WWI Digest 4547 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Broken Wings by "Daniel Munoz" 2) Re: ot question/ DH2 by "Paul Howard" 3) Re: ot question/ DH2 by "ernest thomas" 4) Re: ot question/ DH2 by "Len Smith" 5) RE:Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 by Shane Weier 6) Re: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 7) Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 by "Robert Baumgartner" 8) RE: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: Dorme/Guiguet book by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: stainless wire by Larry Marshall 11) RE: Broken Wings by Larry Marshall 12) RE: Broken Wings by "Diego Fernetti" 13) RE: Broken Wings by Larry Marshall 14) Louvers by Steven Perry 15) Rosario by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= 16) RE: Broken Wings by "Daniel Munoz" 17) RE: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 by "ernest thomas" 18) 90% done by Steven Perry 19) RE: Broken Wings by "Mark Shannon" 20) RE: Broken Wings by Larry Marshall 21) RE: Broken Wings by "Brian Nicklas" 22) RE: Broken Wings by Larry Marshall 23) Broken Wings - Adhesive tape ring idea by "Daniel Munoz" 24) Re: Broken Wings - Adhesive tape ring idea by Larry Marshall 25) RE: Broken Wings by "Daniel Munoz" 26) Friedrichshafen FF43 - part 2 by "Pedro N. Soares" 27) VERY URGENT by "DR.CALICO MOORE" 28) Camel Underside color by Steven Perry 29) Adhesive tape ring idea by "Diego Fernetti" 30) RE: Camel Underside color by "Diego Fernetti" 31) RE: Camel Underside color by Steven Perry 32) RE: Camel Underside color by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:33:54 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <003401c23383$b86ba570$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> > Are you going to be around on Saturday? I can show you what > the goal is and > we can talk about solutions. No more than two dozen > adjustable parts I think > (grin). I'll bring a wing :-) Sure Larry ! My fun is directly proportional to the number of parts to make ! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:34:43 -0500 From: "Paul Howard" To: Subject: Re: ot question/ DH2 Message-ID: <004301c23383$d657b600$60928ece@computer> I've been to the link you suggested already, and you are quite right about the good info. I'm really just hoping to find a source for something to work from. Ones I'm most interested in are the 1924-1931 racers. With the scope of interests that some of our list members have, I thought I'd see it anyone had any hints. Thanks, PH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Marshall" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: ot question/ DH2 > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 09:44 pm, you wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source for plans/ drawings for the Italian and > > British families of Schneider Cup racing planes? There are several of > > these aircraft I've been thinking of scratching in 1/32 or 1/24 scale, but > > information and picture are pretty scarce in western Texas. > > That covers a lot of ground since the Schneider Cup ran from 1913 to the > early 30s. Lots of documentation on the Sopwith Schneiders if that's your > pleasure. You might want to start your search here. I don't recall any 3V > but there's some good info. > > http://pgts.free.fr/indexen.html > > Cheers --- Larry > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:25:45 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ot question/ DH2 Message-ID: >From: "Paul Howard" > > > Does anyone know of a source for plans/ drawings for the Italian and > > > British families of Schneider Cup racing planes? Paul, Fwiw, I recently had a bit of luck getting ga drawings from the EAA library in Oshkosh, and also from Model Airplane News. EAA charged me three bucks a page for copies, plus S&H. MAN took a few weeks to answer my email, but when they did answer, it was to say they that my drawings were in the mail. Though with MAN, I was asking for one specific set of drawings that I knew had appeared in a very old(1974) issue and was able to tell them what issue to look in. I didn't save the links, but I'm sure you can find both places on the web. Even I was able to find em. Hth and good luck, E. visit me at... www.sendmeasackofseveredheads.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:48:45 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: ot question/ DH2 Message-ID: <007d01c233a7$7c7fcae0$c7887ed4@oemcomputer> Paul, Go to http://www.bobsairdoc.com But hide your cheque book/ credit card before you do. There is a whole section devoted to Schneider cup aircraft and dozens of interesting aircraft scattered through the list. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Howard" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: [WWI] ot question/ DH2 > Does anyone know of a source for plans/ drawings for the Italian and British > families of Schneider Cup racing planes? There are several of these > aircraft I've been thinking of scratching in 1/32 or 1/24 scale, but > information and picture are pretty scarce in western Texas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:54:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE:Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7105958DEE@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rob says: >I'll go where Queenslanders fail to tread :-) (Hi Shane!) GDay mate.... Of course, you end up saying.... >Sheesh! > >Comparing ribs from photos of E.III and E.IVs don't give a definitive answer >either. Sadly, I've tried...... .....so unhappily, the sandgroper has no more success. Back to Dicta Ira, sez I. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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Umm.... bad choice of words, leave that alone D, you too E :-) Rob B ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 > > Someone needs to get a ladder and measure the EIII in the Science Museum in > London. > > Dave Fleming > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:22:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 Message-ID: <007e01c233c5$3e69f320$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Rob wrote: > Please....please....please....please, > Any volunteers? You can put some Aussies out of our miseries. I'd love to, but I heard that that's illegal in some countries. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:34:07 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Dorme/Guiguet book Message-ID: <00ae01c233c6$ce470fe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > > Great Ceasar's Ghost! Are you telling us that someone wrote a book entirely > > about modeling 1/72 WWI French subjects? > > You must be one happy Bittner. > > It's almost as good - better from a historical aspect. Seriously Matt, you should consider putting togheter the notes you made for the French Modelling section of the website in book format. You won't lack contributors from the list and it will be a curious book. Would people buy it? I can't say, but your notes as they are are very interesting for the modeler looking for the unusual. Just and idea. D. We need to convince Rimell to patronize you, Alberto and a book on Italian colours and modelling techniques and to me to make a limited edition of Enciclopaedia Fernetica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:40:29 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: stainless wire Message-ID: <20020725114149.ZPKV3742.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > Larry - I like to use a lot of steel wire, in the right place, either > .004", .005" and occasionally the .008". It comes either 'soft' or > 'stiff'. Annealed usually suggests that the wire is soft. The soft stuff As I'm trying to purchase, not use wire, might I ask where you are able to buy wire in these three sizes? Right now I'm talking with Ormiston Wire Ltd (in the UK) and they sell hard-annealed and soft-annealed wire. The thing is, their hard-annealed wire only goes down to around .008" but their soft-annealed wire goes down to .003". Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:43:07 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <20020725114438.DFRL6014.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > Sure Larry ! > My fun is directly proportional to the number of parts to make ! ;-) This is definitely a 'one part' or '30 part' tool depending on how many uses you want to put it to I think. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:50:09 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <014501c233d1$6d4f7320$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I guess that this is something easy to do and useful for any kind of modelling. You can name the small tool "the solution for your butt (joint) troubles" :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Munoz > Hmmm, to be frank while reading the > description I'm not quite sure I understood. Do you have a photograph of > your jig Brian ? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:02:09 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <20020725120329.ZXXJ3742.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> On Thursday 25 July 2002 07:51 am, you wrote: > I guess that this is something easy to do and useful for any kind of > modelling. You can name the small tool "the solution for your butt (joint) > troubles" :-) Any advice on what you'd like the tool to do before Daniel and I meet tommorrow for lunch? For myself, I don't see the need for the fuss. I locate pins using a simple scale to measure their location. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:04:25 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Louvers Message-ID: <3D3FE949.3090300@tampabay.rr.com> I forget who suggested using a screwdriver blade to make louvers in 5 thou card. Thanks whoever you were, it works great! I made a louvered inspection hatch for my LVG this way and it worked great. This is the hatch on the underside near the nose. It was obliterated in sanding out the fuselage seam. I took a small screwdriver and poked three dents into some 5 thou card with a flat blade screwdriver held about 45 deg. Took 5 or 6 tries to get three dents even and acceptably placed. Then I cut the hatch to size and outline around the dents. This resulted in a slightly bowed piece due to the distortion of the plasticard being dented. I used a sharp #11 blade to slice the rear of each dent making it a louver and this relieved the stress enough that it glued down flat to the fuselage. TIR Thanks In Retrospect sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:41:49 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= To: "WWI List" Subject: Rosario Message-ID: <00a101c233d8$a54f8600$f80de818@fibertel.com.ar> Situational report; Rosario IPMS After a 300-kilometer trip we landed in Rosario,pretty city similar to Buenos Aires but smaller. After the usual check in,in our hotel Diego came and we went to his house; where we were greeted by his "nice dog" Who hadn't ate his cristian of the day. We were in this cozy house,when I realised that Diego's bedroom seemed the little terror shop. Every time one intended to enter the room,the dog wanted to eat one's bones. When one entered the room you were sent back to WW1; Martin wide-eyes opened with the couriosity that each eye went to a different book. I've seen many books in my own house,and from many years ago; It's strange that two people who leave far away have the same things at the same time,would they be The Corso brothers???????? Martin started reading the data file the little dog showed her teeth,I sure that a shark had them smaller. I had to intervine,my stockings are sacred: They're FOGAL (Swiss made). I used the atavic Abruzzese shout for wolves: "Vatene dai" (Go away) very energically said. The result was inmediate,the savauge dog run and laid under the table. T Then the solemn moment dressed in jeans and top hat Diego gave Martin the symbol of the list;a strange cockade with an aeroplane drawn in it. Conversations continued until dinner time;we met Diego's mother and the dog stopped seeing us as her steak for dinner. First Rosarino meeting the zaga will continue.... Rosa The chronicle ( Martin's wife) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:48:10 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <001001c233d9$880fc590$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> After a nice visual explanation off-line from Larry, I think I understood the problem. And this morning (yes, my ideas came when I sleep, go figure) I found a very simple way, no specific tool necessary. Before explaining it and embarrass myself, a quick question: Could it be good enough to spot the place to make the holes for the pins with a felt marker and there drill the spots free-hand, instead of having a template with already made holes in it to guide the drilling on both sides ? Of course the idea is a way to spot with the marker *very* precisely the locations. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On > Behalf Of Diego Fernetti > Sent: July 25, 2002 7:51 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Broken Wings > > > I guess that this is something easy to do and useful for any > kind of modelling. You can name the small tool "the solution > for your butt (joint) troubles" :-) D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Daniel Munoz > > Hmmm, to be frank while reading the > > description I'm not quite sure I understood. Do you have a > photograph > > of your jig Brian ? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:57:47 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Wing of Fokker E.III by Eduard 1/72 Message-ID: >From: "Diego Fernetti" >Rob wrote: > > Please....please....please....please, > > Any volunteers? You can put some Aussies out of our miseries. > >I'd love to, but I heard that that's illegal in some countries. Only if you're hunting them out of season. E. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:04:22 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 90% done Message-ID: <3D3FF756.4070600@tampabay.rr.com> It never ceases to amaze me how all the little touch-ups and fixes mount up so fast when you are nearing the home stretch on a model. A touch of paint here, a dab of watercolor pencil there and don't forget that little tab of loz on the aileron edge that needs to be stuck down...again. "Ninety percent done and ninety percent to go", is the phrase the EAA crowd uses to describe this stage. it's about right. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:54:52 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: Daniel Munoz asks: <<<>>> >Before explaining it and embarrass myself, a quick question: >Could it be good enough to spot the place to make the holes for the pins >with a felt marker and there drill the spots free-hand, instead of >having a template with already made holes in it to guide the drilling on >both sides ? Of course the idea is a way to spot with the marker *very* >precisely the locations. The only problem with this is when you start to drill the holes. You need to be very precise. On a fresh plastic surface the bit might tend to 'skitter' or 'walk' as you start drilling, and the hole moves from the precisely marked spot. One way to help avoid this is to make a pilot mark with the point of needle, but there is still the risk that the torque of drilling will make it move off-center as the bit 'bites' and then you'll never get it back where you want it. That is the main advantage of jigs - holding the two parts together in the right configuration so that both are drilled together at the same angle. It can be done 'freehand,' but be aware of where you are going at all times. .Mark. Daniel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:03:50 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <20020725140503.GOIX1568.