WWI Digest 4585 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: I Know it's ot but anyway... by Crawford Neil 2) RE: re The Itch by "Bob Pearson" 3) RE: re The Itch by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Another one finished by "Matt Bittner" 5) RE: Another one finished by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Meikraft Caproni by "Diego Fernetti" 7) RE: re The Itch by Crawford Neil 8) Decal request by Eric GALLAUD 9) Re: Lead Stains & Sasquatch WAS Re: Superglue by "Mike Muth" 10) by Peter Fedders 11) RE: re The Itch by Greg West 12) re The Itch by "NEIL EDDY" 13) Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by "Marek Mincbergr" 14) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "Dave Burke" 15) TEST 1 by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by Larry Marshall 17) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by "Marek Mincbergr" 18) new engine pictures by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Sweden by "Lance Krieg" 20) Re: new engine pictures by "Dale Sebring" 21) Re: Sweden by Karen Rychlewski 22) New Osprey series by Mark Miller 23) Re: Decal request by "Lance Krieg" 24) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by "Lance Krieg" 25) Hi-Tech Gotha and Voison by jesse thorn 26) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by jesse thorn 27) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "ernest thomas" 28) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "Dave Burke" 29) Re: need scratchbuilding advice by "ernest thomas" 30) Re: by "Mike Muth" 31) Re: Decal request by Eric GALLAUD 32) =?gb2312?q?=C0=CF=C5=F3=D3=D1=A3=AC=BD=FC=C0=B4=BA=C3=C2=F0=A3=BF_?= by =?gb2312?q?=C0=CF=C0=EE_?= 33) Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg by "Marek Mincbergr" 34) ¿Ü¿Ü ·þÊÎ// by info@france-coco.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:12:27 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: I Know it's ot but anyway... Message-ID: Yes wow!, Did it win anything, it looks like it was in a competition? /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 13 augusti 2002 18:56 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] I Know it's ot but anyway... > > > Check this out! > http://digilander.libero.it/quattrogattimostre/WMEfoto2002/r10.jpg > http://digilander.libero.it/quattrogattimostre/WMEfoto2002/r11.jpg > Awesome! > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:13:44 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: re The Itch Message-ID: <102932004301@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> I bought my case 16 years ago and there is about a 1/16" gap between the two sliding panels. .. very little dust gets in . .. some is on the shelves, but none on the models themselves. Bob (who is contemplating returning 30+ OT models to the ceiling of either the new model room or bandroom (former is about 10x12, latter is 30 x12) or am I too old to do so now and will it scare off any potential roommate of the opposite sex ... hmmm. ...) ---------- >From: Crawford Neil >> > > My case has poorly fitting doors (after the last move) but actually > very little dust gets in. So I don't think I'd bother spending extra > money on sealing. FWIW. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:29:37 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: re The Itch Message-ID: <00e601c2437d$7da91080$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Bob > (who is contemplating returning 30+ OT models to the ceiling of either the > new model room or bandroom (former is about 10x12, latter is 30 x12) or am > I too old to do so now and will it scare off any potential roommate of the > opposite sex ... hmmm. ...) Just be sure that the band drummer don't like to juggle with the drumsticks! And for scaring potential female roommates... well, Bob, any girl will consider WW1 planes hanging from the ceiling as cute! I guess so... D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:59:08 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Another one finished Message-ID: Finally! My third Fokker Dr.I is done. The text for the article is done (for the most part - watch your email, Bob). Now to shoot some images of all three Tripes and get them sent on their way. Hawkeye Dr.I - Jasta 11 machine with the turquoise rear end Roden Dr.I - Jacobs "back up" machine with the white crosses Eduard Dr.I - Jasta 12 machine with the black "teardrop" on the fuselage sides I showed all three to my wife last night, and she liked the Jasta 12 machine best. It does have a lot more too it, plus she doesn't like turquiose. ;-) Woo hoo!! Now to get serious about the Strutter, then the Amodel SPAD... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:08:11 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Another one finished Message-ID: <014901c24382$e115b1a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Conga-Rats, Matt! Looking forward to read the awesome "three-tripe" article on the next IM issue! Now get on those french birds, mon ami! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: [WWI] Another one finished > Finally! My third Fokker Dr.I is done. The text for the article > is done (for the most part - watch your email, Bob). Now to > shoot some images of all three Tripes and get them sent on their > way. > > Hawkeye Dr.I - Jasta 11 machine with the turquoise rear end > Roden Dr.I - Jacobs "back up" machine with the white crosses > Eduard Dr.I - Jasta 12 machine with the black "teardrop" on the > fuselage sides > > I showed all three to my wife last night, and she liked the Jasta > 12 machine best. It does have a lot more too it, plus she > doesn't like turquiose. ;-) > > Woo hoo!! > > Now to get serious about the Strutter, then the Amodel SPAD... > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:12:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Meikraft Caproni Message-ID: <015001c24383$6c630280$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey this seems afforbdable (by now!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1757963205 D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:28:16 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: re The Itch Message-ID: > > Bob > (who is contemplating returning 30+ OT models to the ceiling > of either the > new model room or bandroom (former is about 10x12, latter is > 30 x12) or am > I too old to do so now and will it scare off any potential > roommate of the > opposite sex ... hmmm. ...) On the contrary, the opposite sex thinks it shows you're nerdy but safe, like Diego say's cute. You'll have more problems with male non-modellers, they will scorn you! HTH (but I doubt it) Personally I wouldn't hesitate, and actually I have a paper model falcon (actually a Merlin) hanging from my ceiling. Best regards Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:55:40 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Decal request Message-ID: <3D5A534C.293F51BB@club-internet.fr> Hello everybody, I know that the question were asked few month ago, but I have not keep the emails and I didn't retrieve that in the digest. I have a Nieuport 11 1/48 (AJP) to build and I want to have a clear dope finish at the end. I would like to know if there is a nice marking in the AG Lafayette decal sheet n°66 or on the decal sheet n°111 Groupe de Combat No. 12 - Les Cigognes: I - Escadrille MS/N/Spa 3 - Les Cigognes de Guynemer. Thank you Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:43:21 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Lead Stains & Sasquatch WAS Re: Superglue Message-ID: <007801c24398$8e362bc0$cb47bacc@ptdprolog.net> Dave F writes: I have found even if > you hold a wooden toothpick soaked in kicker near the part, the fumes are > sometimes enough to do the job That's the technique that I use. I keep worrying that if I use a metal tweezer, etc, the kicker will glue it to the part! Same with micro-brushes. After using once or twice, they seem to get hard. Wooden toothpicks are cheap, disposable and work. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: models models Message-ID: Squadron advertises the HiTech Gotha GIII. Is it really in stock?? thanks peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:05:14 -0400 From: Greg West To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: re The Itch Message-ID: they say gold bond powder works? regarding models out and potential mates. in a test this past week, with four models clearly visible and little scraps of balsa and tissue on the floor around my desk. mission was completed with not a word said. (regarding my nerdy hobby) re: cases, check out this site they're the folks that sell most of the archival stuff that major museum restoration depts use. (warning ridiculously expensive cases, other stuff reasonable) http://www.archivalsuppliers.com/shop/category146.html greg > I saw a >> cracking glass display unit on Saturday that would be ideal >> for models - unlike >> others, this one had a door with no gaps, and a strip of >> rubber beading would >> seal it completely, making it dust proof (ish). Now if I can >> only persuade >> SWMBO that we need an aeroplane display. >> >> Dave >> > >My case has poorly fitting doors (after the last move) but actually >very little dust gets in. So I don't think I'd bother spending extra >money on sealing. FWIW. >/Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 01:21:59 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: re The Itch Message-ID: <000f01c243a6$55d2b6a0$3b2432d2@default> Diego! You kill me! ROTFLMHO!!! All the Best Neil E... Hmm... I'd better get rid of that Bundy Rum.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:45:03 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?WWI_Mailing_list_-_zpr=E1vy?