WWI Digest 4534 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site by Larry Marshall 2) RE: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site by Larry Marshall 3) Re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site by Larry Marshall 4) re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 5) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 6) re: Eduard 1/72nd Eindecker/part2 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 7) re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site by Larry Marshall 8) Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Brent Theobald" 9) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Brent Theobald" 10) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 11) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Michael Kendix" 12) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by Dave Fleming 13) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 14) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 15) re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 by "Michael Kendix" 16) Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results for 7-17-02 by "Thomas Solinski" 17) Re: Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results for 7-17-02 by "Thomas Solinski" 18) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Bob Pearson" 19) Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results DA WINNERS! by "Thomas Solinski" 20) Re: LVG CVI etc by "ernest thomas" 21) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "ernest thomas" 22) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 23) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "Michael Kendix" 24) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by Steven Perry 25) Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit by "David's Mail" 26) Anatra DS Anasal by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 27) Re: Anatra DS Anasal by Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:45:26 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site Message-ID: <200207171345.26556.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Also, we've uploaded something just for Matt: a 1/72 Niueport 17 by Luis > Picalua. It's a heavily modified ESCI kit. > > http://www.rollmodels.net/ngallery/airplanes/nieuport17.htm Nicely done! This kit is no longer available, right? It looks like a pretty good N17 rendition. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:49:28 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site Message-ID: <200207171349.28291.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Larry's images on his pages can't be seen, nor the links associated. This is what makes my model look so good :-) > Maybe the route is wrong. Diego, there are "browser incompatibilities" with the Rolls site. I can see those photos with some browsers but not others. I suspect that's the problem you're having too :-( Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:25:01 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site Message-ID: <200207171425.01347.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Larry Marshall has sent in his Roden Albatros D.II Oeffag. > > http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/albatrosd2/albatrosd2.php\ Diego....remove the '\' on the end of this address and I think you might get better results. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:46:01 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site Message-ID: <00b601c22dc2$331dede0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hehehehe! Both great models, in perfect and only scale, and from my favourite theater of war - Austro Italian (OK, Oeffag could be from eastern front, but it's still Austrian!). Larry did a great thing, but I'm curious why he chose the most boring scheme of all possible (even no Anny or Lilly) I'm very happy! Cheers! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:52:23 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: <010601c22dc3$16d00780$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > FWIW, I think the Part p/e for the ICM Fokker fits reasonably well into the > Eduard kit. > Brent Sure, but it's much more expensive! In Poland non-profi pack costs 25 zloty, profi-pack 31 zloty, and Part P/E about 15-20 (I don't know precisely). (US Dollar is now little more than 4 zloty). I don't have profi-pack, but I've examined it very closely and decided to buy non-profi, mostly because Boelcke's decals. IMHO this p/e (Eduard) isn't very important and usefull, except engine valve push rods and front engine mount, which non-profi pack doesn't include even in plastic. Part set is extremely good, but for me contains a little too much elements. You can see it here: http://www.part.pl/s72/s72129.jpg OK, now more detailed description of the kit (non-profi E.IV) It is very good model, better than Rodens, but IMHO it isn't as perfect as Eduard's Albatros and Dr.I, especially in wing trailing edges, which aren't as thin as I expected (but they are very good, about Roden's quality). There is no real difference in quality of product between profi and non-profi, except that P/E. Decals are different, but in similary interesting and both sets includes various schemes, non-profi 3 (Boelcke, Fokker Sta. 3dr Army with black and white wheel hub, and 189/16 from Fokker factory), profi pack probably 4 (Witgens with black and white crossed stripes on the fuselage, Althaus, von Essen and one in just CDL factory scheme), both sets includes various crosses (earlier thin and later iron crosses both on white square and without), so offer here is similar in quality (completely different situation was with Albatros D.V, profipack had many various schemes and lozenge set, and non-profi one or two less interesting schemes and no lozenge). Both profi and non-profi includes express masks (pre-cut masking tape). PE IMHO isn't necessary, except mentioned engine elements, which could be useful, but are still very easy to make from wire or stretched sprue. So if you want Boelcke's scheme, don't hesitate and buy non-profi, which isn't (again IMHO) worse than profi. