WWI Digest 4518 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hannover Update by "Mark Shannon" 2) Re: speaking of paint mixes by "Mark Shannon" 3) RE: speaking of paint mixes by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: speaking of paint mixes by "Diego Fernetti" 5) RE: Hannover update by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Hobbycraft SPAD & painting by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 7) RE: Hannover update by Karen Rychlewski 8) Re: Hannover Update by Karen Rychlewski 9) RE: New model by "Pedro N. Soares" 10) Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 1 by "Mark Shannon" 11) Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... by Steve Cox 12) US visitor by Karen Rychlewski 13) Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 14) Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 15) Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 2 by "Mark Shannon" 16) Re: speaking of paint mixes by "Lance Krieg" 17) RE: US visitor by "Harris, Mack" 18) Re: Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 2 by "Michael Kendix" 19) Czech site on the Oeffag D.III 253.116 by tbittners@sprintmail.com 20) re: speaking of paint mixes by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 21) RE: Hannover update by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 22) re: speaking of paint mixes by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: AIR Enthusiast F/S by "Hans Trauner" 24) Flying Fo Dr I by Revell by "Hans Trauner" 25) Silent Auction daily up date 7/8/02 by "Thomas Solinski" 26) RE: speaking of paint mixes by Larry Marshall 27) Re: speaking of paint mixes by Larry Marshall 28) Re: Hobbycraft SPAD & painting by Larry Marshall 29) Re: Flying Fo Dr I by Revell by "Thomas Solinski" 30) Re: MicroSet/Sol question by "Mark Shannon" 31) Re: US visitor by Morg17ms@aol.com 32) Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) by "Dave Burke" 33) Re: Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) by "Pedro Soares" 34) RE: speaking of paint mixes by "Pedro Soares" 35) Off topic modeling-oriented rant by "Matt Bittner" 36) Re: Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) by "Mark Shannon" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 11:47:07 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Hannover Update Message-ID: Of course, the instructions could be trying to indicate that there was an evolution of schemes in Polish hands. They got the national markings on right away, because that was a necessity and took pride of place, and the underside of the wings were easier to paint over with blue than getting at the upper side of the wings. and doing the whole fuselage - just the odd thought. We do our models a bit less often in 'intermediate' status - unless we are trying to replicate a particular photo. I don't see any reason not to paint the underside blue - or even go a further step, and paint it mostly blue with brush marks trailing off as if the groundcrew were told to leave it, it had places to go. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 12:02:24 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: Silly me, I had been thinking they had removed lead and benzene from hobby and craft paints. Then along comes Michael and gives a classic demonstration of the mental symptoms of heavy metal and aromatic solvent poisoning...... >I admit this leads to an average of two visits per month to the hospital >emergency room to treat swallowing broken glass and/or poisoning but I >have become quite cosy with some of the attractive nurses working there. >The doctor, a man, sees me as a rival when it comes to the nurse >business, and has threatened to have me "Locked away for my own >good!" Of course, this nothing but the desperate rantings of a jealous man >- I mean it's not as though he's busy or anything and I'm keeping his skills >well honed. Notice the paranoia, poor sentence structure, disturbed reasoning, and delusional state..... Poor man, the only thng he's good for is 1/72nd scale models...... .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:08:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <031901c226a2$23cead60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> OK, I'll ask our suppliers here if they have these pipettes. I'm sure they'll have some sort. I tried the toothpick stunt, but I usually drop the enamel on the tin, the table, my clothes, someone else's clothes, etc. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro N. Soares To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:28 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: speaking of paint mixes > Diego, > > Some years ago I put the same question to our own List's Chemist (I wasn't a > memebr of the List yet but I happend to come across Mark's immense > intelectual generosity on RMS) and he said he used plastic disposable > pipettes. Well, I did search in the yellow pages for medical and lab > equipment supliers and got a 500 box of pipettes for the price of a couple > of 1/72 kits. I still have plenty of them since I discovered that they can > be recycled. i.e, if you use one and squeeze most of the pain inside after > using and let it dry, you'll be able to use it again some time later in the > future since the residual paint inside will be so dry it won't come off when > you use it again with another paint. > > Since I mostly use household paints in 1/4 lt. cans, I do not worry about > wasting a bit of paint, but using pipettes is very paint consuming because > there is a lot of paint that will be inside the pipette that will not run > out. This is critical with an humbrol enamel tinlet, but with a 1/4 lt can, > there's plenty of paint so you do not worry about wasting a bit of itt every > time you mix a colour. > > The other option I usually use is the old toothpick method: dip it in the > tin, remove it and let the paint drop to your mixing cup... > > HTH > > Pedro > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:10:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <032301c226a2$6c41bc40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael the eccentric Englander wrote: > I have > become quite cosy with some of the attractive nurses working there. The > doctor, a man, sees me as a rival when it comes to the nurse business, and > has threatened to have me "Locked away for my own good!" Of course, this > nothing but the desperate rantings of a jealous man - I mean it's not as > though he's busy or anything and I'm keeping his skills well honed. I think I wil stick on to sniffing glue instead. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:15:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Hannover update Message-ID: <033101c226a3$00fcfde0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Karen! > > I'd go all lozenged, or all CDL, or all green and light blue. Of course, you > > can always include a CDL wing and the rest on Lozenge, as if the component > > was replaced. > That's a good idea too. I'll have to think about that It'll be interesting to note the reaction of judges and colour policemen when they see a wing in a different guise than the rest! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:19:51 -0500 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Hobbycraft SPAD & painting Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC96F9@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Many thanks for the kind words regarding my latest offering. It means a lot, coming from such a skilled group. I would like to say that all the colors were mixed using the "pinch of this, dash of that" method, paint a test patch on some scrap plastic, let it dry, and adjust as necessary. I don't have an exact recipe for any of the colors, and they would be impossible to match again. That's why I mixed more than I needed (sometimes a *lot* more), so I could touch up boo-boos. Thanks again, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:22:16 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hannover update Message-ID: <3D29CA47.FE414E04@earthlink.net> Diego Fernetti wrote: > It'll be interesting to note the reaction of judges and colour policemen > when they see a wing in a different guise than the rest! Any judge that says it's wrong (whichever way I do it) better be 95 years old and speaking with a Polish accent... Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:27:47 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hannover Update Message-ID: <3D29CB92.69437781@earthlink.net> Mark Shannon wrote: > Of course, the instructions could be trying to indicate that there was an evolution of schemes in Polish hands. They got the national markings on right away, because that was a necessity and took pride of place, and the underside of the wings were easier to paint over with blue than getting at the upper side of the wings. and doing the whole fuselage - just the odd thought. And a good thought at that! > We do our models a bit less often in 'intermediate' status - unless we are trying to replicate a particular photo. I don't see any reason not to paint the underside blue - or even go a further step, and paint it mostly blue with brush marks trailing off as if the groundcrew were told to leave it, it had places to go. ...hot polka party starting, no doubt. Actually, that could be the start for a neat little diorama. I've seen several such of planes being re-painted and there's always a nice little story to be told. Thanks for the comments... Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:31:25 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New model Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301D1E927@TUFAO> Ken, Very Beautiful. Great paint job. Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 12:49:50 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 1 Message-ID: While I was joking with Michael about his pipetting post earlier, there are some things that are problems and should be taken seriously. One that has its amusing side, while actually being a health problem is a case I have posted on my office door: "One reference described a case involving the admission of a young man to a hospital in a nervous and tense state. Prior to hospitalization he complained of weakness, a need for more sleep that usual, loss of appetite, dazed and preoccupied look and the reoccurrence of a stutter. Physical examination was normal..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 18:49:52 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... Message-ID: I just add a splash of CDL to tone down the PC10 HTH more Steve =========================================== > From: Crawford Neil > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:13:28 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... > > My recipe for PC10 is a dollop of brown, a squidget of green > and just a waft of red. > HTH;-) > /Neil C. > > > >> At 08:55 08-07-02 -0400, you wrote: >>> Ok, having spent some of yesterday playing with some paint >> mixes by Ray >>> Rimell brought to mind the many times I have followed British mixing >>> instructions to match colors. I would like to see if there is some >>> secret, Islands-based code for certain terms. >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:54:12 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: aa-to post Subject: US visitor Message-ID: <3D29D1C3.782CA022@earthlink.net> Here's some news of note: Vaclav Hochmuth (he of the incredible scratchbuilt Fokker Spinne and others in our list gallery) has arrived on the US shores. He got as far as Brooklyn, where he's working and bunking with 3 of his countrymen; I think he said he's working at peeling some of the gold off the pavement. He'll be going home around the end of September. If we have any listees in or near NYC that would like to meet him, I'm sure he would be thrilled. He can be reached at vasohochmuth@yahoo.com if you'd like to say hello. He'd like to come to the IPMS Nats: is there anyone with a spare bed that could put him up? Or anyone driving down from NYC area that could give him a lift? Or any other suggestions on how we can get this talented Slovakian to the mother-of-all-vending-rooms? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:56:21 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... Message-ID: >The other thing is, I'm a Chemist.......... 