WWI Digest 4681
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) WW1 German album
by Crawford Neil
2) RE: WW1 German album
by Crawford Neil
3) Re: WW1 German album
by "Diego Fernetti"
4) RE: WW1 German album
by "Diego Fernetti"
5) Macchi M9
by Eric GALLAUD
6) See you later, eh?
by "Lance Krieg"
7) 1
by 1
8) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by "Dave Burke"
9) Re: tinted Future
by "Dave Burke"
10) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by Larry Marshall
11) Geography - was painting small parts
by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
12) Re: Geography - was painting small parts
by "Diego Fernetti"
13) inquiry
by "deag"
14) Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
15) Back (& Back in the saddle)
by Dave Fleming
16) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
17) re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
18) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
19) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by Larry Marshall
20) Re: inquiry
by "Lee M."
21) Bombing tanks in WWI
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
22) Breguet 14 decals
by "Bob Pearson"
23) @ Bob Pearson.
by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse"
24) Just a thought ...
by "Bob Pearson"
25) Re: @ Bob Pearson.
by "Bob Pearson"
26) ARGHHHHHHHH
by "Bob Pearson"
27) Re: Just a thought ...
by KarrArt@aol.com
28) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by "Dave Burke"
29) Re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
by "David C. Fletcher"
30) Re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
by "Diego Fernetti"
31) Re: Your question about the Italian front
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
32) Yet Another Pfalz Question
by "NEIL EDDY"
33) Re: Yet Another Pfalz Question
by "Hans Trauner"
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:20:38 +0200
From: Crawford Neil
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: WW1 German album
Message-ID:
Looking around for something completely different (OK I'll come
clean, what the heck do the seat buckles look like on a Spitfire?)
I found this. Old hat?
/Neil C. (Norther than most)
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:28:07 +0200
From: Crawford Neil
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: WW1 German album
Message-ID:
And here is the url I forgot
http://www.treasurebunker.com/acatalog/310x.jpg
/Neil
>
> Looking around for something completely different (OK I'll come
> clean, what the heck do the seat buckles look like on a Spitfire?)
> I found this. Old hat?
> /Neil C. (Norther than most)
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:35:40 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To:
Subject: Re: WW1 German album
Message-ID: <007601c26bbb$b29104e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>
You found what?
D.
At the North of very few things
----- Original Message -----
From: "Crawford Neil"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:22 PM
Subject: [WWI] WW1 German album
>
> Looking around for something completely different (OK I'll come
> clean, what the heck do the seat buckles look like on a Spitfire?)
> I found this. Old hat?
> /Neil C. (Norther than most)
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:41:43 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To:
Subject: RE: WW1 German album
Message-ID: <008501c26bbc$8aa3a7c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>
Oh!
Nice website!
Lots of reference for uniforms as well!
http://www.treasurebunker.com/acatalog/Catalogue_German_Imperial_Items_17.ht
ml
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Crawford Neil"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: [WWI] RE: WW1 German album
> And here is the url I forgot
>
> http://www.treasurebunker.com/acatalog/310x.jpg
>
> /Neil
>
>
> >
> > Looking around for something completely different (OK I'll come
> > clean, what the heck do the seat buckles look like on a Spitfire?)
> > I found this. Old hat?
> > /Neil C. (Norther than most)
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:44:24 +0200
From: Eric GALLAUD
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: Macchi M9
Message-ID: <3D9DB758.9A837228@club-internet.fr>
Hello everybody,
Recently, I received a Choroszy Macchi M9 from Karaya (Very good and
fast service).
It is a very nice kit, but, there is no information about the Italian
marking placement while there are Italian markings.
Anybody could helps me ?
Eric
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:54:48 -0500
From: "Lance Krieg"
To:
Subject: See you later, eh?
Message-ID:
I'm checking out for three weeks or so to tour the Great White North. I
expect to return with photos of the OT planes in the Canadian Air
Museum, the D.VII at Knowlton, and maybe some of the planes at Owl's
Head.
If anyone wants anything in particular, better speak quickly!
Lance
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:25:00 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:43:21 -0500
From: "Dave Burke"
To:
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <000601c26bc5$27472ae0$6173fea9@s0024008072>
Alberto wrote:
> As for the red and white bands being used on training machines, some of
the
> pictures at my disposal suggest that this was not ***always*** the case,
as
> they were also painted on front line machines.
