WWI Digest 4659 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: re Roden Strutters by "tsollers" 2) Re: re Roden Strutters by Allan Wright 3) Re: re Roden Strutters by "Michael Kendix" 4) Re: re Roden Strutters by "Jamie Gagnon" 5) Eduard Nieuports Blah blah blah by "NEIL EDDY" 6) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by "David's Mail" 7) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 8) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: Another bookshop visit by "Bob Pearson" 10) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 11) Re: Another bookshop visit by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by PetersList@aol.com 13) More Goodies-Special Hobby Spad VII & Lloyd C.V in 1/48th by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 14) Staaken R.VI Datafile by "Courtney Allen" 15) Re: Another bookshop visit by Paul Thompson 16) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 17) Re: OT: Lawrence of Arabia's Motorcycles by "Mark Shannon" 18) Re: OT: Lawrence of Arabia's Motorcycles by "Dave Burke" 19) ot help with photo id. by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 20) Last RFC pilot by David Fleming 21) Machine gun drawings by Tom Plesha 22) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by "Brent Theobald" 23) Re: Last RFC pilot by "Brent Theobald" 24) Re: Eduard Nieuports Blah blah blah by DNSH@aol.com 25) Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles by "Brent Theobald" 26) Re: Another bookshop visit by "Mike Muth" 27) Re: Another bookshop visit by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 28) Fw: Last RFC pilot by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= 29) Re: OT electronics allert by "Thomas Solinski" 30) Eduard N11 - Guynemer N836 by Larry Marshall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:30:44 -0400 From: "tsollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: re Roden Strutters Message-ID: <200209201530.g8KFUlH22695@mail.bcpl.net> Paul: > The main sprues seem to be in clear plastic, and there is a small PE fret included. Definately interesting. I took a look. http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/402.htm Clear plastic wings. Way cool! A very intelligent approach to the translucent wing effect. However, the plastic MAY have slightly different handling characteristics. In my experience clear plastic tends to be a bit brittle and crystaline in nature. We'll see. Thanks for the update. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:36:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: re Roden Strutters Message-ID: <200209201536.LAA65712@mustang.sr.unh.edu> I have a Pegasus strutter I built that had a clear top wing for this reason. The plastic was a little brittle, but the effect was worth the extra effort to work with the material. Al > > Paul: > > > The main sprues seem to be in clear plastic, and there is a small PE fret > included. Definately interesting. > > I took a look. > > http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/402.htm > > Clear plastic wings. Way cool! A very intelligent approach to the > translucent wing effect. However, the plastic MAY have slightly different > handling characteristics. In my experience clear plastic tends to be a bit > brittle and crystaline in nature. We'll see. > > Thanks for the update. > > Tom > > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:55:22 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: re Roden Strutters Message-ID: >From: Allan Wright > >I have a Pegasus strutter I built that had a clear top wing for this > >reason. The plastic was a little brittle, but the effect was worth the > >extra effort to work with the material. OK, one clear part for the top wing I understand but how easy was it to fill seams for a kit made of this stuff? Has anyone attempted something similar even in an off-topic kit? Also, given the slightly more brittle nature of the plastic, how do the detail bits work out? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:04:36 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Re: re Roden Strutters Message-ID: <000701c260bf$6cebadc0$5aaa3041@ktgc.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi Allan; How did you paint the clear wing so as to maintain the translucent effect? Jamie > I have a Pegasus strutter I built that had a clear top wing for this reason. > The plastic was a little brittle, but the effect was worth the extra > effort to work with the material. > > Al > > > > > Paul: > > > > > The main sprues seem to be in clear plastic, and there is a small PE fret > > included. Definately interesting. > > > > I took a look. > > > > http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/402.htm > > > > Clear plastic wings. Way cool! A very intelligent approach to the > > translucent wing effect. However, the plastic MAY have slightly different > > handling characteristics. In my experience clear plastic tends to be a bit > > brittle and crystaline in nature. We'll see. > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:08:07 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Eduard Nieuports Blah blah blah Message-ID: <001d01c260bf$e90c1b60$2c2432d2@default> Dan et al... I'm not sure why I'm bothering to write this....I feel strangely compelled... In the original post (you know they one you wanted us to read carefully?) Comments were made that this acontextual critique should be published widely to alert modellers to the defects in the decal