D1=B9=A9=C7=F3=D0=C5=CF=A2=B6=E0=D5=BE=C1=AC=B7=A2=CF=B5=CD=B3?=
	by v80 <2000@126321.net>
 15) 虚拟主机130元/300M空间，主机托管5800/年/台　　先试用　后付款 Time:17:14:05
	by wwi@zg169.net
 16) Re: new here
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 17) Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
	by Larry Marshall <larrym@sympatico.ca>
 18) Re: new here
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 19) Re: Stitched seam advice needed on the AEG Front
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 20) Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
	by Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>
 21) Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 22) List lost internet connectivity
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 23) whoops
	by Mark Miller <mwmiller06810@yahoo.com>
 24) RE: Propellers - Photographic tone values
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 25) RE: whoops
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 26) Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
	by xtv16@dial.pipex.com
 27) Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
	by xtv16@dial.pipex.com
 28) Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
	by xtv16@dial.pipex.com
 29) Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
	by Dave Fleming <xtv16@dial.pipex.com>
 30) Modeling Time
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@neb.rr.com>

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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:55:57 -0400
From: "Christopher Anderson" <canderson@buckeyeweb.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: mephisto
Message-ID: <005901c273e5$a1ec05e0$9a22453f@canderson>

Hi Everyone,

How can I obtain the Mephisto book; is there material in this book that is
unavailable elsewhere? This is a possible Xmas gift...

Thanks,

Chris



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 01:19:30 +0200 (CEST)
From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: ot assistance - Piper L-21
Message-ID: <20021014231930.9F8FD34575@login-3.eunet.no>

Hei,

Sorry about being ot, but I hope there are list members who can help:

I have tried to find photos/drawings/information on US Army Piper L-21 Cub,
but with little success so far - only a few mediocre photos.
The Piper L-21 was an L-18 with a new engine and was used as a trainer,
hack and AOPS aircraft by the US armed forces in the early fifties.  

The info is needed for a planned new version of Broplans Piper Cub kit,
if there is someone who know about such an aircraft, please contact me off-list.

 
 
         Eders
       Knut Erik
    


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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:24:47 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: mephisto
Message-ID: <F180BPGrAuohteCtGob0000ca81@hotmail.com>

Chris,


>How can I obtain the Mephisto book;

The book is A$15.50 from the Queensland Museum shop as of this morning.

Postage for the one I sent to Daniel was A$8 or thereabouts.

>is there material in this book that is
>unavailable elsewhere? This is a possible Xmas gift...

I don't know what else is available, but it's pretty good IMO. I bought it 
for the large set of foldout plans alone, but also because in the days when 
the Queensland museum was up on Gregory Terrace and Mephisto sat outdoors 
and accesible to kids, I and my siblings spent happy hours climbing on it 
and pretending to be fearless soldiers.

I'm a bit busy at the moment - about to move house again for the second time 
in 5 months -but we may be able to arange something

Shane



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:03:18 +1000
From: "Shane Weier" <bristolf2b@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: A7V Mephisto - got the book!
Message-ID: <F64aeFDX3K4TVekHqs100007603@hotmail.com>

Hans says:

>I have got the Mephisto book at last. I am doing the Emhat A7V at the
>moment, but still gathering infos. My brother found on the Queensland 
>Museum
>page that the 1989 publication on Mephisto is still available. See:
>http://www.qmuseum.qld.gov.au/organisation/publications/culture/mephisto.asp

It certainly is. I sent a copy to Daniel Munoz a couple of months ago now.

>There is no price noted on the page, but it's aroun 13 Aus$ and it's worth
>every penny

I don't recall the exact price, but I think it was more than that (though 
not much)

I'm willing to go check if anyone is still interested.

Shane


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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:06:14 -0500
From: "ibs4421" <ibs4421@onlineky.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
Message-ID: <003e01c273f7$d34ab480$98e51442@dwfjv01>


Works just as fine and
> saves me from cleaning the brush. (yes, yes, I hate cleaning....)

What do you use to clean your brush after using this product?

Warren


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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:06:28 +1000
From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: A7V Mephisto - got the book!
Message-ID: <3DAB8634.C4EFE168@tac.com.au>

Shane Weier wrote:
> 
> Hans says:
> 
> >I have got the Mephisto book at last. I am doing the Emhat A7V at the
> >moment, but still gathering infos. My brother found on the Queensland
> >Museum
> >page that the 1989 publication on Mephisto is still available. See:
> >http://www.qmuseum.qld.gov.au/organisation/publications/culture/mephisto.asp
> 
> It certainly is. I sent a copy to Daniel Munoz a couple of months ago now.
> 
> >There is no price noted on the page, but it's aroun 13 Aus$ and it's worth
> >every penny
> 
> I don't recall the exact price, but I think it was more than that (though
> not much)
> 
> I'm willing to go check if anyone is still interested.