= Subject: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <000001c243ad$2ad069a0$7df35ad4@j> Hi all, I would like to ask, if anyone of you has cockpit pictures (photographs or drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (any sub-version, both front and rear)? Next, has someone any more shots of Hansa-Brandenburg W.29(U) then are published in Windsock Datafile. It was licence build HB in UFAG factory during late 1918 and later used by Red hungarian Air Force. Has anyone idea about their colours. I suppose some shade of blue-gray, but who knows. At least one Rad Air Force W.29 was mottled. What do you think about its colour. If you have some pictures, send me them off-list. Ideas are for discussion here. Thank you all BR Marek ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:24 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: <001b01c243b2$8c3f6600$61e979a5@s0024008072> > Dave, Do I understand you correctly, that you just skipped > the molding completely, and used CA-plasticized wood parts instead. That's right, you heard right - for a 1/48 Pitts like Ernie is doing, and since he wants to cast them in resin, doing the CA and wood works great. I'd recommend basswood, but potentially balsa could be used, although the actual grain is too big with balsa and it won't hold up to shaping as well as basswood. Just use the really thin watery CA and you can create a wood master that is ready for use in making an RTV mold. Plus, the master can be primed and scribed before casting, saving a wasted mold. DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:38:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Cc: "Diego Fernetti" Subject: TEST 1 Message-ID: <011301c243b1$08e6a1c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> sorry, I'm testing a new equipment... D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:06:18 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <200208141306.18121.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I would like to ask, if anyone of you has cockpit pictures (photographs or > drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (any sub-version, both front and rear)? Are you building one of these from a kit? If so, who makes one and how is the kit? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:32:02 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <004001c243b8$82c09da0$14eb5ad4@j> I will do it from HR resin kit. It is 1/48 ser 26/27. Not so bad, but a lot of work needed. The cockpit area (front decking) and ribs detail are not "perfect." But if you dislike vacuforms, no other chance. It is also done in 1/72 together with B.I. BR Marek > > I would like to ask, if anyone of you has cockpit pictures (photographs or > > drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (any sub-version, both front and rear)? > > Are you building one of these from a kit? If so, who makes one and how is the > kit? > > Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:51:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: new engine pictures Message-ID: <002e01c243bb$49a6aac0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sanjeev! Here are some shots from my friend Martín Afflitto that may be very useful for your MoS project http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Monosouppe/index.html (watch out the text wrap) These were uploaded by Allan just a few days ago! HTH D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:50:05 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Sweden Message-ID: "And I thought the Swedes had a reputation for quality design and construction too." This is the same country that sells surstromming as a food, so be careful! Id rather eat a jar of vegemite than be in the same room when a tin of that rotten fish is opened. I see no way to make this OT... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:12:14 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: new engine pictures Message-ID: <001f01c243c6$8043ae60$fc9dfea9@RDS> Sanjeev, I can get a library book on rotory engines that have pics of the Mono if you would like. Just let me know & the next time I'm in town I'll check it out & send you scans-I believe D might have some copies I send him several months ago???? D??? Best regards, Dale > Sanjeev! > Here are some shots from my friend Martín Afflitto that may be very useful > for your MoS project > http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Monosouppe/index.html (watch out > the text wrap) > These were uploaded by Allan just a few days ago! > HTH > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:49:29 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <3D5AB449.492C9C86@earthlink.net> Lance Krieg wrote: > "And I thought the Swedes had a reputation for quality design and > construction too." > > This is the same country that sells surstromming as a food, so be > careful! Id rather eat a jar of vegemite than be in the same room when > a tin of that rotten fish is opened. > > I see no way to make this OT... But wasn't Giuseppe Surstromming the Swedish-Italian ace who in the third battle of the Isonzo... --to you, Diego Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New Osprey series Message-ID: <20020814200122.22167.