sheet. This was and is my mine gripe. Please also pay attention to my points (3), (4) and (5). It is easy to take parts of an argument and use them to suit yourself and ignore others important to the argument. Earlier Steve made a point about the GMW webstore debate and brought up Jastagate. My point (which you saliently seem unable to grasp) is that information such as this critique is a similar case and should be used wisely and with responsibility. If you want to continue this debate, please do so off list....I think its getting kinda boring otherwise. Signing off Neil E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:16:58 -0500 From: "David's Mail" To: Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: <00c501c260c1$25825bd0$5960d918@Jeanne> That's ok, I thought he rode a Vincent ----- Original Message ----- From: "ibs4421" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles > Hmmm, as I understood it, I thought Lawrence rode an Enfield. I was > misinformed. > > Warren > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:23:24 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: I think it were a Vincent Black Shadow (Diego, find the deliberate mistake!!!!!) N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:32:43 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: <006301c260c3$586fb400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> It WAS a Brough? ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Cheffers-Heard" > I think it were a Vincent Black Shadow > > (Diego, find the deliberate mistake!!!!!) > > N ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:29:31 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another bookshop visit Message-ID: <103254044702@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> At some point I'll get around to doing the dragodile (my word BTW, and NOT what it was known by in WWI) up on the computer (and make some decals -I have a Meikraft C.III, although I traded my Eduard kit away). I still have the original drawings I did of it .. however I sold the original paintings to a fellow in the US for a nice sum of cash - paid for my trip to Casa Karr last year. Bob ---------- >From: "Diego Fernetti" > > Neil! >> A 2-seat Albie should be in any WW1 collection, the CIII is the Bohme >> one with the dragon, another good reason:-) > > Have you seen the artwork on the WW1 website with the correct styles of > "dragodiles" of both sides? Do you have the Pegasus kit? I have one but I > poked a hole open on the fuselage side trying to thin its walls. Another > "damaged" for my score! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:51:16 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: You definitely speak SUPERIOR English!!! N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:55:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Another bookshop visit Message-ID: <00aa01c260c6$98150260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> And I am the proud owner of a signed reproduction of the painting! It's framed and prepared to hang from the walls of my future home. BTW, I tried to send you a couple of messages from my hotmail account offlist and they keep bouncing. Have you received any Emails from me? If not, double thanks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" > At some point I'll get around to doing the dragodile (my word BTW, and NOT > what it was known by in WWI) up on the computer (and make some decals -I > have a Meikraft C.III, although I traded my Eduard kit away). I still have > the original drawings I did of it .. however I sold the original paintings > to a fellow in the US for a nice sum of cash - paid for my trip to Casa Karr > last year. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:54:57 EDT From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: <129.17c702b2.2abcace1@aol.com> As the man himselfe is definitely OT I hope the following news item from 1997 won't be considered amiss: "Lawrence of Arabia's Motorcycle For Sale" "Lawrence of Arabia (T.E. Lawrence), an ardent motorcyclist, owned a succession of Brough motorcycles which he would often ride up to 500 miles a day, an astonishing feat considering the road conditions of the 1920's and 30's. He had a new Brough awaiting delivery when he was killed. Motorcycle Online go on to say (20/6/97) The Brough Superior motorcycle that noted author T.E Lawrence, a.k.a. Lawrence of Arabia, was killed on while riding in 1935 was offered up for sale last week. John Truss, acting on behalf of the bike's current owner, who wants to remain anonymous, said they have been offered up to $3.3 million for "the world's most famous and romantic motorcycle." Lawrence was riding the 1000cc Brough back to his cottage in England on May 13, 1935 when he apparently highsided the bike after trying to avoid two boys on bicycles. He died in a nearby hospital six days later from injuries suffered in the crash. Lawrence was a keen motorcyclist who owned seven of the famed Brough bikes. After his accident, the bike was returned to the factory where it was repaired and sold. It has been owned by a motorcycle historian in southern England for the past 20 years who now wants to sell it because of failing health. " "Experts say that a Brough in the same condition as Lawrence's - but without its history - could fetch up to $85,000. There are only an estimated 1,000 or so Broughs still surviving, but the $3 million price tag for Lawrence's machine has raised some eyebrows. Truss said