1) Paint mixing is an art 2) An art is a science with more than seven variables....... N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:59:28 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Two Great Nations, Divided by a Common Language.... Message-ID: >What is a 'Dash' A dash is how much Angustura one adds to one's Pink Gin... as opposed to a splash, which is how much tonic one adds to one's Plymouth Gin. (I'm not a publican for nothing.........) N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 12:56:54 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 2 Message-ID: "The individual was diagnosed as suffering from a confused state and was treated for schizophrenia with a series of electroshock treatments. He was released from the hospital 2 weeks later. He still complained of nervousness but the stuttering had disappeared. It was later discovered that this man worked in the printing department of a plastics plant where Methyl Cellosolve was frequently used to clean the presses. A diagnosis of Methyl Cellosolve intoxication was made retrospectively. Estimated atmospheric concentrations of Methyl Cellosolve to which this worker was exposed ranged from 61-3960 ppm." Now, if I were confined, strapped down, and given jolts of electricity through my temporal lobes for two weeks, I'd be highly nervous, too. Glad they stopped his stutter. Methyl Cellosolve is one of the main ingredients in MicroSet and used to be, and may still be, in contact cleaning solutions. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:36:41 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: Diego takes on the tinlet: "...makes a mess of the lip of the container, and the dry paint on it means that the paint contents inside will dry shortly." It DOES make a mess. But if you're using Humbrol, the paint will never dry out; it has the same half-life as Strontium 90. If you're using Agama, you will WANT the paint to dry out, so you can throw it away and go buy good paint, like Humbrol. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 14:07:06 -0500 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: US visitor Message-ID: Karen, I have a room by myself so far, I should find out at our next club meeting if anyone still needs a roommate. If no ones does I would be happy to share, don't plan on being there very much anyway. Mack -----Original Message----- From: Karen Rychlewski [mailto:krychski@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] US visitor Here's some news of note: Vaclav Hochmuth (he of the incredible scratchbuilt Fokker Spinne and others in our list gallery) has arrived on the US shores. He got as far as Brooklyn, where he's working and bunking with 3 of his countrymen; I think he said he's working at peeling some of the gold off the pavement. He'll be going home around the end of September. If we have any listees in or near NYC that would like to meet him, I'm sure he would be thrilled. He can be reached at vasohochmuth@yahoo.com if you'd like to say hello. He'd like to come to the IPMS Nats: is there anyone with a spare bed that could put him up? Or anyone driving down from NYC area that could give him a lift? Or any other suggestions on how we can get this talented Slovakian to the mother-of-all-vending-rooms? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 19:16:21 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Just to be slightly more serious about safety.... Part 2 Message-ID: >From: "Mark Shannon" >Now, if I were confined, strapped down, and given jolts of electricity > >through my temporal lobes for two weeks, I'd be highly nervous, too. > >Glad they stopped his stutter. M-m-m-m-m-me t-t-t-too! >Methyl Cellosolve is one of the main ingredients in MicroSet and used >to >be, and may still be, in contact cleaning solutions. Hmm... that's the stuff that smells like vinegar/acetic acid based? I wonder whether a water-weakened solution of white vinegar would help soften decals? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:17:10 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Czech site on the Oeffag D.III 253.116 Message-ID: <20020708191710.3112746946@eclipse.qis.net> It looks to be concerned primarily with Navrotil's last machine (that eventually ended up with the Czech) along with the SMER kit and a scratchbuilt "egg". Nice, though! (And I can't remember if this one was already mentioned before - apologies if it has.) http://www.feudal.cz/html/albatros_d_iii__oeffag__253_11.htm Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:00:59 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <00e301c226ba$2ee30e40$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Speaking of paint mixes... > How do you extract paint from the tinlettes? Cheap plastic drinking straws. G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:06:17 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: Hannover update Message-ID: <00ff01c226ba$ec6045a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Diego Fernetti wrote: > > > It'll be interesting to note the reaction of judges and colour policemen > > when they see a wing in a different guise than the rest! Like this? http://www.us-aircraft.com/images/albatrossCVI.jpg Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:09:37 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: Grzegorz suggests: "Cheap plastic drinking straws." What an excellent idea...it never occured to me at all! This may send me back to tinlets. Thanks! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:57:41 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: AIR Enthusiast F/S Message-ID: <002301c226c2$19cd6fc0$27ac72d4@FRITZweb> Before you give No 8 away, would you please so kind and overpaint the blue-white Jasta 18 Raben DrI in red, please. Or print an Errata and glue in in! Remember the discussion last week! Kill wrong myths with the roots! Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:59 AM Subject: [WWI] AIR Enthusiast F/S > I have a couple of old AIR Enthusiast magazines, > containing WWI material: > No.8 (10/78) with article on Fokker Dr.1 by Grosz and > Ferko. "...A Reappraisal" 17 pages, photos, cutaways, > etc. > No. 21 (4/83) with article on Aviatik Berg D.1 by > Grosz, with Haddow and Schiemer. 14 pages as above. > These are $11 each postpaid, contact offline, pls. TIA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:21:34 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Flying Fo Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <009901c226c5$6fd77840$27ac72d4@FRITZweb> Hi, latest newsletter by Revell Germany says: MagicFlight MagicFlight Fokker DR 1 (Art.