>
I thought the red and white bands denoted naval aircraft. Yes? No?
Possibly?
DB
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:46:01 -0500
From: "Dave Burke"
To:
Subject: Re: tinted Future
Message-ID: <002a01c26bc5$86281ba0$6173fea9@s0024008072>
> > Hola Amigo!
> > What did you use to tint it?
> > Warren
>
Hey Warren,
I use artist's inks (drafter's ink) that is available in art supply
stores. Comes in a range of colors and is easy to use.
Just my 2 sheckles' worth
DB
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:55:54 -0400
From: Larry Marshall
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <200210041255.54037.larrym@sympatico.ca>
> I thought the red and white bands denoted naval aircraft. Yes? No?
> Possibly?
Certainly not according to the FMP A-H books, which attribute the stripes to
training, though as Alberto indicates, they seem to be on some front-line
machines too. I suspect the reason for this is that most advanced training
took place within the front-line fliks.
--
Cheers --- Larry
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:41:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Geography - was painting small parts
Message-ID: <20021004174103.543B734848@login-3.eunet.no>
Hei,
>Neil the fjord dweller wrote (well I know you don't live in a fjord, but I
>can't think on anything better now!)
Just want to correct you on that expression, the fjords of Scanidanvia are
located on the Atlantic side, so the only time Swedes have been dwelling
there was at the times when they occupied parts of Norway.
(Neil is of course welcome to visit the Norwegian fjords whenever he likes,
we are proud of them and like to show them to visitors)
The German emperor liked to visit the Norwegian fjords before WW1,
usually he brought a fair part of the "Hochseeflotte" with him.
This resulted in the British Royal navy staying just outside Norwegian
waters to keep an eye on things and the Norwegian navy feeling small
with their four small coastal battleships.
Two other items that are more directly OT:
I have more photos to scan and send in, think the next sets will be German.
And the discussion on the Aerodrome forum is a good example of people
pressing the "send" buttton before thinking about the consequences
- I respect the work of both parties and I am impressd by the time
and effort they put into our hobby.
Eders
Knut Erik
(Who live 3km from Oslofjorden)
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:53:08 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To:
Subject: Re: Geography - was painting small parts
Message-ID: <002901c26bce$e65d3ba0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>
Hei Knut!
> Just want to correct you on that expression, the fjords of Scanidanvia are
> located on the Atlantic side, so the only time Swedes have been dwelling
> there was at the times when they occupied parts of Norway.
> (Neil is of course welcome to visit the Norwegian fjords whenever he
likes,
> we are proud of them and like to show them to visitors)
Oh, thanks! Sorry for the misunderstanding. This Enciclopaedia Fernetica I'm
using is turning more and more unreliable again.
> The German emperor liked to visit the Norwegian fjords before WW1,
> usually he brought a fair part of the "Hochseeflotte" with him.
> This resulted in the British Royal navy staying just outside Norwegian
> waters to keep an eye on things and the Norwegian navy feeling small
> with their four small coastal battleships.
Well, vikings had small vessels but they made a good work with them once!
:-)
> Two other items that are more directly OT:
> I have more photos to scan and send in, think the next sets will be
German.
Grrreat!
> Knut Erik
> (Who live 3km from Oslofjorden)
I think I'm a bit farther than that! ;-)
D.
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 00 08:00:48 Pacific Daylight Time
From: "deag"
To: "wwi"
Subject: inquiry
Message-ID: <200210041906.PAA73716@mustang.sr.unh.edu>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:15:35 EDT
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II
Message-ID: <159.154e3463.2acf42d7@aol.com>
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In a message dated 10/1/2002 11:01:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes:
> I keep a bottle of Testors
> leather, a few of the Testors small bottle metallics and a bottle of
> Metalizer for painting rigging, but everything else I use is a
> Future/Acryl mix. I was a die hard enamel man until I tried it and now I
> won't switch back.
>
> sp
>
Thanks for the info Steve it sounds like it just might be what I need to keep
spraying during the winter months.