 If you want to model the new A7V - GET THIS BOOK ;-) It's vastly
underpriced compared to similiar book from OS

 I sure as hell will be using it when I get the kit & eventually build
it (don't say a word IM Editors)

 Shane


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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:08:28 -0500
From: "ibs4421" <ibs4421@onlineky.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Stockpiling Heat Insoles
Message-ID: <004801c273f8$2378d400$98e51442@dwfjv01>

Just the thing to keep your tootsies warm this winter while beating a path
back and forth over the front at 10,000 ft. in your Pup!

Warren


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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:22:38 -0400
From: Daniel Munoz <dm666@sympatico.ca>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: mephisto
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021014231345.00aa7af8@pop1.sympatico.ca>

Hi Chris,

The Mephisto book is sure a nice little book. There is in this book 
photographs I've never seen elsewhere about the A7V, even in the large 
Hundleby's German A7V Tank. The very large plan include in the book is also 
a valuable addition.

I'm very pleased with mine (thanks again for all Shane !). If you can 
manage to get one, I'm sure you will too.

Regards,

Daniel

At 09:05 PM 14/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>How can I obtain the Mephisto book; is there material in this book that is
>unavailable elsewhere? This is a possible Xmas gift...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris


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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:37:46 +0100
From: Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Ardpol kits
Message-ID: <OFA6D01BED.1195FC6C-ON41256C53.0029D406-41256C53.002AB58E@deltax.cz>


Hi,

I accepting credit cards. VISA and EC/MC

LVi

>>




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Odesl醤o k齧:  wwi@wwi-models.org


Od:    John_Impenna@hyperion.com@wwi-models.org 14.10.2002 15:48:33
Komu:  Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Kopie:
P鴈dm靦:  [WWI] Re: Ardpol kits


<snip>

Regards,
John

P.S. Did Lubos ever start taking credit cards?








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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:26:04 +0100
From: "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3022AA8EA@TUFAO>

Warren,

I don't know becuse as I told you I usually use a q-tip that i obviously
throw away after using. But I suspect alchool would do it.

Pedro

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ibs4421 [mailto:ibs4421@onlineky.com]
> Sent: ter鏰-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2002 4:08
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
> 
> 
> 
> Works just as fine and
> > saves me from cleaning the brush. (yes, yes, I hate cleaning....)
> 
> What do you use to clean your brush after using this product?
> 
> Warren
> 

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:34:03 +0200
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: new French decals. Matt are you there?
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169C5A@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>


I use a brush, for clean up I use first alchohol, then warm water and soap.
Works fine.
/Neil C.

> 
> Warren,
> 
> I don't know becuse as I told you I usually use a q-tip that 
> i obviously
> throw away after using. But I suspect alchool would do it.
> 
> Pedro
> 
> 

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Date:  Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:24:47 +0100
From: Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Propellers - Photographic tone values
Message-ID: <02Oct15.102506bst.118141@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk>


This ties up with the debate about orthochromatic film etc and addresses a
problem I have at present with a Bristol M1c propeller.
In a lot of photographs propellers appear to be almost black but would the
true colour be more of a honey yellow or even a mahogany?  Also, how defined
are the laminates on British props?

To be quite honest I'm asking for this advice because I usually aim for an
orangey/honey finish but somehow I've landed up with a darker, almost
mahogany, appearance to the Bristol prop.  Even though I say so myself it's
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Thanks

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:12:24 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: new here
Message-ID: <018301c27433$5b78e940$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Welcome Back, Chris!
The chosen nom de guerre Hawker Fury speaks well of your taste in aircraft,
if we're talking about the biplane, of course! ;-)
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "HawkerFury" <HawkerFury@t-online.de>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: [WWI] new here


> Hi everyone,
> as you an see by the t-online.de abbreviation, I live in Germany. I tried
to
> sign on using my AOL account, but I just couldn't figure out how to shut
off the
> MIME & HTML encoding, so I took the easy way out, signing on to
t-online.de
> instead.
> I was a list member about 4-5 years ago (using AOL, LOL), and recently
decided
> to check the list again, as I'm back into wwi modelling with a Blue Max
> Halberstadt and DH-2 currently on the building board.
> So far I have completed an Aeroclub FE2-b, an Aviatik Berg (Flashback?),
Eduards
> Albatros CIII, Fokker EIII, Sopwith Triplane & Pup and a Siemens Schuckert
DIII.
> Oh yes, I also built a Dragon Fokker DVIII. These are all the wwi kits I
have
> built, so I won't bother you with the others. When I get a digital camera
I'll
> send some pictures.
> So, I'll wrap up with some basic information; I'm in my early 40s, am
married
> have one daughter of three and work as a freelance architect.
> Oh yes, I am also currently scratch building a new set of wings for my
Eduard
> Hannover as the kit's wings are IMHO pretty poor, using the Harry Woodman
balsa
> core method. As you can seen, I like to have several things on my building
board
> as the same time.
> Enjoy you Sunday, I look forward to hearing from you all.
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:10:55 -0400
From: Larry Marshall <larrym@sympatico.ca>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
Message-ID: <200210110710.55941.larrym@sympatico.ca>

