WWI Digest 4661 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Pegasus Decals by "Jamie Gagnon" 2) Re: Pegasus Decals by "Bob Pearson" 3) re: Pegasus Decals by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 4) Re: Pegasus Decals by "Jamie Gagnon" 5) Re: Pegasus Decals by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Things not to do, number 76. by "Mike Muth" 7) Re: Pegasus Decals by Morg17ms@aol.com 8) Re: Pegasus Decals by "Jamie Gagnon" 9) new product 61uZpV11bug72NovyK by new.product 10) Re: Another bookshop visit by David Fleming 11) Engine colour on the G.V by "Michael Kendix" 12) ×𾴵Ŀͻ§£º by syhua3000 13) Re: Things not to do, number 77 was number 76. by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 14) Re: Things not to do, number 76. by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 15) Inkjet decals by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 16) Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 17) Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 by "Michael Kendix" 18) Re: Inkjet decals by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 19) Re: Inkjet decals by Steven Perry 20) Re: Inkjet decals by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Inkjet decals by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 22) Re: Inkjet decals by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 23) Alcock Mouse by David Fleming 24) Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 by "Mike Muth" 25) Re: Inkjet decals by "Lee M." 26) Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 by "Lee M." 27) Re: Alcock Mouse by Volker Haeusler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:08:37 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <003701c26189$254221a0$5aaa3041@ktgc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi folks; Could anyone with some experience of them please give me their take on Pegasus decals. Particularly; The wood decals seem interesting as they are not the 'contour map' type that seems to get folks so riled up here. Has anyone used them? Are they okay? Their lozenge sheets are very expensive compared to Eagle Strike; is there enough extra lozenge to justify nearly double the price? What is the quality of the actual decals? Do they go on well? Snuggle down right? Are they strong or are they inclined to fall apart? Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:06:57 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <103262443901@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> So far I have used only Pegasus lozenge .. I like them. They are strong, go on well. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:11:54 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <009601c26189$9aa7d7a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Their lozenge sheets are very expensive compared to Eagle Strike; is there > enough extra lozenge to justify nearly double the price? Techmod makes good lozenge decals. Maybe the colours are a bit bright, but decent. Techmod made decals for the Eduard Albie D.V in 1/72. G. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:20:46 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <005301c2618a$d7c9c160$5aaa3041@ktgc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi Bob; How much lozenge is there on a sheet (1/48)? Eagle Strike/Aeromaster sheets seem to be able to cover 1 1/2 to 2 kits, is there substantially more on a Pegasus sheet? Jamie > So far I have used only Pegasus lozenge .. I like them. They are strong, go > on well. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:25:29 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <103262554701@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> I've only used the 1/72 so far, but I did the wings/tail on a Roland D.VI, SSW D.III and a Hannover CL.III with the one package. I think I have 1/48 of each, so I'll have to compare the packages and see if there is a difference in size between Pegasus and Aeromaster. Bob ---------- >From: "Jamie Gagnon" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Pegasus Decals >Date: Sat, Sep 21, 2002, 9:14 am > > Hi Bob; > > How much lozenge is there on a sheet (1/48)? Eagle Strike/Aeromaster sheets > seem to be able to cover 1 1/2 to 2 kits, is there substantially more on a > Pegasus sheet? > > Jamie > > >> So far I have used only Pegasus lozenge .. I like them. They are strong, > go >> on well. >> >> Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:39:20 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Things not to do, number 76. Message-ID: <001c01c2618d$71c034a0$56d8bacc@ptdprolog.net> > > Jamie! > > I always thought that axle "winglet" was plywood covered. But I'm not 100% > > sure. > > G. One maker split painting the winglet 1/2 mauve, 1/2 green. There are some good examples in the DVII Special. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:38:20 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: --part1_e5.1e41d457.2abe088c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie - I have used the Pegasus lozenge decals extensively and they are GREAT and worth every bit of the extra cost. They lay down snugly and securely with just water, but I have used setting solutions on them as well, without trouble. They are especially good for taking compound curves - I used 2 mm strips for all the edging of my Halberstadt and was amazed at how well the stuff stood up to the curves. I have found that the Eagle Strike doesn't do the curves as well, and is a little thicker. The Pegasus sheets are indeed larger too. All just my opinion........ Tom Morgan --part1_e5.1e41d457.2abe088c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie - I have used the Pegasus lozenge decals extensively and they are GREAT and worth every bit of the extra cost.  They lay down snugly and securely with just water, but I have used setting solutions on them as well, without trouble.  They are especially good for taking compound curves - I used 2 mm strips for all the edging of my Halberstadt and was amazed at how well the stuff stood up to the curves.  I have found that the Eagle Strike doesn't do the curves as well, and is a little thicker.  The Pegasus sheets are indeed larger too.   All just my opinion........

