WWI Digest 4581 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Finally - Nats images online!! by SSH 2) Humbrol 94 by "NEIL EDDY" 3) Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 4) Kennedy Giant by David Fleming 5) Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 6) RE: Kennedy Giant by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 9) RE: Finally - Nats images online!! by Crawford Neil 10) Re: The \"Itch\" by Crawford Neil 11) Nats images on line! by "Diego Fernetti" 12) RE: The \"Itch\" by "Diego Fernetti" 13) RE: Nats images on line! by Crawford Neil 14) RE: The worst way to get some modeling time by "Diego Fernetti" 15) RE: Nats images on line! by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: The \"Itch\" by "Diego Fernetti" 17) RE: Nats images on line! by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Nats images on line! by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Re: The \"Itch\" by Tom Gourdie 20) RE: Nats images on line! by Crawford Neil 21) Re: The \"Itch\" by Crawford Neil 22) RE: Nats images on line! by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: The \"Itch\" by Larry Marshall 24) RE: Nats images on line! by Crawford Neil 25) Re: The \"Itch\" by Crawford Neil 26) RE: Nats images on line! by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: The \"Itch\" by "Diego Fernetti" 28) Re: The \"Itch\" by Larry Marshall 29) RE: Finally - Nats images online!! by "Matt Bittner" 30) Re: Nats images on line! by "Matt Bittner" 31) RE: The \"Itch\" by "Matt Bittner" 32) RE: Nats images on line! by "Matt Bittner" 33) RE: Finally - Nats images online!! by "Diego Fernetti" 34) RE: Nats images on line! by "Matt Bittner" 35) RE: Nats images on line! by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:36:03 -0400 From: SSH To: Subject: Re: Finally - Nats images online!! Message-ID: <3D5795A60004FD12@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Matt, Pretty nice work with the merged photos. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:02:36 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Humbrol 94 Message-ID: <000f01c2429f$c9d97460$30f932d2@default> Hi Marcio; i saw you were having trouble locating Humbrol 94 Brown Yellow. According to Urban Fredricksson's tables, its equivalent is a Revell 88. HTH All the Best Neil E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:43:32 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? Message-ID: <1029231812.3d58d4c4d7492@netmail.pipex.net> > > I did a similar thing on a PBY-5a (my next door neighbour flew them WW2 > so I > was trying to doa 1/144th scale for him). I failed at that model. One > thing that happened was similar to your experience. I have a jar full > of > tiny lead spheres or whatever and their lead dust comes off when you > handle > them. I did the same. Poured the lead spheres into the space, dumped > thin > liquid CA over them, followed by a healthy dose of CA Kicker. A sort of > a > black stain appeared underneath - I think soem of the mixture had leaked > out > somehow. I don't think it's fatal to the model. Try leaving it for a > day > or two then respray with the primer and see what happens. IIRC, this is the kicker rather than the CA that is doing the damage - Mark, what's in kicker again ? Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:45:57 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Subject: Kennedy Giant Message-ID: <1029231957.3d58d555e9787@netmail.pipex.net> Browsing through a WW1 book last night, I came across the above a/c, which was heavily influenced by a certain large aircraft by Mr Sikorski. Wonder if a conversion is possible.....? dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:56:25 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? Message-ID: I think its tetrachloromethane. Nasty N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:00:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Kennedy Giant Message-ID: <007801c242b0$36fb2060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I read about that one too, but I can't recall where... Maybe a WWI Aero? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: [WWI] Kennedy Giant > > Browsing through a WW1 book last night, I came across the above a/c, which was > heavily influenced by a certain large aircraft by Mr Sikorski. > > Wonder if a conversion is possible.....? > > dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:02:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? Message-ID: <007e01c242b0$8c868a60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > IIRC, this is the kicker rather than the CA that is doing the damage - Mark, > what's in kicker again ? When I spill some drops of this nasty stuff in bare plastic it is quickly "absorbed" by the plastic surface so I guess that's possible that it may permeate all the way thru a model wall if you use too much. That's what happen when you go ot, Hans! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:08:05 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Superglue diffusing through plastic?? Message-ID: <1029233285.3d58da85c36e6@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Nigel Cheffers-Heard : > I think its tetrachloromethane. > That would certainly act as a solvent on plastic IIRC. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:24 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Finally - Nats images online!! Message-ID: Thanks Matt, that's terrific. I think Sanjeevs Fe2 looks wonderfull, did it win anything? Tom's DH2 is awesome, so is Toms Pup. I note that there is a Spad 61 in there, it looks very nice, ot but I'm not complaining! And I wish people would give up the idea of spraying french 5-colour camo as has been done on the otherwise very nice Spad 16. Thats all I had time to look at. /Neil C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:20:57 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: > Discipline! One model at a time, and you can't even fondle > another kit > (except new purchases) until the old one is wrapped up and off the > bench. It is best not to even consider what scheme or > modifications you > might make to the project after the current one. Otherwise you never > finish any of them.... eh, Diego? > > Lance > I entirely agree with Lance on this one, it's the only way. I'm not as disciplined as Lance, I allow myself to go up to 2-3 models, which is where I am now, but thats the absolute limit. I have to finish at least one of these (in fact 2) before I can start a new one, thats a good incentive to get them finished. I would never go further than fondling, my wife wouldn't like it. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:32:16 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Nats images on line! Message-ID: <013c01c242b4$b2b75120$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> The Eduard kit I presume, but what a great paint job! http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m122_jpg.jpg Spad XI or XVI? Who made it? Neil? Is it right that the edges of camo are soft? http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m201_jpg.jpg Hey Dave V. look this one! To me this grey looks a tad too dark compared to what I recall from Pensacola. http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m252_jpg.jpg Besides these, Karen's Clyno Diorama, the DH2, FE2b and Pup are great from all angles. I can learn a lot of just these shots. The lower row of pictures is awesome as well, with all the listees having fun. It's weird, but Michael K. looks younger on every photo session (be careful with the contracts you sign, Michael) and Brian Nicklas strikes the same pose on each picture... hmmm, maybe he sends a stand in 1:1 picture, like that of President Bush at the amusement parks? And this one http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/nats12_jpg.jpg is very SCARY! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:38:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <014c01c242b5$9e9872e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt scratches: > It's "The Itch". That feeling you get when you must start a new > model, regardless of the other dozen you have in progress. I usually succumb. Yes, I admit it, I'm weak. But look at it this way: I have a hobby to have fun; sometimes some kit building/painting turns into a chore, so the fun is spoiled; someone here mentions a specific airplane or technique, or I read a book or mag about something new. The Voices start shouting inside my head (and the dog keeps telling me "kill them, KILL THEM!") I just have to start another kit. > I have "The Itch" to start a Nie.24bis and a Fokker D.VII. Oh nice! Wich kits? D. darn it started again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:39:15 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: > Spad XI or XVI? Who made it? Neil? Is it right that the edges > of camo are > soft? > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m201_jpg.jpg > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I saw it mentioned on the digests a while back, someone knew who done it, the same guy as the Salmson I believe. It's very nice, but this idea of spraying camouflage that is obviously painted on dries me nuts. Don't people look at photos? /Neil North ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:41:27 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The worst way to get some modeling time Message-ID: <015401c242b5$fa42f0c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry to hear this Pedro. But it's better to find out about the steering failure before leaving than during the trip. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro Soares To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [WWI] The worst way to get some modeling time > And just when I was about to pack the girls and the tent into the station > wagon and travel to Salamanca for a week of sightseeing, the bloody thing > found it better to spit out al the steering fluid, leaving a nasty stain > on the road and me hopeless and helplessly grounded for what looks like more > than a couple of days, since my usual mechanic is on vacation and Ford > wouldn't give me the car back in less than a week... > > I'm trying a last hope ditch tomorrow at an auto repair centre at the local > supermarket, but it's looking like I'll get some extra days to work on my > Gotha... > > ;-(. > > P.S. > > I think te SPAD XII/XIII book is pretty good and my favorite profile is that > of Spiderman, or is that Sgt Fernand Chavannes.... > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:48:50 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: <016d01c242b7$02c04a80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yes the Salmson http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m311_jpg.jpg looks like the work of the same airbrush. I wonder if Michael K. recalls this guy's name. D. PS: Neil if looking at these pictures dries your ....err... I would avoid looking at them again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > but this idea > of spraying camouflage that is obviously painted on dries me nuts. > Don't people look at photos? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:51:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <017701c242b7$72a72440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lance wrote: > Discipline! One model at a time, and you can't even fondle another kit > (except new purchases) until the old one is wrapped up and off the > bench. It is best not to even consider what scheme or modifications you > might make to the project after the current one. Otherwise you never > finish any of them.... eh, Diego? Yeah, you're right... I'll try... D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:58:35 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: > > Yes the Salmson > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/m311_jpg.jp > g looks like > the work of the same airbrush. I wonder if Michael K. recalls > this guy's > name. > D. > PS: Neil if looking at these pictures dries your ....err... I > would avoid > looking at them again. DOH! You drive me nuts too. Oh and I forgot to say it's a Spad 11, no cylinder head-cowlings so not a 16. I suspect its from the Planet kit, I think I recognise the decals. What do you think Matt? /Neil C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:06:14 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: <01af01c242b9$710178a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil from the north! > You drive me nuts too. Trapa natens? > Oh and I forgot to say it's a Spad 11, > no cylinder head-cowlings so not a 16. I suspect its from the Planet > kit, I think I recognise the decals. What do you think Matt? Maybe it's a Rosemont vac. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:07:14 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <02Aug13.120728bst.118106@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> I regularly get hell for this. I have a number of what you might call 95% finished efforts. Last night I fished out my (unstarted) Blue Max Phonix DI - you know, just to measure it against the datafile plans - and within seconds Pauline said words to the effect that why couldn't I finish what was sitting about the house before starting yet another one. Words to that effect... I'm sure you can imagine what was actually said! Yep - it's a discipline thing but as Diego points out its also a hobby! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: 13 August 2002 11:23 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: The \"Itch\" > Discipline! One model at a time, and you can't even fondle > another kit > (except new purchases) until the old one is wrapped up and off the > bench. It is best not to even consider what scheme or > modifications you > might make to the project after the current one. Otherwise you never > finish any of them.... eh, Diego? > > Lance > I entirely agree with Lance on this one, it's the only way. I'm not as disciplined as Lance, I allow myself to go up to 2-3 models, which is where I am now, but thats the absolute limit. I have to finish at least one of these (in fact 2) before I can start a new one, thats a good incentive to get them finished. I would never go further than fondling, my wife wouldn't like it. /Neil C. This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. 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Message-ID: > > Maybe it's a Rosemont vac. > D. > Could well be, whatever, he's put a lot of effort into it, done a lovely job of building it, mixed the correct colours, and then literally blew it all with that darned airbrush. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:17:29 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: Actually girls vary quite a lot too, I used to work with a girl who couldn't open a cupboard in her apartment without some half-finished piece of handiwork falling out on her head. She said it was a common phenomena. /Neil C. > > I regularly get hell for this. I have a number of what you > might call 95% > finished efforts. > > Last night I fished out my (unstarted) Blue Max Phonix DI - > you know, just > to measure it against the datafile plans - and within seconds > Pauline said > words to the effect that why couldn't I finish what was > sitting about the > house before starting yet another one. Words to that > effect... I'm sure you > can imagine what was actually said! > > Yep - it's a discipline thing but as Diego points out its > also a hobby! > > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:17:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: <01cb01c242bb$12e04380$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> What an airhead! :-) Anyway, it would be nice to invite him -if he has an Email connection- to hang with us. Sure I would learn a lot from his building skills and he may learn something about french camo in exchange! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:13 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nats images on line! > > > > Maybe it's a Rosemont vac. > > D. > > > > Could well be, whatever, he's put a lot of effort into it, done > a lovely job of building it, mixed the correct colours, and > then literally blew it all with that darned airbrush. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:16:41 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <200208130716.41175.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I entirely agree with Lance on this one, it's the only way. I'm not as > disciplined as Lance, I allow myself to go up to 2-3 models, which is where > I am now, but thats the absolute limit. I have to finish at least one of It's arguable that those without discipline must do only one model at a time and that those with sufficient discipline can balance their activities between several models being built simultaneously :-) > these (in fact 2) before I can start a new one, thats a good incentive to > get them finished. I'm sort of a wierd modeler. I've always felt that it was the process, not the conclusion that was the reason I was in any hobby. Thus, I have no qualms about starting a model, getting bored with it and moving to another. No, this isn't the best way to stack the shelves with models but then worrying about heavy detailing isn't either. Just an alternative thought. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:23:44 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: Yes, now I remember, Matt was going to try and get in touch with him. Hope he doesn't read my last posting, I really did like his model, and we need people who can build like that on-list. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 13 augusti 2002 13:20 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Nats images on line! > > > What an airhead! :-) > Anyway, it would be nice to invite him -if he has an Email > connection- to > hang with us. Sure I would learn a lot from his building > skills and he may > learn something about french camo in exchange! > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:32:44 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: Larry: > I'm sort of a wierd modeler. I've always felt that it was > the process, not > the conclusion that was the reason I was in any hobby. Thus, > I have no > qualms about starting a model, getting bored with it and > moving to another. > A while back we had a discussion about the different kinds of modellers, I think there were 4 kinds, builders, painters, collectors and historians, depending on what mix you have, will result in how your production looks like. I'm mostly a builder, but have a good dollop of collector in me, so I really love adding finished models to my collection, even at a cost to my collection of unfinished models, OTOH cutting out and cleaning up will ruin a kit for the kit-collection, so thats out for me. I think it's just nice that we're all different. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:35:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: <01e401c242bd$8a2aad20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I liked it as well, if he reads our posts I hope he takes it as a good natured rant (do you hear, mysterious french-two-seater-builder?) His models shows a very interesting move towards french aviation (rara avis) and sure I want to know more about him. Maybe he built a Nieuport 12! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > Yes, now I remember, Matt was going to try and get in touch > with him. Hope he doesn't read my last posting, I really did like > his model, and we need people who can build like that on-list. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:45:37 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <01f001c242be$f1012a00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Larry "black hat" wrote: > It's arguable that those without discipline must do only one model at a time > and that those with sufficient discipline can balance their activities > between several models being built simultaneously :-) It's sort of the same good intentions when a compulsive smoker says early in the morning "I'll smoke just one today" > I'm sort of a wierd modeler. I've always felt that it was the process, not > the conclusion that was the reason I was in any hobby. Thus, I have no > qualms about starting a model, getting bored with it and moving to another. Exactly my philosophy. Eventually, some models get finished, as a part of the natural process: clean up, detailing, assembly part one, painting, decalling, assembly part two, rigging. It may take decades, but one day it gets done, as glaciers reach the sea. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:42:32 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: <200208130742.32692.larrym@sympatico.ca> > so I really love adding finished models to my collection, even at a cost to > my collection of unfinished models, That's an interesting pull and tug. One advantage of balsa scale models is that you can photocopy the print wood and build while keeping the kit intact :-) > I think it's just nice that we're all different. Absolutely....and viewing people that way is the best discipline of all :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:01:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Finally - Nats images online!! Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:20:34 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > And I wish people would give up the idea of spraying french > 5-colour camo as has been done on the > otherwise very nice Spad 16. Why do you say that? I think spraying five-color looks best. Maybe it's a "IMHO" and all that, but I would like to know you're thinking. Plus this time around, if it's the Planet kit built out of the box, it's an 11. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:03:30 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nats images on line! Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:32:47 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > And this one > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/USNats2002/images/nats12_jpg.jpg is very > SCARY! Not only that, you can tell how Bill Arnold builds all these models. It looks as if he needs a ton of sleep! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:04:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: The \"Itch\" Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:40:53 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > Oh nice! Wich kits? Nie.24bis is the Choroszy, and the Fokker D.VII is the Roden kit which will build into a Jasta 40 machine. See, I already have the decal options chosen! The Nie.24bis will turn into an awesome RCW machine. Argh!!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:05:38 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:40:58 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > I saw it mentioned on the digests a while back, someone knew who done > it, the same guy as the Salmson I believe. It's very nice, but this idea > of spraying camouflage that is obviously painted on dries me nuts. > Don't people look at photos? I see what you're getting at. It's not the fact that it's sprayed, it's the fact that the edges are soft. Five-color definitely needs to be masked. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:05:38 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Finally - Nats images online!! Message-ID: <021201c242c1$bd16bae0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> He's talking about soft edged colour boundaries, Matt D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Finally - Nats images online!! > On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:20:34 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > > > And I wish people would give up the idea of spraying french > > 5-colour camo as has been done on the > > otherwise very nice Spad 16. > > Why do you say that? I think spraying five-color looks best. > Maybe it's a "IMHO" and all that, but I would like to know you're > thinking. > > Plus this time around, if it's the Planet kit built out of the > box, it's an 11. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:08:33 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:59:23 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > DOH! You drive me nuts too. Oh and I forgot to say it's a Spad 11, > no cylinder head-cowlings so not a 16. I suspect its from the Planet > kit, I think I recognise the decals. What do you think Matt? I would have to see the turtledeck to be sure, but yes, I believe it's the Planet kit. It looks as if there are no "half-ribs" on the upper wing, so definitely the Planet kit. I'm hoping that come fall or winter I can convince Barry to completely redo his two-seat SPAD, which also will include the 16 fuselage. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:09:38 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Nats images on line! Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:07:29 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > Maybe it's a Rosemont vac. Don't think so. It looks to be the right size (the Rosemont is small all 'round) and there appears not to be any "half-ribs" on the upper wing (a fact that Rosemont molded correctly). Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4581 **********************