Best Regards,
Jon
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In a message dated 10/1/2002 11:01:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes:
I keep a bottle of Testors
leather, a few of the Testors small bottle metallics and a bottle of
Metalizer for painting rigging, but everything else I use is a
Future/Acryl mix. I was a die hard enamel man until I tried it and now I
won't switch back.
sp
Thanks for the info Steve it sounds like it just might be what I need to keep spraying during the winter months.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 20:39:09 +0100
From: Dave Fleming
To:
Subject: Back (& Back in the saddle)
Message-ID: <1033760349.3d9dee5d59069@netmail.pipex.net>
Hi folks,
Hope you all had a good week ! Anybody miss me ? Thought not.
Called away at short notice Monday am, the only saving grace being that I was
travelling by car rather than plane, so chucked a few modelling things in.
4 nights in a hotelmeant lots of free time.....and.......
I FINISHED MY ALBATROS!!
You know, that one for the cookup that was due in Sept 2000.
Flush with the urge to build, I went out and bought a couple of ot kits (1/72
Challenger Tank and a 1/144th Mig I.44)just to keep the flow going. Almost
finished them.
I'll take some piccies of the Alb tomorrow.
Dave
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:45:21 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <000e01c26be9$9fb22740$0200a8c0@grzesiek>
Hi!
> I thought the red and white bands denoted naval aircraft. Yes? No?
> Possibly?
According to O'Connor, red and white bands were at first the main AH
national marking, later (about 1914-15 winter, I can check if you need exact
date) black crosses were added, and finally Army aviation withdrawn stripes
(in 1915?).
In Navy aviation stripes were used till the end of the war, as "fast
recognition" markings - Italians used a lot of very similar airplanes to the
Austrians (also license built Lohners!) so that was necessary. Also Italians
painted their flying boats in a lot of green-white-red stripes or other
fields.
Lohners (and Aviatiks and DFW and Albatrosen B were used with these stripes
operationally on the Eastern Front. I have interesting, but short book about
it).
G.
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:13:22 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
Message-ID: <002401c26bea$ded33c60$0200a8c0@grzesiek>
Dave!
> Hope you all had a good week ! Anybody miss me ? Thought not.
I missed you!
Have you got Alcock Mouse photos from me?
Cheers!
G.
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:21:44 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <002a01c26bec$0a82e6c0$0200a8c0@grzesiek>
O'Connor quotes various AH documents, which indicate no connection of
stripes with training units. Till the May 1915 in theory (date of the order
introducing crosses) , and till the Dec. 1915 in reality (on which is dated
the first photo showing plane with crosses) that stripes were the only
Austro-Hungarian national markings (with addition of the black eagle on the
yellow field sometimes).
Introduction of crosses wasn't probably applied in training units, so if you
see a photo of plane without the crosses, but with stripes later in the war,
it probably belongs to the training unit.
Crosses were introduced in order to avoid misidentification with enemy
Serbian planes, which were marked with red-white-blue stripes, with very
pale blue, which tended to fade quickly, leavung the impression of the red
and white stripes only.
Cheers!
G.
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:51:19 -0400
From: Larry Marshall
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <200210041751.19183.larrym@sympatico.ca>
> According to O'Connor, red and white bands were at first the main AH
> national marking, later (about 1914-15 winter, I can check if you need
> exact date) black crosses were added, and finally Army aviation withdrawn
> stripes (in 1915?).
> In Navy aviation stripes were used till the end of the war, as "fast
> recognition" markings - Italians used a lot of very similar airplanes to
This is certainly a more fun explanation than the on that Alberto proposed
(and I seconded from the same source). Thanks for jumping in with real
knowledge (grin).
I spent time today with a tuna sandwich and the FMP books and convinced myself
that I was wrong about the trainer thing as a single explanation but couldn't
see an alternative. I think my misinformation came from reading abou the
Lohner B.I & B.II and all the references to their use as trainers. I could
have sworn that I'd read an explicit statement about the stripes and trainers
but I sure can't find it now so it must have been my imagination.
> Lohners (and Aviatiks and DFW and Albatrosen B were used with these stripes
> operationally on the Eastern Front. I have interesting, but short book
> about it).
I bet it's in Polish, right (grin)? Thanks again for the clarification.
--
Cheers --- Larry
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:24:19 -0500
From: "Lee M."
To:
Cc: "deag"
Subject: Re: inquiry
Message-ID: <006701c26c05$8c8a37e0$ae4d39cc@mesystem>
If you ever get an answer to a message written in HTML it would suprise me
greatly.
The wwi/University of New Hampshire servers do not read or respond to HTML
messages.
Lee M.
