WWI Digest 4567

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: list problem?
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
  2) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  3) checking the list
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  4) Re: list problem?
	by "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
  5) Re: '04 Nats was Nats report
	by Peter Fedders <pfed@saladin.wustl.edu>
  6) Re: list problem?
	by "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
  7) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
  8) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  9) Re: nats selection
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 10) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
 11) Blue Max DH4
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
 12) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 13) RE: Blue Max DH4
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 14) Re: list problem?
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@kaien.net>
 15) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
 16) Re: list problem?
	by tbittners@sprintmail.com
 17) Re: list problem?
	by PetersList@aol.com
 18) messed msgs
	by Larry Marshall <larrym@sympatico.ca>
 19) Re: list problem? Virus ? strange because list sends out plain text ?
	by xtv16@dial.pipex.com
 20) RE: Blue Max DH4
	by "ernest thomas" <reason108@hotmail.com>
 21) Re: OK, some kind of Dicta Ira question, but maybe not???
	by Eric GALLAUD <egallaud@club-internet.fr>
 22) Coopere Detail Albatros replacement parts
	by Tom Sollers <tsollers@bcpl.net>
 23) yo dave vosburgh
	by ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
 24) Re: Blue Max DH4
	by Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 25) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "David Vosburgh" <dv2980@vgernet.net>
 26) Musings
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@kaien.net>
 27) Re: USN Hanriots
	by Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 28) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
 29) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
 30) Re: USN Hanriots
	by Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 31) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
 32) Re: Blue Max DH4
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 33) Re: Musings
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 34) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 35) Re: Blue Max DH4
	by Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 36) Re: USN Hanriots
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 37) Re: Blue Max DH4
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:30:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <200208061630.g76GUjG68000@king1.kingsnake.com>

On 08-06-2002 11:34 am, you wrote:

> Just wondering if there is a new problem with the list .. for the
last day
> or so I have been getting every other message with just the senders
name and
> subject line, but no text in the body of the message.

You mean, no "legs"?

<chuckle>


Matt Bittner

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:38:10 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <002901c23d67$a7647660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

C'est trés jolie, n'est pas?
And we sent Frederick to have a look at it... hope he brings more news. So
far looks like an amazing work of restoration
A detail I've never seen before: check the laced bulkhead behid the seat.
Would that be a standard feature? Other single seater nieuports would ahve
had the same thing behind the seat, or if we're talking about the two
seaters, behind the rear cockpit?
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:47 AM
Subject: [WWI] Belgium Nieuport 23


> Just picked this up from the Aerodrome Forum.  Someone there has posted
> images of the Brussels' Nie.23 undergoing restoration.  Very, very
> nice!!!
> http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/baha3/nie23/Nieuport_23.html
>
>
> Matt Bittner
>


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:39:21 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Cc: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@kaien.net>
Subject: checking the list
Message-ID: <002f01c23d67$d129d260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Hey Bob
I'm sending this with a copy to your address too. You should receive two
complete messages.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: [WWI] list problem?


> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering if there is a new problem with the list .. for the last day
> or so I have been getting every other message with just the senders name
and
> subject line, but no text in the body of the message.
>
> Regards,
>        Bob Pearson
>


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:38:46 +0100 
From: "Pedro N. Soares" <pnsoares@naer.pt>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301E9C0F9@TUFAO>


> You mean, no "legs"?
> 

uhhh..., let's call it a draw?


> 
> Matt Bittner
> 

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:37:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Fedders <pfed@saladin.wustl.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: '04 Nats was Nats report
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.1020806113648.241573A-100000@saladin.wustl.edu>


I was in Phoenix when it got to 122 F and it felt better than Virginia 
Beach (or St. Louis) in the low 90's.  There is virtually no humidity and 
the pools stay reasonable cool by evaporation.

peter





On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Michael Kendix wrote:

> >From: "Brent Theobald" <halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com>
> >Sir Kendix remarks:
> >"They gave the 2004 convention to Phoenix - note this thing takes >place in 
> >July or August, so we'll be fried to a crisp at 115F!  I >suppose that in 
> >2005, they'll simply have it on the Sun and vapourize >us."
> 
> If I go, i'm only going outside at night!
> 
> What's all this "Sir" poppycock?
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. 
> http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:52:39 -0700
From: "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <3D4FFED7.9000702@mars.ark.com>

Pedro N. Soares wrote:

>>You mean, no "legs"?
> 
> uhhh..., let's call it a draw?


