WWI Digest 4675 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: dirty dealings by "Courtney Allen" 2) New models on site by tbittners@sprintmail.com 3) AEG arrived by "Hans Trauner" 4) and the A7V's also. by "Hans Trauner" 5) Internet Modeler by "Michael Kendix" 6) Re: Albatros D.II Question by "Lance Krieg" 7) Krakow Museum website by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 8) Re: Krakow Museum website by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: Krakow Museum website by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 10) Epoxy Filler by "bruce simard" 11) Re: Epoxy Filler by SSH 12) Re: Krakow Museum website by "Thomas Solinski" 13) re: dirty dealings by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 14) Re: Krakow Museum website by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 15) Matt's Triplanes by Dennis Ugulano 16) Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 17) Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II by Steven Perry 18) Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II by "ibs4421" 19) Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II by Steven Perry 20) Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings by "NEIL EDDY" 21) Double Posts by "NEIL EDDY" 22) Re: Double Posts by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 23) Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings by "Bob Pearson" 24) Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings by Steven Perry 25) Re: Double Posts by "NEIL EDDY" 26) Re: Double Posts by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" 27) Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings by "NEIL EDDY" 28) Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings by "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 05:53:55 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <001601c26949$9a616b40$1258510c@oemcomputer> Just got my October issue of SAMI. I too enjoy reading the magazine during my commute. No mention of any problems. Courtney Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: dirty dealings > Hi Peter; > > How reliable is your info? Their website is still up and running (see below) > with nary a hint of anything untoward. I just hope it isn't true - I like my > monthly diet of these mags - It gives me something to read in my lunch hour. > > http://www.sampublications.com/samfront_a.htm > > All the Best > > Neil E > (Southern Ashram) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > > > I learn from an informed source that the company which owns SMI, SAMI and > one > > or two other modeling titles has gone bump > > > > Peter L > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:14:19 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New models on site Message-ID: <200210011514.g91FEJo57558@king1.kingsnake.com> Just looked at the News page, and Al has uploaded some new models. The stripped Dr.I is cool! Plus, Steve Cox's Ambulance looks really great. Steve! Want to give the list any hints/tips with the build? I have one coming from Australia, and after I finish the Model T armored car I've started, would like to work on it. Cool. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:07:21 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: AEG arrived Message-ID: <004f01c26964$9ff9f5c0$dba072d4@FRITZweb> Listees, after dealing with some WWII BfX0X Projekts I am pushed back to the one and only theme. The 1/48 AEG G.IV arrived at last. I ordered it via Hannants and after the usual two weeks I got it. Hannants wrote that this the the latest production run, but, alas, wings are warped still badly. Oh, boy, how I hate that...it will be a literal cook-up. Do you prefer yor AEG soft or hard boiled, Sir? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:16:00 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: and the A7V's also. Message-ID: <005701c26965$d540c3c0$dba072d4@FRITZweb> Together with the AEG half a dozen of A7V's also materialized on my desk. Three for me, three for my brother. Have to hide them. My wife fully accepts my hobbies, but she hates AFV's. The kits are simple, as expected. The weaponry is a little bit over-simplified and I have to see what to do. What really puzzles me are the FS colour codes without any written expressions. And if you try to figure it out judging from the box top or back you will be confused to say the least. May I ask for help? FS 16118 should be something like Feldgrau / fieldgrey FS 10219 dark brown??? FS 10118 ochre ??? I guess that as 10219 and 10118 are close together, so it should be in the brown edge of the FS numeral system. The Mephisto shown in Australia shows a fieldgray basis with dark brown and light ochre soft overspray. It that correct..? The Emhar kit shows only a two-tone field gray / dark brown box top and instructions. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:20:16 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Internet Modeler Message-ID: I seem to have been bumped off the list last night but I just wanted to mention the excellent IM issue this month. An excellent review/build by Matt, really tells all you want to know about comparing these Dr.1 kits. Plus the nice A7V by Mr. Manter. Give the man who scratchbuilt the TB-3 amedal and a rubber room. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:24:53 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II Question Message-ID: Thanks to those who responded here. For general information, if anyone is interested, the throttle IS on the control column, Flight's drawing to the contrary notwithstanding. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:52:00 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Krakow Museum website Message-ID: <004c01c2696a$dc950a00$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi folks! This is URL to the Krakow Museum website. Not so rich, but still interesting. Check especially list of exhibited and stored items. Some surprises guaranteed! (Yes, I'm back!) Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:37:13 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Krakow Museum website Message-ID: <018501c26971$2de812c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Which URL? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: [WWI] Krakow Museum website > Hi folks! > This is URL to the Krakow Museum website. Not so rich, but still > interesting. Check especially list of exhibited and stored items. Some > surprises guaranteed! > (Yes, I'm back!) > Cheers! > G. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:54:51 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Krakow Museum website Message-ID: <009801c26973$a4a61ae0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Sanjeev wrote: > Hi Grzegorz, > Thanks for the note! Maybe someday you will allow us to see the > URL! And Diego: > Which URL? I've posted this URL some 5 or 10 seconds after the first mail, but it seems to be lost somewhere in net-space. So again: http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/ G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:26:08 -0400 From: "bruce simard" To: "WWI List" Subject: Epoxy Filler Message-ID: <001501c26978$05c3b860$973aaf3f@22by501> Listees: At last weekend's RCII, the WWI group got into a discussion about fillers. Sangeev and Greg wanted more info on the filler I use, so here goes. I use a product called Metalset A4. This is a 2 part aluminum impregnated epoxy. It can be purchased over the net, but in bulk. (12 Tubesets). I've used this product since 1985, and am extremely happy with the results. It is a 2 part epoxy, about the consistency of toothpaste out of the tube. But then you blend it with a dampened finger,(or Q-tip,if you're PC !) with just water. One of the drawbacks to this product is the drying time - 24 hours. It will set up before then, but a full cure is 24 hours. Not a problem for me.(Since I'm such a "Speedy" builder !) But there are several properties of this that really make it worth using. First...There is NO Shrinkage ! - NONE ! Second...when it dries, it is hard enough to actually drill a tap into. But at the same time, I wet sand it with 400 and up grit to really blend the seam, repair, whatever. Plus you can get an extremely fine feathered edge to any application on a model, and no problem painting over it. I always paint with acrylics, and just fog a primer coat over the epoxy to give the next coat something to "bite" into. Great stuff that I heartily recommend. To get this product and more info, go to : www.smooth-on.com , and click on adhesives. Then click on Metalset A4, the info is there on it. From what I can see of the order form, the smallest amount that can be ordered is a box of 12 6oz. tubesets, for $ 82.91. What I suggest, is a group order. For 12 folks that will be approximately $ 6.92 per set, which will last you several years at least. I normally build in 1/72,(No comments,Dame Karen !), and use a toothpick to apply it. It goes a long way. If I can be of assistance to anyone on this, just let me know. Until then, hope this helps..............................Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:01:41 -0400 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Epoxy Filler Message-ID: <20021001185855.715CC690BE1@mail.mailsnare.net> Bruce, Thanks for the info. A search also shows this product is retailed by other online businesses in more affordable quantities, notably: http://www.rods4u.com/tackle/u40.html and possibly : http://www.eagerplastics.com/metalseta4.htm Thanks Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:22:03 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Krakow Museum website Message-ID: <003b01c2697f$d2ce6560$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Hey Gzegorz I need a favor for an OT project, Please translate "For God and Emperor" into Polish for me Thanks Tom Solinski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:55 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Krakow Museum website > Sanjeev wrote: > > Hi Grzegorz, > > Thanks for the note! Maybe someday you will allow us to see the > > URL! > > And Diego: > > Which URL? > > I've posted this URL some 5 or 10 seconds after the first mail, but it seems > to be lost somewhere in net-space. > So again: > http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/ > > G. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:51:37 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <028101c2698c$5649a4c0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> So it is the cause of your appearing on "The Aerodrome" as an Austrian von Kruel? G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 23:07:54 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Krakow Museum website Message-ID: <031c01c2698e$9c4d9d80$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > I need a favor for an OT project, Please translate "For God and Emperor" > into Polish for me Tom! It's "Za Boga i Cesarza", but it doesn't sound like Polish OT saying. What emperor? It sounds like Napoleonic. Russian emperor would be "Car" (Tsar) instead of "Cesarz" Let me know the context to get better translation. Can be off-list, if you like. Generally Poles had "Bog Honor Ojczyzna" (God, Honour, Fatherland) words on the standards. Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:15:18 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Matt's Triplanes Message-ID: <200210012115_MC3-1-1338-5CBE@compuserve.com> Matt, Two things. 1. Excellent job and review on the Triplanes. Very nice work. 2. I have some information on Esoteric kits. Please contact me off list. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:30:09 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II Message-ID: <15f.14dcefef.2acbb431@aol.com> --part1_15f.14dcefef.2acbb431_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2002 6:18:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: > The fuselage and tailfeathers were done the same except I used red decal > for the red stripes. All the paint was Ceramcoat/Future mix Hi Steve, I've been wanting to try this, what ratio do you use on your mix and what air pressure do you recommend best to start with? Best Regards, Jon --part1_15f.14dcefef.2acbb431_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2002 6:18:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes:


The fuselage and tailfeathers were done the same except I used red decal
for the red stripes. All the paint was Ceramcoat/Future mix


Hi Steve, I've been wanting to try this, what ratio do you use on your mix and what air pressure do you recommend best to start with?

