WWI Digest 4614 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: strip stretching by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: Back Issues of Over the Front by ssh 3) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 4) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 5) Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by Larry Marshall 6) Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by Karen Rychlewski 7) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 8) Caudron G.3 (was Re:Re:strip stretching) by Larry Marshall 9) Re: strip stretching by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 10) Re: gotha g.v lozenge by "Lance Krieg" 11) RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching by Shane Weier 12) Emhar A7V by Dave F 13) Larry's "jig" (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Emhar A7V by "Matt Bittner" 15) Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by Larry Marshall 16) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 17) RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching by Larry Marshall 18) Re: Larry's "jig" (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by Larry Marshall 19) Re: Emhar A7V by Larry Marshall 20) Re: Emhar A7V by Peter Mullin 21) Re: gotha g.v lozenge by "Michael Kendix" 22) RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching by Shane Weier 23) Re: Back Issues of Over the Front by "Dave Burke" 24) Re: Emhar A7V by Larry Marshall 25) Re: gotha g.v lozenge by Larry Marshall 26) Re: Emhar A7V by Steven Perry 27) Re: Back Issues of Over the Front by "Mike Muth" 28) Re: Emhar A7V by "Matt Bittner" 29) Hannants by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 30) Re: Back Issues of Over the Front by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 31) Re: Emhar A7V by Larry Marshall 32) Re: gotha g.v lozenge by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:26:47 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <00b401c24f81$41170b80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > > So you started building french! ""Bwahahaha!" > > I've not understood what Bwahahaha means so I'm not sure if it's is a positive > or negative. It depends! ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:25:49 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: Re: Back Issues of Over the Front Message-ID: <3D6DFF12000203F2@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Also try Icarus books http://www.icarusbooks.com/ww1.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:12:56 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291412.56054.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Don't ever dream that they all will look the same once finished! The whole > wing method should be consistent to achieve uniformity. Of course not. They'll be different heights, different widths and different shapes. Ultimately I'll throw it away just like those little pieces of bent plastic at the end of my stretched strip :-) > Feel lucky I still haven't had to cut your fingers off or break your arm. > Persuasion has its rewards. I simply take that to mean that you really wanted me to succeed :-) > He also stretchs those thick strut material to get fine struts for his 1/72 > oeuvres. The possibilities are endless! He makes regular reference to stretching to produce interior details and it makes perfect sense if you can control the process well enough to maintain the cross section. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:21:23 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291421.23887.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Thursday 29 August 2002 13:27, you wrote: > > > So you started building french! ""Bwahahaha!" > > > > I've not understood what Bwahahaha means so I'm not sure if it's is a > positive or negative. > > It depends! ;-) Bwahahaha! Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:05:58 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208291405.58945.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Larry, that is an act of genius ! And like all acts of genius, it's the > sheer simplicity of it that makes it special ! Could be but it's someone else's genius. There is a commercial version of it, available from Great Planes. That one is specifically designed for building stick-n-tissue models and uses special magnet/clamps. It's also expensive. My approach cost me just a few bucks and with a bit of imagination it's much more flexible in use. I'm still putzing around, trying to find its uses in plastics modeling. One little thing I did with it last night was fix a couple broken struts from a Toko Snipe. I laid one piece next to a long piece of magnet that would maintain alignment of both pieces, trapped the first piece by sliding a small magnet up on its opposite side, and then laid the other strut piece in place. A drop of liquid cement and the requisite wait and the strut was as good as new. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:41:47 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <3D6E6AEA.4498BCA5@earthlink.net> Larry, I've been following the discussion about constructing the booms on the Caudron G.3 and I'd like to pop in to correct a couple of misunderstandings you have about Andrei's PE method: > >From looking at his model I believe that he glued plastic to the p/e to get > the required depth. I believe his goal was to create two identical set of > booms by using two identical p/e pieces. Obviously this needs to happen > somehow, either his way or by using some sort of jig system. I just feel > that it's far easier to set up a jig than deal with creating p/e and then > having to carefully sand the added plastic to it. > > Again, I have yet to actually do this but it looks quite easy. ... You're only half correct in guessing Andrei's goal: yes, his use of PE created two identical pieces, but the *big* advantage is the strength imparted by the one-piece PE framework. Regardless of how many additional pieces are glued to the PE, the continuous metal inside keeps everything in place not only on the worktable, but also afterwards when you have to pick up the booms and handle them to attach them to the wings, do the rigging, etc. I speak from experience: I did a 1/72 G.3 before Andrei built his and I used a jig to form the booms--believe me, when built from separate longerons and struts, the dang things are downright floppy until the rigging is finished. And, it's a Herculean labor to get the rigging in place at all with the booms sagging and distorting from the tension. I think you'll find it's not *quite* as easy as it looks. If the sets that Barry had of Andrei's PE booms are still around, I'd suggest you'd do well to pick one up. Incidentally, the newer alternative to PE booms would be to use square cross-section carbon fiber rods, which are at least rigid along their length. And, no, I don't know where to get them--I got some from another listee about a year ago. I think they're used by RC modelers, so you may know what I'm referring to. BTW, Andrei has 'gone missing' from the list for a while due to family responsibilities (which is also why he wasn't at the Nats), but you could do worse than to add him to your list of 'modeling gods'. :-) Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:13:54 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291713.54651.larrym@sympatico.ca> Ok...I played rather than worked. I think this is going to be a lot easier than I imagined. Realize that this 'wing' I'm playing with isn't targeted for a real model and thus its surface isn't sanded as smooth as it should be. That's not the point but I don't want you to think I'd actually use it with all those scratches in it :-) Anyways, I decided that I needed my rib spacing exactly 1/4" cuz I happened to have some .010" x.25" laying on the bench. Probably the most critical thing here is getting the first scribe perpendicular to the leading edge. While I would normally spend some time with this process, in this case I just eye-balled it. Once a line is scribed I just lay the plastic down along that line and scribe a new one on the other side of the plastic strip. Here's a staged photo after the fact to show how I used the magnetic board to hold things and how I held the spacing strip. http://www3.sympatico.ca/larrym/images/scribe_rib.jpg Now to the hard part. How to line up these fragile 'ribs.' Well, it turns out that's easy too. Take a look at this photo and you'll see that, without any hands in play, a 'rib' (colored so you can see it) is sitting in place waiting for your favorite method of attachment. It's being held quite tight to the wing surface by the two magnets. The undercamber side will probably be more difficult. It's very easy to place it because I just dropped a magnet on one end with that end lined up, pulled on it like a string and dropped it onto the scribed line, placing a magnet to hold that end. http://www3.sympatico.ca/larrym/images/ribplace.jpg Now that I've used a felt pen to color a rib, I'm wondering whether I can just get a nice brown color and color them just like the decal paper versions. On to looking at adhesive methods.....To infinity and beyond....... Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:27:47 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Caudron G.3 (was Re:Re:strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208291727.47744.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Simple, effective, cheap. Wonderful! I use it a lot. > As an aside... is that a copy of the Caudron Datafile drawings? Yes, indeed. Nicely done too. Complete with cockpit interior framing drawings (top & both sides) and placement of the seats. The rear seat looks like a sofa relative to the front one. Pilots did rank higher than observers :-) > that they're signed by M. Digmayer... great! > I can't wait to have my own book copy! It's a nice one. > yeah I already ordered it. To h*ll the money for the apartment drapes. Sun > is good. I'm no shy neither. Agreed, there's always newspapers. Cheers --- Larry - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:25:48 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <00bd01c24f9a$443e80e0$44dae2c8@computador> Larry said: *** All I know is that I've decided to sacrifice my Spad wing to the experimental gods *** Well, I'm sacrificing whole Revell Fokker triplanes to practice streaked camouflage, test Future, and now the red plastic will discover the Tamiya scriber and the decal solutions :-) and sooner or later it will also meet the airbrush... All the best from Brazil Marcio (Reuters is tiring but funny) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:39:34 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: gotha g.v lozenge Message-ID: Michael wants to know: "...which of the Americal/Gryphon sheets is the correct one for the 5-colour hand-painted irregular hexagonal thingies in 1/72nd scale." Number 23; you'll need two to cover the whole thing, per the instructions for dink-scale. Note that sheet 4 is the night-bomber pre-printed fabric in 1/72. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 07:46:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958F1B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP says: > That brings to mind an interesting point. We modelers, as a group tend > to gloss over two things when we discuss or write about building. We > don't emphasise the amount of practice/experimentation and just plain > bumbling about that it takes to go from reading about a new technique to > getting good enough with it to help make a model better. Neither do we > make a big deal about how many imperfect attempts must be tossed to get > the one, two or a few usable results. Oh, I dunno. If you read *any* description by me of the trials of constructing any model, it'll be filled with the reprise - "I made x items so that I could have x/10 items worth using" (actually, I think I made in the order of 20 cowls for the Biff :-( ) SP is absolutely right, patience and persistance are the least seen but most used ingredients in the vast majority of quality models Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:07:53 +0100 From: Dave F To: Subject: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <1030658873.3d6e9b3937805@netmail.pipex.net> Not seen the kit yet, but just to tease Matt, http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=EM5003 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:25:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Larry's "jig" (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: Looking at Larry's "jig" I can but wonder how we have modeled without it. Excellent job, Larry. Thanks for showing how you did it. Now to work on one for me... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:27:51 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:09:00 -0400 (EDT), Dave F wrote: > Not seen the kit yet, but just to tease Matt, > > http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=EM5003 Gee, Dave. I already posted about this kit - last week! Slacker. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:36:49 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208291836.49585.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Larry, I've been following the discussion about constructing the booms on > the Caudron G.3 and I'd like to pop in to correct a couple of > misunderstandings you Thanks for jumping in. > You're only half correct in guessing Andrei's goal: yes, his use of PE > created two identical pieces, but the *big* advantage is the strength > imparted by the one-piece PE framework. Regardless of how many additional > pieces are glued to the PE, the continuous metal inside keeps everything in I really don't follow the 'one-piece = strength' view, though I suppose it depends on how you make your joints. Certainly they need to be well-made. In my case, I will make the struts from .020" carbon rod with plastic attached to form the strut shape. that rod will run top to bottom and fit into holes in whatever I use for the longerons (see below) > etc. I speak from experience: I did a 1/72 G.3 before Andrei built his and > I used a jig to form the booms--believe me, when built from separate > longerons and struts, the dang things are downright floppy until the > rigging is finished. And, it's a Herculean labor to get the rigging in I won't proceed unless each of the side pieces is stiff. I'm not good enough to do it otherwise. I had an email dialog about this with Michael last week and the reason I'm trying plastic is that he suggested that it would be strong enough and I'm not experienced enough to doubt him unless I try it...or hear from Karen who's done it :-) Waiting in the wings, however, is 1/32"sq basswood and 1/32"sq brass. > If the sets that Barry had of Andrei's PE booms are still around, I'd > suggest you'd do well to pick one up. Maybe it's stubborn, maybe it's just not my style. I still don't see the point. I may change my tune if I can't get nice stiff boom structures but surely solid brass longerons with carbon rod pinned into it for the cross-struts will be stronger than any PE solution. > Incidentally, the newer alternative to PE booms would be to use square > cross-section carbon fiber rods, which are at least rigid along their You're right, this would be a good solution. So far, however, I haven't found a local source and I don't want to have to order a pile of CF for this small project. Part of the trials of living at the end of the earth. > BTW, Andrei has 'gone missing' from the list for a while due to family > responsibilities (which is also why he wasn't at the Nats), but you could > do worse than to add him to your list of 'modeling gods'. :-) Maybe not god status but I sure do like his models. His G.3 is my current computer background. I'd love to talk with him about how he gets the nice weathered look on his CDL. The ever-present photo helps me keep the goal in mind while I'm diddling with these tiny pieces of plastic :-) So many models, so little time. I started cutting out the parts fo my Polish Rumpler C1 by the way (Joystick). Target is to build something that looks vaguely like your masterpiece. > Dame Karen Not Goddess Karen? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:38:54 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291838.54668.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Well, I'm sacrificing whole Revell Fokker triplanes to practice streaked > camouflage, test Future, and now the red plastic will discover the Tamiya > scriber and the decal solutions :-) and sooner or later it will also meet > the airbrush... Fun, isn't it? I've got that streaked camo ahead of me. There's an early DVII I want to do. I wonder how it would look as living room walls? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:50:23 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291850.23123.larrym@sympatico.ca> > SP is absolutely right, patience and persistance are the least seen but > most used ingredients in the vast majority of quality models As long as we're talking about such things, there's another, trait, parallel to this one that most good modelers have. It's the ability to divide and conquer. I'm sure many of you have heard, "I could never build a model like that." The statement may be true but in my experience, quite often the problem is that they see it as one impossible task. I don't know what you guys say when someone says this but I've changed tactics and found one that's really fun. Instead of saying "All it takes is practice" or "It is a fine model", I ask a question. Generally it is "Which part would give you difficulty?" It's fun to see the blank look but even more fun to deal with the answers. If I'm lucky I get a guy who says something like, "I could never do all those details." or something along those lines. I'll immediately point at a 'detail' and say "the engine cylinders are just a bunch of plastic disks stacked up and glued together. Could you do that?" Of course the guy will say yes but...."I could never do an instrument panel like he's done." I'll say something like, instruments aren't much more than round circles and it looks like he's used X and then rimmed it with Y. Don't know for sure but it looks like he dropped some white paint in the resultant cup, added a dial with a fine brush and then dropped a drop of Future floor finish on top. You can do that, right?" About this time in the discussion the guy start to see models in a different light, as a whole bunch of little projects rather than a great big impossible one. I don't know how it would work in plastics but I've gotten several guys who 'couldn't build scale' doing just that by this method in the flying model world. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:58:54 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Larry's "jig" (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208291858.54629.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Looking at Larry's "jig" I can but wonder how we have modeled > without it. > > Excellent job, Larry. Thanks for showing how you did it. > > Now to work on one for me... ;-) Did I actually describe its creation? I'm a lazy modeler and I didn't want to start cutting metal and such to make this board. So, I found that Home Depots sell small sheets of metal and just bought one 12x24". It cost me a couple bucks. The board it's attached to is a piece of formica-covered particle board that I found in a scrap bin. Mine's probably longer than you need for plastics but I built mine for building small flying models too. To 'build' this board I used Lepage's #6 contact cement. I slathered (sorry for the technical term) a bunch of it on the wood and an equal amount on the metal. After it set for a few minutes I slapped the two materials togethr and sat a large pile of my ot books on it. Magnet collecting is an ongoing process as the more kinds you have the better but the strip magnet stuff that you can cut with scissors is by far the most useful. A real useful magnet is one that's cut from one of those magnet business cards (two per card). I cut them into a true 90 degree L and they're great for many things. Raw materials for this are generally free :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:01:16 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <200208291901.16555.larrym@sympatico.ca> > > http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=new&R=EM50 > >03 > > Gee, Dave. I already posted about this kit - last week! Have you ordered one yet? I've never orderd from Hannants but if it doesn't show up elsewhere soon I'm going to give them a try. I "need" one. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:11:01 -0500 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <3D6D5885.C53663D2@biocomp.unl.edu> Larry Marshall wrote: > Have you ordered one yet? I've never orderd from Hannants but if it doesn't > show up elsewhere soon I'm going to give them a try. I "need" one. Squadron has 'em listed in this month's supplement...price is something like $8.96 (I don't have the flyer here in front of me...) -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:05:44 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: gotha g.v lozenge Message-ID: Lance: Thanks. I may get 2 or 3 sheets to replace the kit decals. Still haven't made up my mind whether to do that. On the one hand, it'd be a fair trick to be able to use the kit decals and they are also cut to size and shape. On the other hand, there's scant margin for error. Michael >From: "Lance Krieg" >Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:40:43 -0400 (EDT) > >Michael wants to know: > >"...which of the Americal/Gryphon sheets is the correct one for the >5-colour hand-painted irregular hexagonal thingies in 1/72nd scale." > >Number 23; you'll need two to cover the whole thing, per the >instructions for dink-scale. Note that sheet 4 is the night-bomber >pre-printed fabric in 1/72. > >HTH > >Lance _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:32:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE:Well said! WAS:strip stretching Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958F1E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Larry says: >As long as we're talking about such things, there's another, trait, parallel >to this one that most good modelers have. It's the ability to divide and >conquer. That should be known as the Creed of the Scratchbuilder. Never look at a difficult project initially as a whole if it intimidates you. Make the wings if the fuselage looks hard, and think about solutions as you go. Try one fuselage solution while you carve a prop, a second while you build an engine, a third if need be while making seats and so on. Eventually you find you have a pile of completed parts looking for a magnetic jig. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:22:42 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Back Issues of Over the Front Message-ID: <002901c24fc3$be004160$ce86aec7@s0024008072> Lucky lucky lucky!!! I just found out that Auburn University has a full set of OTF in its library - perhaps you might find back copies in a local University library... DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:29:24 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <200208292129.24312.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Squadron has 'em listed in this month's supplement...price is something > like $8.96 (I don't have the flyer here in front of me...) I wonder if they really have them. I generally get my flyer a week or so after it's mentioned here. It's not listed on the website and since they've been advertising it for months I wonder if their flyer publication hasn't gotten a bit ahead of their receipt of the product? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:30:54 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: gotha g.v lozenge Message-ID: <200208292130.54057.larrym@sympatico.ca> > to be able to use the kit decals and they are also cut to size and shape. > On the other hand, there's scant margin for error. This brings up a question I've had. Do these kit lozenge decals typically fit? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:37:57 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <3D6ECC75.7070800@tampabay.rr.com> I wonder if their flyer publication hasn't > gotten a bit ahead of their receipt of the product? > > Cheers --- Larry Who? SMO? Naw never....BWAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHahahaha...... sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:09:28 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Back Issues of Over the Front Message-ID: <002001c24fca$45c32440$2bd2bacc@ptdprolog.net> Kris I have one extra from this year. It is yours if you want it. Send me your address if interested. Mike Muth mikemuth@ptd.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristjan Runarsson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: [WWI] Back Issues of Over the Front > Where can I buy back issues of Over the Front? > > I checked their Website but there was only membership information > > Can they be bought individually or only a years worth at a time? > > Cheers > KR > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:23:25 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:05:42 -0400 (EDT), Larry Marshall wrote: > Have you ordered one yet? I've never orderd from Hannants but if it doesn't > show up elsewhere soon I'm going to give them a try. I "need" one. Nah. No need. I'll get it elsewhere, like Roll. Shouldn't be too much of a price difference. Plus with the other hundreds of unbuilt models I have, it's not like I'm waiting around for something to build. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 04:40:25 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Hannants Message-ID: <002501c24fce$98398940$6653fea9@kristjar> When did Hannants add this rule? It is almost as irritating as that "Do you want a tube of glue with that sir!" question I get at the toy store and just when I had gotten over their stupid 30 pound minimum. "Because of postal problems we are unable to despatch any paints, bottled goods or adhesives etc., UNLESS a kit is ordered at the same time." I wonder what those postal problems are? Imagine somebody ordering an issue of Playboy from somewhere; I wonder what sort of item he has to buy as well as the magazine because of those new postal problems. Come to think of it I'm not sure I want to know.... KR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 04:47:59 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Re: Back Issues of Over the Front Message-ID: <000b01c24fcf$a6eed610$6653fea9@kristjar> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Back Issues of Over the Front > On 08-29-2002 11:42 am, KR wrote: > > > Where can I buy back issues of Over the Front? > > > > I checked their Website but there was only membership information > > > > Can they be bought individually or only a years worth at a time? > > IIRC, you can only buy a year's worth direct from OtF. However, check > the Squadron site, as they have been lately selling issues. Maybe > they'll have what you're looking for. Good luck! Are these people reachable by E-mail? Or will I have to SnailMail them? Cheers KR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:37:44 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Emhar A7V Message-ID: <200208292237.44794.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Who? SMO? Naw never....BWAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHahahaha...... Well...I will say this about them. If I order something from their website, I have it a week later. I can endure them advertising things they haven't yet gotten in stock as long as they don't take my order and then go hunting for the product like much of their competition does. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:08:30 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: gotha g.v lozenge Message-ID: >From: Larry Marshall >This brings up a question I've had. Do these kit lozenge decals >typically >fit? More to the point, do they fit on the G.V:? I used the Toko (ex-Roden) lozenge camouflage decals on the Aviatik D.I and they were fine in terms of fit - maybe the colours were a little questionable. I'd like to know from somebody who's tried to build the Roden G.V but so far, nobody will admit to having done that. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4614 **********************