Frivolity aside, I had two messages on the weekend which arrived the 
same way.  One actually opened properly when I 'double clicked' on it to 
get it into a separate window (but Bob has a mac, right?).

Dave Fletcher - normally DCF, to differentiate me from the rather 
plebian 'DF' initials ;-)




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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:48:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <200208061648.g76Gm4t68739@king1.kingsnake.com>

On 08-06-2002 11:39 am, you wrote:

> C'est trés jolie, n'est pas?

Gesundheit!

> And we sent Frederick to have a look at it... hope he brings more
news. So
> far looks like an amazing work of restoration
> A detail I've never seen before: check the laced bulkhead behid the
seat.
> Would that be a standard feature? Other single seater nieuports would
ahve
> had the same thing behind the seat, or if we're talking about the
two
> seaters, behind the rear cockpit?

That would be my guess as well, since I don't think the Nie.23 has
gone through many (any?) changes in its life.


Matt Bittner

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:56:49 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <006e01c23d6a$419c8680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

> That would be my guess as well, since I don't think the Nie.23 has
> gone through many (any?) changes in its life.

So there goes all my work at detailing the rear fuselage inside the Nieuport
11! :-(
D.


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:00:57 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: nats selection
Message-ID: <007301c23d6a$d5b79080$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Michael!
>
>http://www.njipms.org/Features/IPMS2002nats/Exhibits/Aircraft/image.htm>l?2
00
> >2nats0618.JPG
> Scratchbuilt Gloster Gamecock in 1/32nd scale, I think.

Must be the same on the "The Master Scratchbuilders" book.

>
>http://www.njipms.org/Features/IPMS2002nats/Exhibits/Aircraft/image.htm>l?2
00
> >2nats0772.JPG
> I spoke to the fellow who built this.  It's the Hit Kit Ansaldo Ballila.
He
> replaced everything except the fuselage, tail parts and the decals.

He made it look as if it were the Fabric Time resin kit. Gorgeous!

>
>http://www.njipms.org/Features/IPMS2002nats/Exhibits/Aircraft/image.htm>l?2
00
> >2nats0785.JPG
> Massive scale (1/16 or 1/8th?)

Must be the Model Airways kit, just like that Albatros.

> What's wrong with using a rear view mirror mount as a stand:)?
> I think that's Caz Daulton's (off topic) ICM Su-2 -

I actually like the model a lot! But that handle... looks like a section of
my electric toothbrush!

> Brilliant Etrich Taube.  Does the lettering come in the 1/48th scale
Eduard
> kit?

It can be discerned below the model a card saying "flashback" so, it must
be!
D.


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:59:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <200208061659.g76GxrQ69380@king1.kingsnake.com>

On 08-06-2002 11:58 am, you wrote:

> So there goes all my work at detailing the rear fuselage inside the
Nieuport
> 11! :-(

Well, now that I think of it, maybe the earlier Nieuports didn't have
the "baffle".  Since you've already done the work, just keep it!


Matt Bittner

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:01:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <200208061701.g76H1Qg69779@king1.kingsnake.com>

Yea, not my scale, but check the Pegasus/Blue Max web site.  Shots of
the DH4 fuselage, showing *molded on detail* inside the cockpit.  A
first for Pegasus/Blue Max?


Matt Bittner

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:10:02 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <009501c23d6c$1a83c200$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

> Well, now that I think of it, maybe the earlier Nieuports didn't have
> the "baffle".  Since you've already done the work, just keep it!

I'm baffled!
Yes, I guess I'll keep it. But this will make much more simple the Rosemont
resin fuselage of the Nieuports 24 and 27
D.