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all I have recently heard that Osprey is planning to publish a new series of books on modeling. I believe that the vast majority of the series will be dedicated to ot subjects - but they will also cover some of the most commonly modeled WW1 AC :-) I haven't been around much, so this might be old news. but I thought you guys would be interested Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:32:38 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Decal request Message-ID: Eric is building a 1/48 N.XI and: "...would like to know if there is a nice marking in the AG Lafayette decal sheet n 66 or on the decal sheet n 111 Groupe de Combat No. 12 - Les Cigognes: I - Escadrille MS/N/Spa 3 - Les Cigognes de Guynemer." What in particular are you looking for? Sheet 66 has 13 N.XIs and XVIs, while there are about the same for the Storks on Sheet 111. I have the latter sheet and can check particulars, if you are interested. LMK... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:38:02 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: Marek wants: "...cockpit pictures (photographs or drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg C.I" I was looking at the O'Connor book on Austrian aircraft last night, and THINK I recall a very nice cockpit photo for the C.I. Have you got this book? "Next, has someone any more shots of Hansa-Brandenburg W.29... " I am convinced that the cockpit shot of the "two-gun" W.12 is really a W.29; this is in the Datafile on the W.12 as well as the Harleyford Fighters book under "Cockpits" (where I believe it was originally mis-identified as a W.12). Take a look and see if you agree... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:24:54 -0400 From: jesse thorn To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hi-Tech Gotha and Voison Message-ID: <464A82CA-AFCC-11D6-B13B-003065ED7720@mindspring.com> it is listed as an 'advance order' - not yet in stock. they also list a 1/48 hi-tech voison la-10 night bomber as an 'advance order' kit. i wonder if either of these kits will be the 2003 squadron kit of the year? ;^) jesse On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 09:55 AM, Peter Fedders wrote: > > > Squadron advertises the HiTech Gotha GIII. Is it really in stock?? > > thanks > > peter > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:34:33 -0400 From: jesse thorn To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <9FE2ADF2-AFCD-11D6-B13B-003065ED7720@mindspring.com> marek, there are a few interior pix in 'austro-hungarian aircraft of world war one' from flying machines press. let me know if you would like these. if you have some patience i will scan them in and post them on my website. don't tell the copyright police. by the way, what is your email address? i tried to reply offline to you at marek.mincbergr@polabi.celakovice.cz and it was rejected by my mail server. i don't think it likes the '.' to the left of the '@' .... jesse On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 12:11 PM, Marek Mincbergr wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to ask, if anyone of you has cockpit pictures (photographs > or > drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (any sub-version, both front and > rear)? > > Next, has someone any more shots of Hansa-Brandenburg W.29(U) then are > published in Windsock Datafile. It was licence build HB in UFAG factory > during late 1918 and later used by Red hungarian Air Force. Has anyone > idea > about their colours. I suppose some shade of blue-gray, but who knows. > At > least one Rad Air Force W.29 was mottled. What do you think about its > colour. > > If you have some pictures, send me them off-list. Ideas are for > discussion > here. > > Thank you all > > BR > Marek > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:37:23 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: >From: Steven Perry >rotsa ruck This brought back such fond memories of sitting around listening to my Dad's Allen Sherman records when I was a kid. Thanks. And thanks for all the advice offered by the few listee's who replied. Tom, I like the idea of using a female mold to vac into, but I need to learn a lot more about the procedure. I think I understand the vac process, but you said something about needing a vac set-up that can do female moulds. Could yuou explain that some more? I remember Bob Norgren posted someting about this a while back and I kept it in the inbox for a while thinking it would come in handy someday, but alas, it got dumped in a massive clean-up. Maybe Bob, if you're reading this, could contact me off list and tell me some more about doing this kind of vac forming.