On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:48 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Larry
>
> I was thinking about what you wrote when the following occurred to me. I
> don't wish to be picky (or even have an argument) but what your saying
> assumes no-one touches the plane after the pilot leaves it. Generally
> speaking as soon as the pilot is out the fitters or riggers are "In".

Possibly you missed this statement that I made in he first paragraph:

"Assuming we're not talking about counter-balanced or 
pneumatic control systems here, rudder and ailerons don't have a "resting" 
position.  Elevator tends to respond to gravity and so downward is its 
"resting" position."

The rest of my words were only examples of what could happen, not how those 
control surfaces 'have to be', 'should be' or anything else.  I think any 
trip through a pile of photos will demonstrate that you are correct, that 
these surfaces are in all sorts of orientations on a flying field but they do 
follow 'rules' (eg - both ailerons don't droop like the elevator does).  

In short, I don't disagree with anything you've said, nor see it as 
inconsistent with anything I've said :-)

Cheers --- Larry

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:16:45 +0200
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: new here
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169C5B@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>


I'll forgive him the other one too, especially if it's a racer!
/Neil C

> Welcome Back, Chris!
> The chosen nom de guerre Hawker Fury speaks well of your 
> taste in aircraft,
> if we're talking about the biplane, of course! ;-)
> D.
> 

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:40:16 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Stitched seam advice needed on the AEG Front
Message-ID: <034901c27437$4069e420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

My idea on this would be drawing several paralell lines along a clear decal
strip, preferably in light gray or greyish tan colour. Overcoat with liquid
decal film and at last trim the so painted strip to the desired width and
lenght. Apply over the seam you worked up on the belly of the beast.
HTH
D.


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Date:  Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:41:32 +0100
From: Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
Message-ID: <02Oct15.114151bst.118092@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk>

I'v seen a few photos of machines (DrI, Hannover, SPAD etc) with both
ailerons in the down position.  Significantly these were captured machines
on airfields belonging to the opposition.  Were the ailerons disconnected to
prevent unauthorised use of the machines by inquisitive pilots?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Marshall [mailto:larrym@sympatico.ca]
Sent: 15 October 2002 11:16
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces


On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:48 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Larry

 (eg - both ailerons don't droop like the elevator does)

Cheers --- Larry


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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:02:06 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
Message-ID: <045801c2743a$4d483c20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

I guess that sometimes captured machines were photographed before of after
dismantling for transport to a secure location.
That must be a good time to take pictures without a swarm of mechanics
working on the aircraft, trying to figure out how to dissasemble or assemble
the crate.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Gourdie" <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>

> I'v seen a few photos of machines (DrI, Hannover, SPAD etc) with both
> ailerons in the down position.  Significantly these were captured machines
> on airfields belonging to the opposition.  Were the ailerons disconnected
to
> prevent unauthorised use of the machines by inquisitive pilots?
>
> Tom
>



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:45:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: List lost internet connectivity
Message-ID: <200210151445.KAA67697@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

One of the routers upstream from UNH died this morning (10/8) which
effectively cut UNH off from the internet. By the time you receive
this message, the problem has been resolved.

It's out of our hands here,
Allan

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:47:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Miller <mwmiller06810@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: whoops
Message-ID: <20021015124741.69341.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com>

I was just looking at that new image I posted and
suddenly realised that I screwed up.
The light on hippel is coming almost straight down
while the light on the AC in the background is coming
from the right.

very dumb mistake.
and I still can't figure out how i missed it all this
time. 
will post revised image when finished

Let's just consider this one a "study" ;-) 
Mark

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:50:45 +0200
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>,
Subject: RE: Propellers - Photographic tone values
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169C5E@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

So I'll send this again!
 