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:12:20 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <009d01c23d6c$6c9ebd60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Maybe it's a very fortunate ripple! ;-)
D.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:08 PM
Subject: [WWI] Blue Max DH4


> Yea, not my scale, but check the Pegasus/Blue Max web site.  Shots of
> the DH4 fuselage, showing *molded on detail* inside the cockpit.  A
> first for Pegasus/Blue Max?
> 
> 
> Matt Bittner
> 


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:24:08 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@kaien.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <102865470501@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com>

Of the last 12 list messages I got, the following had no text
Belgium Ni23 by Diego
04 Nats by Peter Fedders
List problem by Dave Fletcher
Belgium Ni23 by Matt

So may I take it that I am the only one this is happening to?

Bob

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:23:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <200208061723.g76HNlh70996@king1.kingsnake.com>

On 08-06-2002 12:10 pm, you wrote:

> Yes, I guess I'll keep it. But this will make much more simple the
Rosemont
> resin fuselage of the Nieuports 24 and 27

True!  Add something that looks like stitching, and off you go. :-)


Matt

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:24:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: tbittners@sprintmail.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <200208061724.g76HOwE71021@king1.kingsnake.com>

On 08-06-2002 12:27 pm, you wrote:

> So may I take it that I am the only one this is happening to?

I'm sorry.  What did you say?






:-)


Matt

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:14:00 EDT
From: PetersList@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: list problem?
Message-ID: <1ad.64fa47b.2a816be8@aol.com>

I have it too. It looks like an attempt at "badtrans" virus transmission. AOL 
winkles it out but the rest of you should watch out.

cheers

Peter L

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:36:07 -0400
From: Larry Marshall <larrym@sympatico.ca>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: messed msgs
Message-ID: <200208061436.07128.larrym@sympatico.ca>


I thought i'd drop a suggestion regarding some people having difficulty with 
msg corruption.  There has been, for the last day a bunch of denial of 
service attacks launched towards major servers on the Internet.  It could be 
that these are somehow messing things up somewhat.  Personally I have yet to 
see a problem msg so I can't speak with any personal experience and I don't 
know anything about the nature of those attacks.   

Cheers --- Larry

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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:41:38 +0100
From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: list problem? Virus ? strange because list sends out plain text ?
Message-ID: <1028659298.3d501862d4b0e@netmail.pipex.net>


Mmmmmmm



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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:58:26 -0500
From: "ernest thomas" <reason108@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <F25NXjji5FbPPUHF9si0000bd7f@hotmail.com>




>From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>

>Maybe it's a very fortunate ripple! ;-)

Remind me to slap you next time we meet.
;)
E.


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:23:20 +0200
From: Eric GALLAUD <egallaud@club-internet.fr>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: OK, some kind of Dicta Ira question, but maybe not???
Message-ID: <3D502228.C1F2F8BD@club-internet.fr>

After a check in the FMP book, which show a very light picture of this plane, I
think I should choose the scheme shown the previous page for J I 09.01 : looks
like wood for fuselage, metal panels something like grey-green.
On the picture you speak about, I can see a color difference at about the first
interplane struts (from the fuselage).

That's all I can say, and I am not sure of all of that ;-)

Eric

Grzegorz Mazurowski a écrit :

> Looking for your opinion about colour of the 09.03 Albatros J.I used in
> Austria.
> Its photo is in the FMP AH book.
> Seriously, please for help, even for just opinions, as I have scan only, and
> judging colours is even harder here than from B&W printed photo.
> Of course, if someone has precise info (maybe from 1st edition of this
> book?), I'd be very happy too ;-)
> Cheers!
> Grzegorz


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:37:23 -0400
From: Tom Sollers <tsollers@bcpl.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Coopere Detail Albatros replacement parts
Message-ID: <B9759DB2.21D1%tsollers@bcpl.net>

Greetings All!

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I noticed on Hyperscale
that Cooper Details will soon offer the following in 1/48:

CD 4820 - Albatros D.V and D.Va Wheels (replaces small kit wheels)
CD4833 Albatros Seats with Harness and Textured Leather Seat Cushion

And in 1/72:

CD 7222 - Albatros D.V and D.Va Wheels (for Eduard)

Hopefully this is just a beginning.

No connection with Cooper Details. Just thought it was worth mentioning.