(pretty please?) But it also got me thinking of just producing this kit as a vac instead of a resin. That would definitely allow me to bring it to market at a cheaper price, or at least include more goodies like lots of decal options for the same price. Dave, it would be easier(I think) to just carve the master full sized like you suggest, and the scribing some of the detail into the primed surface makes sense too. But how do I produce a thin-walled, detailed cockpit cavity from this block of wood? I mean, I know it 'could' be done, but wouldn't I get a better end result if I had vac shells to work from? And thanks Neil, who probably offered the best advice when he said, "The most important thing is to actually get doing something, most mistakes can be corrected." Let's see if I can put your advice into practice. E. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:00:25 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: <000901c243f7$2477a880$e1e479a5@s0024008072> -> Dave, it would be easier(I think) to just carve the master full sized like > you suggest, and the scribing some of the detail into the primed surface > makes sense too. But how do I produce a thin-walled, detailed cockpit cavity > from this block of wood? I mean, I know it 'could' be done, but wouldn't I > get a better end result if I had vac shells to work from? Not neccessarily. You could carefully cut a tub into the master, or cut out the cockpit area and fabricate it from styrene. You could go ahead and make the whole thing vac though. WHat do I know? DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:56:26 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: need scratchbuilding advice Message-ID: >From: "Dave Burke" >WHat do I know? More than I know. E. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:09:21 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Message-ID: <012b01c243f8$639ed820$cb47bacc@ptdprolog.net> Peter I think it is listed in their "upcoming" list. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Fedders To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: [WWI] > > > Squadron advertises the HiTech Gotha GIII. Is it really in stock?? > > thanks > > peter > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 05:24:45 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Decal request Message-ID: <3D5B1EFD.E7DC92A@club-internet.fr> I am looking for a plane with mainly CDL scheme, and with attractive personnal marking. Why mainly CDL ? because this kit is a photoetched one covered with paper, and you can see the structure by transparency, if the fabric remain unpainted ;-) Eric Lance Krieg a écrit : > Eric is building a 1/48 N.XI and: > > "...would like to know if there is a nice marking in the AG Lafayette > decal sheet n 66 or on the decal sheet n 111 Groupe de Combat No. 12 > - Les Cigognes: I - Escadrille MS/N/Spa 3 - Les Cigognes de Guynemer." > > What in particular are you looking for? Sheet 66 has 13 N.XIs and > XVIs, while there are about the same for the Storks on Sheet 111. I > have the latter sheet and can check particulars, if you are interested. > > LMK... > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:10:24 +0800 From: =?gb2312?q?=C0=CF=C0=EE_?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: =?gb2312?q?=C0=CF=C5=F3=D3=D1=A3=AC=BD=FC=C0=B4=BA=C3=C2=F0=A3=BF_?= Message-ID: <3D5AAE7000028751@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) This is a multi-part message in MIME format --b71f8694-b046-11d6-a4af-00e04c4a956b Content-Type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =F4=E4=B4=E4.com club
--b71f8694-b046-11d6-a4af-00e04c4a956b-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:16:36 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: Re: Two times Hansa-Brandenburg Message-ID: <002901c24413$1ef909a0$167e92c3@j> HI, no, in O'Connors book (AH Aces) is nothing. In AH planes is only one shot of front instrument panel. With W.29 there is not problem with interior, but with pictures of W.29(U). That means I am looking for pictures of AH W.29. BR Marek > Marek wants: > > "...cockpit pictures (photographs or drawings) of Hansa-Brandenburg > C.I" > > I was looking at the O'Connor book on Austrian aircraft last night, and > THINK I recall a very nice cockpit photo for the C.I. Have you got this > book? > > "Next, has someone any more shots of Hansa-Brandenburg W.29... " > > I am convinced that the cockpit shot of the "two-gun" W.12 is really a > W.29; this is in the Datafile on the W.12 as well as the Harleyford > Fighters book under "Cockpits" (where I believe it was originally > mis-identified as a W.12). > > Take a look and see if you agree... > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:24:49 From: info@france-coco.com To: wwj@suneach.com Subject: ¿Ü¿Ü ·þÊÎ// Message-ID: <200208140624.g7E6OYj30971@mail>






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