 Tom , I handcarved the prop of my Ni28 from walnut, because that
 was what it was made of. It was a pain to work with, and so dark as
 to be almost black, a complete lack of wow-factor! So nothing wrong
 with a darker finish, it might even be more correct. I usually use
 a wood that looks nice (mahogny I think), because I believe that tone 
 of wood on props varied considerably. There's a good deal of dicta-ira
 involved. I think I read that the dark laminates on british props are
 walnut, and the light ones mahogny. I'm sure it varies.
 /Neil C.
 
> > 
> > This ties up with the debate about orthochromatic film etc 
> > and addresses a
> > problem I have at present with a Bristol M1c propeller.
> > In a lot of photographs propellers appear to be almost black 
> > but would the
> > true colour be more of a honey yellow or even a mahogany?  
> > Also, how defined
> > are the laminates on British props?
> > 
> > To be quite honest I'm asking for this advice because I 
> > usually aim for an
> > orangey/honey finish but somehow I've landed up with a 
> darker, almost
> > mahogany, appearance to the Bristol prop.  Even though I say 
> > so myself it's
> > a fair replication of a laminated wood finish but I would 
> > like someone to
> > tell me that this darker finish is OK and acceptable!  I 
> > don't want to strip
> > it down and start again!
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Tom Gourdie
> > 
> 

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:52:43 +0200
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: whoops
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0D169C5F@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

Too late, it's already my wallpaper!
/Neil C.


 I was just looking at that new image I posted and
> suddenly realised that I screwed up.
> The light on hippel is coming almost straight down
> while the light on the AC in the background is coming
> from the right.
> 
> very dumb mistake.
> and I still can't figure out how i missed it all this
> time. 
> will post revised image when finished
> 
> Let's just consider this one a "study" ;-) 
> Mark

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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:55:08 +0100
From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
Message-ID: <1034693708.3dac2c4c748b0@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>:

> 
> This ties up with the debate about orthochromatic film etc and addresses
> a
> problem I have at present with a Bristol M1c propeller.
> In a lot of photographs propellers appear to be almost black but would
> the
> true colour be more of a honey yellow or even a mahogany?  Also, how
> defined
> are the laminates on British props?
> 
> To be quite honest I'm asking for this advice because I usually aim for
> an
> orangey/honey finish but somehow I've landed up with a darker, almost
> mahogany, appearance to the Bristol prop.  Even though I say so myself
> it's
> a fair replication of a laminated wood finish but I would like someone
> to
> tell me that this darker finish is OK and acceptable!  I don't want to
> strip
> it down and start again!
> 

Can anyone prove you wrong ?

Also, the RFc often painted or covered props - the RAF Museum M1C has a grey 
prop

dave



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:03:32 +0100
From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
Message-ID: <1034694212.3dac2e44c69c7@netmail.pipex.net>


Forgot to say - have a look at the DH9A prop from the RAF museum in the list 
site

dave Fleming

(Of course, that email will appear over the next few hours !!)



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:08:29 +0100
From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re:" Posed" Control Surfaces
Message-ID: <1034683709.3dac053dbe7be@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>:

> I'v seen a few photos of machines (DrI, Hannover, SPAD etc) with both
> ailerons in the down position.  Significantly these were captured
> machines
> on airfields belonging to the opposition.  Were the ailerons
> disconnected to
> prevent unauthorised use of the machines by inquisitive pilots?
> 

In short, yes!



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:10:26 +0100
From: Dave Fleming <xtv16@dial.pipex.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Propellers - Photographic tone values
Message-ID: <1034683826.3dac05b2ad53d@netmail.pipex.net>


Quoting Tom Gourdie <T.Gourdie@ucas.ac.uk>:

> 
> This ties up with the debate about orthochromatic film etc and addresses
> a
> problem I have at present with a Bristol M1c propeller.
> In a lot of photographs propellers appear to be almost black but would
> the
> true colour be more of a honey yellow or even a mahogany?  Also, how
> defined
> are the laminates on British props?
> 

Can't seem to access the site at the moment, but there is a photo on there I 
took of the RAF Museum's DH9A that shows it's propellor quite well.

yellow/light tan colours

Dave F



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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:48:39 -0500
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@neb.rr.com>
To: "WWI List" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Modeling Time
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFALJDEFLGEGAKMEEGCNAA.pschwartzkopf@neb.rr.com>

It looks like I'll finally have time to do some modeling now.  The "new HP",
in it's so called wisdom, decided yesterday to eliminate my job by
fictitiously saying it was a result of redundancies after buying Compaq.  So
all of you good people out there who are looking at buying a new printer:
buy a Lexmark.

I did get that ugly "lacing" taken off one wheel for the Hobbycraft Nie. 17
last night using a wood carving tool.  Those small wood carving tools allow
you to exercise control without applying too much force.  I think they're
better than using x-acto knives or chisels at removing unwanted raised
details.

Paul



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