Tom


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:07:32 -0700
From: ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: yo dave vosburgh
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806130519.00a66de0@pop.amug.org>

dave vosburgh,
could you please contact me off list.  i can't seem to send you any 
emails.  thanks and sorry for the post.
regards,
eric


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:48:59 -0400
From: Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <3D50444B.2000800@tampabay.rr.com>



tbittners@sprintmail.com wrote:

> Yea, not my scale, but check the Pegasus/Blue Max web site.  Shots of
> the DH4 fuselage, showing *molded on detail* inside the cockpit.  A
> first for Pegasus/Blue Max?

No, its about the same level of molded in detail as on the LVG C.VI. You 
can do that sort of stuff in 1/48 Matt ;-)

Speaking of LVGs I got the top wing on and the U/C in place. The pinned 
styrene strut material worked great. Not quite as strong or stiff as 
bamboo, but quite acceptable to me and it sure saved some time.

All thats left is the prop, parabellum, radiator piping and rigging.
sp


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:30:43 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh" <dv2980@vgernet.net>
To: "WWI Mailing List" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <004c01c23d98$e79dd880$e1ed19ce@dv2980>

Thanks Deigo, SP, ETH and Matt (did I forget anybody?), much valuable information came
winging through the ether.

Here's an obscure question. Were the proportions of the insignia on the Navy Hanriots the
same as Brit roundels? I think I've got some 1:48 Americal RAF sheets kicking around
somewhere. Also, any recommendations for that Navy grey, anyone?

DV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "David Vosburgh" <dv2980@vgernet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [WWI] USN Hanriots

<nip>


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:33:27 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@kaien.net>
To: ww1 mailing list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Musings
Message-ID: <102867322701@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com>

Hi all,

Just got the new WS today and Lance Krieg's Felixstowe is beautiful ... I'm
envious .. guess I'll have to get one (again  - I just sold both of my 1/48
kits to a fellow listee).

In other news I went and eyed some materials for my 1/8 scale DWC - also
looked at a scroll saw to make the parts .... Think I'm about to get serious
on the thing after procrastinating for a couple of months.

I had a visitor yesterday from Florida. .. the fellow actually came up here
with the express purpose of meeting me and purchasing some of my (ot alert)
ship prints .. very strange to be sought out .. but also nice to know the
work is appreciated.

I need a new book project to work on, so what call would there be for a book
on French unit markings? If I was to do this I would need help with photos,
I do have access to all the FMP stuff, but others would be nice as well.
Ditto, Italian or A-H marking books.

Regards,
        Bob

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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:41:58 -0400
From: Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <3D5050B6.4060504@tampabay.rr.com>



David Vosburgh wrote:

> Thanks Deigo, SP, ETH and Matt (did I forget anybody?), much valuable information came
> winging through the ether.
> 
> Here's an obscure question. Were the proportions of the insignia on the Navy Hanriots the
> same as Brit roundels? I think I've got some 1:48 Americal RAF sheets kicking around
> somewhere. Also, any recommendations for that Navy grey, anyone?


I think the color order would be wrong on RAF roundels. The USAS 
roundels were similar to the Anatra Factory roundels used in Russia, (as 
opposed to Duks roundels)

I have some that might work for the Hanriot. LMK if you need them. OTOH 
The USN switched to stars right at the end of the war. The N.28 and 
Camel at Pensacola both have stars. None of my shots of the Hanriot show 
the wing markings, but since it was contemporary with the other two, I'd 
bet stars.
sp


> 
> DV
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
> To: "David Vosburgh" <dv2980@vgernet.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [WWI] USN Hanriots
> 
> <nip>
> 
> 



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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:54:43 -0400
From: "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <009801c23d9c$41b700a0$85d2bacc@ptdprolog.net>

Dave wrote;
Also, any recommendations for that Navy grey, anyone?

Well, the new Datafile calls it :"Naval Gray"! Not much help. huh. G. Alegi
doesn't give a Methuen match. It is described in the text as  a highly
reflective enamel paint. The roundels are close to the fuselage...even more
so than on some SE5a's.
hth, but probably not much
Mike Muth



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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:59:11 -0400
From: "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <009d01c23d9c$e1824a40$85d2bacc@ptdprolog.net>

Steve wrote:

I think the color order would be wrong on RAF roundels. The USAS
> roundels were similar to the Anatra Factory roundels used in Russia, (as
> opposed to Duks roundels)

Red blue  then white (Outside to inside)

> The USN switched to stars right at the end of the war. The N.28 and
> Camel at Pensacola both have stars. None of my shots of the Hanriot show
> the wing markings, but since it was contemporary with the other two, I'd
> bet stars.

