WWI Digest 4563 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: MPM wish list by "ernest thomas" 2) Re: Magnetic Fokker by "Hans Trauner" 3) Nats results by SSH 4) Basswood by Eric GALLAUD 5) Re: Nats results by "ernest thomas" 6) Re: Basswood by "David Vosburgh" 7) RE: Basswood by "Daniel Munoz" 8) Re: Nats results by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 9) Re: Basswood by Larry Marshall 10) Home by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 11) Re: Dilemma by Shane Weier 12) Re: Nats results by "Matt Bittner" 13) cannon at nats by Larry Marshall 14) Re: Bad news from the IPMS Nats by "Dave Burke" 15) Re: MPM wish list by "Dave Burke" 16) Re: MPM wish list by "Dave Burke" 17) Re: Basswood by Eric GALLAUD 18) ot Wright Cyclone help by "D. Charles" 19) RE: Dilemma by Tom Gourdie 20) French Colours by "Pedro N. Soares" 21) French Colours - 2 by "Pedro N. Soares" 22) RE: French Colours - 2 by "Diego Fernetti" 23) RE: French Colours - 2 by "Pedro N. Soares" 24) RE: French Colours - 2 by "Diego Fernetti" 25) RE: Nats results by "Pedro N. Soares" 26) Re: French Colours by "Matt Bittner" 27) Re: Bad news from the IPMS Nats by Larry Marshall 28) Re: cannon at nats by "Mike Little" 29) RE: Dilemma by Larry Marshall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 13:23:42 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MPM wish list Message-ID: >From: "Dave Burke" >BTW Ern, I only remember seeing about 30 1/48 kits - where's the rest? I'm assuming you're talking about the stash I had in the storage compartment under my model case from hell. That was just the tip of the ice...er um... plasticberg. If you had ever come to visit me at Bachelor Pad A, you would have seen the whole collection and we could have run naked through it. Right now, all my kits are stored at Mom's house until I get a work room/shed figured out. E. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:59:15 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Magnetic Fokker Message-ID: <000f01c23be9$07a70400$10ab72d4@FRITZweb> Iban, I am still in the phase of construction. The components are: a Fokker kit (standard) , a small magneto ( to fix it into the fuselage) , a large magneto ( ca 8 cm diameter) , a plastic case to hide the large magneto, a printed picture of a landscape ( peel-off variety, to be placed on the plastic case: Diorama!), three small hooks from steel wire, plus a lenght of 'unvisible' thread. The three hooks are to be placed into the Fokker ( One in the landing gear 'wing'; the other two in each side of the stabilizer). Three length of thread are cut in exact lenght and knoted onto the plastic case. The Fokker is 'hooked' into the threads. The case is placed over the large magneto. Et voila! It flies. Says the instructions. Let us wait and see. I'll report if it works in reality. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "iban" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Magnetic Fokker > hans, how does it work? what are the components? > > thanks in advance, > > iban. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hans Trauner" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 8:17 AM > Subject: [WWI] Magnetic Fokker > > > > Just got the hovering Magnetic Red Baron fom Revell. It's around 20 US $. > I > > would recommend it only for the real sick persons under us. The kit itself > > is unchanged, you have to scribe away the very last 'detail' inside to fix > > the magneto. Easy to fix it also in any other Triplane kit or even in a > RE8. > > Biggest problem: The magneto in the base is a strong one. I planned to > place > > the Hovering Red Baron on my work desk. Until I discovered the keyboard, > the > > loud speakers and the screen and the scanner and.... > > > > Hans > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:16:58 -0400 From: SSH To: wwi-list Subject: Nats results Message-ID: <3D4D099A00012742@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Tom Morgan got 1st place for his DH-2 in the Large Scale WWi category. Tom Plesha took second place for his Sopwith Pup. (The career one). Karen won a prize (dont recall which) for her Hun in the sun Diorama. Tom Morgan also received the Michael Fritz award for the best WWI subject. In the "Judges' best of Show in Aircrafts",which is based on vote by all judges, his DH-2 lost by a very small margin to a scratch-built DeHavilland biplane. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:22:46 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Basswood Message-ID: <3D4D7F05.9EB9E796@club-internet.fr> Hello all, I heard sometime to speak of basswood. I guess it is a type of wood ;-) , but which one ? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 15:00:12 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nats results Message-ID: >From: SSH >Tom Morgan got 1st place for his DH-2 in the Large Scale WWi >category. >Tom Plesha took second place for his Sopwith Pup. (The career one). >Karen won a prize (dont recall which) for her Hun in the sun Diorama. > >Tom Morgan also received the Michael Fritz award for the best WWI >subject. In the "Judges' best of Show in Aircrafts",which is based >on vote by all judges, his DH-2 lost by a very small margin to a >scratch-built DeHavilland biplane. Conga-rats to all the winning listee's. I'm sure y'all deserved the awards and I know y'all must be feeling pretty good right about now. E. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:43:00 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Basswood Message-ID: <001101c23bf7$8639efe0$f0ed19ce@dv2980> "Basswood" is the actual name, although it used to be called American Lime, too. It's a hardwood, although softer than Douglas fir and some kinds of pine (for that matter balsa is a 'hardwood' too). Easy to carve, it's frequently used for creating masters for vac-forming. Model shipwrights love it. It's available in craft stores and woodworker's supply houses here... je suis desole, Eric, not sure what the Euro-equivalent is :-( DV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric GALLAUD" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: [WWI] Basswood > Hello all, > > I heard sometime to speak of basswood. I guess it is a type of wood ;-) > , but which one ? > > Eric > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:25:41 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: Basswood Message-ID: <000f01c23bfd$7c2c7c10$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> Eric, Basswood is an American "Tilleul". A tender wood used for carving and also making doll house furniture. Here's a table that you may find convenient, from a local wood supplier catalog in Montreal: http://pages.infinit.net/dmunoz/wood-french-english.gif Au plaisir, Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On > Behalf Of Eric GALLAUD > Sent: August 4, 2002 3:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Basswood > > > Hello all, > > I heard sometime to speak of basswood. I guess it is a type > of wood ;-) , but which one ? > > Eric > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:26:08 -0500 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nats results Message-ID: > >From: SSH > >>Tom Morgan got 1st place for his DH-2 in the Large Scale WWi >>category. >>Tom Plesha took second place for his Sopwith Pup. (The career one). > >Karen won a prize (dont recall which) for her Hun in the sun Diorama. 1St place for her diorama. > >Tom Morgan also received the Michael Fritz award for the best WWI >>subject. In the "Judges' best of Show in Aircrafts",which is based >>on vote by all judges, his DH-2 lost by a very small margin to a >>scratch-built DeHavilland biplane. > >Conga-rats to all the winning listee's. I'm sure y'all deserved the awards >and I know y'all must be feeling pretty good right about now. >E. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:37:47 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Basswood Message-ID: <200208041737.47495.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I heard sometime to speak of basswood. I guess it is a type of wood ;-) > , but which one ? In French it's Tileul (I think I've spelled it right) and it's a very popular wood with woodcarvers because it is very fine-grained. People who supply carvers with wood and tools are the best sources for blocks of it. Likewise, it's very popular with modelers, especially model railroad people. Because of this companies many of the suppliers of model railroad supplies sell it in strips (like Evergreen plastic is sold). A common brand of this in North America is Northeastern. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:01:39 -0500 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Home Message-ID: We are back in Texas. Enjoyed meeting all list members and if you weren't available for the Eating Meeting, you missed a good one. Congrats to all who won. It sounds like OKC will be a good convention. Make plans now and lets all get together there. The rates for the hotel will be $99 per night. The web site will be up soon. JP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:03:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: Dilemma Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958E33@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> larry replies to Dave number 17.3 recurring....... >> Thanks to all who replied - I sorted part of my problem - a trip to the >> optometrist and a new pair of spectacles makes things a lot better !! Now >> if any of you know of a spare time machine...... > >Ha....I'm struggling with this myself. I broke my glasses and haven't gotten >them fixed yet. They affect me most when I want to see something less than a >foot away and I'm afraid my arms aren't long enough. The Optivisor helps >though Boy do I understand this. I've been short sighted all my adult life, and lost most of the vision in my right eye 15 years ago, but thought that my specs and a desk magnifier would continue to suit just fine - only now I'm neither short nor long sighted and need to either spend half my time changing glasses or make the bold jump to bifocals. Gettin old. Feel like I'm no longer one of Len's whippersnappers (and BTW Len, *I* didn't think you'd croaked or faded away into a dementiaed post OT life, but am still pleased to hear from you again ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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Could he be the only second (outside of Hustad) listee to receive the Mike Fritz? That's just too cool. Now, what about 1/72nd? And no listess have anything in the "ground" category? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:00:00 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: cannon at nats Message-ID: <200208042100.00907.larrym@sympatico.ca> Given the airplanes that won in WWI, I have to question the taste of the guy posting photos of the Nats. Nevertheless, I'm appreciative of his efforts. I'm wondering if anyone can identify this cannon & wagon? http://www3.sympatico.ca/larrym/images/2002nats_cannon.jpg Congrats to all the winners. I do hope we'll get to see Tom Morgan's DH2 when he gets back. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:52:03 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Bad news from the IPMS Nats Message-ID: <000901c23c33$76d58aa0$8485aec7@s0024008072> Larry wrote: > In short, while a manufacturer is certainly culpable for problems that > cancel/delay release of products they've announced and continue to announce, > I'm afraid we have met the enemy and they are us. > I reckon so. In the case of Accurate, it helped to temporarily kill the company. But I also wonder about things that the magazines report that apparently were never even announced by a manufacturer - or perhaps it was something that hadn't gotten back to that particular Tamiya representative. I shouldn't have accused SAMI of anything - overall they are my favorite magazine. However, it puzzled me as I spoke to my friend asking about several upcoming releases about products and was able to overhear him talking to the vendors (he was on his cell phone) and came up zilch on all of them. I reckon that I'll just calm down until the desired stuff ends up on the GreatModels site. Bummer though. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:53:47 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: MPM wish list Message-ID: <001101c23c33$b4202780$8485aec7@s0024008072> Matt wrote: > You should see the just-released Wellington. Much closer to > Eduard, that's for sure. With the release of the Wellington > they've gone away from resin, and have concentrated on injected > plastic, including the clear pieces. > > > Matt Bittner > GREAT!! I'm really glad to hear it as they really had the PE and resin down pat - great stuff. Good to hear the plastic quality has improved - I reckon I'll grab a few! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:55:18 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: MPM wish list Message-ID: <001f01c23c33$eacb8400$8485aec7@s0024008072> EtH wrote: >If you had ever come to visit me at Bachelor Pad A, you would > have seen the whole collection and we could have run naked through it. > Er, ummm, uh, sure. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 06:02:03 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Basswood Message-ID: <3D4DF8BB.E626AED6@club-internet.fr> Thank you for these useful information. I will try to build wooden struts like Lance Krieg for his wonderful Felixtowe. Daniel, the table is a very useful specialized dictionary. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:12:42 +1000 From: "D. Charles" To: Subject: ot Wright Cyclone help Message-ID: <000c01c23c4f$7e831d00$713b32d2@charles> Help, anyone.. Re.: Cyclone R2600 as fitted to Vultee Vengeance. What's the box-like thingy attached to the crankcase/gearbox above the prop shaft and in front of thecylinders. It's in about the 12 o'clock position. Please send all your replies off list. TIA David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:42:06 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Dilemma Message-ID: <02Aug5.094346bst.118104@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> Dave This is a phase I think everyone who has an absorbing hobby/interest of any description goes through. I am currently trying to finish several models which are 95% complete and trying to make glass display cases for them at the same time. I have a Sopwith Pup (1/48 Eduard)which needs re-rigged because I cocked it up first time around, finishing touches (control cables etc) to a Dragon DVII, a half-built Sopwith Triplane etc etc. I can't get the enthusiasm to do them and I think the only answer is to be sufficiently disciplined to CONCENTRATE on one. My problem is I like starting models and getting them through to painting, decaling and reasonable detailing but I too tend to run out of steam at the last 5% or so. Another problem is (for me) finding sufficient time in large enough chunks. My day away from home is approx. 11/12 hours and I only have two/three hours in the evening to fit in civilised chat with my partner, read the paper, do other domestic chores and a bit of modelling. I suggest you give yourself a break - maybe just a few days - and work out a disciplined plan for the hobby. My own 1/48 perspective is that a 1/72 Albatros must be a b****r to rig - maybe that's all that's wrong!! HTH Tom -----Original Message----- From: Dave Fleming [mailto:xtv16@dial.pipex.com] Sent: 03 August 2002 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Dilemma I'm sitting here trying to rig my Albatros (Eduard 72 DV, for the cookup !!!!) wondering if I love the WW1 modelling list more than I love WW1 modeling? I like WW1 aeroplanes, I love the list, but these days I just can't seem to get a bl**dy model built. And no-one suggest trying a Tank, tried that, still isn't finished, can't get the weathering right. Maybe I'm just not artistic enough for WW1. Maybe I should go back to jets (Well, the Harrier is really a Sopwith). Maybe I should chuck it altogether (No D, you can't have my kits) - never !! Maybe I should just build monoplanes. Maybe I should go to bed ! Tierd and emotionally twisted by this kit !! Dave This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:22:04 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: French Colours Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301E9B9F6@TUFAO> Ok gang, (Matt, are you listening there?????) Just got word from Mr. Marc Chassard that we wouldn't oppose my forwarding into The List the exchange of messages I had with him him regarding 1) Blue Nieuports 11 2) French blue so here it goes, with a great many tanks to Marc Chassard who not only wrote a damn fine book but who also in a true schoolar and getleman's way was also very prompt, generous and helpful in answering the questions I raised. Part 1 concernes his answer to question 1) "I am now working with Bernard Klaeylé on this subject. We will write a paper entitled "Les couleurs de Verdun" (the colours of French airplanes during the battle of Verdun). It remains no physical evidence of light blue Nieuports, but some written reports describe the Nieuports to be "gris bleu clair", light blue grey, not far from the "blue horizon" of French soldiers. There is also an artwork painting, by Dunoyer de Ségonzac, which show Nieuports XI painted in grey blue. Consequently, the probability of some light blue grey Nieuports is very high, but only during a very short period (february - may 1916)." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:23:56 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: French Colours - 2 Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301E9B9FA@TUFAO> Here's Mr. Chassard view on French Blue: "Dear Pedro, For WW I modeling list, no problem, it will be a pleasure, thank you. Concerning the French "blue", this is another interesting and difficult topic ! Yes, I think the blue colour was different from one manufacturer to another. This is clear that the blue of Nieuports was darker than those of others aircraft manufacturers. Some colour photos can attest it. You have to remember also that the blue colour is especially sensitive when exposed to Ultra Violet. Guynemer's Spad at Le Bourget is now almost 86 years old, and the blue of its cockades is most probably clearer than in 1917 ! That's the reason why I said in the book that "the French blue was probably dark or mid blue, but never clear." Hope it will help you. Best Regards, Marc" > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:38:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: French Colours - 2 Message-ID: <016401c23c6c$4fcf10a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks for the investigation Pedro! > " Guynemer's Spad at Le Bourget is now almost 86 > years old, and the blue of its cockades is most probably clearer than in > 1917 ! > That's the reason why I said in the book that "the French blue was probably > dark or mid blue, but never clear." You think that he wrote "clear" meaning "lighter" or meaning "transparent"? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:41:05 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Colours - 2 Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301E9BA2B@TUFAO> > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: segunda-feira, 5 de Agosto de 2002 11:41 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: French Colours - 2 > > Lighter Pedro > > You think that he wrote "clear" meaning "lighter" or meaning > "transparent"? > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:50:27 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: French Colours - 2 Message-ID: <025001c23c6d$e910f660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks! I have this "Replic" magazine with excellent pictures of a Spad VII but I was completely dazzled by the fact that the blue of the roundels was so light... Now here's a good reason for the change of colours. Must check what the Butterfly Project say about the ingredients of the french roundel blue. D. This thread makes me remember ole Bill Bacon ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro N. Soares > Lighter > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:51:02 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Nats results Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301E9BA4A@TUFAO> Great going guys. Sincere Congratulations to Dame Karen and both Toms. Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: SSH [mailto:ot811@myrealbox.com] > Sent: domingo, 4 de Agosto de 2002 20:19 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Nats results > > > > Tom Morgan got 1st place for his DH-2 in the Large Scale WWi > category. > Tom Plesha took second place for his Sopwith Pup. (The career one). > Karen won a prize (dont recall which) for her Hun in the sun Diorama. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 06:00:41 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: French Colours Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:24:40 -0400 (EDT), Pedro N. Soares wrote: > Ok gang, (Matt, are you listening there?????) Thanks for forwarding, Pedro. Most awesome answers that actually make sense. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:57:07 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bad news from the IPMS Nats Message-ID: <200208050756.42400.