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:53:51 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd Eindecker/part2 Message-ID: <011001c22dc3$4b63cea0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> (part 2, as it was too big for our limit, my first time!) In addition, I've noticed two small inaccuracies in Boelcke's model: shape of the metal panels on the fuselage sides (in this plane it should be straight, like in E.III, not like in other E.IVs) http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/Central-Powers/German/Planes/Fokker/E4/Fok-E4 -Boelcke_03.jpg and serial, which on left side is overpainted white and only "Fok. E.IV 16" is visible (which is correct), but on the right side "Fok.E.IV" should be overpainted, and whole number should be visible. In a kit there is decal "Fok.E.IV 16" for both sides, which is not correct. Also Boelcke's plane should be probably armed with one gun only: http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/Central-Powers/German/Planes/Fokker/E4/Fok-E4 -Boelcke_04.jpg BTW, I'm just finishing ICM E.IV, in 3 colour camouflage: http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/Central-Powers/German/Planes/Fokker/D3/Fok-D3 -Kesta4.jpg and HR resin D.II in interesting "transitional" scheme with camouflaged wings and CDL fuselage: http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/Central-Powers/German/Planes/Fokker/D2/Fok-D2 -540-16_02.jpg Grzes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:52:44 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: OT Content on the Roll Models' Review Site Message-ID: <200207171452.44498.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Larry did a great thing, but I'm curious why he chose the most boring > scheme of all possible (even no Anny or Lilly) As I said, 'because I liked it.' Also, it's the one Bill Arnold did and because of his productiivity, he's my hero (grin). Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:26:17 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: Howdy, Our secretary posts a "Today in History" bulletin every day. I check it to look for OT content. I had a hit today, and an odd one. I have never heard of this. "1917: With the country at war with Germany the British Royal family changed its name from Saxe-Coburg Gotha to Windsor." I know next to nothing (just to the left actually) about the British Royal history. I hope this didn't originate from The Onion or something. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:31:53 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: Howdy! I said: "FWIW, I think the Part p/e for the ICM Fokker fits reasonably well into the Eduard kit." Grzegorz replies: "Sure, but it's much more expensive!" To which I respond: "You forget, I have tons of unbuilt kits around. Since I already own the Part p/e set (like many others here I am sure) and I haven't used it yet it doesn't cost anything to apply it to the Eduard kit. I can't really justify putting it in the ICM kit now. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:00:31 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: It's true, but fancy naming your family after a soup! She could have been Elizabeth Mulligatawny....... Incidentally, if anyone is interested, I have a mezzotint print of the whole lot of 'em in 1897, Saxe_Coburg Gothas and all. N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:22:11 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: Gzregorz: I decided to go with the E.IV Profipak and the E.III non-Profipak because there was no E.III Profipak available to me. By the way, what has the US$'s performance in the international exchange got to do with the price of Eduard kits in Polish currency? Do EDuard price their stuff in US$ even to non-US purchasers? Michael >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > > FWIW, I think the Part p/e for the ICM Fokker fits reasonably well into >the > > Eduard kit. > > Brent > >Sure, but it's much more expensive! In Poland non-profi pack costs 25 >zloty, >profi-pack 31 zloty, and Part P/E about 15-20 (I don't know precisely). (US >Dollar is now little more than 4 zloty). >I don't have profi-pack, but I've examined it very closely and decided to >buy non-profi, mostly because Boelcke's decals. IMHO this p/e (Eduard) >isn't >very important and usefull, except engine valve push rods and front engine >mount, which non-profi pack doesn't include even in plastic. >Part set is extremely good, but for me contains a little too much elements. >You can see it here: >http://www.part.pl/s72/s72129.jpg > >OK, now more detailed description of the kit (non-profi