WWI Digest 4543 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Model Painting with Oils by "Ray Boorman" 2) Re: OEF Albatros by Larry Marshall 3) Re: OEF Albatros by "Ray Boorman" 4) Re: OEF Albatros by Larry Marshall 5) Re: OEF Albatros by "Michael Kendix" 6) Re: OTF AH project by "Mike Muth" 7) Roden decals by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: Special Hobby SPAD VII etc by "Mike Muth" 9) Re: Phoenix D.I by "Mike Muth" 10) Re: Roden decals by Steven Perry 11) Re: JaPo book news by "Matt Bittner" 12) Aeroplane Books by "Mike Muth" 13) Re: Model Painting with Oils by "Matt Bittner" 14) Le Bourget by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 15) Re: Model Painting with Oils by Larry Marshall 16) mono-filiment revisted by Tom Plesha 17) Re: Roden decals by "Pedro Soares" 18) Re: Roden decals by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: Roden decals by Steven Perry 20) Britains figures: by "Robert Horton" 21) Re: Roden decals by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: Britains figures: by Larry Marshall 23) Re: JaPo book news by "Marek Mincbergr" 24) Hit Kit OEF Albatros by "Dave Burke" 25) Nationals eating meeting by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 26) Re: Nationals eating meeting by Karen Rychlewski 27) Re: Exsisting Pfalz D.XII by Karen Rychlewski 28) Re: US visitor by Karen Rychlewski 29) Re: Exsisting Pfalz D.XII by "David Watts" 30) Re: OTF AH project by "Bob Pearson" 31) Re: Roden decals by "Pedro N. Soares" 32) Re: Hit Kit OEF Albatros by "Matt Bittner" 33) Re: Hit Kit OEF Albatros by "Diego Fernetti" 34) RE: Le Bourget by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:06:29 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Model Painting with Oils Message-ID: Larry, Historex are great imo, sure the molds of some are from the sixties and seventies but they build up well and there is such a large range. For their time they were works of art as far as I am concerned. Historex is still going by the way and they have another line called Nemrod. Just to keep this OT they have some wwi figures in this line. All in 54mm of course. Airfix also did some 54mm models. In fact Bob Pearson did a review a few years ago in internet modeller. Another good line but they're metal are Andreas Miniatures and Pegaso Here's some links for reference. all time periods including OT are covered. http://www.historex.com/ http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/eng/index/index.htm http://www.pegasomodels.com/home_en.asp This one is a figures discussion page http://forums.delphiforums.com/tntlinks/start > >Yeah...they are pretty cools.  Was was certainly different when you >dressed to be a better target.  Given that you're into Napoleonics, >and that you do plastic figures, do you find the Historex figures >acceptable by today's standards?  I'd like to do a few myself and >their pricing is certainly inviting. ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:11:30 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OEF Albatros Message-ID: <200207221511.30283.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Who makes an OEF conversion for the Albatros for a series 253? Anybody > have a spare Pegasus kit? I believe that the Roden Albatros D.II (OEF s53) has all the parts necessary to convert one of their D.III kits. Tail is there, as are the nose parts. What else is required? You can see all the parts on the Roden site. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:10:21 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OEF Albatros Message-ID: Aren't Roden coming out with a "1/72" Series 253 or was i imagining it?? I thought everything but 1/72 was the dark side ;) ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Lance Krieg" Jeez, I think DB has gone completely over to the dark side. Build it in 1/48, using an Eduard kit with pieces from the Glencoe model,  or the Blue Max version. Lance ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:24:46 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OEF Albatros Message-ID: <200207221524.46536.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Aren't Roden coming out with a "1/72" Series 253 or was i imagining > it?? I thought everything but 1/72 was the dark side ;) Yes they are Ray. From what I saw when I did the Series 53 DII, all the sprues are cast. They just need to do the box, decals and instructions. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:28:22 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OEF Albatros Message-ID: >From: "Ray Boorman" >Aren't Roden coming out with a "1/72" Series 253 or was i imagining >it?? Oeffag D.II 53, Oeffag D.III, 153(early and late) and 253. >I thought everything but 1/72 was the dark side ;) Let's just say "wayward". Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:10:04 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: OTF AH project Message-ID: <008a01c231c4$270e6100$6047bacc@ptdprolog.net> Of course not ;-)) I mentioned this to the whole list about a month ago. So far there are 8 of us doing Oeffag Alb. There is plenty of time, so why not start one and bring it? Mike Muth > Hey! > > "...those of us attending the Over The Front Seminar in Dayton in > September, '03 have decided on a group project: building Oef. DIII's in > AH service...We all decided on 1/72nd as a group." > > Funny, I don't recall this conversation. I'll bet Tom Morgan and > Graham Hunter don't, either. > > But we can still come, if we promise not to bring anything? ;-) > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:22:43 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Roden decals Message-ID: I'm contemplating using decals out of a Roden box (the "Late 153" Oeffag D.III) and was wondering what the lists' opinion was on Roden decals. Wortwhile, or replace? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:26:35 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Special Hobby SPAD VII etc Message-ID: <00c501c231c6$75a79dc0$6047bacc@ptdprolog.net> I can't work up any interest in doing a SPAD 13 right now, but I've been > wanting to do a SPAD VII for years. I might even do multiples if the right > markings come out. Heck, I might even finish a model in under a year! There are 2 new sheets from Aeromaster for the SPAD VII. I hope the kit is ok....then again, it is better than the alternative. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:27:52 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: Subject: Re: Phoenix D.I Message-ID: <00cc01c231c6$a3960a00$6047bacc@ptdprolog.net> Karen I was getting ready to do the naval version pretty soon. Thanks for the info from me too! Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Rychlewski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Phoenix D.I > > > Dave Burke wrote: > > > Sorry about the missing umlaut, > > My condolences--hope you find it soon... > > > but I need some info re: Phonix D.I > > known as J.12, used in A-H Naval service and depicted in the Pegasus kit. I > > notice that on page 22 in the Datafile, the aircraft is shown as captured, > > with the upper-wing kreuzen blanked out and a fuselage sash. Does anyone > > have pics of this bird before it was captured? And what about the sash - > > was that an A-H marking or an Italian marking? And what color were the > > crosses likely blanked out with? Also: can anyone fill me in on the color > > of the upper-wing center section? > > The old "Profile" publication incorrectly labels this as "J.1" but adds that > the patches on the wings resulted from Italian souvenir hunters helping > themselves to the crosses; color of added patches is unknown. The "Flugzeuge > der k.u.k. ..." tome doesn't include a photo of J.12 but other naval Phonixs > (-es, -nice, ??) used simple bands and zig-zags so J.12's is probably an AH > marking (white?). The upper wing center is most likely CDL (see DF photo below > the one of J.12)--I think the apparent difference is a trick of lighting. But > both J.12 and J.4 have a rectangular panel on the right side of the center > section that definitely is something different--anyone know what that is? > > Karen > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:27:55 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: <3D3C78DB.4080309@tampabay.rr.com> Sprayed with clear decal film and trimmed close, they should be usable. sp Matt Bittner wrote: > I'm contemplating using decals out of a Roden box (the "Late 153" > Oeffag D.III) and was wondering what the lists' opinion was on > Roden decals. Wortwhile, or replace? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:31:27 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: JaPo book news Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:50:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian Nicklas wrote: > Have a visit today from two gentlemen associated with JaPo books in the > Czech Republic. > (One is the fellow who does their profiles.) > They mentioned that they have a title in production on the Aviatik Berg. > Should be as nice as the Albatros D.II &D.III Oeffag book.... Yea, but this has been known now for about two years. Is it truly going to see the light of day? It appears to be as allusive as the Emhar A7V... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:44:44 -0400 From: "Mike Muth" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Aeroplane Books Message-ID: <015601c231c8$fea76a40$6047bacc@ptdprolog.net> Stopped off here on my vacation. Kind of like being in book heaven. If you are in Williamsburg area, stop by. It is hard to find but worth it. The owners are real nice people. Spent way too much $$ there. Picked up Vol. 3 of the DVII anthology. There will be a Vol. 4 dealing with postwar and movie DVII's. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:44:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Model Painting with Oils Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT), Larry Marshall wrote: > Given your description, it doesn't look like you 'used' the slow drying time > in any way. Could you clarify? Actually I did. Blended in areas that didn't "look right". Used a "cotton bud" (Q-Tip) to remove some oil from areas, etc. > Did you go back over this in some way, doing some blending of the strokes or > something? If not, wouldn't thinned enamels work as well? Yes, went back over. I don't like enamels in general, so that's why I didn't use them. I wanted to experiment, and since it's *only* a Fokker Triplane, didn't think anything more of it. ;-) Seriously, though, the oils will definitely dry slower than enamels. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:02:28 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Le Bourget Message-ID: <20020722220228.8762834893@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, I have got the prints from my visit to the WW1 department at Le Bourget, the usual mix of good and not so good photos which will take some time to scan. Is there someone who has an ongoing project where images of a specific aircraft could be useful so that I should move it to the top of the list? Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:09:23 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Model Painting with Oils Message-ID: <200207221809.23085.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Actually I did. Blended in areas that didn't "look right". Used > a "cotton bud" (Q-Tip) to remove some oil from areas, etc. Ah...left out line "and then I acted like an artist" from your description. This is probably good as the rest of us can continue with our illusion that it doesn't take talent to build model airplanes (grin). > Yes, went back over. I assumed that you would have to if you were to get the desired results. > I don't like enamels in general, so that's > why I didn't use them. If I could get them without smell, I'd use them exclusively. Different strokes. > I wanted to experiment, and since it's > *only* a Fokker Triplane, And you're not even painting it red. > Seriously, though, the oils will definitely dry slower than > enamels. :-) I have in the plan an early DVII with streaked fabric. Your method is similar to that used by Bill Arnold (msg filed away for DVII guidance) except that he used Raw Umber, straight from the tube. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi Subject: mono-filiment revisted Message-ID: <20020722232200.28263.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All- I would like to thank all who responded to my question regarding rigging. .. First, I discovered that my ability to stretch sprue for rigging is non-existent! I must have tried about 20 times without success. .. So, FWIW, I needed a length of mono-filiment about 1 1/4 inches long tied between to parts without a bend in it and I could not put tension on it. .. What I ended up doing was to stretch a length of mono-filiment overnight and then attach it to a clamp pulling it taught. I then coated it with about 15 or so coats of clear laquer-wiping it down very lightly after each coat to remove the "beading", it worked for me. .. Thanks again .. Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:14:59 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: <00bb01c231d5$99ba1760$286e16d5@netcabo.pt> Matt, I second Steve's opinion. The white areas are usualy very prone to desintegrating when you immerse the decal in water. I usualy coat the decals with super scale decal film and even so most of the times the white breaks. I've experienced this in the DVI and the DVII I'm finishing. It's strange because I never had that kind of problem with toko. Also the lozenge decals are almost "unbendable" at the edges of the wings. This notwithstanding they are usualy pretty good in terms of printing, but the crosses usualy have problems of register between the white and black. HTH Pedro > Sprayed with clear decal film and trimmed close, they should be usable. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:58:03 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: Thanks to Pedro and sp for the answers. I wonder if you can coat them with Future instead of liquid decal film. Thoughts? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:07:23 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: <3D3C9E3B.7010201@tampabay.rr.com> Dono about Future without experimenting, but I have learned one thing about coating decals and this goes for any coating: Coat before you cut. If you cut out a decal and then coat it,(brush or spray), you end up coating the edge and this often makes it difficult for the decal to slide off the backing. Kind of glues it to the paper along the edge. If you must cut out a decal before coating it, leave as much room as possible around the image and then re-trim it closely after coating it. hth sp Matt Bittner wrote: > Thanks to Pedro and sp for the answers. > > I wonder if you can coat them with Future instead of liquid decal > film. Thoughts? > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:26:29 -0500 From: "Robert Horton" To: Subject: Britains figures: Message-ID: <000101c231df$978e2b20$fcc11640@S0026230563> Howdy crew: This is a little ot but will try to be short for this question. Thought that so many really keep close eyes on local hobby shops...does anyone know of a website for Britains figures and diorama pieces...there is a local guy in Dubuque, Iowa that is doing research for projects for Ertl Models who bought out Britains...I have spoken to him...he was in to check out reference material at Rock Island Arsenal Museum. Would like to check out what that line of figures includes..know they do WW II stuff but what else...thanks....Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:38:10 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: >From: "Pedro Soares" >I second Steve's opinion. The white areas are usualy very prone to >desintegrating when you immerse the decal in water. Well I was leaning towards an Oeffag D.II scheme without any white borders so that makes it definite now! >I usualy coat the decals with super scale decal film and even so most >of >the times the white breaks. I use MicroScale Liquid Decal Film sprayed through an airbrush - works well and I didn't have to dilute (Paasche H was used). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:59:25 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Britains figures: Message-ID: <200207222059.25760.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Monday 22 July 2002 08:27 pm, you wrote: > Howdy crew: This is a little ot but will try to be short for this > question. Thought that so many really keep close eyes on local hobby > shops...does anyone know of a website for Britains figures and diorama > pieces...there is a local guy in Dubuque, Iowa that is doing research > for projects for Ertl Models who bought out Britains...I have spoken to > him...he was in to check out reference material at Rock Island Arsenal > Museum. Would like to check out what that line of figures includes..know > they do WW II stuff but what else...thanks....Bob Horton This should help. http://www.atstoysoldiers.axxs.net/BRITAINS.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:20:30 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: Re: JaPo book news Message-ID: <01b101c23200$677058c0$26f35ad4@j> Hi all I am in contact with it's author (Mr. P.A. Tesar). Due some problems (temporary lack of painter of colour profiles). Because of this he don't suspect its release before christmass time. I am sory, gantleman... :(( BR Marek > Have a visit today from two gentlemen associated with JaPo books in the > Czech Republic. > (One is the fellow who does their profiles.) > They mentioned that they have a title in production on the Aviatik Berg. > Should be as nice as the Albatros D.II &D.III Oeffag book.... > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:11:14 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Hit Kit OEF Albatros Message-ID: <000701c23207$5f2f7220$ed93aec7@s0024008072> Hi Y'all, Any opinions on the 253 series kit? If it's bad, where can I get the new Roden one? DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:05:03 -0500 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Nationals eating meeting Message-ID: Do we have a updated date and time for the get together in Va. Beach? JP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:31:16 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nationals eating meeting Message-ID: <3D3CEA25.B9F74521@earthlink.net> John Huggins wondered: > Do we have a updated date and time for the get together in Va. Beach? Funny you should ask... After serious thought and some suggestions from famished folk, I decided to try for Saturday lunch--that's 3 August, probably 12:30 as the reservation time. That seemed like a good alternative that should be available to almost everyone. All y'all coming to the Nats, remember to sign in with Barry at the Rosemont table in the vendor's area so I know where you are staying. Basically, the plan will be that we'll all meet at high noon at the front door of the conference center, divey ourselves up into available cars, and convoy off to the restaurant. But I really need to have a more-or-less accurate number of eaters by, say, Friday night to make sure we get a table or whatever that's large enough for the horde. I *think* there is a beach nearby (I'll check when I get into town) so whoever likes might consider bringing appropriate apparel for a dip in the sea. Many of you are bringing spouses, offspring, friends, neighbors, etc. to the Nats--all of the above are welcome to join the 'eating meeting' (I love the phrase, John!)--your choice as to whether you want to reveal your dark side to them. I just heard from Vaso the scratchbuilding Slovak and he is definitely coming from NYC--24 hour trip by Greyhound. How many of you would sit on a bus in a foreign country for 24 hours, eating in bus stations, hoping to be met at the other end and link up with a bunch of seriously loony strangers and spend three days looking at plastic models? Gotta give the guy credit, eh? Anyone else decided to come to the Nats? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:49:11 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Exsisting Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: <3D3CEE58.26527691@earthlink.net> Jumping into this a little late... Brian listed the four he knows of. I have a vague recollection of seeing one at "Aerodrome 92" in Alabama: seems like it was part of the collection of the guy who organized the fly-in (can't recall his name--he was killed a couple years later flying to Minnesota). Am I hallucinating? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:03:51 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: US visitor Message-ID: <3D3CF1C8.41A322BA@earthlink.net> Hi Tom Vaso's bus from NYC is scheduled to arrive at 10:30 PM Thursday. Since Mack Harris is getting in even later than that, it looks like Vaso will move into your room. I'll pick him up at the bus station in VA Beach; but a small favor, please: I don't know where the bus station is, but they're usually in the grubbiest part of town. If you don't have any big plans for the evening, would you (and Lance, if he likes) mind coming with me to wait for Vaso? How's the DH coming along? Gonna finish it? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:13:20 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: Re: Exsisting Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: I don't recall a Pfalz D.XII at Frank Ryder's air show of any scale. I recall that Frank had purchased one of the Pfalz D.IIIa Blue Max aircraft and it was sitting in a hanger in very poor condition. Frank had the Albatros and Siemens and possibly your thinking of one of these. Best, Dave W. P.S. I can recall when Doug Champlain paid around $20,000 (or less) for the original Pfalz D.XII (with a Mercedes in it) from the Wings and Wheels auction. Ouch!! I couldn't believe he "stole" it for that little. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Karen Rychlewski Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Exsisting Pfalz D.XII Jumping into this a little late... Brian listed the four he knows of. I have a vague recollection of seeing one at "Aerodrome 92" in Alabama: seems like it was part of the collection of the guy who organized the fly-in (can't recall his name--he was killed a couple years later flying to Minnesota). Am I hallucinating? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:52:36 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OTF AH project Message-ID: <102740608401@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> First I've heard of it as well. . sounds like it is just something they made up. Bob (been to 4.5 OTF seminars to date) ---------- >From: "Lance Krieg" > Hey! > > "...those of us attending the Over The Front Seminar in Dayton in > September, '03 have decided on a group project: building Oef. DIII's in > AH service...We all decided on 1/72nd as a group." > > Funny, I don't recall this conversation. I'll bet Tom Morgan and > Graham Hunter don't, either. > > But we can still come, if we promise not to bring anything? ;-) > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:47:48 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden decals Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301DF75F4@TUFAO> Matt, Never tried it myself, but, come to think of it, probably the best option, if you really must use the decals, would be to first coat in future and then in decal film. BTW I use a cotton bud to coat the decals with liquid film. Saves the hassle of having to clean the airbrush and works fine. Once the film sets it absolutely unnoticeable. Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: terça-feira, 23 de Julho de 2002 0:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Roden decals > > > Thanks to Pedro and sp for the answers. > > I wonder if you can coat them with Future instead of liquid decal > film. Thoughts? > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:34:46 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Hit Kit OEF Albatros Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:00:12 -0400 (EDT), Dave Burke wrote: > Any opinions on the 253 series kit? If it's bad, where can I get the > new Roden one? I'm surprised Michael Kendix hasn't spoken up on this one. ;-) HitKit anything requires a ton of work. If you have the HK 253, I would suggest tracking down the Blue Rider vac fuselage and using that instead of the kit one. You'll still have to (probably) scratch all the struts, but it should get you in the right direction. As far as the Roden one goes, it's not due out until next month - which means we'll probably see it in the US towards the end of August/beginning of September. The D.II Oeffag and the D.III Late 153 are the only ones I know of out now. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:17:21 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Hit Kit OEF Albatros Message-ID: <005401c2323a$83cdf4c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael Kendix is the hero who actually built one of the HK Albatrosen Dimensionally, they're OK, and compare well with the datafile drawings. I suspect that the kit is based on the Goworek drawings, however, because of some details and the PE layout (it copies the same parts as in the book!), but never scaled down the book drawings to check. The main parts are OK, but the little ones are short cast and needs replacement. LOTS of flash. I'm sure that as in the LVG C.V, the master was exceptionally good, but the molds of the kit are awful, and the quality control of the factory very poor. It's a real pity. The decals are superb and the painting choices multiple. Buy it just for the decals. D. > On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:00:12 -0400 (EDT), Dave Burke wrote: > > Any opinions on the 253 series kit? If it's bad, where can I get the > new Roden one? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:51:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Le Bourget Message-ID: <00c101c2323f$37746aa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well, Knut, you know we all are junkies for new images, even of old friends like those planes on Le Bourget! Scan and send all you have, we never have enough! Any pictures of pre ww1 machines? What about the Antoinette, the Morane G and others? D. PS. A nieuport 11 is next in queue for me... any lower wingroot image available? ----- Original Message ----- From: Knut Erik Hagen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: [WWI] Le Bourget > Hei, > > I have got the prints from my visit to the WW1 department at Le Bourget, > the usual mix of good and not so good photos which will take some time to scan. > > Is there someone who has an ongoing project where images of a specific > aircraft could be useful so that I should move it to the top of the list? > > > Eders > Knut Erik > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4543 **********************