WWI Digest 4527 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by Tom Gourdie 2) Re: Today in history - The Italian front by Karen Rychlewski 3) Re: Today in history - The Italian front by Crawford Neil 4) RE: Progress by "Diego Fernetti" 5) list influence by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Re: BE2c by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 7) RE: Progress by tbittners@sprintmail.com 8) RE: Matt & Progress by "Brian Nicklas" 9) RE: Matt & Progress by tbittners@sprintmail.com 10) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by Steven Perry 11) Neat Nie.11 by tbittners@sprintmail.com 12) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 13) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by "Harris, Mack" 14) More holiday - unsubscribing by Crawford Neil 15) Re: Today in history - The Italian front by "iban" 16) Re: BE2c by Larry Marshall 17) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by Steven Perry 18) re: Albatros book and others by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 19) re: US visitor: success! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Re: Flik 60J bands again by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Today in history - The Italian front by "Lance Krieg" 22) Bored at Work? by "Brian Nicklas" 23) RE: BE2c by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 24) RE: Bored at Work? by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Holiday - unsubscribing by David Fleming 26) Re: Bored at Work? by David Fleming 27) re: US visitor: success! by "Diego Fernetti" 28) Re: Today in history - The Italian front by "Diego Fernetti" 29) RE: Neat Nie.11 by "Diego Fernetti" 30) RE: Back from holidays by Eric GALLAUD 31) Re: Bored at Work? by "Dave Burke" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:20:25 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: <02Jul12.142234bst.118111@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> I'll get away eventually - my work here fortunately doesn't involve me directly in Clearing. Now if you want to participate in some real dogfighting you want to try Clearing! Anyway, Clearing's in August so I'll be back by then! Bye. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] Sent: 12 July 2002 14:05 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Holiday - unsubscribing >From: Tom Gourdie > >About to take two weeks' summer leave so I'm unsubscribing. No doubt >I >will return to the usual good-natured dogfighting! Going on holiday?! Aren't you supposed to be sorting out all those university clearing places and so on? How'd you expect students to manage? No wonder I wound up Scilly Isles Tech in the yachting school. Have a nice holiday. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. 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If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:29:02 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <3D2ED99D.9A5B106E@earthlink.net> a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it wrote: > 12th July 1916: Cesare Battisti and Fabio Filzi, two Italian irredentists > enlisted in the Royal Italian Army, are hanged as traitors by > Austria-Hungary. ...possibly because their habit of painting their front teeth red, white, and green gave them away :-(#) Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:33:18 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: Yes, bet it was that!, ROTFLMAO /Neil C. > ..possibly because their habit of painting their front teeth > red, white, > and green gave them away :-(#) > > Karen > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:55:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Progress Message-ID: <022501c229ab$d03cff00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > Boredom at work (not because I don't have work to do, but because I don't want to do any of it :-)). Must be a global disease. Same here in the deep south. But the work gets done... glacially! > Eduard Dr.I: MisterKit turquoise applied and after three days, I think I can mask and spray the CDL. What kind of mask are you going to use? Electrical tape, Tamiya tape or "liquid masking compound"? > Amodel SPAD SA.2: No progress past removing the *third* iteration of a "new" turtledeck. Photocopied the plans again in hopes I can make a fourth one. Patience will be rewarded. Are you gluing it with CA glue or still trying double adhesive tape. > Flashback single-seat French (what else?) Strutter: kingpost area cut and sanded, it sits and waits for me to add the "hydraulics" on the inside and the area under the horizontal tail. Must be fun! ;-) Is the tail glued on? Must be hard to do if so My only modelling since tuesday was filling the holes on the fuselage sides of a Revell Camel, since the rear cabane struts are placed low on the sides of the cockpit and must be right on the edge of the curved area. nr: High Adventure. Neat! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:00:27 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: list influence Message-ID: <022f01c229ac$7a939040$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I even tried to talk true blue. