WWI Digest 4612 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Finnish Fokkers and German/Turkish Aviation in Palestine/Mesopotamia by "Diego Fernetti" 2) ATB Trance Concert in Rochester New York! by fusionbase@atbfans.co.uk 3) Re: strip stretching by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: Really samll scale biplane by "Diego Fernetti" 5) Re: Qantas 504 on ebay by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Re: Really samll scale biplane by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: Qantas 504 on ebay by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: Qantas 504 on ebay by Dave Fleming 9) Re: Really samll scale biplane by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: Qantas 504 on ebay by Dave Fleming 11) Re: Qantas 504 on ebay by Crawford Neil 12) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 13) Everybody Gets Paid - No Recruiting Needed by "Opt-inList" 14) Re: strip stretching by Crawford Neil 15) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 16) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 17) Re: strip stretching by Crawford Neil 18) Re: strip stretching by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by tbittners@sprintmail.com 20) Re: strip stretching by tbittners@sprintmail.com 21) Re: strip stretching by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 23) Re: strip stretching by Larry Marshall 24) Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) by Larry Marshall 26) Re: strip stretching by "Michael Kendix" 27) Re: strip stretching by "Diego Fernetti" 28) Re: Really samll scale biplane and ergot by "Lee M." 29) Re: strip stretching by tbittners@sprintmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:55:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Finnish Fokkers and German/Turkish Aviation in Palestine/Mesopotamia Message-ID: <010201c24f42$4478d2c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Kristjan wrote: > 1) I have completed a profile of a Finnish Fokker D.VII on skis in case > anybody wants to do a D.VII in "Funky Hippie Acid Camo... Yeahhhhh Duuude!". Oh behave! Looks like Austin (Central) Power's aircraft! > 2) I have been thinking about doing a profile series on WWI Middle Eastern > aircraft of the Central Powers for ages. It is nice obscure subject that has > not been done to death yet. What types of aircraft did the Germans and Turks > operate in the middle east? Come to think of it does anybody know anything > about armored car ops in this theater? I recall a nice Albatros D.II and some halberstadts and... nieuports! I'll see what I have. Regarding non-aerial transportation I remember a picture of a railway cart with a makeshift Mercedes engine installation and a propeller, used as a squadron staff transport along the railway line. Pretty weird. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 06:02:09 -0400 From: fusionbase@atbfans.co.uk To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: ATB Trance Concert in Rochester New York! Message-ID: <3D6CAD940006FA20@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ATB live @ Club Universe 8/31/02
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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:11:04 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <011601c24f44$62737760$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry "scorpion king" Marshall wrote: > 1) If size and length of the strip will affect results, surely the amount I > stretch it will too. Standardlize pull distance! Here's something I can't be sure. My results are variable even when I *think* I made the exact same movements. Usually from each 10 strips 2 or 3 are useless. Maybe it's the heat source? The plastic? The speed of the pull? MAybe it's related to the chaos theory. > 2) If I set up an overhang of the standard distance, I could heat and pull the > strip such that it actually laid directly on the surface. Hope that works. I must try that as well. > 3) That surface needed to be non-stick and smooth. Well, I've seen that also in Steve's post and in Jamie's good intentions of cleaning his workbench :-) In fact I use a rather smooth, clean surface (my workbench is also my drawing table) but when pulling I lean just part of my hand on the table surface and keep the strip separated from the surface by a couple of centimeters (an inch, more or less). The table surface has, as in Neil's case, many telephone numbers scribbled with pencil that I usually erase while working over them. Then people wonders why I never return calls! > http://www3.sympatico.ca/larrym/images/strip_stretch.jpg Well done! By the small work area free of clutter I would have sweared that it's my own table! :-) > As an aside, the plate I'm doing this one has become one of the handiest > things I've picked up at the dollar store in some time. Mere mortals think > this is a nylon/plastic cutting board for the kitchen. GREAT! I saw that Wanda choose one of these for the registry! That's something I will snatch from the kitchen before it gets yucky! > each two inch piece will produce 3-4 well-formed ribs even in > my unsteady hands. Larry, remember to cut the blank "ribs" longer than the chord of the wing you need. Check Alberto's gallery pictures on the WW1 modelling website to see how he arranges the strips over the plastic wing. Once they dry, you give them a coat of dilluted varnish to fix them in place and conform some gentle curves between each rib (catenaries), cut the ends and sand lightly all over to clean up. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:13:37 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Really samll scale biplane Message-ID: <012401c24f44$bd77a320$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ernest wrote: > Most likely the same non-prescription 'medicine' I'm usually ingesting. Cogh medicine? Must be good, never saw you coughing while we were at Pensacola. Must be the pharmacy where we went with Bob and Roberto. Nice clerks, huh? > if you're implying that I was hallucinating, then the other ten thousand or > so people, including the cameras from the local paper, who also saw this > were having the same halucination. It's all a conspiration by the meanies of the Syndicate and the Smoking Man. I knew it! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:22:22 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Qantas 504 on ebay Message-ID: <013e01c24f45$f64749c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Knut wrote: > Maybe CC could scale down the Blue Max kit or at least promise to do so in > order to get Roden to do an Avro 504K series - think of the many options > availbe to them in details and decals. > Trainer, bomber, night fighter and seaplane - even an autogiro like the > one I saw at Le Bourget. If you provide masters for the conversions maybe Barry at Rosemont will make a resin conversion set.... i'd buy one of each! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:23:23 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Really samll scale biplane Message-ID: <014401c24f46$1ad88e20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael wrote: > I heard about this phenomenon. Mass hysteria! A few hundred years ago in > France, all the inhabitants of a small French town went temporarily insane. > Naturally, at the time, they put it down to satanic influences but the > hypothesis today is that a certain mould on the local rye bread was > responsible:). Yeah, I read about it. It was a mould with a ripple on it! D. ducking quack quack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:25:23 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Qantas 504 on ebay Message-ID: <014a01c24f46$62bdb4e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane our man in Brisbane wrote: > >What makes it more expensive is the 1/72 figure of Shane's grandma on the > >cockpit. > > If there was, I'd sell my soul for it. > My late grandma - died in 2000 - had her first flight in a Qantas aircraft > at about age 10 (in ~ 1925) It was being barnstormed through central > Queensland by one of the Qantas founders to raise money to keep the new > airline afloat. You MUST do a diorama depicting that scene someday! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:27:56 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Qantas 504 on ebay Message-ID: <1030616876.3d6df72cb8d98@netmail.pipex.net> > Knut wrote: > > Maybe CC could scale down the Blue Max kit or at least promise to do > so in > > order to get Roden to do an Avro 504K series - think of the many > options > > availbe to them in details and decals. > > Trainer, bomber, night fighter and seaplane - even an autogiro like > the > > one I saw at Le Bourget. > I have a half finished autogiro, and plans for lots of 504K conversions - I'm not so bothered about cockpit floors being too high, I'll just stick a slab of plastic card on the underside. Still waiting for the Amodel 'giro to see what I can do,then I have the Expo 504N to play with as well....... Maybe if I FINISH ONE, Roden will do what's needed !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:30:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Really samll scale biplane Message-ID: <018101c24f47$27f47640$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil from the North wrote: > In the Natural history museum at Tring (Buckinhamshire, UK) together > with all the other stuffed animals, they have a flea circus (deceased) > which you can view through a magnifying glass. As I remember (40 yrs ago) the little > lady flea was carrying an umbrella, well worth a visit, and not just for > the fleas. > /Neil C.(fleas ARE OT!) Before 1918 one of them was inside an LVG biplane, but then they changed it to a Kitten, and from it to a Pup ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:34:56 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Qantas 504 on ebay Message-ID: <1030617296.3d6df8d0798a0@netmail.pipex.net> > Knut wrote: > > Maybe CC could scale down the Blue Max kit or at least promise to do > so in > > order to get Roden to do an Avro 504K series - think of the many > options > > availbe to them in details and decals. > > Trainer, bomber, night fighter and seaplane - even an autogiro like > the > > one I saw at Le Bourget. > If you take the 504 family as a whole, you could build so many variants, from the basic 504 to the 617 - it was at least the late 20s before Avro stopped producing variations on the 504 line David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:41:20 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Qantas 504 on ebay Message-ID: > If you take the 504 family as a whole, you could build so > many variants, from > the basic 504 to the 617 - it was at least the late 20s > before Avro stopped > producing variations on the 504 line > > David > > And they were in service right up to, and into WW2, so the permutations of markings must be immense, how many models do you need to get a representative Avro 504 collection? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:22:38 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208290722.38536.