Tom Morgan --part1_e5.1e41d457.2abe088c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:57:05 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Decals Message-ID: <002401c261a0$adf56f40$5aaa3041@ktgc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi Tom; Thanks for the info. Jamie > Jamie - I have used the Pegasus lozenge decals extensively and they are GREAT > and worth every bit of the extra cost. They lay down snugly and securely > with just water, but I have used setting solutions on them as well, without > trouble. They are especially good for taking compound curves - I used 2 mm > strips for all the edging of my Halberstadt and was amazed at how well the > stuff stood up to the curves. I have found that the Eagle Strike doesn't do > the curves as well, and is a little thicker. The Pegasus sheets are indeed > larger too. All just my opinion........ > > Tom Morgan > > --part1_e5.1e41d457.2abe088c_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Jamie - I have used the Pegasus lozenge decals extensively and they are GREAT and worth every bit of the extra cost.  They lay down snugly and securely with just water, but I have used setting solutions on them as well, without trouble.  They are especially good for taking compound curves - I used 2 mm strips for all the edging of my Halberstadt and was amazed at how well the stuff stood up to the curves.  I have found that the Eagle Strike doesn't do the curves as well, and is a little thicker.  The Pegasus sheets are indeed larger too.   All just my opinion........
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Message-ID: ...... and attaching my left hand to the Polikarpovs fuselage. > >Doooooooooooooooooh! > > Yes, but at least there is no danger of you dropping it on your next sortie around the kitchen! I would, however, be interested to hear how you painted it one-handed... (let's stop the jokes right here). N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 10:40:49 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Things not to do, number 76. Message-ID: As they say in the ER, "how many hands am I holding up?" N >Thing not to do # 77: Don't wait until you have a model in one hand and >a loaded brush of paint in the other to grab for your Opti-Visor. > >sp -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 10:53:24 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Inkjet decals Message-ID: I have seen discussion in many places about printing decals. I can produce the artwork, but all the inkjet prints I have seen fade rather badly. What is the point of producing immaculate models with beautiful markings that will be faded in a matter of months. Comments, anyone? N Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:40:52 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 Message-ID: <000801c26235$49ada260$6553fea9@garmur> > I would, however, be interested to hear how you painted it one-handed... Actually I let out a primordial scream, threw it away after soaking the whole mess in acetone and started a new one. Then I spent an entire evening being chewed out for using up my girlfriends entire supply of nailpolish remover. But speaking of painting has anybody tried out the Revell "Master - Flexible" air brush? Is it any good and will a Gamma class Revell compressor be enough to run it properly? KR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:00:13 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 Message-ID: >From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) > >Actually I let out a primordial scream, threw it away after soaking >the >whole mess in acetone and started a new one. Then I spent an >entire >evening being chewed out for using up my girlfriends entire >supply of >nailpolish remover. I have my own bottle of NPR then SWMBO can't complain and has to come politely requesting to borrow mine. >But speaking of painting has anybody tried out the Revell "Master - > >Flexible" air brush? Is it any good and will a Gamma class Revell > >compressor be enough to run it properly? No but I am pleased I switched to a single action Passche H from a very fiddly double action Thayer & Chandler. The advantages are numerous: the main ones being a lot less clogging (I use mainly water-based acrylics), easier cleaning (only 2 main pieces plus the cup) and less expensive. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:56:51 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <002201c26237$85496be0$6553fea9@garmur> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Cheffers-Heard" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: [WWI] Inkjet decals > I have seen discussion in many places about printing decals. I can > produce the artwork, but all the inkjet prints I have seen fade > rather badly. What is the point of producing immaculate models with > beautiful markings that will be faded in a matter of months. It is a plot to get us all angry enough to start lobbying Alps to reissue that priter of theirs. Does anybody know anyone who can print custom decals for me? (I´ll pay of course!!!!! ) Either professionally or with an Alps printer??? Do Americal Gryphon or Blue Rider do custom jobs??? I have given up on inkjet decals and color laser printers cost more than I can afford. Cheers KR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:29:57 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <3D8DC5D5.7060505@tampabay.rr.com> >>I have seen discussion in many places about printing decals. I can >>produce the artwork, but all the inkjet prints I have seen fade >>rather badly. What is the point of producing immaculate models with >>beautiful markings that will be faded in a matter of months. Has anyone tried to use an inkjet decal as a pattern for painting the marking? Kinda like those paint by number kits I always made a hash of as a kid. Some markings might lend themselves to this treatment, I was wondering if anyone has tried it? sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:50:10 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <002401c2623e$f80ea940$66ac72d4@FRITZweb> Steven asked:> Has anyone tried to use an inkjet decal as a pattern for painting the > marking? Kinda like those paint by number kits I always made a hash of > as a kid. Yes, I did. I made a 'mailed fist' Jasta 5 for a Pegasus Albatros D V. I overpainted a 'first layer' of decal in white following the outlines given by the printed decal. Then a second layer, the black details, finished the fist. But I never excelled in making inkjet prints. All makes of paper I have used did not work properly. I am still using colour xerox copiers to make the decals. Main disadvantage: Transparent colours, no white. Prepainting a 'first layer' helps. No fading after years! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:09:12 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <000a01c26241$a8930980$6553fea9@garmur> > Has anyone tried to use an inkjet decal as a pattern for painting the > marking? Kinda like those paint by number kits I always made a hash of > as a kid. > > Some markings might lend themselves to this treatment, I was wondering > if anyone has tried it? Nice idea, I have tried it but quickly found out that one is better off using an airbrush, clear decal film and of course translucent electrical circuit papaer. By using multiple masking papers (pre drawn on a computer of course) and cutting out all areas with a common color sort of like a Japanese Wood Print you can get good resuts for things like letters and large art work containing 4-6 colors provided you get your alignment right. I however like to work in 1/72 which makes this approach hard to apply since it does not even begin to address such things as weights tables and intricate personal or unit markings. Also if you intend to attatch these decals to something like the corrugated surfaces of a Junkers J.I or D.I or perhaps an F.13 forget about it they are too stiff. Using this techiqe is also time consuming and has a high "Sc*ew it up" factor. I have often wondered if it was not possible set up a common project to do a generic sheet containing common things like Fokker weights tables Allied, German, KuK and Turkish serial numbers Nieuport tail tables (with a "make your own 111222333444 serial set") propeller logos, manufacturers decals, and all manner of other such seemingly unspectacular but important stuff like that. I know most of these things can be had on individual sheets but I would like a singe A5 or A4 sized sheet full of them for scrathc building or doing off beat markings. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:11:28 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <001101c26241$f1adf120$6553fea9@garmur> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Inkjet decals > Steven asked:> Has anyone tried to use an inkjet decal as a pattern for > painting the > > marking? Kinda like those paint by number kits I always made a hash of > > as a kid. > > Yes, I did. I made a 'mailed fist' Jasta 5 for a Pegasus Albatros D V. I > overpainted a 'first layer' of decal in white following the outlines given > by the printed decal. Then a second layer, the black details, finished the > fist. > > But I never excelled in making inkjet prints. All makes of paper I have used > did not work properly. I am still using colour xerox copiers to make the > decals. Main disadvantage: Transparent colours, no white. Prepainting a > 'first layer' helps. No fading after years! Is there really no Color copyer that does white toner even after all these years!! KR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:51:38 