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Holiday - unsubscribing > return to the usual good-natured dogfighting! > > > > All the best to y'all (God, even beginning to write like a colonial!) > > > > Tom > > Yes, I've noticed that, I find myself using terms that would have > shocked me, only a couple of years ago. Do you think we're doing > the same thing to them;-) > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:59:57 -0700 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2c Message-ID: <3D2E7E6D.12205.231BCB@localhost> On 12 Jul 2002 at 8:12, Larry Marshall wrote: >> The BE2 series of aircraft always get so maligned. Whereas >Not by me. Hopefully you read my clarification. True your post came in after the I had sent mine >> the people who decided to continue to deploy this aircraft >> for anything other than training after 1915 are really to >> blame. >Again, not according to at least one pilot who spent most of the war > flying over the trenches of France. Lots of hours in BE2s Not true. 1914 when the BE2c was introduced it was just what was ordered and required. This aircraft fit the bill until mid 1915 when the EIII was introduced and created a paradigm shift in tactics. At that point most current observation aircraft were rendered obsolete. The BE2 series of aircraft were 3 years old by that time to. Which in 1914-1918 terms a twice as long as most aircraft stayed current. You can argue that the shift was not unexpected but that was hardly the fault of the equipment in use, more the farsightedness of the people in charge. Remember the BE2c was the first British aircraft to operate in France, for observation it was thought and provably true at the time that a rock stable aircraft was excellent for general and observation work. Which is what the Be2c was designed for. The fact that it was a successful light bomber and a passable reconnaissance aircraft was a bonus. As I said all aircraft that were designed prewar or in 1914 pretty much became obsolete in late 1915. You would hardly expect a Taube to put up much fight against say a DH2 or Morane. The same is true of the BE2c. Read some pilots comments on the Be2c of 1914 written in 1914 if you don't believe me. Say Major W. Sefton-Branker prewar (may 1914) Or and I'll quote "By late the late summer of 1915 the RFC had not yet progressed much beyond the two seater general purpose aeroplane, the most effective of which was still the BE2c" Lt W Sholto Douglas The shame of the BE2 series was that they were used past there time, this has tarnished what was for its time a great aircraft. As to the pilot in the back and observer in the front. Well look at just about everyones two seaters they were all set up this way at first. Early Albatros B types of 1915, Nieuport 10's the list goes on..... Just my ten cents or more lol Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Progress Message-ID: <20020712140517.AEBBD4699B@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:56:14 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: >Must be a global disease. Same here in the deep south. But the work gets >done... glacially! :-) >What kind of mask are you going to use? Electrical tape, Tamiya tape or >"liquid masking compound"? "Standard" masking tape with the tack removed via body oils. >Patience will be rewarded. Are you gluing it with CA glue or still trying >double adhesive tape. This time will be epoxy, with CA at the edges. I did this with the underside and have had no problems at all with it. I've given up on the double-sided tape idea. >Must be fun! ;-) Is the tail glued on? Must be hard to do if so Oh, no! Tail is *not* glued on at all. I have to finish the kingpost and the "upsweep" of the area under the horizontal tail before I put the actual piece on. >My only modelling since tuesday was filling the holes on the fuselage sides >of a Revell Camel, since the rear cabane struts are placed low on the sides >of the cockpit and must be right on the edge of the curved area. One thing to keep in mind: when progress is in the positive, meaning progress has been made, no matter how small, it's still progress, and better than letting the model sit and doing nothing on it. It may take awhile to finish, but even with small progress it will be finished. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:25:42 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Matt & Progress Message-ID: >>>What kind of mask are you going to use? Electrical tape, Tamiya tape or >>>"liquid masking compound"? >"Standard" masking tape with the tack removed via body oils. That's how you can spot Matt since there are no photos. He walked into the DC IPMS meeting with a six inch long, one inch wide strip of masking tape across his forehead. And he wondered why they strip-searched him at the airport... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Matt & Progress Message-ID: <20020712143210.AC1DC46946@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:26:35 -0400 (EDT), Brian Nicklas wrote: >That's how you can spot Matt since there are no photos. >He walked into the DC IPMS meeting with a six inch long, one inch wide >strip of masking tape across his forehead. And he wondered why they >strip-searched him at the airport... Another thing I didn't notice, too. It appeared that my wife wrote a large 'L' on that piece of tape. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:41:45 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: <3D2EEAA9.3050701@tampabay.rr.com> > > All the best to y'all (God, even beginning to write like a colonial!) > > Tom Someone ship that boy some grits :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Neat Nie.11 Message-ID: <20020712145038.D674E46946@eclipse.qis.net> There's a neat RCW Nie.11 on the airforce.ru modelism site: http://www.airforce.ru/modelism/gallery/gitin/nieuport/index.htm Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:56:43 -0700 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: <3D2E8BBB.8551.5717BD@localhost> On 12 Jul 2002 at 10:42, Steven Perry wrote: > > > > All the best to y'all (God, even beginning to write like a colonial!) > > > > Tom > > Someone ship that boy some grits :-) > sp Why does Tom need grit, I don't think Tom keeps budgies that require grit on the bottom of there cage?? Plus I am sure he has lots in his back yard! ;) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:05:16 -0500 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: (snip) Steve says most eleoquently: > Someone ship that boy some grits :-) > sp Then Ray responds without any understanding at all of the finer things of life: Why does Tom need grit, I don't think Tom keeps budgies that require grit on the bottom of there cage?? Plus I am sure he has lots in his back yard! ;) Ray Well, then, Ray, cook them little budgies with some greens and fat back and then add a little corn bread and butter milk. I'll bet the doughboys knew corn pone and buttermilk and the odd cooked budgie, too:) Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:20:34 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: More holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: Off too, I'll be keeping tabs on you via the digests. See you in August. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:45:59 -0400 From: "iban" To: Subject: Re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <019801c229bb$392a6ca0$0bd9fea9@eis> ok, alberto, i have to ask--what on earth is an "irredentist"? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: [WWI] Today in history - The Italian front > 12th July 1916: Cesare Battisti and Fabio Filzi, two Italian irredentists > enlisted in the Royal Italian Army, are hanged as traitors by > Austria-Hungary. > > Alberto Casirati > > > > --- > [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai > software antivirus e antispamming di > Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:46:55 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE2c Message-ID: <200207121146.55321.larrym@sympatico.ca> > >Again, not according to at least one pilot who spent most of the war > > flying over the trenches of France. Lots of hours in BE2s > > Not true. 1914 when the BE2c was introduced it was just what was I'm not sure I know how or if I should respond to this. I was quoting a guy who spent over 300h in the type. he flew them into 1916 before spending time in a testing facility before being selected for the 56th Squadron. He earned the Military Cross in a BE2c. If he thinks it was a viable machine and the match of an E-III, who am I to argue? The army was virtually tied to observation aircraft for so much of their information that observation flights weren't a luxury, they were necessity. Tactical shift or not, BE2c/es were doing it. > ordered and required. This aircraft fit the bill until mid 1915 when > the EIII was introduced and created a paradigm shift in tactics. At > that point most current observation aircraft were rendered obsolete. Lewis speaks explicitly about this. Talks about how afraid they were of the E.III until they captured one. Suddenly their 2cs didn't seem so vulnerable. > Read some pilots comments on the Be2c of 1914 written in 1914 if you > don't believe me. Say Major W. Sefton-Branker prewar (may 1914) Uhm...that's my ONLY source of information on this subject, and I quoted it. Perhaps you don't know Cecil Lewis. > Or and I'll quote "By late the late summer of 1915 the RFC had not > yet progressed much beyond the two seater general purpose aeroplane, > the most effective of which was still the BE2c" Lt W Sholto Douglas This argues, pretty explicity, that the BE2c was the "most effective" airplane the RFC had in 1915. I think Lewis would agree and both of these guys seem to disagree with your claim that they were "obsolete." The very definition of that word requires that there be something better. The Enemy had gun synchronization, not better airframes. > The shame of the BE2 series was that they were used past there time, Now this is probably true. > this has tarnished what was for its time a great aircraft. As to the So far, it seems you're the only one arguing the negative side of its 'reputation.' > pilot in the back and observer in the front. Well look at just about > everyones two seaters they were all set up this way at first. Ray, I'm not sure who you're debating with here. Nobody's said anything negative about observer in the front, exept that this is how it was and that in the BE2 it made aerial photography more difficult. Even the "difficult" criticism is from someone who actually flew them. Those are both simple truisms. Sometimes I wonder if Brit afficionados aren't just a wee bit defensive over their aircraft and services :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:53:08 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: <3D2EFB64.9070202@tampabay.rr.com> Harris, Mack wrote: > (snip) > Steve says most eleoquently: > > >>Someone ship that boy some grits :-) >>sp >> > > Then Ray responds without any understanding at all of the finer things of > life: > > Why does Tom need grit, I don't think Tom keeps