E.IV) >It is very good model, better than Rodens, but IMHO it isn't as perfect as >Eduard's Albatros and Dr.I, especially in wing trailing edges, which aren't >as thin as I expected (but they are very good, about Roden's quality). >There >is no real difference in quality of product between profi and non-profi, >except that P/E. Decals are different, but in similary interesting and both >sets includes various schemes, non-profi 3 (Boelcke, Fokker Sta. 3dr Army >with black and white wheel hub, and 189/16 from Fokker factory), profi pack >probably 4 (Witgens with black and white crossed stripes on the fuselage, >Althaus, von Essen and one in just CDL factory scheme), both sets includes >various crosses (earlier thin and later iron crosses both on white square >and without), so offer here is similar in quality (completely different >situation was with Albatros D.V, profipack had many various schemes and >lozenge set, and non-profi one or two less interesting schemes and no >lozenge). Both profi and non-profi includes express masks (pre-cut masking >tape). >PE IMHO isn't necessary, except mentioned engine elements, which could be >useful, but are still very easy to make from wire or stretched sprue. >So if you want Boelcke's scheme, don't hesitate and buy non-profi, which >isn't (again IMHO) worse than profi. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:03:00 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: <1026939780.3d35db84e69e2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Brent Theobald : > > "1917: With the country at war with Germany the British Royal family > changed > its name from Saxe-Coburg Gotha to Windsor." > > I know next to nothing (just to the left actually) about the British > Royal > history. I hope this didn't originate from The Onion or something. It's true, derived from when the Hannoverians (OT link) took the throne, and linked with Prince Albert. The Kaiser and the King were 2nd Cousins IIRC. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:03:53 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: <014001c22ddd$d70beae0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > I decided to go with the E.IV Profipak and the E.III non-Profipak because > there was no E.III Profipak available to me. Your choice. BTW, I think E.III profi-pack isn't already available. Order of appearance was: E.IV non-profi, E.IV profi, E.III non-profi and E.III profi is the last one. Write me about p/e from E.IV please. Was it you who wanted to buy p/e from Albatros D.V profi pack? > By the way, what has the US$'s performance in the international exchange got > to do with the price of Eduard kits in Polish currency? Do EDuard price > their stuff in US$ even to non-US purchasers? Nothing, I think, I gave prices in zlotys and finally I decided to make you easier to count how much it is in Dollars. Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:05:28 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: <014a01c22dde$0ff1f520$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Brent wrote: > "You forget, I have tons of unbuilt kits around. Since I already own the > Part p/e set (like many others here I am sure) and I haven't used it yet it > doesn't cost anything to apply it to the Eduard kit. I can't really justify > putting it in the ICM kit now. Sure!!!! IMHO Part set is better than Eduard, except the seatbelts. G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:15:37 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Eduard 1/72nd /part1 Message-ID: >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > >Your choice. BTW, I think E.III profi-pack isn't already available. >Order >of appearance was: E.IV non-profi, E.IV profi, E.III non-profi >and E.III >profi is the last one. Write me about p/e from E.IV please. >Was it you who >wanted to buy p/e from Albatros D.V profi pack? Ok, when i get it I'll let you know - it'll be a month though. Yes it was I who wanted the D.V p/e and used it in the build. Maybe the Part E.IV set is better but it was designed for the ICM kit and I have enough problems using p/e without the extra problem of it not being for the same kit. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:33:27 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results for 7-17-02 Message-ID: <00cd01c22de1$f865ae20$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> > > Bids so far as of 2200 today are: > > \ > > > > > Manufacturer, Aircraft, Scale, Kit mfg, Kit No. Comments > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-II CONV. KIT, 1/48, PASSCHENDAELE, , RUINED Decals $5.00 > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05102, $5.00 > > > > > ALBATROS, D-V, 1/48, AURORA, 752,NO BID > > > > > ALBATROS, D-V, 1/48, AURORA, 752 NO BID , > > > > > ANSALDO, SVA5, 1/48, SMER, 106, $4.00 > > > > > AVRO, 504, 1/48, SMER, 032, DECALS The two 5-0-4 come as one kit $4.00 > > > AVRO, 504, 1/48, SMER, 032, NO DECALS in same box > > > > > DeHAVILLAND, DH 2, 1/48, RENWAL, 281, RFC AEROSKIN $20.00 > > > > > FOKKER, D-VII, 1/48, AURORA, 753, NO BID > > > > > FOKKER, E-III EINDECKER, 1/72, EDUARD, 7004, STRIP DOWN $10.75 > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 , 1/48, RENWAL, 280, USA AEROSKIN $20.00 > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $10.00 > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $5.00 > > > > > PFALZ, D-III, 1/48, EDUARD, 