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > That is the main advantage of jigs - holding the two parts together in the > right configuration so that both are drilled together at the same angle. > It can be done 'freehand,' but be aware of where you are going at all > times. Jigs are great but what have you done to make a jig that's not specific to the particular set of wing pieces you're trying to join? It seems to me that hole location and the ability to put both wings 'together' will vary from wing to wing, depending on their thickness, camber, chord, etc. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:10:38 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: As Mark points out, the jig gets the angles straight as it guides the drill into the work surface. The jig holds the drill at 90 degrees because it is cast metal, of a substantial depth, it is not a flat plate jig folded from PE brass. I will get a digital photo of the jig and send it to Matt or Al for placement on the site somewhere so that folks can get an idea of what it looks like. Mine is for 1/72, I think it would work on some 1/48 parts, but another larger casting might be better. And I don't see any reason that the part could not be made out of resin itself, as long as you don't try to glue it to the wing! -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:33:03 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <20020725143503.XNTR20747.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > The jig holds the drill at 90 degrees because it is cast metal, of a > substantial depth, it is not a flat plate jig folded from PE brass. I would agree that this is far more important jig work than the actual location of the hole. > I will get a digital photo of the jig and send it to Matt or Al for > placement on the site If there's a chance that you'll get that shot before Saturday at noon, could you also send a copy to me at larrym@sympatico.ca > somewhere so that folks can get an idea of what it looks like. > Mine is for 1/72, I think it would work on some 1/48 parts, but another My headscratching comes from how, along the chord, you want your jig to have drill guides in it. A Gotha wing is considerably thicker both in chord and rib thickness than is an Albatros wing in the same scale. > And I don't see any reason that the part could not be > made out of resin itself, as long as you don't try to glue it to the wing! You need to hang out with Daniel. He'll convince you that your toothbrush should be made of metal :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:34:49 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: Broken Wings - Adhesive tape ring idea Message-ID: <001801c233e8$6e688cd0$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> > >Could it be good enough to spot the place to make the holes > for the pins > The only problem with this is when you start to drill the > holes. You need to be very precise. On a fresh plastic I understand that this could be a problem. Anyway here's my quick and dirty idea, and a try to explain it in English. Larry is well accustomed to my jabberwocky and I'm sure he could translate ;-) As always, it's much quicker to do that to explain. Make a ring with transparent adhesive tape, the sticky side *outside* the ring. The length of the tape should be about 3 time the length of the surface you want to assemble with pins. Flatten the ring and stick it to cover the surface where you want to drill holes on one of the plastic pieces (choose the one where it's easier to stick the ring flat). stick it while keeping a good tension on the two piece of tape that cover the plastic surface now. Drill though the tapes on the places where you want the pins. Drill as many holes as you want. If the holes are already made, drill the tapes only at the same places, to create a nice "clean" hole through both adhesive tapes. Stick the second plastic part in place, carefully adjusting the position. This should be easier if you use good quality tape, very thin & transparent and very sticky. Then, and the magic reside just here, cut with a sharp blade the flatten ring at each extremity, to separate it in two parts. The plastic piece not drilled should have tape with holes on it (or else I wasn't clear enough in my explanations). This is where the felt marker came. Use it when the tape still stick on the plastic piece to spot through the holes, then remove the tape. Or, as an alternative and without using a marker, drill directly through the existing holes in the tape. Maybe this would be sufficient to keep the drill from waddling. Then remove the adhesive tape from the plastic pieces, and voila ! You have as many pin holes as you want, all precisely drilled in place in both matching plastic pieces. Now that I have embarrassed myself, you can flame me and tell me what's wrong with the idea 8*) Of course, an aluminium jig could be made to replace the ring idea. It could be two thin frames joined together with positioning pins and you could stick the tape on both frames, and then after drilling through it, separate the frames, each one staying sticked of its own plastic piece. For the tool lovers *only*, I could make that ;-) Daniel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:52:47 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Broken Wings - Adhesive tape ring idea Message-ID: <20020725145433.MVDG8571.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > dirty idea, and a try to explain it in English. Larry is well accustomed > to my jabberwocky and I'm sure he could translate ;-) As always, it's I can't translate this :-) My tape doesn't have the dimensional stability required to make this work in my view. It also seems quite complicated relative to need. Since it doesn't address the 'make the hole vertical and centered' part of the problem, it doesn't help much. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:57:40 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: Broken Wings Message-ID: <001901c233eb$9f3f92b0$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> > You need to hang out with Daniel. He'll convince you that > your toothbrush > should be made of metal :-) > > Cheers --- Larry > Well, of course ! Isn't that OBVIOUS !!?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:40:32 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Friedrichshafen FF43 - part 2 Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301DF830B@TUFAO> Oh, I forgot. What make of enngine did this beast use? Thanks Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:49:03 From: "DR.CALICO MOORE" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: VERY URGENT Message-ID: <3D3FB05F00018FB2@mta01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Att, PRESIDENT /CEO REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP First, I must solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. In order to commence this business, we solicit your assistance to enable Us transfer into your account the said trapped funds. 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Yours Faithfully, DR.KELVIN MOORE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:43:15 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Camel Underside color Message-ID: <3D402AA3.4020205@tampabay.rr.com> Got a request for info on the color of the underside of a Camel fuselage from a local club member. Is the underside of the Camel fuselage PC-10 or CDl. (assuming a British machine). I am inclined toward CDL, but thought I'd better check first. TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:44:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Adhesive tape ring idea Message-ID: <029501c233fa$934c7fe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I'm not sure if I understood well, but why don't try that next time! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Munoz > Of course, an aluminium jig could be made to replace the ring idea. It > could be two thin frames joined together with positioning pins and you > could stick the tape on both frames, and then after drilling through it, > separate the frames, each one staying sticked of its own plastic piece. > Daniel > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:48:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Camel Underside color Message-ID: <02bc01c233fb$2af1e920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> All flying surfaces CDL undersides with a band of PC 10 about one inch wide all around (except the wingroots) Fuselage has aluminium from the cowl, varnished wood and CDL aft the cockpit area. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: [WWI] Camel Underside color > Got a request for info on the color of the underside of a Camel fuselage > from a local club member. > > Is the underside of the Camel fuselage PC-10 or CDl. (assuming a British > machine). I am inclined toward CDL, but thought I'd better check first. > > TIA sp > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:57:38 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Camel Underside color Message-ID: <3D402E02.6040302@tampabay.rr.com> Thanks Diego Was the PC-10 wrap around done on the fuselage as well? ap Diego Fernetti wrote: > All flying surfaces CDL undersides with a band of PC 10 about one inch wide > all around (except the wingroots) Fuselage has aluminium from the cowl, > varnished wood and CDL aft the cockpit area. > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Perry > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:45 PM > Subject: [WWI] Camel Underside color > > > >>Got a request for info on the color of the underside of a Camel fuselage >>from a local club member. >> >>Is the underside of the Camel fuselage PC-10 or CDl. (assuming a British >>machine). I am inclined toward CDL, but thought I'd better check first. >> >>TIA sp >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:08:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Camel Underside color Message-ID: <030101c233fd$f6135600$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I guess not... must check that! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Camel Underside color > Thanks Diego > > Was the PC-10 wrap around done on the fuselage as well? > ap > > Diego Fernetti wrote: > > > All flying surfaces CDL undersides with a band of PC 10 about one inch wide > > all around (except the wingroots) Fuselage has aluminium from the cowl, > > varnished wood and CDL aft the cockpit area. > > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steven Perry > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:45 PM > > Subject: [WWI] Camel Underside color > > > > > > > >>Got a request for info on the color of the underside of a Camel fuselage > >>from a local club member. > >> > >>Is the underside of the Camel fuselage PC-10 or CDl. (assuming a British > >>machine). I am inclined toward CDL, but thought I'd better check first. > >> > >>TIA sp > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4547 **********************