New Braunfels, Tx
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From: "deag"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:08 PM
Subject: [WWI] inquiry
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:32:47 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: Bombing tanks in WWI
Message-ID: <00ee01c26c06$bb17d4e0$0200a8c0@grzesiek>
Hi!
Long time ago we discussed possibility of the aerial boming of the tanks in
WWI.
Polish moography of the A7V tank (small, but very nice, with lots of colour
profiles) states that "Herkules" (562) was hit by an airplane-dropped bomb
on 31 August 1918 at Fremicourt.
Cheers!
G.
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:20:33 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson"
To: ww1 mailing list
Subject: Breguet 14 decals
Message-ID: <103378092901@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com>
Hi all,
I got inspired and just did a set of Breguet decals. There are three French
and one Polish option on this first set.
French
Br107 winged cobra
Br117 Rooster/Nebraska
Br 202 Gabrielle
Polish
ESK.BR.39 Girl strewing flowers
1/72 $5
1/48 $6
All I can say is "man oh man but the girl looks good" :-)
The Polish profile isn't posted yet, but I can email it to anyone ordering
the decals.
Bob
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:33:24 +1000
From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse"
To:
Subject: @ Bob Pearson.
Message-ID: <004901c26c0f$32350540$1b4e2dcb@future>
Mate do you have a listing of all the decals you have made so far? If so
could they be posted some where.
Cheers mate
Ross
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:38:26 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson"
To: ww1 mailing list
Subject: Just a thought ...
Message-ID: <103378193401@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com>
. . .. on all these virii that are circulating now. ... they are actually a
conspiracy by the companies that market anti-virus software ... half of the
company develope the virus .. the other half the counter to it.
as usual I'll say
Get a Mac
OT comment: Two decal sets already claimed .... two 1/48 and one 1/72 left
.. I'll make more if demand warrants. . right now I'm almost out of white,
so I don't want to do a big batch in case I get an order for more of the
corvette sets and have to do one of those before I get more ink
Bob
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:50:00 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: @ Bob Pearson.
Message-ID: <103378263601@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com>
So far the WWI sets are USAS insignia in 1/32, 1/48 and 1/72 for 13, 94,
103, 138 and 139th AS
Salmson 2A2 insignias in 1/48 and 1/72
Palmer Cord Aero Tyre script in 1/32, 48 and 72
Also pretty well anything that has been done on the CD is available as a
custom set. . I just have to get enough varied orders to do a sheet so as
not to waste the space.
Bob
----------
>From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse"
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [WWI] @ Bob Pearson.
>Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2002, 6:34 pm
>
> Mate do you have a listing of all the decals you have made so far? If so
> could they be posted some where.
>
> Cheers mate
>
> Ross
>
>
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:52:10 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson"
To: ww1 mailing list
Subject: ARGHHHHHHHH
Message-ID: <103378311101@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com>
In the "What can you do dept"
While I was answering the last message one of my ever so cute helpers made
herself busy beside me. ... I just looked over to see my last ribbon of
white alps yanked out of the cassette .. luckily most of the remainder is
still usable
Bob
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:04:44 EDT
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Just a thought ...
Message-ID:
In a message dated 10/4/02 6:41:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bpearson@kaien.net writes:
<< as usual I'll say
Get a Mac >>
did you see the news item a couple of weeks ago about a new Mac virus going
around?And how it's a precursor of things to come? Macs aren't immune, it's
just that until now it wasn't worth the average miscreant's time to make a
MacVirus.
RK
sopwith, naglo........etc.
and speaking of Sopwith, I shot a film roll last weekend of the San Diego
museum's new, unfinished Pup. I spoke for a long while with the guy who did
the metal work and he explained what a pain in the left buttock it was making
all the duplicate mounts, plates, fittings, turnbuckles, etc. Also spoke with
some of the woodwork guys and they told the same tale of wanting to get it
all RIGHT.This thing is going to look like it just rolled out of the Sopwith
factory when finished. One of the wives of one of the sponsors of the project
whispered in my ear in a raspy snarl "you know what they're going to do to
this airplane?........COVER IT! can you believe it? They're going to cover up
all that beautiful work". I know what she meant- it's going to be one elegant
skeleton.
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:30:02 -0500
From: "Dave Burke"
To:
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <001601c26c1f$7e8dbf80$21eb79a5@s0024008072>
1> Lohners (and Aviatiks and DFW and Albatrosen B were used with these
stripes
> operationally on the Eastern Front. I have interesting, but short book
about
> it).
