WWI Digest 4600 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re Modelling Madness by "NEIL EDDY" 2) meller-3-what now!? by "iban" 3) Antique Airplane Calendar by Mark Miller 4) Re:Back after quite some time... by Shane Weier 5) Re: Antique Airplane Calendar by "Mike Muth" 6) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Volker Haeusler 7) Re:Back after quite some time... by Volker Haeusler 8) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by "Michael Kendix" 9) Gotha G.V interior colour by "Michael Kendix" 10) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Larry Marshall 11) Finished a Hangar Queen by Steven Perry 12) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by "Michael Kendix" 13) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Larry Marshall 14) Re: Gotha G.V interior colour by "ernest thomas" 15) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by "Bob Pearson" 16) Re: Gotha G.V interior colour by KarrArt@aol.com 17) Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? by Michael Fletcher 18) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Volker Haeusler 19) Re: ????? by Michael Fletcher 20) New Paint Range? by "NEIL EDDY" 21) Re: Gotha G.V interior colour by "ernest thomas" 22) Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? by "iban" 23) Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? by Volker Haeusler 24) Re: Finished a Hangar Queen by "ernest thomas" 25) RE: New Paint Range? by Volker Haeusler 26) Other nations use of OT aircraft and other thoughts by "Bob Pearson" 27) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Larry Marshall 28) Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles by Larry Marshall 29) Nieuport 17 instruments by "Mario Didier" 30) Re: Other nations use of OT aircraft and other thoughts by Larry Marshall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 03:29:19 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re Modelling Madness Message-ID: <000b01c24b93$c7cbe7a0$8cd832d2@default> Hi All; That Voison is amazing! The rigging alone would drive me spare. Hats off! Also Matt "forgot" the 1/48 silver doped Nieuport 17 (48-6). This too is great work IMHO. All the Best Neil E (Southern Coven) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:32:26 -0400 From: "iban" To: Subject: meller-3-what now!? Message-ID: <00cd01c24ba4$fb2ac880$0bd9fea9@eis> ----- Original Message ----- > i'm also intrigued by the meller-shavrov 3, a (russian? maybe bulgarian?) > single engine/twin prop nieuport monoplane variant, or maybe just a one-off > experiment. i can only find one reference to this, a crude front and side > view. does anyone know of anything else? jeez, i screwed that up. shavrov was the *author* name of the source reference--"History of aircraft construction in the USSR", V.B.Shavrov; ISBN 5-217-02528-X. it's in russian, and i've hunted all over for it. i'd love to have a copy. do any of you have it? brian, do you guys perhaps have a copy in the nasm reading room? ok, as for the plane, it was a dux-built meller 3. dux was the company, meller was the owner and designer. > most grateful in advance, (still am) > iban. hey, what's up with the list? seems really slow. posts sent last night still not in... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 13:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Antique Airplane Calendar Message-ID: <20020824200914.608.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> I was recently in a "Border's" (large US bookstore chain)and noticed a calander called Antique Airplanes with a photo of the Rhinebeck Camel on the front. The back cover states that all the photos are from Rhinebeck and that the captions were provided by Brian Nicklas of NASM Hey, I think I know that guy !! congrats Brian :-) Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 06:46:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re:Back after quite some time... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958ED8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Welcome back Volker, > Included in the overall display were a number of very nice OT model >displays, including a beautiful Jasta 5 diorama (with some nice and accurate >Boistrancourt hangars included). So, is it accurate? Or did they forget the cow? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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Plus the pilot is *NOT* Fejes, as claimed ("probably") by the Osprey book. 153.24 never served with Flik 19 or 51, Fejes never served with any other unit than these two (actually, the photo shows the aircraft with Kampfstaffel Galanesti, a spin off of Fliks 38 and 40, commanded by Olt. Hans Fischer). Fejes was photographed in a very similar aircraft, but that one lacked the star on top of the fuselage... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:25:10 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Back after quite some time... Message-ID: > > So, is it accurate? Or did they forget the cow? > > Shane > > > No cows. But itīs good to see youīre back as well. Howīs the "Koenig" doing (or is that a bad question)? Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:50:12 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: >From: Volker Haeusler >There is another photo of the same aircraft, showing it from the right > >side. the full code is visible, and itīs 153.24 (photo on p. 123 of >the >superb book "Die Albatros (Oeffag) Jagdflugzeuge der kuk >Luftfahrttruppen" >by Dr. Peter Schiemer). ... .... >the photo shows the aircraft with Kampfstaffel Galanesti... Volker: Thanks. As someone who is interestedin the A-H kuk stuff, I'm wondering how much I am missing by not being able to read German. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:32:51 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gotha G.V interior colour Message-ID: What colour would the fuselage interior have been? The instructions say "Natural Wood", which is OK I suppose but I wonder whether it was painted in some colour. After all, the took the trouble to paint the exterior in a multi-colour irregular hexagonal pattern. I'm also using the Part photoetch though not all of it - I think the tie downs for the rigging tot the struts will have to wait for the next one. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:59:52 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: <200208242259.52627.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Plus the pilot is *NOT* Fejes, as claimed ("probably") by the Osprey book. > 153.24 never served with Flik 19 or 51, Fejes never served with any other Does this, then, mean that the JaPo book is wrong (pg 36) by suggesting that the 6 pointed star (and they show it on 153.29) was "Feje's personal marking.....became characteristic for the whole unit" (ref to Flik 51J)? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:22:34 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Finished a Hangar Queen Message-ID: <3D684D7A.1050304@tampabay.rr.com> I have just finished my Meikraft Dornier D.I. I'm afraid I didn't do this kit justice. The kit wasn't bad at all. Usable injected parts. Thick walled, but usable. Nice decals and some PE. First I tried bare metalfoil with disasterous results. I'm too clumbsy to work with that stuff. Then Rub&Buff with less than envisioned results. The kit sat forever half done, but I got so sick of ot Airfix black plastic, 3 days on the fuslage seam;-(, that I had to have a two winged fix, so I finished the D.I. It's the worst model I've turned out in ages, but it's finished and not round filed. That leaves just 3 hangar queens, one ot & 2 OT. Progress is progress. Don't expect to see any photos ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 03:29:26 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: >From: Larry Marshall > >>Plus the pilot is *NOT* Fejes, as claimed ("probably") by the >>Osprey >>book. 153.24 never served with Flik 19 or 51, Fejes never >>served with >>any other > >Does this, then, mean that the JaPo book is wrong (pg 36) by >suggesting >that the 6 pointed star (and they show it on 153.29) >was "Feje's personal >marking.....became characteristic for the whole >unit" (ref to Flik 51J)? Larry: No. Volker had said that: >Fejes was photographed in a very similar aircraft, but that >one lacked the star on top of the fuselage... The one without the star on the top of the fuselage is 153.29 and the one with it is 153.24. 153.24 was flown by Flik 30 not Flik 51. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:13:12 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: <200208250013.12043.larrym@sympatico.ca> > 153.24 was flown by Flik 30 not Flik 51. Isn't it a bit odd that a "unit mark" for Flik 51 was flown on a plane in Flik 30? Claiming no expertise here, some of the photos and descriptions I see don't seem to add up. That said, there are also references like "This plane has Mr. X's personal markings but it was also flown by Mr Y" so I'm not sure how to interpret who flew what or what evidence is required to trace everything here. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:21:07 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha G.V interior colour Message-ID: Hey Mike, I looked through the datafile special and the only thing I can tell you conclusively is that the instrument panel is natural wood. I do have a vague recollection of a some of natural wood in the rear gunner's ofice on RK's Gotha, fwmvraw(for whatever my vague recollections are worth) Hth, mcd, ucwohm... E. nw; I am Sam a movie with Sean Penn as a mentally challenged father trying to win costody of his child. Sean Penn playing the role of someone who's mentally challenged? Isn't that sort of like Madonna playing a whore who slept her way to power, ie; Evita? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:02:23 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: <103025178101@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> > Isn't it a bit odd that a "unit mark" for Flik 51 was flown on a plane in Flik > 30? Not really, there is no reason why a fairly common, and easily drawn, form like a six pointed star should not be arrived at independantly by various persons. If the two units were stationed far enough apart there would be no fear of confusing the personal parkning on one aircraft from the unit marking on another. Bob (finished some Macchi M.5 and Sopwith Baby profiles - Alps decals anyone?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:03:03 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha G.V interior colour Message-ID: <4e.100dd089.2a99bf07@aol.com> In a message dated 8/24/02 9:23:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, reason108@hotmail.com writes: << I do have a vague recollection of a some of natural wood in the rear gunner's ofice on RK's Gotha, fwmvraw(for whatever my vague recollections are worth) Hth, mcd, ucwohm... E. >> yep. Scrapping the cobwebs off the mental file named "gothas and nightmares", there seems to be a dim memory forming in the murk that's showing me a crash photo that showed some graining in a split-open fuselage, on a G.IV. As to the G.V......I don't know. RK nw: that horde of damned neon monkeys that I've seen since I was an infant whenever I close my eyes. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:01:44 -0400 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? Message-ID: <3D6864B8.59055769@rogers.com> The V has not been identified though there are several candidates including the Nieuport-Dunne tail-less biplane and a twin boom pusher made of paper maché... I suspect that all you will find on the Meller-Shavrov is from the Russian site you must have got the 3 view from. Mike Fl. iban wrote: > > ok, a quick nieupie question for you n-word experts: > > in the early monoplanes, i'm famililiar with both the type iv and the type > vi, but i've never seen nor hear of a type v, and can't find one in a web > search, either. was their such a creature? > > ok, i lied: two quick questions: > > i'm also intrigued by the meller-shavrov 3, a (russian? maybe bulgarian?) > single engine/twin prop nieuport monoplane variant, or maybe just a one-off > experiment. i can only find one reference to this, a crude front and side > view. does anyone know of anything else? > > most grateful in advance, > > iban. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 04:26:29 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: Larry, to your questions: > - > > Does this, then, mean that the JaPo book is wrong (pg 36) by > suggesting that > the 6 pointed star (and they show it on 153.29) was "Feje's personal > marking.....became characteristic for the whole unit" (ref to Flik 51J)? > And > Isn't it a bit odd that a "unit mark" for Flik 51 was flown on a plane in Flik >30? >Claiming no expertise here, some of the photos and descriptions I see don't >seem to add up. That said, there are also references like "This plane has >Mr. X's personal markings but it was also flown by Mr Y" so I'm not sure how >to interpret who flew what or what evidence is required to trace everything >here. First, as already answered by Michael, the Japo book is not wrong. It is quite clear that Fejes used the hexagram or six pointed star already in 1917, and (as also written in the JaPo book, p. 52) it later became a unit marking from early 1918. Itīs just that the Flik 30 153.24 carried the same marking. Second, it may be odd, but after all 153.24 carried that marking already in 1917, before the star became a unit marking of Flik 51. Third, the hexagram was a widely used marking. On one hand, itīs "star of David" meaning made it popular (also with a lot of German pilots). More important, as described by Marty OīConnor, it is found in the coat of arms of the Kingdom of Hungary (as a red or gold star, both being used). This *might* be the real reason for itīs use in these instances here. Fourth, the stars on 153.29 are described as black/white. On 153.29 (the original Fejes machine), the star is also depicted as black in the JaPo book, but described as red by OīConnor (p. 57 of his book). No idea whoīs right or wrong here... Finally, thereīs little doubt as to the correctness of the identification of the machines. The Austro-Hungarians were very careful in recording the "Stammdaten" of each aircraft, and all that stuff (in contrast to most of the German data) survives to this day in Viennaīs Kriegsarchiv. Schiemer did an exemplary job in documenting the individual history of all these aircraft in his book. So in general, it may be somewhat odd, but thereīs little doubt about the facts in this case - exisiting photos and surviving data supplementing each other here. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:16:53 -0400 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ????? Message-ID: <3D686845.DAA77F@rogers.com> Thanks - I've seen this shot mislabeled as a Handley Page - all I knew is that wasn't what it was. Not too much more to add other than about 5,000 Avro 504's and some DH6's. Mike Fl. Len Smith wrote: > > Michael, > This is another Air Department design, the AD Type 1 Seaplane, Admiralty > type 1000. > Although not obvious from the photo, it was a twin boom machine with engines > at the front of each boom (removed before the photo was taken) and a further > one at the rear of the central nacelle. It was not successful. > Regards Len. > lensmith@clara.net > http://home.clara.net/lensmith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Fletcher" > > It works best if you don't specify anything at all - it gives the full > > list. Nice set of naked AEG shots I don't recall seeing at the museum > > and the series on the AD scout is amazing.> > > AD > > http://www.science-tech.nmstc.ca/nam/Digital_archives/images/KM529.JPG > > to > > http://www.science-tech.nmstc.ca/nam/Digital_archives/images/KM537.JPG > > > > ????? > > http://www.science-tech.nmstc.ca/nam/Digital_archives/images/KM538.JPG > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:06:24 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: New Paint Range? Message-ID: <000701c24bfd$8b535aa0$a12132d2@default> Hi All Just out of Lurk after coming across this company on the web - JPS Modell. He has his own paint range and has some OT colours also. Here are the links: http://www.jpsmodell.de/shop/jpsfl1_e.htm and... http://www.jpsmodell.de/main_e.htm Does anyone know anything about this company and their paints? Has anyone used them maybe? All the Best Neil E Southside ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:08:41 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha G.V interior colour Message-ID: >From: KarrArt@aol.com >nw: that horde of damned neon monkeys that I've seen since I was an infant >whenever I close my eyes. Are any of them having sex with Madonna? E. nw; this goddamned slow hotmail 'compose' screen change to the goddamned slow hotmail 'message sent' screen. Think it's time to bail on hotmail and re-sub on the old ethomas6@bellsouth acct. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 02:13:28 -0400 From: "iban" To: Subject: Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? Message-ID: <009701c24bfe$881d6780$0bd9fea9@eis> thanks for the reply, mike. this is fascinating. Michael Fletcher wrote: > ...a twin boom pusher made of paper maché... what!? made of *what!?* wow! is there any more info available on that one? cheers, iban. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 05:35:39 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: nieuport iv? meller-shavrov 3? Message-ID: Iban, > i'm also intrigued by the meller-shavrov 3, a (russian? maybe bulgarian?) > single engine/twin prop nieuport monoplane variant, or maybe just a one-off > experiment. i can only find one reference to this, a crude front and side > view. does anyone know of anything else? Donīt know much more, but Y.A. Meller was the owner of the Dux aircraft company, which mainly build French aircraft in licence (Bleriots, Nieuports, Farmans, SPAD). The first three new designs of that company were named Meller I, II and III respectivly. All based on parts or at least the design of the Bleriots, Nieuports or Farmans build at that time. All three semingly with the creation of an armed aircraft in mind. I find the Meller I with itīs center mounted engine especially interesting - a kind of monoplane version of the SPAD A or Dufaux fighter. As for the Meller III - just to quote the short desciption in Bill Gunstonīs "Osprey Encyclopaedia of Russian Aircraft": "Meller III monoplane (80 hp Salmson, chain drives two tractor props) failure". Thatīs about all I could find on this aircraft. Just as weīre discussing Russian aircraft: Does anybody have any good reference on the Kasyanenko Type 5 pusher - I just know the photo in the Gunston book and the 3view in the "Complete book of Fighters", but would really like to build that aircraft... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:17:02 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Finished a Hangar Queen Message-ID: >From: Steven Perry >I have just finished my Meikraft Dornier D.I. I'm afraid I didn't do >this kit justice. The kit wasn't bad at all. (snip-a-roo) >Don't expect to see any photos ;-) Yeah, I build one of them for my wargame customer (McManus the lawyer). I didn't take any pics either. BUt I did have a lot of fun flying it around the bench for a few days before I handed it over. E. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 05:49:03 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New Paint Range? Message-ID: Neil, > > Hi All > > Just out of Lurk after coming across this company on the web - JPS Modell. > He has his own paint range and has some OT colours also. > > Here are the links: > > http://www.jpsmodell.de/shop/jpsfl1_e.htm > > and... > > http://www.jpsmodell.de/main_e.htm > > Does anyone know anything about this company and their paints? Has anyone > used them maybe? > The guy behind that company is Jens Popp. I know this guy personally, as we both were members of the Frankfurt modelling club, when I was still in Germany. He is himself a very active modeller, and used to be active as well in the "International