    The Datafile shows a profile without the stars as well as a few photos.:
A 5620, A 5625 and one other one without a number.
hth
Mike Muth



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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:05:40 -0400
From: Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <3D505644.8010702@tampabay.rr.com>


> 
>     The Datafile shows a profile without the stars as well as a few photos.:
> A 5620, A 5625 and one other one without a number.
> hth
> Mike Muth


Didn't the US planes, (Navy & Army), in European service have roundels 
at least until the end of the war. Ones that saw domestic service had 
stars. Or am I experiencing the bio-equavalent of parity errors in the 
memory module?
sp


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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:13:43 -0400
From: "Mike Muth" <mikemuth@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <00af01c23d9e$e9648000$85d2bacc@ptdprolog.net>



> Didn't the US planes, (Navy & Army), in European service have roundels
> at least until the end of the war. Ones that saw domestic service had
> stars.

The ones I mentioned are dated 1919.

 Or am I experiencing the bio-equavalent of parity errors in the
> memory module?

Huh?

Mike




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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:51:04 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <E17cE5D-0004Xw-00@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:51:48 -0400 (EDT), Steven Perry wrote:

> No, its about the same level of molded in detail as on the LVG C.VI. You 
> can do that sort of stuff in 1/48 Matt ;-)

You can do that in 1/72nd, as well. :-P```  Take a look at
Choroszy, Ardpol and Silesian Eagle!!!


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:52:18 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Musings
Message-ID: <E17cE6Q-0006JM-00@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:36:10 -0400 (EDT), Bob Pearson wrote:

> I need a new book project to work on, so what call would there be for a book
> on French unit markings? If I was to do this I would need help with photos,
> I do have access to all the FMP stuff, but others would be nice as well.
> Ditto, Italian or A-H marking books.

I can lend whatever help I have.  I don't have much (read,
practically nothing) but maybe some contacts of mine would help
out.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:53:45 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <E17cE7s-0000aZ-00@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net>


Maybe someone in the US should write the definitive story on USN
Hanriots?  The article in the latest Windsock is a great start,
but I'm sure it's not the last word.

Hmmm... ;-)

Then again, I have a languishing research project on the Macchi
M.16 to finish up...


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:53:00 -0400
From: Steven Perry <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <3D50615C.3020906@tampabay.rr.com>



>>No, its about the same level of molded in detail as on the LVG C.VI. You 
>>can do that sort of stuff in 1/48 Matt ;-)
>>
> 
> You can do that in 1/72nd, as well. :-P```  Take a look at
> Choroszy, Ardpol and Silesian Eagle!!!

Where'd I put my optivisor ;-)
sp


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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:57:41 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: USN Hanriots
Message-ID: <E17cEBd-00065A-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:55:12 -0400 (EDT), Matt Bittner wrote:

> Maybe someone in the US should write the definitive story on USN
> Hanriots?  The article in the latest Windsock is a great start,
> but I'm sure it's not the last word.

Now that I look it over in detail, this is actually the article
you want.  It appears to list every HD.2 the US Navy flew.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:16:18 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Blue Max DH4
Message-ID: <F241zECvYYoiv4bChKz0002071c@hotmail.com>

>From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
>
>On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:51:48 -0400 (EDT), Steven Perry wrote:
>
>>No, its about the same level of molded in detail as on the LVG >>C.VI. You 
>>  can do that sort of stuff in 1/48 Matt ;-)
>
>You can do that in 1/72nd, as well. :-P```  Take a look at
>Choroszy, Ardpol and Silesian Eagle!!!

Yes, but that's resin with all its attendant challenges.  The 1/72nd scale 
Pegasus Taube has some nice interior framework but there's a lot of 
smoothing to be done to make sure some of the interior blobbing doesn't 
show.  Also, the wings have nice detail but they're pretty thick.  I think 
the Blue Max/Pegasus technology supports 1/48th scale much better.

Michael

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