> G.
>
>
Cool! Thanks for the clarification.
DB
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 22:12:42 -0700
From: "David C. Fletcher"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
Message-ID: <3D9E74CA.1020806@mars.ark.com>
Dave Fleming wrote:
Anybody miss me ? Thought not.
I'm back too - it's a long story and I missed meeting up with list
members along the way (except "nieuport", of course). I did meet up
with a number of fellow modellers in Ottawa and attended a local IPMS
meeting there. Even better, I sold my house there to one of 'em ;-)
I currently have two cars, one aeroplane and one house in various stages
of dismantlement, so modelling is not the highest priority. I did get
some decals and a couple of kits along the way but I would be ostracized
on this list if I mentioned the subjects...
On the 'OT' front, I did divert from the primary mission and visit the
NASM in 'DC'. I even got a passable photo of the rotary engine that
spins (albeit slowly, so I didn't need a fast shutter speed).
Dave Fletcher
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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:51:22 +0000
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Back (& Back in the saddle)
Message-ID:
Dave!
>Hope you all had a good week ! Anybody miss me ? Thought not.
I missed you. I wondered if you were kidnapped by the little folk while
walking by the bogs.
>I FINISHED MY ALBATROS!!
Then you was captured by faeries indeed! Who else could make that miracle?
Pictures! Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
D.
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:31:56 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: Re: Your question about the Italian front
Message-ID: <002301c26c6b$31b15180$0200a8c0@grzesiek>
> > I have interesting, but short book
> > about it).
>
> I bet it's in Polish, right (grin)? Thanks again for the clarification.
Of course in Polish.
It's a more fun than serious book, was sponsored by Okocim brewery - as on
the Okocim (Brzesko) brewery area was located one of the most important
aerodrome during Galizien campaign in 1914, also brewery workshops were used
as aircraft repair workshops. Some interesting events described in the book
are:
"Bombing" of the Russian parade in captured Okocim with brewery leaflets
"Drink the finest Okocim beer!"
story about cossacks ordered to destroy the big beer reserves and remove
them to the river - immediately after all the Russian soldiers were drinking
"water" from the river (rather small creek).
First artillery attack corrected from air through radio: bombing of Tarnow
12 January 1915, aircraft involved was Albatros B.I "Muzzl" from Flik 1,
crew Hesse and Dumbacher, but Benno Fiala was involved too.
Airmail to the besieged Przemysl Fortress
and the beginning of the AH air operations in the WWI from Galizien
airfields, by Fliks 1, 5, 7, 8, 10 , 11, 14.
Book contains some nice OT paintings: mostly mentioned in the book
airplanes, but also big colour plate showing air-service uniforms of all
main WWI countries.
Book isn't available in the bookstores now.
Cheers!
G.
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:47:42 +1000
From: "NEIL EDDY"
To:
Subject: Yet Another Pfalz Question
Message-ID: <000f01c26c75$c7cbf080$5fc832d2@default>
Here we are again on another action packed modelling Saturday night...and I
have another Pfalz question(s)!
On the WW1 Website various builds of Holtzem's D-111a mention non standard
exaust pipes. Has anyone got any clear pictures or descriptions of these
exhaust thingies? What is necessary to build them in 1/48?
All the Best
Neil E
(Southern Diet)
(Maybe I'll go out next Saturday night....)
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 16:15:16 +0200
From: "Hans Trauner"
To:
Subject: Re: Yet Another Pfalz Question
Message-ID: <001c01c26c79$a0b738c0$f2a272d4@FRITZweb>
On those published pics it's clear to see that this D.IIIa did not use the
standard saxophon style exhaust, but mere short tubes on each cylinder. I
would estimate them 2,5mm for 1/48.
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: "NEIL EDDY"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: [WWI] Yet Another Pfalz Question
> Here we are again on another action packed modelling Saturday night...and
I
> have another Pfalz question(s)!
>
> On the WW1 Website various builds of Holtzem's D-111a mention non standard
> exaust pipes. Has anyone got any clear pictures or descriptions of these
> exhaust thingies? What is necessary to build them in 1/48?
>
> All the Best
>
> Neil E
> (Southern Diet)
>
> (Maybe I'll go out next Saturday night....)
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