8005, $15.00 > > > > > ROYAL A/C FAC, SE-5A, 1/48, LINDBERGH, 72581, $5.00 > > > > > SOPWITH, CAMEL, 1/48, MONOGRAM, 5204, $4.00 > > > > > SOPWITH, TRIPLANE, 1/48, EDUARD, 8014, $7.00 > > > > > SPAD, XIII, 1/48, TESTORS, 617, NO BID > > > > > SPAD, XIII, 1/48, TESTORS, 617, NO BID > > > > > SPAD, XIII C-1, 1/48, GLENCO, 5118, $5.00 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:42:58 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results for 7-17-02 Message-ID: <014101c22de3$4c9d5280$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> DUUUGH, thei divorce isn't stressing me too much. By my own rules these are the WINING bids. I'll post the names after dinner C-U later MrT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Solinski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: [WWI] Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results for 7-17-02 > > > > Bids so far as of 2200 today are: > > > \ > > > > > > > Manufacturer, Aircraft, Scale, Kit mfg, Kit No. Comments > > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-II CONV. KIT, 1/48, PASSCHENDAELE, , RUINED Decals $5.00 > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05102, $5.00 > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-V, 1/48, AURORA, 752,NO BID > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-V, 1/48, AURORA, 752 NO BID , > > > > > > > ANSALDO, SVA5, 1/48, SMER, 106, $4.00 > > > > > > > AVRO, 504, 1/48, SMER, 032, DECALS The two 5-0-4 come as one kit > $4.00 > > > > AVRO, 504, 1/48, SMER, 032, NO DECALS in same box > > > > > > > DeHAVILLAND, DH 2, 1/48, RENWAL, 281, RFC AEROSKIN $20.00 > > > > > > > FOKKER, D-VII, 1/48, AURORA, 753, NO BID > > > > > > > FOKKER, E-III EINDECKER, 1/72, EDUARD, 7004, STRIP DOWN $10.75 > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 , 1/48, RENWAL, 280, USA AEROSKIN $20.00 > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $10.00 > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $5.00 > > > > > > > PFALZ, D-III, 1/48, EDUARD, 8005, $15.00 > > > > > > > ROYAL A/C FAC, SE-5A, 1/48, LINDBERGH, 72581, $5.00 > > > > > > > SOPWITH, CAMEL, 1/48, MONOGRAM, 5204, $4.00 > > > > > > > SOPWITH, TRIPLANE, 1/48, EDUARD, 8014, $7.00 > > > > > > > SPAD, XIII, 1/48, TESTORS, 617, NO BID > > > > > > > SPAD, XIII, 1/48, TESTORS, 617, NO BID > > > > > > > SPAD, XIII C-1, 1/48, GLENCO, 5118, $5.00 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:11:48 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: <102694766201@smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com> It also resulted in the first sea lord of the Admiralty being forced to resign due to his Germanic name of Battenburg, he then renamed his family Mountbatten. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:40:42 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Fw: Fw: MrT's silent auction #2 results DA WINNERS! Message-ID: <004f01c22deb$5d68a9e0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> OK this time I got it right And the winners for this auctio are : Thanks to all for bidding. Please addup you totals, add just $5.00 for mailing and send me a list of what you won and a good mailing address. I'll take your checks mo's or paypal to tskio4@cox.net Thanks again guys and gals Mr.T > > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-II CONV. KIT, 1/48, PASSCHENDAELE, , RUINED Decals $5.00 Tom Plesha > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05101, $5.00 Tom Plesha > > > > > > > ALBATROS, D-III, 1/48, GLENCO, 05102, $5.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > ANSALDO, SVA5, 1/48, SMER, 106, $4.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > >Two AVRO, 504, 1/48, SMER, 032, DECALS $4.00The two 5-0-4 come as one kitDale Sebring > > > > > > > DeHAVILLAND, DH 2, 1/48, RENWAL, 281, RFC AEROSKIN $20.00 Brad Gossen > > > > > > > FOKKER, E-III EINDECKER, 1/72, EDUARD, 7004, STRIP DOWN $10.75 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 , 1/48, RENWAL, 280, USA AEROSKIN $20.00 Brad Gossen > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $10.00 Jamie Gagnon > > > > > > > NIEUPORT, 28 C1, 1/48, GLENCO, 05114, $5.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > PFALZ, D-III, 1/48, EDUARD, 8005, $15.00 Mark Kirkbride > > > > > > > ROYAL A/C FAC, SE-5A, 1/48, LINDBERGH, 72581, $5.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > SOPWITH, CAMEL, 1/48, MONOGRAM, 5204, $4.00 Dale Sebring > > > > > > > SOPWITH, TRIPLANE, 1/48, EDUARD, 8014, $7.00 EPMyles@aol.com > > > > > > > SPAD, XIII C-1, 1/48, GLENCO, 5118, $5.00 Dale Sebring ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:58:11 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: LVG CVI etc Message-ID: >From: Steve Cox >I expect to go to Shuttleworth next Wednesday, any requests for particular >pictures? I wouldn't mind pictures of any cute girls you happen to meet there. :) E. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:20:31 -0500 From: "ernest thomas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: >From: Dave Fleming > >It's true, derived from when the Hannoverians (OT link) took the throne, >and >linked with Prince Albert. The Kaiser and the King were 2nd Cousins IIRC. And Nicholas II(of Russia) was part of that brood as well. In retrospect, WWI was sort of a big, bloody, family feud. E. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:56:11 +0200 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: <000f01c22df5$e9efa7b0$b763fea9@kristjar> > >From: Dave Fleming > > > >It's true, derived from when the Hannoverians (OT link) took the throne, > >and > >linked with Prince Albert. The Kaiser and the King were 2nd Cousins IIRC. > > And Nicholas II(of Russia) was part of that brood as well. > In retrospect, WWI was sort of a big, bloody, family feud. > E. Family Feud... Sounds about right... A German historian once summed up the battle of the Somme as 1.1 millon men getting shot over a matter of 50square kilometers of rocky hillside. KR. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:05:45 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: >And Nicholas II(of Russia) was part of that brood as well. >In retrospect, WWI was sort of a big, bloody, family feud. >E. All this is interesting and if you want to fid out more, I recommend Massie's(?) "Dreadnought" - an excellent book. Don't be put off by the book's 800 or so pages - it is really easy to read. Also, just finished Lynne MacDonald's "1915" - highly recommended. Michael NR "The Ottoman Centuries" by Lord Kinross _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:30:14 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: <3D361A26.2010802@tampabay.rr.com> The first chapter of Guns of August gives a good rundown on the interrelationships of the crowned heads. Very much a family feud. sp Michael Kendix wrote: >>And Nicholas II(of Russia) was part of that brood as well. >>In retrospect, WWI was sort of a big, bloody, family feud. >>E. >> > > All this is interesting and if you want to fid out more, I recommend > Massie's(?) "Dreadnought" - an excellent book. Don't be put off by the > book's 800 or so pages - it is really easy to read. Also, just finished > Lynne MacDonald's "1915" - highly recommended. > > Michael > > NR "The Ottoman Centuries" by Lord Kinross > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:39:36 -0500 From: "David's Mail" To: Subject: Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit Message-ID: <001101c22e15$1fe1d540$0100a8c0@Jeanne> Personally, I am not fond of Tuchmann's book, though factually correct on the timetables, she is, in my take, very subjective in her language. I think that she misses a couple of major points leading to the war: 1. The collision of the major pre war economies (mentioned in Dreadnought) and 2. the Franco-Russian alliance which puts Germany on the defensive and on a war footing well before the assasination. (Personal note, I quickly became weary of the Madeline Albright stating that WWI started inthe Balkins, as her justification of setting up food lines and bombing tents. There was an assasination of the Archduke, but the shooting war began the German attack on the Western Front.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Today in History - Interesting Tidbit > The first chapter of Guns of August gives a good rundown on the > interrelationships of the crowned heads. Very much a family feud. > sp > > Michael Kendix wrote: > > >>And Nicholas II(of Russia) was part of that brood as well. > >>In retrospect, WWI was sort of a big, bloody, family feud. > >>E. > >> > > > > All this is interesting and if you want to fid out more, I recommend > > Massie's(?) "Dreadnought" - an excellent book. Don't be put off by the > > book's 800 or so pages - it is really easy to read. Also, just finished > > Lynne MacDonald's "1915" - highly recommended. > > > > Michael > > > > NR "The Ottoman Centuries" by Lord Kinross > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:59:04 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Anatra DS Anasal Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F08BA@SERVER1> I am looking for references about the DS Anasal. My modest files do not offer anything more than a few generic notes and pictures. In particular, I need reliable scale drawings, as I am thinking of reworking the old Frog / Red Star kit. Any suggestions ? Thanks very much in advance to all those who will take the time and trouble to answer. All the very best, Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:10:09 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Anatra DS Anasal Message-ID: I have a russian magazine with good drawings and photos. Unfortunately text is russian only. Drawings from this magazine are also dwnloadable from this russian site http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/anatra.html In Natrional Technical Museum in Prague, few minutes near to me, is Anatra exhibited. I can took photos to you. LVi FYI: I saw Anatra Anasal in true scale (1/48) from Omega. It's a very good kit. Will be available between few days, I printed decals for this kit. Odpovìzte prosím - wwi@wwi-models.org Odesláno kým: wwi@wwi-models.org Od: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it@wwi-models.org 18.07.2002 09:02:51 Komu: Multiple recipients of list Kopie: Pøedmìt: [WWI] Anatra DS Anasal I am looking for references about the DS Anasal. My modest files do not offer anything more than a few generic notes and pictures. In particular, I need reliable scale drawings, as I am thinking of reworking the old Frog / Red Star kit. Any suggestions ? Thanks very much in advance to all those who will take the time and trouble to answer. All the very best, Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4534 **********************