WWI Digest 4538 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Back by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: Back by "Michael Kendix" 3) Re: Back by "Brian Nicklas" 4) RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, by Larry Marshall 5) RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, by Larry Marshall 6) Re: 1/3 Scale Aircraft by Larry Marshall 7) NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by "Brian Nicklas" 9) Re: 1/3 Scale Aircraft by "Thomas Solinski" 10) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by "Lance Krieg" 11) a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance by Tom Plesha 13) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours by "Matt Bittner" 14) RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, by "ernest thomas" 15) peter smart's early birds by "ernest thomas" 16) Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance by "Lee M." 17) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by PetersList@aol.com 18) www.searchshoes.com sell all kind of stock shoes by "www.searchshoes.com" <85626511@163.com> 19) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 20) Albatros DII book by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 21) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Michael Kendix" 22) RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: Back by "Diego Fernetti" 24) Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Diego Fernetti" 26) I'm an idiot! (So, what's new?) by "Michael Kendix" 27) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by Larry Marshall 28) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Michael Kendix" 29) Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back by PetersList@aol.com 30) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: I'm an idiot! (So, what's new?) by PetersList@aol.com 32) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "ernest thomas" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:48:40 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Back Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > Welcome back. Wich kit did you had while on the road? Off topic ground-pounder. ;-) > And re paint the Pfalz D.XII in its wartime colours please! No doubt!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:56:20 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back Message-ID: Wot! I thought all German WW1 planes were supposed to be red? What was it's original scheme? Mr. Nicklas? Michael >On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > And re paint the Pfalz D.XII in its wartime colours please! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:05:04 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back Message-ID: It flew far more hours in Hollywood than it did in Germany, so it was repainted in a Hollywood scheme, rather than repainted in a German scheme. The gallery is titled "Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air" so it covers the "Legend" side of the story. -Brian Wot! I thought all German WW1 planes were supposed to be red? What was it's original scheme? Mr. Nicklas? Michael >On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:51:09 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > And re paint the Pfalz D.XII in its wartime colours please! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:10:22 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, Message-ID: <200207191610.22919.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Friday 19 July 2002 01:23 pm, you wrote: > Larry wrote: > > Guys....John Ernst's OT models are in the WWI gallery. > > But Jim is not subscribed... You don't need to be subscribed to anything to visit the WWI website. I'm not following you. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:11:46 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, Message-ID: <200207191611.46280.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Friday 19 July 2002 01:51 pm, you wrote: > From: Larry Marshall > > >Guys....John Ernst's OT models are in the WWI gallery. > > Forgive me. I've been away. > And just cos they're there doesn't mean everyone has seen them. I was providing information, Ernest. Sorry you took offense. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:16:07 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/3 Scale Aircraft Message-ID: <200207191616.07087.larrym@sympatico.ca> > interested in detailing a 1/3 scale Mick Reeves Models Sopwith Camel and > was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to the best places to get > materials and documentation photos to do so. Also, if anyone knows any > good suppliers of prefab parts, i.e. instrument panels, insignias, and Documentation source is Albatros Publications...Windsock Datafile on the Camel. I'm pretty sure that Mick sells a bunch of detail parts for his design. > some names, web sites, addresses, or e-mail addresses. Finally, does > anyone know whether or not a Mick Reeves model is exact scale as it is Mick has a long history of building exact scale models. His performance in competition suggests it's more than advertising. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:53:23 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: >From: "Brian Nicklas" > >It flew far more hours in Hollywood than it did in Germany, so it was >repainted in a Hollywood scheme, rather than repainted in a German > >scheme. > >The gallery is titled "Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air" so >it >covers the "Legend" side of the story. Now, I can understand that repainting it today would be expensive and perhaps NASM don't know the original colours but your response sounds a bit "Official" to me:). So, when they paint the upper surface of the Il-2 in a light-grey/dark-grey scheme, will they re-label that part of the gallery as "Fictional Schema of the USSR Air Service" or some such? Sorry for the off-topic sleight! I suggest they change the name of the WW1 gallery and paint the thing in its original colours:). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:00:27 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: Now, I can understand that repainting it today would be expensive and perhaps NASM don't know the original colours but your response sounds a bit "Official" to me:). ******************************** I can neither confirm nor deny. - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:20:24 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: 1/3 Scale Aircraft Message-ID: <010301c22f6a$189741c0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Seth welcome to the list. There are a handful of R/C flyers here on the list, none of us ambitious as you though. Can't help you with the parts but this list is a treasure trove of detail knowledge Tom Solinski OKC MrT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth E Travis" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: [WWI] 1/3 Scale Aircraft > I am new to this list and was wondering if anyone on the list does > anything with 1/3 scale aircraft, especially radio controlled. I am > interested in detailing a 1/3 scale Mick Reeves Models Sopwith Camel and > was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to the best places to get > materials and documentation photos to do so. Also, if anyone knows any > good suppliers of prefab parts, i.e. instrument panels, insignias, and > other scale finishing touches, I would appreciate it if you could give me > some names, web sites, addresses, or e-mail addresses. Finally, does > anyone know whether or not a Mick Reeves model is exact scale as it is > advertised? I understand that this is not a predominately R/C mailing > list, but I thought that I would give it a try and any information at all > will be a great help. > > Thanks in advance for your assistance, > Seth Travis > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:06:42 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: I certainly would rather see that Pfalz in it's original colors (and I'd *really* like those planes more accessible), but I seem to recall that it was never delivered to an operational unit in Germany, and perhaps not even finished until after the Armistice. To further the discussion, how is it equipped? With phoney guns, a different engine, and 1930s era instrumentation? I have hardly ever given it a glance, on my visits, as I am looking for something closer to an operational machine. I tend to regard the Pfalz about the same way I feel about Snoopy's dog house, though I appreciate its long history and salute its durability (or luck). Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:37:14 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance Message-ID: <1ab.560941e.2a69e08a@aol.com> In a message dated 7/18/02 10:05:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Brian.Nicklas@nasm.si.edu writes: << What's next on the workbench? D. >> Well, shucks- at the moment mostly a lot of dust, junk, possibly some long-dead critters. What's next? Mos' likely more of the same. I'll tell y'all why.....this is something that's been cooking for a long time. On Saturday September 21, a new exhibit opens at the San Diego Aerospace Museum entitled " The Aviation Art of Robert Karr". Hokey name huh? Anyway- this has been brewing for over a year, with constantly changing dates, but it's finally cut in stone. Getting ready for this has absorbed nearly all my "spare" time for months. Aside from my usual painting gigs ( watch for a major bigass On-Topic book soon......both the front and back covers are mine), I've been struggling to get as much new stuff done as I can for the exhibit. There WILL be on-topic items in the show (and not just involving a flamingo or two). Oh- and the night before the public opening, there'll be a private cocktial party kind of thang, so I can get drunk and disgrace myself in front of all the museum's patrons.....maybe barf on a Spad or something. BUT- one day, I shall attack and obilterate the nasty accumulation of clutter that besmirches the long-dormant work bench and return to the beloved world of 3D crap. Who knows what kind of ancient artifacts I might find buried in the mess.....could be a pharoah's shinbone, perhaps a runic memorial stone....maybe Voss's cowl....Jimmy Hoffa? Maybe a bottle of Pactra paint that still says "10 cents" on the cap. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance Message-ID: <20020719214854.30973.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> --- KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/18/02 10:05:56 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, snip > time. On Saturday September 21, a new exhibit opens > at the San Diego > Aerospace Museum entitled " The Aviation Art of > Robert Karr". Hokey name huh? snip .. Congratualtions! .. Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sorry you took offense. It was just a little bit of offense. :) I'll go back to 'chill' mode. E. Visit me at... www.sendmeapoliticianshead.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:52 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: peter smart's early birds Message-ID: >From: "iban" http://www.thestuarts.freeserve.co.uk/jernst.htm >ooo! oooh! scroll all the way down and click on the link to the next >page! >peter smart's early birds!!! wow! Very much wow. I wonder how they well they fly. E. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:50:33 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Subject: Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance Message-ID: <011a01c22f87$74dfa720$834d39cc@mesystem> Best wishes and many congratulations. It is about time you were recognized as a first class or better artist.. Best of Luck. Lee M, New Breaunfels, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: [WWI] a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance > In a message dated 7/18/02 10:05:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Brian.Nicklas@nasm.si.edu writes: > > << What's next on the workbench? > D. >> > > Well, shucks- at the moment mostly a lot of dust, junk, possibly some > long-dead critters. What's next? Mos' likely more of the same. > I'll tell y'all why.....this is something that's been cooking for a long > time. On Saturday September 21, a new exhibit opens at the San Diego > Aerospace Museum entitled " The Aviation Art of Robert Karr". Hokey name