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Alcock Mouse Message-ID: <3D8DD8F9.7B37A429@dial.pipex.com> Having won the ebay auction for the incomplete Sopwith Triplane kit (£1 was the winning bid), I am trying to work out how to turn it into the Alcock Scout (Sopwith Mouse), x-kitting with an Airfix Pup (Art imitating life). I have two photos taken from starboard, on side on, one rear 3/4 and a description that it had a Triplane lower wing and a 'modified Pup' upper wing. One source suggests a new centre section on the upper wing (the lower wing must have had this as it sat below the fuselage Brisfits style). Anyone know if Windsock or others have ever covered this one ? And if so, could anyone scan the articles for me ? TIA David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:26:25 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 Message-ID: <004801c2624c$6c2cb120$56d8bacc@ptdprolog.net> Been using the Paasche H for 3 years now. Close to idiot proof. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kendix No but I am pleased I switched to a single action Passche H from a very > fiddly double action Thayer & Chandler. The advantages are numerous: the > main ones being a lot less clogging (I use mainly water-based acrylics), > easier cleaning (only 2 main pieces plus the cup) and less expensive. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 10:51:49 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Inkjet decals Message-ID: <026401c2624f$f6ffe8a0$9e4d39cc@mesystem> They now have photo quality inks that will last for more than 25 years.. The original printing of Decals by home computer used a "multi" color ribbon cartridge loading machine that was permanent. Thats why there was all the weeping and gnashing of teeth since that particular printer is no longer sold or supported in the States. It was a bit pricey but did a fabulous job. Oddly enough it is still sold in Europe. Lee M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Cheffers-Heard" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:49 AM Subject: [WWI] Inkjet decals > I have seen discussion in many places about printing decals. I can > produce the artwork, but all the inkjet prints I have seen fade > rather badly. What is the point of producing immaculate models with > beautiful markings that will be faded in a matter of months. > Comments, anyone? > N > Nigel Cheffers-Heard > photography + design > > tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 > fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 > mobile: 0771 261 4514 > nigelch@cheffers.co.uk > www.cheffers.co.uk > > Laburnums, Bridge Hill > Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 10:59:36 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 Message-ID: <027f01c26251$0d469e00$9e4d39cc@mesystem> I have used the Paasche model H since 1963 and still conser it, "with all three tips # 1-3 and 5.." to be one of the finest and easy to use air brushes available. Best of all Paasche is a Customer Service oriented company and do a great job in all that implies. Located in Chicago. They will be more helpful than most of any ten other companies. I have three different models of their airbrushes and would never change to any other brand. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Muth" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Revell air brushes - was - Re: Things not to do, number 77 > Been using the Paasche H for 3 years now. Close to idiot proof. > Mike Muth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Kendix > No but I am pleased I switched to a single action Passche H from a very > > fiddly double action Thayer & Chandler. The advantages are numerous: the > > main ones being a lot less clogging (I use mainly water-based acrylics), > > easier cleaning (only 2 main pieces plus the cup) and less expensive. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:54:44 -0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Alcock Mouse Message-ID: <000901c262ce$33b23fe0$0301a8c0@com1> David, > Anyone know if Windsock or others have ever covered this one ? And if > so, could anyone scan the articles for me ? > > TIA > > David > There´s a short piece on the Alcock A 1 or Mouse in JM Bruce´s "Warplanes of the 1st WW" vol 1, which includes a three view. In total I am aware of 3 photos of the A 1 - a port and a starboard 3/4 view and a port side view - not sure whether it´s the same photo you mention, but printed reverse. I can´t remember anything on this aircraft in Windsock, but wasn´t there an article in an older "Aeroplane Monthly"? I can send a scan if I get this §$\'# scanner working- but at least I´m back online from home as well. Volker ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4661 **********************