he had recently turned down an offer of $2.5 million from an American collector for the bike." "On the 13th of May 1935 Lawrence crashed Boanerges only a short distance from the cottage at Clouds Hill in which he revised his masterpiece "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" whilst serving as a private in the Tank Corps at Bovington in the 1930s." I was privilidged to throw my leg over a Brough in Ardglass Co Down thirty years ago. The chap who owned it also had a Scott Flying Squirrel. I offered to trade the 1949 Speed Twin I was riding at the time but no dice. I hate him! cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:57:34 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: More Goodies-Special Hobby Spad VII & Lloyd C.V in 1/48th Message-ID: Hi All, I don't know how Earl at NKR does it, but 9 DAYS after I placed my order, the package arrived here on Long Island(East Coast of the US) from Australia!!! All I can say is if you like 1/48 scale, get these kits. I will probably get one or two more Spads for my collection. While I haven't laid out the kit on any drawings, it certainly seems to have captured the lines of a 7. Looking right is close enough for me and these kits look like they will go together nice and easy. Rib detail is good, the resin parts and photoetch are terrific. The only not so hot stuff is, as was mentioned by someone earlier, the struts, but in this scale they are easy enough to make out of strut stock or bamboo. It's going to be nice to see these next to the Heller 7 and compare the size!! The Lloyd is also a beauty!! The wings look great as they are smooth to capture the wood veneer that was planked over them. I compared this kit to the Sierra Scale kit(also a beauty) and they seem exact. Again, resin and photoetch are superb. Considering that 3 kits(2 Spads & 1 Lloyd) cost right around $45USD WITH Economy Air shipping, are this nice and arrived in 9 days, I'd call these a bargain at an average cost of $15USD each!! Let me know if you have any questions about them. The ususal "no interests, relations, blah, blah, blah. ; ) Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:14:33 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Staaken R.VI Datafile Message-ID: <002901c260c9$31621640$6948510c@oemcomputer> For those interested the new Datefile, Staaken R.VI is out. Hannants has it up on their web page http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=WSDA95 Courtney Allen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:20:06 +0200 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another bookshop visit Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020920201710.00a3cb00@pop.xs4all.nl> Diego is absolutely right, Flying Fury is excellent stuff. Paul T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:44:48 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: Ahem, may I show my English ignorance, and ask what "highsided" means in biking context? On another tack, my late father-in-law was in the Forces with TE, and described going out riding with him. I asked him what it was like, and he said "let's just say you wouldn't follow him too closely into a corner"... N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:14:06 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence of Arabia's Motorcycles Message-ID: Nigel Cheffers-Heard revealed: >Ahem, may I show my English ignorance, and ask what "highsided" means >in biking context? I thought this was the English phrase. I think it is what we call in the US 'laying the bike down' or ending up skidding down the pavement on the bike's side. Typically the rider's leg and hip protect some of the bright metal by sacrificing themselves underneath. It is a good way to rupture major blood vessels, lose most of the muscle in the outer leg, and have multiple chances to be impaled on bits of bike. In addition, broken femurs and pelvises are common, depending on the speed. No helmet can really put the final touches on. Given T.E. Lawrence's predilection for high velocity and no helmet, it would not surprise me that he suffered fatal levels of injuries. Sorry to be so graphic, but one of the most famous of WWI heros went out this way after a post-war life of searching for something that eluded him. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:16:06 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence of Arabia's Motorcycles Message-ID: <002801c260e2$8db63840$1ceb79a5@s0024008072> > Nigel Cheffers-Heard revealed: > > >Ahem, may I show my English ignorance, and ask what "highsided" means > >in biking context? > > I thought this was the English phrase. I think it is what we call in the US 'laying the bike down' or ending up skidding down the pavement on the bike's side. Nope. 'Laying down' and 'high-siding' are two different things. They both involve a wreck, but 'laying the bike down' means basically that in the skid, the bike is going first, the rider after it. In a 'high-side', the rider is literally thrown off of the bike first, and the bike follows him. The high-side is the worst, as it results more in broken bones and severe trauma - it is much more violent. A laydown usually results in road rash. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:05:04 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: ot help with photo id. Message-ID: <20020920210504.97E3234A77@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, I just visited a local market which is mainly for car enthusiasts. Besides picking up some useful modelling tools dirt cheap, there was an ot aircraft photograph for sale along with medals etc. Even if this wasn`t one of my main interests, I decided to buy it. The b/w photograph shows the nose of a Liberator or Privateer. On the natural metal, there is a fantastic nose art showing a cow called the "Bovine Blunder" and with the motto: "What`s production without transportation!" The photograph probably originated from an estate sale in Dallas, Texas. Is there someone on the list who can can help me with identifying the unit or point me towards a source of info? I have made a scan of it (32kB) that I can send to those who are willing to help me with an educated guess. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:07:48 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Last RFC pilot Message-ID: <3D8B8E24.8E7FBAA1@dial.pipex.com> Picked this one up on uk.rec.aviation In today's 'Daily Mail' there is an obituary to Hurbert Williams aged 106. He was the last surviving Royal Flying Corps pilot. He joined in 1915 when the life expectancy was about 3 weeks. He was flying until 1917 when he was shot down over Macedonia and badly injured. He rejoined the RAF in WW2 in training and finally left as a squadron leader. In his 100th year he sat at the controls of Concorde. The RAF will pay him a special tribute by laying a wreath with the Royal Flying Corps badge at his funeral next week. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi Subject: Machine gun drawings Message-ID: <20020920214636.69833.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All- .. Anybody know a source of scale drawings for a Schwarzlose mg m7/12 or a m16? .. I have the Woodman book. .. Later & TIA Tom __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:16:44 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: Howdy! I found this... http://www.motorcycle.net.au/smw/brough97.htm After researching Brough motorcycles for the last day or so I am considering selling my entire stash and buying one. I told Tina it would save space... She agreed it would indeed increase space seeing as all my crap will be out of her house if I consider purchasing a $64,000 motorcycle. Love, ain't it grand? Later! Brent Uh oh... OT content: Roll Models is offering a free Eduard E.III for one lucky voter in the current online contest. http://www.rollmodels.net >From: "Diego Fernetti" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT) > >It WAS a Brough? ;-) >D. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nigel Cheffers-Heard" > > > > I think it were a Vincent Black Shadow > > > > (Diego, find the deliberate mistake!!!!!) > > > > N _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:26:16 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Last RFC pilot Message-ID: Howdy! Wow! I am truly amazed at the lives some people have led. It makes our lives devoid of risk seem mundane. Do you think he would have traded? Would we? Later! Brent >From: David Fleming >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Last RFC pilot >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:24:15 -0400 (EDT) > >Picked this one up on uk.rec.aviation > >In today's 'Daily Mail' there is an obituary to Hurbert Williams aged >106. He >was the last surviving Royal Flying Corps pilot. He joined in 1915 when >the life >expectancy was about 3 weeks. He was flying until 1917 when he was shot >down >over Macedonia and badly injured. He rejoined the RAF in WW2 in training >and >finally left as a squadron leader. In his 100th year he sat at the >controls of >Concorde. The RAF will pay him a special tribute by laying a wreath with >the >Royal Flying Corps badge at his funeral next week. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:54:00 -0400 From: DNSH@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: se5a@iprimus.com.au Subject: Re: Eduard Nieuports Blah blah blah Message-ID: <61D158A2.5AE3B2E4.00002AB9@aol.com> Okay, here we go again. Unfortunately Neil, you are misrepresenting the "original" post once again. Mr. Chassard simply offers that "if interested, these comments may be published in the web pages of Internet Modeler." That is hardly a request that his "critique" (your words) be widely published. Mr. Bittner merely suggests that he will make available the the review should "CBR or Bob" want to include it in their kit reviews. So basically the basis of your main gripe didn't exist in the first place. Regarding your points (3), (4) and (5), I didn't entirely disagree with you. I did take exception to the comment that Mr. Chassard was only out for "expert brownie points." I too believe that Eduard has been responsive to modelers. Mr. Chassard has his own business to run and does not have a responsibility to Eduard, but he does have enough regard for the list to provide the information to us so we can build a better model. In reality, you could have forwarded the decal comments to Eduard just as easily as Mr. Chassard. Doing so would have been more valid on your part because you are the consumer. Next, you state, "It is easy to take parts of an argument and use them to suit yourself and ignore others important to the argument." I submit that this is exactly what you did with the original post. Nowhere did I misquote you. I only responded to your misrepresentations. You further claim, "My point (which you saliently seem unable to grasp) is that information such as this critique is a similar case and should be used wisely