huh? > Anyway- this has been brewing for over a year, with constantly changing > dates, but it's finally cut in stone. Getting ready for this has absorbed > nearly all my "spare" time for months. Aside from my usual painting gigs ( > watch for a major bigass On-Topic book soon......both the front and back > covers are mine), I've been struggling to get as much new stuff done as I can > for the exhibit. There WILL be on-topic items in the show (and not just > involving a flamingo or two). Oh- and the night before the public opening, > there'll be a private cocktial party kind of thang, so I can get drunk and > disgrace myself in front of all the museum's patrons.....maybe barf on a Spad > or something. > BUT- one day, I shall attack and obilterate the nasty accumulation of clutter > that besmirches the long-dormant work bench and return to the beloved world > of 3D crap. > Who knows what kind of ancient artifacts I might find buried in the > mess.....could be a pharoah's shinbone, perhaps a runic memorial > stone....maybe Voss's cowl....Jimmy Hoffa? Maybe a bottle of Pactra paint > that still says "10 cents" on the cap. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:14:37 -0400 From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: <2FCAB25A.49C0A973.0C5348B3@aol.com> Y'know what, I don't have a problem with this. 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------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:52:40 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: OK, can we take a little step back here? I came to this group as an interested modeller who wants to learn and improve. I seem to have got caught up in all manner of historical discussions about the war. SO; I have decided it is time I got to learn a little about the subject. Can you recommend a book about the origins of WW1 that is readable by someone who is basically not a historian? Oh yes, I'm impatient too... So, 1) NOT long winded 2) affordable (paperback?) 3) in print What do you say, chaps? So there you are, I've admitted it in public; I know next to nothing about the things I've argued with so many folk over in the past year or so. Mea culpa... N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:06:51 -0500 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "WWIFAQ-Group" Subject: Albatros DII book Message-ID: <010801c22fe5$f09afaa0$2f32b9cc@ncsc> Received the Schiffer Albatros DII book yesterday via Squadron's sale. Appears to be well researched but am disappointed with the color profiles and larger artwork. No color top or bottom views of the German Albatros' and the research is around to fill in this information. Large drawing of DII OEF is broken up due to artwork being scanned (improperly?). Some new photos (to me) and lots of AH coverage. On a scale of 1-10 would rate it a 7. Good book at sale costs but really apparent that computerization of photos and drawings (look closely at the drawing on page 26) need to be done more carefully by the editors. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:20:41 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard >Can you recommend a book about the origins of WW1 that is >readable by someone who is basically not a historian? Oh yes, I'm >impatient too... >So, >1) NOT long winded >2) affordable (paperback?) >3) in print I still recommend Massie's "Dreadnought" but it's long (about 900 pages) not long-winded though. I obtained a second hand hardback copy in mediocre condition for $4.75 - I really don't care if the dust jacket's ripped or a couple of pages are dog-eared. If not, there's Laurence Lafore's "The Long Fuse" - (about 280 pages) my paperback copy cost $4.20. I haven't read Lafore's book but it has been well reviewed. Surely they have some second hand book shops in the Devonshire area? Else, you can get on the net and do mail order. Both the above volumes are fairly available. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:28:13 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Have y'all all seen this bit of OT? was; Great minds, Message-ID: Larry wrote: >You don't need to be subscribed to anything to visit the WWI website. I'm >not >following you. You better not. You won't like where I'm going to ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:33:56 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back Message-ID: Brian! >It flew far more hours in Hollywood than it did in Germany, so it was >repainted in a Hollywood scheme, >rather than repainted in a German scheme. So it was the Nieuport 28, but it is painted on a real scheme. And given the fact that there are only TWO pfalz D.XII extant in the world, and so many neat schemes well documented for them, it seems like a little unfair that the plane is painted in the colours of a movie. >The gallery is titled "Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air" so it >covers the "Legend" side of the story. The scheme hardly recall any memories of WW1! Perhaps of Hollywood movies, but then again, a black and white scheme must have been painted! ;-) D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:37:56 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: a busy season wasRe: Re: Tolerance Message-ID: ><< What's next on the workbench? > Well, shucks- at the moment mostly a lot of dust, junk, possibly some >long-dead critters. What's next? Mos' likely more of the same. Sure, who doesn't have that? Oh, I know: Matt. > I'll tell y'all why.....this is something that's been cooking for a long >time. On Saturday September 21, a new exhibit opens at the San Diego >Aerospace Museum entitled " The Aviation Art of Robert Karr". Hokey name >huh? Excellent new! I'll send my informants in Western USA to check that and congratulate the artist. Is there a poster or catalog for the exhibit? Sure I'd love to see one. D. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:40:17 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: And don't forget the Lyn Mc Donalds series on the WW1, Micheal. They sure are good books. D. >From: "Michael Kendix" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:21:51 -0400 (EDT) > > >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard > > >Can you recommend a book about the origins of WW1 that is > >readable by someone who is basically not a historian? Oh yes, I'm > >impatient too... > >So, > >1) NOT long winded > >2) affordable (paperback?) > >3) in print > >I still recommend Massie's "Dreadnought" but it's long (about 900 pages) >not >long-winded though. I obtained a second hand hardback copy in mediocre >condition for $4.75 - I really don't care if the dust jacket's ripped or a >couple of pages are dog-eared. If not, there's Laurence Lafore's "The Long >Fuse" - (about 280 pages) my paperback copy cost $4.20. I haven't read >Lafore's book but it has been well reviewed. > >Surely they have some second hand book shops in the Devonshire area? Else, >you can get on the net and do mail order. Both the above volumes are >fairly >available. > >Michael > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:45:01 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: I'm an idiot! (So, what's new?) Message-ID: What a mistake it was to put the wing sub-assembly under my wife's 100 watt desk lamp for 5 minutes. I know it's an off topic model but it is a modelling issue that may prevent others from doing something stupid. The Yak-7's rear tab of the wing sub-assembly needed bending upward to fit better (I thought) to the fuselage sub-assembly. So, I put the wing sub-assembly right under a 100 watt lamp for about 5 minutes. When I looked after 5 minutes, it resembled a Salvador Dali painting - all melted and misshapped. Back to the drawing board! By the way, I received Rosemont's vac kit of the Packard-Le Père LUSAC-II. Bunch of resin bits for the interior, struts, guns, propeller, tail parts and other bits. Very nice. Don't know if it's accurate because I don't have any references. Now, let's see, I have a good Yak-7 fuselage and a good set of RE5 wings - click, whir.... Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:46:12 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: <200207200846.12474.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Y'know what, I don't have a problem with this. I do however have a > particular fondness for movie aircraft and as currently displayed the Pfalz > is accurately marked. I would actually have a bigger problem if they tried > a wartime scheme and got it horribly wrong, but from a model perspective a > movie ship is as legitimate a subject as any other. Isn't presentation important here? I mean, if the sign says, "This Pfalz flew in the movie..yadayadayada in 192x but was built as a WWI fighter" THEN it's properly marked. If the sign says, "This is a WWI fighter, flown by the Germans" wouldn't it be innappropriate? in my limited view, museums are far less concerned about markings than they are about whether there are in the airframe itself. Certainly they're less concerned about color than modelers are. Not a defense, just an observation. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:55:34 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: >From: "Diego Fernetti" > >And don't forget the Lyn Mc Donalds series on the WW1, Micheal. They >sure >are good books. No doubt but I didn't know she wrote about the origins of WWI. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:18:02 EDT From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NASM Pfalz D.XII colours/ was: Back Message-ID: <15e.10ec5477.2a6abd0a@aol.com> In a message dated 20/07/02 13:50:40 GMT Daylight Time, larrym@sympatico.ca writes: << Isn't presentation important here? I mean, if the sign says, "This Pfalz flew in the movie..yadayadayada in 192x but was built as a WWI fighter" THEN it's properly marked. If the sign says, "This is a WWI fighter, flown by the Germans" wouldn't it be innappropriate? >> In a word, yes. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:21:14 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: I guess that "Nineteen Fourteen - The Days of Hope" and "1914: The First Year of Fighting" may well cover the subject. Also his compilation "1914-1918 Voices & Images of the Great War" may be intersting. D. >From: "Michael Kendix" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:56:32 -0400 (EDT) > > >From: "Diego Fernetti" > > > >And don't forget the Lyn Mc Donalds series on the WW1, Micheal. They > >sure > >are good books. > >No doubt but I didn't know she wrote about the origins of WWI. > >Michael > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:30:57 EDT From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm an idiot! (So, what's new?) Message-ID: <133.118a0d7f.2a6ac011@aol.com> In a message dated 20/07/02 13:46:30 GMT Daylight Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << When I looked after 5 minutes, it resembled a Salvador Dali painting - all melted and misshapped. >> There is a much simpler explaination Michael. As punishment for straying off topic "the guardian of the list" has replaced the Yak with a Merlin Salmson while your back was turned. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:49:15 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard >OK, can we take a little step back here? I came to this group as an >interested modeller who wants to learn and improve. I seem to have >got caught up in all manner of historical discussions about the war. >SO; I have decided it is time I got to learn a little about the >subject. Ah HA! Once again, the inevitable interest in history arises, like a pheonix, from the plastic shavings on the bench! Can you recommend a book about the origins of WW1 that is >readable by someone who is basically not a historian? Oh yes, I'm >impatient too... Ok. Sounds like you may do better with a medium other than the printed page. Try the video store. A few years back, there was a series showing on PBS here in the US that was called "The Great War and The Shaping of the 20th Century", or something to that effect. I don't know if it was a PBS or BBC production, but it was a very good series. Not only did it cover the origins and events of the war, but also showed how these events affected/influenced the rest of the 20th century(hence the title). Hth... E. Visit me at... www.sendmeabananna.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4538 **********************