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Now that you have some very nice strips, something I need to > practice on myself, how are your going to attach them? Liquid cement? > Future? Other method? I don't know. All I know is that I've decided to sacrifice my Spad wing to the experimental gods, doing a few ribs with this stuff, a few with decal strips, a few by scribing and using small rod, etc. I'll probably try using varnish, liquid cement, and CA as glue. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:48:49 -0500 From: "Opt-inList" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Everybody Gets Paid - No Recruiting Needed Message-ID: <3D6DFF1200002277@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Everybody gets paid. No recruiting required. Join and reserve a position for free now. Program is 18 weeks old and it's paying. Everybody gets in line to get paid by all the new people coming in (but it's NOT a traditional straightline)...EVERYONE makes money... and those that sponsor make more.... Click here to request for more information









We belong to the same opt-in list. But if wish to have your email address REMOVE from our database please click here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:37:17 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: Hey, We could start up some betting now. I'd give high odds that liquid cement won't work. Best bet on my books is Diego-strips glued on with CA. Incidentally the time I tried this lark for the fairings between flying wires on my Spad 12 I nearly had a nervous breakdown, I got very few straight enough and long enough. Diegos probably right as usual, practice would make it realistic. /Neil C. >All I know is that I've decided to sacrifice my Spad wing to >the experimental gods, doing a few ribs with this stuff, a few with decal >strips, a few by scribing and using small rod, etc. I'll probably try using >varnish, liquid cement, and CA as glue. >Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:44:31 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208290744.31800.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Here's something I can't be sure. My results are variable even when I > *think* I made the exact same movements. Usually from each 10 strips 2 or 3 > are useless. Maybe it's the heat source? The plastic? The speed of the > pull? My results are similar and I attribute it to an inability to evenly heat the plastic with a candle. I'm going to experiment with alternative heat sources. > Hope that works. I must try that as well. It works VERY well. After I pull to that distance I can literally pull downward on both ends. This pulls the strip directly onto the plate and it eliminates any tendency for the strip to twist and it's easy to hold it in that position while the plastic sets. > In fact I use a rather smooth, clean surface (my > workbench is also my drawing table) but when pulling I lean just part of my No paint or glue on my workbench either but having this plate stick out over the edge of it provides additional benefits beyond smooth. > Well done! By the small work area free of clutter I would have sweared that > it's my own table! :-) Yeah, the rest of the table is covered with plastic strips. I did a bunch of experimenting :-) I have another experiment going on that can be seen a bit on the right side of the photo. I'm using my magnet board to lay out a set of booms for a Rosemont Caudron G3, seeing if .040"sq plastic will be stiff enough once the booms are assembled. > > this is a nylon/plastic cutting board for the kitchen. > > GREAT! I saw that Wanda choose one of these for the registry! That's Well...they make nice versions of these too. This one is very plain Jane but at a dollar, I'm going to pick up a couple spares. I know Daniel is going to cut one up as the base for his A7V. > > each two inch piece will produce 3-4 well-formed ribs even in > > my unsteady hands. > > Larry, remember to cut the blank "ribs" longer than the chord of the wing You're right, of course. One must have handles :-) I'll probably only get 2-3 ribs from a strip. But that means 20-30 from a single, full Evergreen stick. > you need. Check Alberto's gallery pictures on the WW1 modelling website to > see how he arranges the strips over the plastic wing. I've done that and maybe I did it too quickly but all the references there were to decal strips. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:59:32 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208290759.32856.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Hey, We could start up some betting now. I'd give high odds > that liquid cement won't work. I think that's a safe bet, Neil. This stuff is too thin to deal with being melted :-) > Best bet on my books is Diego-strips glued on with CA. Though Diego says he uses varnish. That's why I want to try both. > Incidentally the time I tried this lark for the fairings between flying wires on my Spad 12 I nearly had a nervous breakdown I'm concerned about this as well. Seems to me that if I can tack the strip to the front, know wher I"m heading in the rear, I should be able to get them straight so I figure I'll just mark the locations front and back. So bold are the naive! > I got very few straight enough and long enough. Here again I intend to use the 'overhang' approach, taping the wing to a stick only as wide as the wing. Thus, I should be able to pull down on the strip at the LE and TE. I dream in technicolor too :-) > Diegos probably right as usual, practice would make it realistic. I should get lots of practice with all the ribs on this Spad wing. Clearly I won't be doing a Spad as a first 'real' project with these methods. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:09:42 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: > I should get lots of practice with all the ribs on this Spad > wing. Clearly I > won't be doing a Spad as a first 'real' project with these methods. > > Cheers --- Larry Well after reading all this I can give you a tip for a much easier method, it's called the St.Harry method for 1/72 scale wings, just emboss the ribs on thin plastic, then glue it on the wing blanks. It MUST be easier! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:25:02 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <021001c24f57$1b380380$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil, Larry > Hey, We could start up some betting now. I'd give high odds > that liquid cement won't work. I guess that if you use minimal amount it would work. But sure, this method have no margin to error. > Best bet on my books is > Diego-strips glued on with CA. I tried CA and had a hard time positioning the ribs paralell before the ca dried on the wing. I'd stick to varninsh (no pun intended) as it gives you more time to get the thingies straight and paralell. Of course, it takes a while to absolutely dry, but I'm sooo slow! > Diegos probably right as usual, practice would > make it realistic. All I know is what Alberto told me. And I'm still far behind his wonderful results! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:29:06 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208291229.g7TCT6j72363@king1.kingsnake.com> On 08-29-2002 06:47 am, Larry wrote: > Yeah, the rest of the table is covered with plastic strips. I did a bunch of > experimenting :-) I have another experiment going on that can be seen a bit > on the right side of the photo. I'm using my magnet board to lay out a set > of booms for a Rosemont Caudron G3, seeing if .040"sq plastic will be stiff > enough once the booms are assembled. You shoulda been around about this time, last year. Some of us were lucky enough to get in on Part-produced photoetch booms that Andrei Koribanics designed for the Rosemont G.3. Superb! Especially since they're "built up" with multiple pieces. Plus, do you have the "re-released" kit with all the resin? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:35:37 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291235.g7TCZbI72823@king1.kingsnake.com> An idea I just thought of that might forego sprue stretching (something I am *not* good at) which is a variation on a number of themes. Scribes lines where the ribs go. Use .020 (or .010 if you're really concerned) rod to "float" into the scribed lines: Load up the entire scribed line with Future (Kleer) then add the .020 rod and push it in, allowing the Future to "ooze out". Gently wipe this away with either a cotton bud (Q-Tip) or (maybe better) an eye-makup applicator. What I'm envisioning is the Future "blends" the rod into the wing, giving it a better appearance, especially IRT SPADs. I may have to try this one of these days... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:44:09 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <022e01c24f59$c7a41c60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry! > My results are similar and I attribute it to an inability to evenly heat the > plastic with a candle. I'm going to experiment with alternative heat > sources. Solar energy? ;-) St. Harry mentions an elecrical heater. The power bill must have been enormous at East Sheen! > It works VERY well. After I pull to that distance I can literally pull > downward on both ends. This pulls the strip directly onto the plate and it > eliminates any tendency for the strip to twist and it's easy to hold it in > that position while the plastic sets. Intersting. But you get two curved corners at each plate edge and that's a waste. > I have another experiment going on that can be seen a bit > on the right side of the photo. I'm using my magnet board to lay out a set > of booms for a Rosemont Caudron G3, seeing if .040"sq plastic will be stiff > enough once the booms are assembled. So you started building french! ""Bwahahaha!" > Well...they make nice versions of these too. This one is very plain Jane but > at a dollar, I'm going to pick up a couple spares. I know Daniel is going to > cut one up as the base for his A7V. The one wanda chose has lemons printed on it. I wanted one printed with "Budweiser" but it was more expensive. > I've done that and maybe I did it too quickly but all the references there > were to decal strips. Here is one http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Casirati/Nieuport/Ni17-Revell-fusel.jpg See how the translucency of the ribs can be different? Thicker ones are lighter. This wing is already sanded and cleaned up, ready for priming. Here are the results http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Casirati/Nieuport/Ni17-Revell-parts.jpg very subtle as it should. Note the difference with the tail ribbing, wich was enhanced. Here is another example: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Casirati/Nieuport/Ni28-Revell-bottom-mod.jp g HTH D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:42:14 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208290842.14037.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I tried CA and had a hard time positioning the ribs paralell before the ca If this works the same way as the process works with larger materials, the trick is not to be gluing and positioning simultaneously. You've done it, and I haven't so I can still believe in my pure view of how it will work :-) My view is that I will attach the strip to the LE (actually maybe the TE would be better). After that's dry, I would simply pull the strip, under tension, to the other edge, check it to ensure that it's perpendicular to the edge, and glue it. Time will tell where the error in my logic lies. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:45:17 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208290845.17589.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Well after reading all this I can give you a tip for a much easier > method, it's called the St.Harry method for 1/72 scale wings, > just emboss the ribs on thin plastic, then glue it on the wing blanks. > It MUST be easier! I know this method and while I haven't used it for model airplanes, I have done it several times when I was into model railroads. Works great but I'm one of those guys who believes that the more tricks in the bag, the better off I am (warm and fuzzy feelings I suppose). Actually, I still think that for most stuff, the decal route generates the best results for older CDL craft because you can paint the ribs a dark color and it looks really great when you lightly paint the wings CDL after the ribs are in place. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:49:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <023e01c24f5a$74802000$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt "Biloxi scourge" wrote: > Some of us were > lucky enough to get in on Part-produced photoetch booms that Andrei > Koribanics designed for the Rosemont G.3. Superb! Especially since > they're "built up" with multiple pieces. I guess I'll use styrene add ons as Andrei did originally. That will allow me to sand the strut ends to a more rounded appearance. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:50:38 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 (was Re: Re: strip stretching) Message-ID: <200208290850.38357.larrym@sympatico.ca> > You shoulda been around about this time, last year. Some of us were > lucky enough to get in on Part-produced photoetch booms that Andrei > Koribanics designed for the Rosemont G.3. Superb! Especially since > they're "built up" with multiple pieces. I've seen that in his gallery. I'm a heretic, I guess, (though I'm agreeing with Harry Woodman so the view can't be all bad) as I think this demonstrates the principle that 'I have a hammer so the world is a nail'. I don't see any reason whatever for photo-etch booms. A simple magnet board permits exact placement of plastic or brass parts without resorting to photo-etching. > Plus, do you have the "re-released" kit with all the resin? Not yet but Barry sent it out a couple days ago :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:54:12 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: >From: tbittners@sprintmail.com >An idea I just thought of that might forego sprue stretching (something >I am *not* good at) which is a variation on a number of themes. >What I'm envisioning is the Future "blends" the rod into the wing, >giving it a better appearance, especially IRT SPADs. I am not saying this will or will not work, however, it might be prferable to try this or any new method on a subject with a smaller number of ribs than a SPAD VII. Or, at least, on a wing that has the ribs not so close to each other - the Voisin III comes to mind as an ideal candidate. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:55:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <025601c24f5b$6ae361a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Done that as well for the Airfix Spad VII... but since the fuselage needs so much work as well, I guess I better wait for the Pegasus kit!!! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: strip stretching > > I should get lots of practice with all the ribs on this Spad > > wing. Clearly I > > won't be doing a Spad as a first 'real' project with these methods. > > > > Cheers --- Larry > > > Well after reading all this I can give you a tip for a much easier > method, it's called the St.Harry method for 1/72 scale wings, > just emboss the ribs on thin plastic, then glue it on the wing blanks. > It MUST be easier! > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:02:50 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: Really samll scale biplane and ergot Message-ID: <039f01c24f5c$6214a1a0$a54d39cc@mesystem> Sorry fellas that was not a mistake bu=y the citizens of that French Vilage. they suffered fro Ergot/Ergotrate poison and a numberr of people died from it as well. It is a fungus/mold that can form on Rye seeds and if unnoticed can be milled and made into bread which can get to be deadly. It has happened more than once. It does effect the brain.. Look up ERGOT on your browser. Not a joke. Ever... Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Really samll scale biplane > Michael wrote: > > I heard about this phenomenon. Mass hysteria! A few hundred years ago in > > France, all the inhabitants of a small French town went temporarily > insane. > > Naturally, at the time, they put it down to satanic influences but the > > hypothesis today is that a certain mould on the local rye bread was > > responsible:). > > Yeah, I read about it. It was a mould with a ripple on it! > D. > ducking quack quack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:52:09 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: strip stretching Message-ID: <200208291252.g7TCq9W73851@king1.kingsnake.com> On 08-29-2002 07:54 am, Michael wrote: > I am not saying this will or will not work, however, it might be prferable > to try this or any new method on a subject with a smaller number of ribs > than a SPAD VII. Or, at least, on a wing that has the ribs not so close to > each other - the Voisin III comes to mind as an ideal candidate. Excellent idea. Or maybe a MoS Type L wing, using the Rosemont blank as a start. Hmmm... ;-) Matt ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4612 **********************