Modell News" (a German webpage similar to Modeling Madness) The paint range exists for at least ten years - I remember getting his "Desert Pink" shortly after the Gulf War. The colors are acrylics. I can not comment at the quality at this moment, but I had some problems with them when trying them ten years ago - I admit I still have some troubles with acrylics today, so this might rather reflect my abilities then the quality of this colors. On the positive side, his colors were comparatively cheap then - I have not checked his prices now. Finally, his website has one great area: Thatīs the one dealing with modern camouflage schemes, where he has prepared dozens of interesting schemes. Iīm also told that the accuracy of his colors has improved due to the cooperation with Michael Ullmann and others. How far that applies to the OT colors I can not say. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 01:07:15 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Other nations use of OT aircraft and other thoughts Message-ID: <103026286901@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> Hi all, Time for me to start expanding the CD and I think I will start adding some of the smaller nations. Does anyone have any pet project listing the various types used by any of the non-major powers? I think I will add OT types used up until the mid-late 1920s. In other news, there have been 25 new profiles added to the CD this week, plus another 70-80 since the start of the year. My reprinting of my 1/48 file cards is progressing nicely .. it now looks like there shall be around 200 redundant 5x8 cards with profiles on them. . a nice collection I should think. Also a reminder that pretty well anything that has been profiled can be done up as Alps decals in whatever scale is desired ... Soon I think I will do sets for the Hanriot and Macchi M.5. Regards, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:55:05 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: <200208250855.05328.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Not really, there is no reason why a fairly common, and easily drawn, form > like a six pointed star should not be arrived at independantly by various > persons. Understood. > If the two units were stationed far enough apart there would be no fear of > confusing the personal parkning on one aircraft from the unit marking on > another. What seems odd to me is that we're talking about 153.24 and 153.29. It seems fairly unlikely to me that these two aircraft were 'stationed far enough apart'. Throw into the mix a reporting that both planes were flown by the same pilot, the apparent confusion in the reporting/photos and there just seem to be too many coincidences. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:00:13 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Something on the new OSprey OT titles Message-ID: <200208250900.13767.larrym@sympatico.ca> > So in general, it may be somewhat odd, but thereīs little doubt about the > facts in this case - exisiting photos and surviving data supplementing each > other here. Very informative, Volker. I shall file it away. it's good to know that the records for A-H are still intact. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:04:24 +0200 From: "Mario Didier" To: Subject: Nieuport 17 instruments Message-ID: <000801c24c37$f5187c10$3144623e@nomeivkuq1t6t5> Dear Members, could anyone help me, ? I am looking some infos about the disposition of the insruments in the cockpit of a french built nieuport 17. Thanks in advance for your help. Mario Didier ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:16:19 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Other nations use of OT aircraft and other thoughts Message-ID: <200208250916.19074.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Sunday 25 August 2002 04:08, you wrote: > Hi all, > > Time for me to start expanding the CD and I think I will start adding some Bob, if you're thinking about updating, do you know that the two Caudron thumbnails in 48th Squadriglia both point at the same large graphic? This is just an HTML error as the large graphic for 48-2 is on the CD. Also, it would really be nice if there were an indicator on the indexes to let you know if the large graphic included a top view. Maybe just an asterisk. > of the smaller nations. Does anyone have any pet project listing the > various types used by any of the non-major powers? I think I will add OT > types used up until the mid-late 1920s. What about countries that became countries with the break up of A-H? > In other news, there have been 25 new profiles added to the CD this week, > plus another 70-80 since the start of the year. My reprinting of my 1/48 Wow! Will you be issuing an update disk soon? > Also a reminder that pretty well anything that has been profiled can be > done up as Alps decals in whatever scale is desired ... Soon I think I Do you sell these on a one aircraft basis? What is the price? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4600 **********************