budgies that require > grit on the bottom of there cage?? > > Plus I am sure he has lots in his back yard! ;) > > Ray > > Well, then, Ray, cook them little budgies with some greens and fat back and > then add a little corn bread and butter milk. > I'll bet the doughboys knew corn pone and buttermilk and the odd cooked > budgie, too:) > Mack Regional food differences are always great fun, but we better get this back OT before the Scotts start slinging Hagis around ;-) There was a lot of culture skock foodwise amongst the American troops from different reigons of the US. Many had been raised on what they grew and their Mothers had prepared. My Grandfather's Squadron, (649th Aero Supply Squadron, I ain't abreviating it:-), was made up of mostly rural kids from the South. When stationed at Camp Morrison in Va awaiting embarkation to France, they raided a nearby commercial oyster bed. Nobody had ever tasted oysters before. As they were coming back with the illgotten loot, all 70 of them, they were surrounded by MPs and marched under bayonnet to the stockade. Nothing came of it because the owner passed away before pressing charges. (the Sqdn history says they were never able to determine if this was related to the oyster incident). No further attempts to "live off the land" were recorded in France, though Grandad always said he enjoyed trying the French food while there. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:51:50 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Albatros book and others Message-ID: <011d01c229bc$0b812a40$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > I got the big FMP book, Army aircraft of the Austro-Hungarian empire > for 400:- (about $43) I think that's fair enough? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! You lucky Brit-Swed! 43$....... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! But, guy, you like SPADs, and Austrians rather killed SPADs (Italian) than used them? What you'll do with this book? ;-) Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:54:24 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: US visitor: success! Message-ID: <013901c229bc$655ed760$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > our visitor from the steppes (mountains/plains/valleys??) of Slovakia, Mountains. Tatra range of the Carpathians. G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:10:44 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Flik 60J bands again Message-ID: <004401c229be$b0ec5ac0$93ac72d4@FRITZweb> On Monday, Neil! I'll meet my mother-in-law on sunday on her 74th birthday. I'll ask her. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Flik 60J bands again > Good one Hans! ermmmm excuse me, but do you think you could > tell me the difference between a DV and a DVa. > /Neil C (not your MIL) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hans Trauner [mailto:hans.trauner@nefkom.net] > > Sent: den 11 juli 2002 17:54 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Re: Flik 60J bands again > > > > > > I am innocent! I swear by my mother-in-law's capability to distinguish > > between a Albatros D V and a Albatros D Va! It was not me! > > Hans > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:06:08 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: "what on earth is an "irredentist"?" I'm handy, so I'll take the liberty of answering for Alberto. An irredentist is a person of one ethnicity or nationality living under the dominion of a foreign power. In this case, Italians living in the Dual Monarchy. And the expression comes from the Italian, I believe, for "unredeemed", and is specific to the circumstances of Italians in Austrian-controlled areas. There is, though, a measure of rebellion in the term, so it is not impossible that the executions were in some way warranted. American examples would include Gringos in Texas before the Texas revolution, or even Civil War era Copperheads in the north, or Union sympathisers in the Confederacy. I, too, am bored at work... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:20:52 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Bored at Work? Message-ID: Okay, all you guys who are "bored at work", Come on over and you can help me answer mail. I've got the three letters a week from guys wanting to buy the Mikesh Albatros book and all our plans, because they are building a D.Va in their basement, The two a week from guys doing the same with the Focke Wulf 190, The daily letter for the same on one variant or the other on the 109, The daily letter for a guy who is rebuilding a P-51D, The weekly letter from a guy who wants to build a 163 or Natter, The twice weekly from people who want "everything you have on the Major American Space Programs" (!!!) The monthly letter for the Horten IX, The the increasing number of people requesting plans beacuse they have an "original" (their term not mine) idea, to build a replica Wright 1903 Flyer for the 100 Anniversary. Plus the other rockets, missiles, spacecraft, rag wing, metal wing, paddle-bladed or air sucking aircraft requests. So if you're bored, I've got mail for you. But now I'm going to lunch... ;-) Brian Brian Nicklas NASM Archives - Rm 3148 Smithsonian Institution PO Box 37012 National Air and Space Museum, MRC 322 Washington, DC 20013-7012 USA 1-202-357-3133 (telephone) 1-202-786-2835 (telefax) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:31:23 