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I reckon so. In the case of Accurate, it helped to temporarily kill the > company. But I also wonder about things that the magazines report that > apparently were never even announced by a manufacturer - or perhaps it was I think that if you want to blame someone for this you need to target the magazine editors. Of course they're always trying to report the latest and greatest. At the same time, they're typically dealing with at least 3 month lag times from finishing an issue and the time it shows up on the newstand. I can tell you from experience that there are a lot of conversations between editors and manufacturers that go like this: Editor: Hey, you got any new products coming out that we can talk about? Manufacturer: Nothing that we can talk about. Editor: Realize that anything you give us now won't see the light of day for at least 3 months. Manufacturer: Well, we do have something that will probably be released by then but we're not sure. Editor: What is it? Manufacturer: It's a whiz-bang and I think you're going to like it. Editor: Do you have any photos of it? We'd sure like to announce that it's coming. Manufacturer: Well....we do have some photos of the main parts but nothing of the complete kit as we have no box, no instruction manual, no box art and we haven't done the metal parts yet. Editor: That would be great. We've got a section about products that are coming up, not necessarily out yet. No price or availability is implied. Manufacturer: Ok... And so it goes....the manufacturer sends the photo, then runs into production difficulties, changes in priorities, etc. and you, the reader are sitting anticipating a product that the manufacturer was somewhat reluctant to even talk about. You sometimes see a different form of this in the form of advertising. Sometimes manufacturers want to generate interest in something they're releasing but often they're just trying to plan release and advertising schedules so that they coincide and the 3 month lag of magazines makes that hard. My impression is that for most things, manufacturers would rather not be spending lots of money advertising something they can't sell for a couple of reasons. It means they're spending money and not making it but more important, they've suddenly got a labor cost of answering all the 'I want one' emails, phone calls, etc. I may be wrong here in what I'm about to say but I think this second problem is far less of a concern for someone like Tamiya, though. The reason is that you don't call Tamiya to buy anything; you're calling their distributors and my feeling has always been that companies like Tamiya like to generate consumer interest and sees as a positive if they can stimulate a bunch of phone calls to distributors as it helps cement their worth as a product line with the distributors. In some senses it probably works to show the distributor that Tamiya ad money is important to them. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:57:58 -0500 From: "Mike Little" To: Subject: Re: cannon at nats Message-ID: <009701c23c77$59427ea0$49750a3f@p5166> Hello all, Your cannon isn't really a cannon. I thought it looked familiar so I sent the picture on to a history professor friend who is more familiar with the ground end of the issue than I. I tend to stick to aircraft and naval subjects. Here is his reply: This piece of ordnance looks like one of the old (i.e. obsolete by 1918) 18cm (7.1 IN) Minenwerfer, smooth bore bronze muzzle loading trench mortars that was converted to a gas projector later in the war. It was mounted on a non-recoil steel carriage which was pivoted on a rectangular steel platform. In action they weigh about 900 lbs (without carriage). They are fired electrically. The propellant charge can be either black powder or perforated disks of smokeless powder (disk propellants not unlike those used in conventional German mortars during the Second World War). The gas projectile is a 17.5 cm, 66 lb gas "canister" of liquid phosgene (D-Stoff) or mixed phosgene and Chloro-picrin. Both of these are casualty/lethal gasses. These minninwerfer are often linked together, as many as 1,000 of them, and fired electrically. When discharged, it is described as a sheet of flame running along the German trenches accompanied by a loud explosion. The bombs are visible in flight and make a loud whizzing noise. Detonation is loud, producing a thick white smoke. The Gas projector you were probably thinking of was the British Livens Projector. It is mounted in the earth in batteries, resembling a fougasse. The Germans adopted a similar projector by the end of the war. The Germans always preferred employing war gasses in an artillery/mortar mode, for its flexibility. Source: British General Staff, Handbook of the German Army, 1918 (Imperial War Musuem/Battery Press, 1996) 106. John Morgan Hope this covers what you wanted to know. Mike Little ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:09:12 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Dilemma Message-ID: <200208050809.12087.larrym@sympatico.ca> > CONCENTRATE on one. My problem is I like starting models and getting them > through to painting, decaling and reasonable detailing but I too tend to > run out of steam at the last 5% or so. Another problem is (for me) finding Often a lot of the small finish thingies can be done in 5 minute blocks of time. > My own 1/48 perspective is that a 1/72 Albatros must be a b****r to rig - > maybe that's all that's wrong!! I'm far from an expert but when using stainless wire, there was no difference between doing my 1/48 Roland and my 1/72 Albatros. In fact, I think the 1/72 model was easier as the pieces of wire were shorter and easier to place. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4563 **********************