and with responsibility." I had no trouble understanding your point at all. I took exception to you misrepresenting the original post. Nobody claimed that they were going to use the post in an attempt to bring about the downfall of Eduard. Nor was there a call for the boycott of Eduard's kit. It seems most listees understood the spirit of the original post, but you clearly did not. Finally, I will continue this debate anywhere I want. Your boredom doesn't dictate my actions. Only Mr. Wright and Mr. Bittner can make the call to take an issue off list. Should they do so, I'll respect their request. Dan Hartz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:53:06 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles Message-ID: Howdy! D.B. illustrated the difference between the high and low side pretty well. Niether is a good thing, but given a choice a low side is preferable... As too following TE into a curve. That means TE rode FAST and skillfully. One of the most common crashes is when a slower, less skilled rider follows a better rider into a turn. The following rider gets in trouble quickly because he isn't setting his own pace. He's riding at the skilled riders pace. (Danger Will Robinson!) Anyhow, if any of you folks have or know of a Brough Superior getting dusty in a nearby barn please let me know. Let's make a deal! Failing that, are there any models of these beautiful machines? Brent >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: OT: Lawrence or Aribia's Motorcycles >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:47:18 -0400 (EDT) > >Ahem, may I show my English ignorance, and ask what "highsided" means >in biking context? >On another tack, my late father-in-law was in the Forces with TE, and >described going out riding with him. I asked him what it was like, >and he said "let's just say you wouldn't follow him too closely into >a corner"... >N >-- >Nigel Cheffers-Heard >photography + design > >tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 >fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 >mobile: 0771 261 4514 >nigelch@cheffers.co.uk >www.cheffers.co.uk > >Laburnums, Bridge Hill >Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:30:23 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Another bookshop visit Message-ID: <009401c260fd$b1a702a0$56d8bacc@ptdprolog.net> BTW Wanda told me a few days ago that we might buy a beagle pup in the > future I got a beagle pup last year. Be ready to spend a lot of time giving the pup attention. They crave it. Also, their bark is really weird, more of a howl. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:49:49 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Another bookshop visit Message-ID: <01aa01c26100$686c0880$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Subject: [WWI] Re: Another bookshop visit > BTW Wanda told me a few days ago that we might buy a beagle pup in the > > future > I got a beagle pup last year. Be ready to spend a lot of time giving the pup > attention. They crave it. Also, their bark is really weird, more of a howl. > Mike Muth So in Argie land and in US you buy the pups in a bookshop? Weird. We, on the Old Continent... ;-) G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:25:23 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=DCE?= To: "WWI List" Subject: Fw: Last RFC pilot Message-ID: <007b01c26105$60a5bb00$7126e818@fibertel.com.ar> Sorry Listees my e-mail is crazy!!!!!! Martín H. Afflitto Echagüe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:37:07 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: OT electronics allert Message-ID: <009001c26107$040b25e0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> John there were two copies and you were request no 3. sorry Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Huggins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: OT electronics allert > Thomas, > If there are several copies, please pick me up one. I am using a MAC > and will be running it on a PC emulator, so there is not a real need > for the game. If you have more requests from PC users than copies > available, let the PC guys have them. > > Let me know if you need an address and where to send the payment if a > copy is available. > > Thanks > John > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 07:35 PM, Thomas Solinski wrote: > > For those of you who may desire the best in OT computer games. My > local > Ross store has a BRAND NEW copy of Red Barron 3D still sealed for $6.99 > US. > I'm willing to pick it up for you for cost and mailing > > Mr T. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:48:22 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Eduard N11 - Guynemer N836 Message-ID: <200209202048.22189.larrym@sympatico.ca> Have you guys seen the beautiful N11 in v30 of Wingmasters? It's based on the Eduard N11 and the guy does a beautiful job (in my opinion) of capturing the pale blue, shading it to provide evidence of the underlying framework. The model is magnificent. Consistent with Marc Chassard's comments, the builder (Antonio Bohorquez) used the Eduard roundels but he had to produce his own "Le Vieux Charles" for the right side. His treatment of castor stains is particularly striking. His interior work is also magnificent. Heck...you'd think Lance built this one (grin). If you need an extra push to get you to buy the new double kit, this might be it. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4659 **********************