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: BE2c Message-ID: No wonder the observers caught so many colds! N >IIRC the French air service in the begginings (years before 1914) expected >that the observer aboard the airplane must know how to draw maps and they >carried a small portable device to take notes "au naturel" from the terrain. >D. -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:38:13 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Bored at Work? Message-ID: <002101c229c2$8424e580$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Brian! I'm the proud owner of a letter with your signature (must be worth millions today) answering questions about a misterious tube on the Albatros D.Va fuselage and other requesting info about the Hawker Fury biplane. Thanks for the prompt and polite answers! I still didn't knew you from the modelling list, I would have saved you from typing the letter! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Nicklas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: [WWI] Bored at Work? > Okay, all you guys who are "bored at work", > Come on over and you can help me answer mail. > I've got the three letters a week from guys wanting to buy the Mikesh > Albatros book and all our plans, > because they are building a D.Va in their basement, > The two a week from guys doing the same with the Focke Wulf 190, > The daily letter for the same on one variant or the other on the 109, > The daily letter for a guy who is rebuilding a P-51D, > The weekly letter from a guy who wants to build a 163 or Natter, > The twice weekly from people who want "everything you have on the Major > American Space Programs" (!!!) > The monthly letter for the Horten IX, > The the increasing number of people requesting plans beacuse they have an > "original" (their term not mine) idea, > to build a replica Wright 1903 Flyer for the 100 Anniversary. > Plus the other rockets, missiles, spacecraft, rag wing, metal wing, > paddle-bladed or air sucking aircraft requests. > So if you're bored, I've got mail for you. > But now I'm going to lunch... ;-) > Brian > > Brian Nicklas > NASM Archives - Rm 3148 > Smithsonian Institution > PO Box 37012 > National Air and Space Museum, MRC 322 > Washington, DC 20013-7012 USA > > 1-202-357-3133 (telephone) > 1-202-786-2835 (telefax) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:31:21 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Holiday - unsubscribing Message-ID: <3D2F0459.A1005B08@dial.pipex.com> Steven Perry wrote: > > Regional food differences are always great fun, but we better get this > back OT before the Scotts start slinging Hagis around ;-) > That's Scots and Haggis - what was that about two greta nations..... :-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:33:34 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bored at Work? Message-ID: <3D2F04DD.8FF6C17B@dial.pipex.com> Brian Nicklas wrote: > Okay, all you guys who are "bored at work", > Come on over and you can help me answer mail. errr, about that Pitcairn/Cierva C8W you have.......... :-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:39:08 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re: US visitor: success! Message-ID: <003301c229c2$a5242980$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Mountains. Tatra range of the Carpathians. Where the bat croaks and Vlad Tepes roam. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:40:19 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <004701c229c2$cf78f440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > ok, alberto, i have to ask--what on earth is an "irredentist"? An irreverent dentist D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:42:43 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Neat Nie.11 Message-ID: <005f01c229c3$258aa540$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> mmmm... a bit heavy on the weathering.... The markings are interesting, very colorful. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [WWI] Neat Nie.11 > There's a neat RCW Nie.11 on the airforce.ru modelism site: > http://www.airforce.ru/modelism/gallery/gitin/nieuport/index.htm > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:49:20 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Back from holidays Message-ID: <3D2F0890.448A5900@club-internet.fr> No problem with that, I was in a marriage with plenty of good food and good wines. Eric Diego Fernetti a écrit : > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric GALLAUD > > I am back from short holidays in the south of France, sun, nice little > > towns .... but absolutely nothing OT ;-) > > Well, of all countries, France is OT as a whole! > And I'm sure that all pilots tasted french wines, so that makes the trip OT > if you drank any. > D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:03:16 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Bored at Work? Message-ID: <008401c229c6$10bed340$6173fea9@s0024008072> > Okay, all you guys who are "bored at work", > Come on over and you can help me answer mail. > Plus the other rockets, missiles, spacecraft, rag wing, metal wing, > paddle-bladed or air sucking aircraft requests. > So if you're bored, I've got mail for you. > But now I'm going to lunch... ;-) > Brian Brian,. You forgot the Grad students and academics that are bugging you for esoterica on some machine or other... 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