WWI Digest 4586 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by Shane Weier 2) RE: Sweden by Tom Gourdie 3) RE: Sweden by Crawford Neil 4) wwi,Do you know the differences about HGH products by "Cathleen Lezcano" 5) hi-tech gotha daydream by "M.G. Sheftall" 6) Osprey titles coming by "Matt Bittner" 7) RE: Osprey titles coming by Tom Gourdie 8) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: Osprey titles coming by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by Crawford Neil 11) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "Diego Fernetti" 12) More Nats by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: Sweden by "Diego Fernetti" 14) Re: Sweden by Crawford Neil 15) Sad news by tbittners@sprintmail.com 16) Re: Sweden by "Diego Fernetti" 17) Re: Sweden by Crawford Neil 18) Need scratchbuilding advice by knuterha@eunet.no 19) Re: Sweden by "David Vosburgh" 20) Re: Sweden by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 21) Re: Sweden... and Scotland by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: Sweden... and Scotland by Crawford Neil 23) RE: Need scratchbuilding advice by Crawford Neil 24) Re: Sweden... and Scotland by Tom Gourdie 25) Re: Osprey titles coming by Allan Wright 26) Re: Osprey titles coming by Tom Gourdie 27) Re: Osprey titles coming by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:06:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958E8B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jesse says: >i don't think it likes the '.' to the left of the '@' .... Two things - I hadn't taken the opportunity to welcome you back after an absence which seems pretty long to me. So, from the purgatory of digestland - G'Day. (I still remember a photo of one of Jesse's models that I used as wallpaper for over a year back about when I joined the list in 1994?) Thing two - the "." is legitimate under the rules and your mail server would only reject it if it was faulty. It may be doing so but I'm betting the issue lies elsewhere Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:12:17 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Sweden Message-ID: <02Aug15.091231bst.118131@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> It's probably OT insofar as it is probably similar to trenches rations... Tom -----Original Message----- From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com] Sent: 14 August 2002 19:51 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Sweden "And I thought the Swedes had a reputation for quality design and construction too." This is the same country that sells surstromming as a food, so be careful! Id rather eat a jar of vegemite than be in the same room when a tin of that rotten fish is opened. I see no way to make this OT... Lance This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:35:29 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Sweden Message-ID: No way, giving the troops surstromming would definitely have caused a mutiny. The smell is truly apalling. We gave one to our cat, and they say cats can't walk backwards, but he proved that wrong, he reversed very quickly. several meters. Talking of cats we got a laugh yesterday when he fell in the pond trying to catch a dragonfly, and talking of dragonflies, the ABC dragonfly wasn't vey successful in the Snipe was it /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:18:50 +0800 From: "Cathleen Lezcano" To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: wwi,Do you know the differences about HGH products Message-ID: <200208150412390.SM01292@mail482.finestoffers.com>
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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:37:18 +0900 From: "M.G. Sheftall" To: Subject: hi-tech gotha daydream Message-ID: <000f01c2443f$5c673010$3e4f07d3@yourmjz5hbs8mp> Squadron advertises the HiTech Gotha GIII. Is it really in stock?? thanks peter Just checked out Hannants site. They've got a cover art pic up, but no dates or prices. Wouldn't it rock if the flying surfaces were done in clear plastic? Bucky p.s. Yes, I live -- and lurk. Been reading most of the posts, but am too busy with "other" writing to post anything of my own. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:49:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: I was allowed to pass this along from Greg VanWyngarden: "Osprey editor Tony Holmes now has all the material for Norman Franks' book on Sopwith Camel aces in hand, as well as the same for our joint effort on Fokker D.VII aces,Volume 1: Jagdgeschwader Aces. I don't know when these will come out, as I'm pretty sure Tony hasn't started editing the D.VII book yet. The Camel book will probably be out before the D.VII book, perhaps around the end of this year. Norman will be writing a book on Sopwith Triplane aces, I think, and we will do a second volume on D.VII aces (non-Jagdgeschwader pilots). Eventually I'm sure there will be one on SE5a aces. And yes, Tony has agreed that if I can write a book on Pfalz aces, they'll publish it. As you guessed, the problem will be coming up with enough "aces" and color schemes. Any ace who was photographed anywhere near a Pfalz D.III or D.IIIa will probably qualify as a "Pfalz ace" !! I may have to include some Pfalz eindeckers and even a Pfalz D.VIII and D.XII or two. Fun !!" Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:13:55 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: <02Aug15.111410bst.118094@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> This looks good. If there is a Sopwith Triplane book then to me that is good news. Also if there is a Pfalz book which deals also with the DXII, DVIII, and eindekkers as well as DIII/IIIa then that too should be worthwhile. Funny that Greg says that he '...may have to include...' - does he not like the other Pfalz products?! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2002 10:50 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Osprey titles coming I was allowed to pass this along from Greg VanWyngarden: "Osprey editor Tony Holmes now has all the material for Norman Franks' book on Sopwith Camel aces in hand, as well as the same for our joint effort on Fokker D.VII aces,Volume 1: Jagdgeschwader Aces. I don't know when these will come out, as I'm pretty sure Tony hasn't started editing the D.VII book yet. The Camel book will probably be out before the D.VII book, perhaps around the end of this year. Norman will be writing a book on Sopwith Triplane aces, I think, and we will do a second volume on D.VII aces (non-Jagdgeschwader pilots). Eventually I'm sure there will be one on SE5a aces. And yes, Tony has agreed that if I can write a book on Pfalz aces, they'll publish it. As you guessed, the problem will be coming up with enough "aces" and color schemes. Any ace who was photographed anywhere near a Pfalz D.III or D.IIIa will probably qualify as a "Pfalz ace" !! I may have to include some Pfalz eindeckers and even a Pfalz D.VIII and D.XII or two. Fun !!" Matt Bittner This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:29:52 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: <00d701c24446$b1792020$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ernest! > I think I understand the vac process, but > you said something about needing a vac set-up that can do female moulds. > Could yuou explain that some more? Male mould: when the pattern pulls the heated plastic sheet to conform to the desired shape, usually done in vacforming rigs wich suck the air from below the pattern and pulls the sheet over the mold. That's why you have to carve/shape the pattern taking It's a more sophisticate method than "pulling" a piece of plastic using just mechanical pressure. Airframe kits are made like this. As the final exterior surface of the model is in the opposite side of the pattern, you get little surface detail. Female mould: It's has more complicated procedure (I wonder if that's why is called "female"!). You do a pattern wich has exactly the finished model dimensions and also all scribed lines, including any protuberances if they're rounded enough to be taken by the soft plastic sheet. Then you must cast a mold over this pattern (with resin? With plaster? I can't really say) And then you get an "impression" of the pattern on a concave mold. Next you must drill several tiny holes in the cast to allows the air to be sucked by these places. The procedure is then repeated; hot plastic sheet is sucked by vacuum into the female mold. Rosemont kits are made like this and that's why they have those small "pips" on the surface, that's where the air was sucked from. Accomplisshed master modelers disguise these points as places to be cut from the final model or strut attachments. The finished product is much more detailed than in male moulding but there's one step more on doing the mold. And probably the vaccum forming machines for each type must be slightly different. HTH D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:33:08 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:15:17 -0400 (EDT), Tom Gourdie wrote: > This looks good. If there is a Sopwith Triplane book then to me that is > good news. Also if there is a Pfalz book which deals also with the DXII, > DVIII, and eindekkers as well as DIII/IIIa then that too should be > worthwhile. Funny that Greg says that he '...may have to include...' - does > he not like the other Pfalz products?! No, I'm pretty sure he's coming at it from the point that there weren't many Pfalz "aces" - that is, where a pilot scored the majority of his "kills" while flying *any* Pfalz. So, he'll probably have to approach it from the point where he'll include aces that happened to fly a Pfalz at some point in their career. At least that's my take on it, and I could be wrong. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:38:56 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: D: > and that's why > they have those small "pips" on the surface, that's where the > air was sucked > from. Accomplisshed master modelers disguise these points as > places to be > cut from the final model or strut attachments. Andres Bruun told me that when he did the kits of the Tummelisa and J6A Jaktfalk he had to get in as many holes as possible, there was no way he could disguise that ammount of holes. This was perhaps because his vac-machine was somewhat home-made, main constituents were the family vacuum-cleaner and the toaster. Still good kits, no problem removing a few pips. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:44:29 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: <00ea01c24448$bbf93240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> As more complex are the shapes, nore holes are needed. That's what I've seen in the different vac kits I have. D. Need to get one of those Tummelisas someday! ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: need scratchbuilding advice > D: > > and that's why > > they have those small "pips" on the surface, that's where the > > air was sucked > > from. Accomplisshed master modelers disguise these points as > > places to be > > cut from the final model or strut attachments. > > Andres Bruun told me that when he did the kits of the Tummelisa and > J6A Jaktfalk he had to get in as many holes as possible, there was no > way he could disguise that ammount of holes. This was perhaps because > his vac-machine was somewhat home-made, main constituents were the > family vacuum-cleaner and the toaster. Still good kits, no problem removing > a few pips. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:54:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: More Nats Message-ID: Karen sent in four more Nats images. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:57:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <00ed01c2444a$7d56bba0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Karen throw in my general direction: > But wasn't Giuseppe Surstromming the Swedish-Italian ace who in the third > battle of the Isonzo... Always the easy ones, eh Karen? Let's see what do I have here on the Enciclopaedia... X... T... J... S! "Surstromming" (you know in this book the alphabetical order was taken lightly, so to speak) "Surstromming, Giusseppe Alöis: (1894-1923) Born in Valencia, Botswana, was the son of the Japanese Naval advisor at the local embassy and a Puerto Rican fashion designer who got stranded on a safari. To avoid the dishonour of having an extra-marital child, his Japanese father (whose true name has been forgotten since) christened his son as Björn Tangalanga. Years later, the boy would change his name again to the more euphonic Giuseppe Alöis Surstromming, as noted in the Civil Registry of Baden-Baden, North Tibethan District. Giuseppe was fascinated by the early aviators, so he managed to take lessons of flight while he was in Paris where he was working as an apprentice chef. As the War broke, he tried to enlist on the French Air Service but the High Command, due Giuseppe uncertain origins, arrested him as a spy. He was found innocent and released in 1916, but while in prison he met some real austrian spies, made good friends and then decided to enlist in the K.U.K. Aviation at once. He made his first flight well after the Third Battle of Isonzo was finished, but as its results were inconclusive (proven by the fact that there was a Fourth Battle of Isonzo, and even a Fifth) the Imperial High Command found in the young but experienced Giuseppe the perfect man to be made responsible of the disaster. So he was again arrested and released, but several years later in 1923, when he was the last man freed by an Allied Martial Law that never quite explained themselves why they had a cook so many years in confinement. Giuseppe was so happy to be free again and survived the war and ready to start a new life, that he ran out of the jail doors into the middle of the street, where a truck carrying bakery goods hit him and killed the unfortunate man in a final irony of fate." D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:53:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: We seem to be collectively stunned by this Diego, to think that I never heard about this valuable nugget of swedish aviation history. Wait, I think I do remember, Guiseppe was supposed to fly an Ansaldo Balilla in the 4th Swedish fighter competition of 1923, they had to send D'anunzio instead, he got into trouble with one of those streamlined thingies, so that old villain Hermann Goering won in a Fokker DVII. In fact Sparmann had already bribed the swedish millitary to buy Phönix DIII's, so none of it mattered anyway. IIRC /Neil North ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:58:53 -0500 (CDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Sad news Message-ID: <200208151158.g7FBwrV09950@king1.kingsnake.com> Just saw on Aerodrome Folder that the late Cole Palen's wife - Rita - passed away. :`-( Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:08:15 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <000f01c24454$6fe7d080$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil from the North wrote: > they had to send D'anunzio > instead, he got into trouble with one of those streamlined thingies, so > that old villain Hermann Goering won in a Fokker DVII. Yes, but the excuses D'Annunzio told after his demise on the competition were so beautiful! ".. O thunderous Gods from the skies, thou hast taken the Victory and denieth from my eager hands..." The entire audience weeped! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:18:22 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: > Yes, but the excuses D'Annunzio told after his demise on the > competition > were so beautiful! > ".. O thunderous Gods from the skies, thou hast taken the Victory and > denieth from my eager hands..." > The entire audience weeped! > D. Thats his version, in truth the whole audience were eating surstromming and drinking schnapps, the raw onions they ate with the fish made them cry! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:20:09 +0200 (CEST) From: knuterha@eunet.no To: Subject: Need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: <1069.193.214.111.226.1029414009.squirrel@webmail.kpnqwest.no> Hei, I have both the kits that Neil refers to, it was surprisingly easy to remove the many pips and prepare the parts. There were even some basic panel lines and reasonable representation of linen covering. The Jaktfalk built into a decent model, Anders has every reason to be happy with the outcome, especially given the equipment he used. It seems like it is more dependent of how you use it than the price of your set-up. Eders Knut Erik Neil C. wrote: > Andres Bruun told me that when he did the kits of the Tummelisa and J6A > Jaktfalk he had to get in as many holes as possible, there was no way he > could disguise that ammount of holes. This was perhaps because his > vac-machine was somewhat home-made, main constituents were the family > vacuum-cleaner and the toaster. Still good kits, no problem removing a > few pips. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:22:36 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <003901c24456$71834620$d9ed19ce@dv2980> D. And you're wasting your time on a paying journalism job?? There *has* to be a call for someone with your imagination out there somewhere. Maybe you could start a "WWI - 1919" movement like the "Luftwaffe - 1946" guys and do bios and profiles of all the aces & planes... DV unsubbing and off to the shark-haunted Maine coast for a few days :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:58 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Sweden > Karen throw in my general direction: > > But wasn't Giuseppe Surstromming the Swedish-Italian ace who in the third > > battle of the Isonzo... > > Always the easy ones, eh Karen? Let's see what do I have here on the > Enciclopaedia... X... T... J... S! "Surstromming" (you know in this book the > alphabetical order was taken lightly, so to speak) > "Surstromming, Giusseppe Alöis: (1894-1923) Born in Valencia, Botswana, was > the son of the Japanese Naval advisor at the local embassy and a Puerto > Rican fashion designer who got stranded on a safari. To avoid the dishonour > of having an extra-marital child, his Japanese father (whose true name has > been forgotten since) christened his son as Björn Tangalanga. Years later, > the boy would change his name again to the more euphonic Giuseppe Alöis > Surstromming, as noted in the Civil Registry of Baden-Baden, North Tibethan > District. > Giuseppe was fascinated by the early aviators, so he managed to take lessons > of flight while he was in Paris where he was working as an apprentice chef. > As the War broke, he tried to enlist on the French Air Service but the High > Command, due Giuseppe uncertain origins, arrested him as a spy. He was found > innocent and released in 1916, but while in prison he met some real austrian > spies, made good friends and then decided to enlist in the K.U.K. Aviation > at once. > He made his first flight well after the Third Battle of Isonzo was finished, > but as its results were inconclusive (proven by the fact that there was a > Fourth Battle of Isonzo, and even a Fifth) the Imperial High Command found > in the young but experienced Giuseppe the perfect man to be made responsible > of the disaster. So he was again arrested and released, but several years > later in 1923, when he was the last man freed by an Allied Martial Law that > never quite explained themselves why they had a cook so many years in > confinement. Giuseppe was so happy to be free again and survived the war and > ready to start a new life, that he ran out of the jail doors into the middle > of the street, where a truck carrying bakery goods hit him and killed the > unfortunate man in a final irony of fate." > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:34:01 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <1029414841.3d5b9fb9ce3e2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting David Vosburgh : > There *has* to be a call forsomeone with your imagination out there >somewhere. Maybe you could start a "WWI - 1919" movement like the "Luftwaffe - >1946" guys and do bios and profiles of all the aces & planes... > Well, I have a Fokker DVIII that's earmarked for Republic Of Scotland Air Corps markings........ Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:40:15 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sweden... and Scotland Message-ID: >From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com > > There *has* to be a call forsomeone with your imagination out there > >somewhere. Maybe you could start a "WWI - 1919" movement like >the >"Luftwaffe - 1946" guys and do bios and profiles of all the aces > > >planes... >Well, I have a Fokker DVIII that's earmarked for Republic Of Scotland >Air >Corps markings........ Well David, that certainly requires considerable imagination!:) Michael PS I could claim some Scottish links because I have cousins in Glasgow and my Father was in the Royal Scots:). Oh and I like those tins of biscuits with the tartan pattern. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:43:18 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Sweden... and Scotland Message-ID: > Michael > > PS I could claim some Scottish links because I have cousins > in Glasgow and > my Father was in the Royal Scots:). Oh and I like those tins > of biscuits > with the tartan pattern. > You mean Crawfords biscuits I presume:-) /Neil C (one eighth scotch) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:01:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: These are the Cumulus vacforms, with white metal parts from Aeroclub and decals from either Specialtryck or Flying Colours can't remember which. I have the Jaktfalk and it is a good kit like you say, better than the Tummelisa I believe. He used the toaster to soften his sheets of plasticard, then slipped them into his vac-box, started the vacuum cleaner and another kit was produced. He got so many comments about the toaster, that he built a scale model of it, and entered the Swedish Nat's with it, I think it was a class winner. /Neil C. > > Hei, > > I have both the kits that Neil refers to, it was surprisingly easy to > remove the many pips and prepare the parts. There were even > some basic > panel lines and reasonable representation of linen covering. > The Jaktfalk built into a decent model, Anders has every reason to be > happy with the outcome, especially given the equipment he used. > It seems like it is more dependent of how you use it than the price > of your set-up. > > > Eders > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:08:12 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Sweden... and Scotland Message-ID: <02Aug15.140827bst.118133@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> Crawfords biscuits are one and McVitie's used to do a nice shortbread with Edinburgh connections in a green-based tartan tin. Nothing OT although a) I am sure Crawford and McVitie products would have been in the kitbags of all Scotttish servicemen 1914-18 (along with the liquid Scottish product) and b) Dave F's Republic of Scotland airmen could nibble them in between sorties in their Fokker DVIIIs. Tom (entirely Scottish but living in England) -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: 15 August 2002 13:45 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Sweden... and Scotland > Michael > > PS I could claim some Scottish links because I have cousins > in Glasgow and > my Father was in the Royal Scots:). Oh and I like those tins > of biscuits > with the tartan pattern. > You mean Crawfords biscuits I presume:-) /Neil C (one eighth scotch) This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:27:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: <200208151327.JAA27050@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > And yes, Tony has agreed that if I can write a book on Pfalz > aces, they'll publish it. As you guessed, the problem will be > coming up with enough "aces" and color schemes. Any ace who was > photographed anywhere near a Pfalz D.III or D.IIIa will probably > qualify as a "Pfalz ace" !! I may have to include some Pfalz > eindeckers and even a Pfalz D.VIII and D.XII or two. Fun !!" Why not step up and just call it Phalz Aces and not limit yourself to just the D-III(a)? Hey, did any aces test-fly the Pfalz Dr-I (grin) =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:39:46 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: <02Aug15.143958bst.118159@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> There is a photograph of Richthofen in the cockpit of a Pfalz DrI. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu] Sent: 15 August 2002 14:30 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Osprey titles coming > And yes, Tony has agreed that if I can write a book on Pfalz > aces, they'll publish it. As you guessed, the problem will be > coming up with enough "aces" and color schemes. Any ace who was > photographed anywhere near a Pfalz D.III or D.IIIa will probably > qualify as a "Pfalz ace" !! I may have to include some Pfalz > eindeckers and even a Pfalz D.VIII and D.XII or two. Fun !!" Why not step up and just call it Phalz Aces and not limit yourself to just the D-III(a)? Hey, did any aces test-fly the Pfalz Dr-I (grin) ============================================================================ === Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org ============================================================================ === This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:44:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Osprey titles coming Message-ID: <200208151344.JAA96971@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Well there you go! > > There is a photograph of Richthofen in the cockpit of a Pfalz DrI. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu] > Sent: 15 August 2002 14:30 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Osprey titles coming > > > > And yes, Tony has agreed that if I can write a book on Pfalz > > aces, they'll publish it. As you guessed, the problem will be > > coming up with enough "aces" and color schemes. Any ace who was > > photographed anywhere near a Pfalz D.III or D.IIIa will probably > > qualify as a "Pfalz ace" !! I may have to include some Pfalz > > eindeckers and even a Pfalz D.VIII and D.XII or two. Fun !!" > > Why not step up and just call it Phalz Aces and not limit yourself > to just the D-III(a)? > > Hey, did any aces test-fly the Pfalz Dr-I (grin) > > ============================================================================ > === > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - > Southside > University of New Hampshire > +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: > http://www.wwi-models.org > ============================================================================ > === > > > This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any > purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action > based on them. > > E-Mails are susceptible to interference. 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