Best Regards,
Jon 


             

--part1_15f.14dcefef.2acbb431_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 22:59:31 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II Message-ID: <3D9A6113.2070504@tampabay.rr.com> > > Hi Steve, I've been wanting to try this, what ratio do you use on your mix > and what air pressure do you recommend best to start with? Jon: I don't measure the paint & Future. Basically I mix to about the consistancy of whole milk. More Future increases the gloss, final hardness and leveling properties. Less Future will help paints that don't cover well and gives a softer, less glossy surface. The Acryl/Future mixes are pretty forgiving. I've made some over thick and over thin mixes. These can be adjusted in the paint cup if they are causing problems. I use a double action Passche air brush between 15 - 20 psi. More for thicker mixes and less for thinner. Not much in the way of exact help, but a little fooling around will quickly give you a feel for the stuff. One nice thing is that it is very easy to remove if you screw it up. You should have seen the hash I made of the Lohner fuselage the first time I painted it. A little wet polishing with 2000 - 4000 grit will remove the paint without damaging any surface detail. Future/Acryl is definitely easier to damage than enamel, but the advantages of mixing my own colors (no darn FS #s), the inexpensive paint and Future's leveling properties, (magic), outweigh the inconvieniences by a long shot in my book. I keep a bottle of Testors leather, a few of the Testors small bottle metallics and a bottle of Metalizer for painting rigging, but everything else I use is a Future/Acryl mix. I was a die hard enamel man until I tried it and now I won't switch back. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:23:35 -0500 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II Message-ID: <008601c269c3$18371f00$88e51442@dwfjv01> but everything else I use is a > Future/Acryl mix. I was a die hard enamel man until I tried it and now I > won't switch back. > > sp Steve, Can this be hand brushed, or is it an "airbrush only" thing? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:36:30 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Finished the CSM Lohner B.II Message-ID: <3D9A69BE.80302@tampabay.rr.com> > Can this be hand brushed, or is it an "airbrush only" thing? > Warren: I don't do a lot of hand brushing, especially large areas. But it can be done. I'd advise hand brushing over a light gray primer as hand brushing over bare plastic is pretty hard to get right even with enamels. ( OK all you hand brushers with top dollar sable brushes can beat me with the handles). A sprayed primer would probably work best, but that sort of eliminates the advantages of hand brushing if you are tryig to avoid the air brush. The old adage of many thin coats dried well in between applies double to Future/Acryl mixes, sprayed or handbrushed. HTH sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:41:20 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <000801c269c5$92f99860$795132d2@default> Given the recent kerfuffle going on at The Aerodrome is it any wonder? Talk about the Battle of the Titans! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:51 AM Subject: [WWI] re: dirty dealings > > So it is the cause of your appearing on "The Aerodrome" as an Austrian von > Kruel? > G. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:52:37 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Double Posts Message-ID: <003901c269c7$264ec4e0$795132d2@default> Hi All; Did anyone receive double posts of everything this morning? When I checked my e-mail this morning, all the List posts came in twice. Whilst I look forward to the List posts as much as everyone else this seems a little excessive. Anyone have any ideas why this happened? All the Best Neil E (Southern Front) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:01:40 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Double Posts Message-ID: <009701c269c8$698429c0$1b4e2dcb@future> It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got single messages this morning. It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got single messages this morning. Cheers RossRoss ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [WWI] Double Posts > Hi All; > > Did anyone receive double posts of everything this morning? When I checked > my e-mail this morning, all the List posts came in twice. Whilst I look > forward to the List posts as much as everyone else this seems a little > excessive. > > Anyone have any ideas why this happened? > > All the Best > > Neil E > (Southern Front) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 21:00:02 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <103353129601@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> What's going om there? I can't be bothered to search through all the posts. . I much prefer a mailing list than a bulletin board. Bob ---------- >From: "NEIL EDDY" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings >Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2002, 8:43 pm > > Given the recent kerfuffle going on at The Aerodrome is it any wonder? Talk > about the Battle of the Titans! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... > > All the Best > > Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:16:48 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <3D9A7330.8030108@tampabay.rr.com> Bob Pearson wrote: > What's going om there? I can't be bothered to search through all the posts. > . I much prefer a mailing list than a bulletin board. > > Bob Well it is easier to find the first post of a thread there, but the rest is more cunbersome than the List format. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:20:18 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Double Posts Message-ID: <005601c269cb$04680a40$795132d2@default> LOL! You are a very silly person! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Double Posts > It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got > single messages this morning. > > It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got > single messages this morning. > > Cheers > > RossRoss > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NEIL EDDY" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:53 PM > Subject: [WWI] Double Posts > > > > Hi All; > > > > Did anyone receive double posts of everything this morning? When I checked > > my e-mail this morning, all the List posts came in twice. Whilst I look > > forward to the List posts as much as everyone else this seems a little > > excessive. > > > > Anyone have any ideas why this happened? > > > > All the Best > > > > Neil E > > (Southern Front) > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:26:15 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Double Posts Message-ID: <00af01c269cb$d87fffe0$1b4e2dcb@future> ROFLMAO... It must be the super glue again.. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Double Posts > LOL! You are a very silly person! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:03 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Double Posts > > > > It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got > > single messages this morning. > > > > It may of been of been your ISP mail sever doing a double up as i only got > > single messages this morning. > > > > Cheers > > > > RossRoss > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "NEIL EDDY" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:53 PM > > Subject: [WWI] Double Posts > > > > > > > Hi All; > > > > > > Did anyone receive double posts of everything this morning? When I > checked > > > my e-mail this morning, all the List posts came in twice. Whilst I look > > > forward to the List posts as much as everyone else this seems a little > > > excessive. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas why this happened? > > > > > > All the Best > > > > > > Neil E > > > (Southern Front) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:34:23 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <006401c269cc$fc7a17e0$795132d2@default> Hi Bob; What we've got is a huge blue between Achim Engels and Dan San Abbott and others about Fokker streaky finishes, life, the universe and everything. It has descended to recriminations and threats of legal action (All of which may or may not be valid). After reading it, it makes me glad that there is a certain amount of healthy scepticism on this List about such topics. It also drives home a few simple truths about the epistemological limitations of defining WW1 colours as well. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=aircraft&action=display&num =1029004977&start=0&showall=true The first link is the original debate - its about five pages long. If nothing else its an interesting debate. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=aircraft&action=display&num =1033135680 And the second link is its aftermath. Dicta Ira Rules! All the Best Neil E (Souths) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings > What's going om there? I can't be bothered to search through all the posts. > . I much prefer a mailing list than a bulletin board. > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: "NEIL EDDY" > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings > >Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2002, 8:43 pm > > > > > Given the recent kerfuffle going on at The Aerodrome is it any wonder? Talk > > about the Battle of the Titans! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... > > > > All the Best > > > > Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:49:58 +1000 From: "Ross & Wendy Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings Message-ID: <00bd01c269cf$2938a4c0$1b4e2dcb@future> I thought that as a hobby this was all about having a good time and building kits. But when I read that this sort of thing is going on, and I will go and see what is being said at the Drome, it sure does put a dampner on the hobby and does nothing to help it grow. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings > Hi Bob; > > What we've got is a huge blue between Achim Engels and Dan San Abbott and > others about Fokker streaky finishes, life, the universe and everything. It > has descended to recriminations and threats of legal action (All of which > may or may not be valid). > > After reading it, it makes me glad that there is a certain amount of healthy > scepticism on this List about such topics. It also drives home a few simple > truths about the epistemological limitations of defining WW1 colours as > well. > http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=aircraft&action=display&num > =1029004977&start=0&showall=true > > The first link is the original debate - its about five pages long. If > nothing else its an interesting debate. > > http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=aircraft&action=display&num > =1033135680 > > And the second link is its aftermath. > > Dicta Ira Rules! > > All the Best > > Neil E > (Souths) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Pearson" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:03 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings > > > > What's going om there? I can't be bothered to search through all the > posts. > > . I much prefer a mailing list than a bulletin board. > > > > Bob > > > > ---------- > > >From: "NEIL EDDY" > > >To: Multiple recipients of list > > >Subject: [WWI] Aerodrome was: Re: re: dirty dealings > > >Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2002, 8:43 pm > > > > > > > > Given the recent kerfuffle going on at The Aerodrome is it any wonder? > Talk > > > about the Battle of the Titans! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... > > > > > > All the Best > > > > > > Neil > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4675 **********************