-Nr. 09104) It's the 'flying' variety, by the help of magnetos and 'invisible' thread. Maybe I'll 'convert' that to a Roden DrI... Hans P.S. Should I place an australian gunner on the base..? Or paint a Camel's shadow on it.....? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:18:36 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Silent Auction daily up date 7/8/02 Message-ID: <004401c226c5$06345160$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> >> > Starting bid for each kit is $12.00 US. > > > four DML 1/48 Knights ofthe sky series that are on the offering block. > > #5902 SPAD 13 in the red/white/ blue striping NONE > > #5904 SPAD 13 with Rickenbacker bust still sealed $15.50 > #5907 Fokker D-VIII markings for Lowenhardt NONE > > #5905 Fokker D-VII with markings for Von Buren Jasta 18. $30.75 > > Again please send you bids to tskio4@cox.net only! > > Thanks > > Tom Solinski > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:10:25 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <200207081253.05437.larrym@sympatico.ca> > and lab equipment supliers and got a 500 box of pipettes for the price of > a couple of 1/72 kits. I still have plenty of them since I discovered I agree. The guys who are selling these 10 for $5.00 to fellow hobbyists should be shot. > that they can be recycled. i.e, if you use one and squeeze most of the > pain inside after using and let it dry, you'll be able to use it again Certainly my experience. > The other option I usually use is the old toothpick method: dip it in the > tin, remove it and let the paint drop to your mixing cup... Another option is to get one of those glass droppers (with the rubber thingie on top). It's very easy to drop them into acetone and get them squeeky clean. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:09:33 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <200207081254.41295.larrym@sympatico.ca> > vigorously. I admit this leads to an average of two visits per month to > the hospital emergency room to treat swallowing broken glass and/or > poisoning but I have become quite cosy with some of the attractive nurses While not nearly as nice as your arrangement, you can get small rubber 'bulbs' that will provide the suction and pressure :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:33:22 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbycraft SPAD & painting Message-ID: <200207081333.22435.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I would like to say that all the colors were mixed using the "pinch of > this, dash of that" method, paint a test patch on some scrap plastic, let > it dry, and adjust as necessary. I don't have an exact recipe for any of > the colors, and they would be impossible to match again. That's why I Seems your 'recipe' is quite good :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:28:55 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Flying Fo Dr I by Revell Message-ID: <006e01c226c6$76943640$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> > > Hans > > P.S. Should I place an australian gunner on the base..? Or paint a Camel's > shadow on it.....? > D. All of the above, after you paint the cowl with green and yellow stripes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:32:16 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: MicroSet/Sol question Message-ID: <008501c226c6$eedaec20$dd11aec7@theshann> There is some free alcohol in the MicroSol, smells to me like butanol-pentanol in range, but the main smell I get is acetate ester - just not ethyl acetate. It smells a lot like butyl acetate/butyl cellosolve, to me, but my sniffer ain't as practiced as it once were. I used to make the longer molecules that go into detergents that are similar to the cellosolves, called ethoxylates or nonionic surfactants, so the smell is pretty distinctive to me. I'd say we're both right, it is alcohol/acetate based, it just isn't the straight shot of rubbing alcohol that Solvaset is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Marshall" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: MicroSet/Sol question > > > Both the Micro-Sol and Micro-Set are acetate based, and I've never had a > > Are you sure about this, Mark? I went out today and paid my $5 to get a > bottle of Micro-Set. As Michael has stated, Micro-Set has a distinct > acetic acid smell while Micro-Sol smells like an alcohol mix. > > Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:36:41 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: US visitor Message-ID: --part1_e5.1a71458b.2a5b5fe9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karen - the room I have booked supposedly has 2 queen sized beds, and there is just little old me in the room ........ so staying there with me is a possibility, unless one of my IPMS cronies from Winnipeg decides to come. What other info do you have? Tom Morgan --part1_e5.1a71458b.2a5b5fe9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karen - the room I have booked supposedly has 2 queen sized beds, and there is just little old me in the room ........ so staying there with me is a possibility, unless one of my IPMS cronies from Winnipeg decides to come.  What other info do you have?

Tom Morgan
--part1_e5.1a71458b.2a5b5fe9_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:12:04 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) Message-ID: <009501c226cc$7edea6e0$6173fea9@s0024008072> Hey Lee, Glad to hear you are O.K. Saw New Braunfels on the news and thought about you. Hope all is well! DB In sweltering Alabama... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:25:01 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) Message-ID: <002301c226ce$4d20aa20$e96c16d5@netcabo.pt> Let mejust chime in to wish that the floods have not affected any of you guys out there. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Burke To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: [WWI] Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) > Hey Lee, > > Glad to hear you are O.K. Saw New Braunfels on the news and thought > about you. Hope all is well! > > DB > > In sweltering Alabama... > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:22:47 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: speaking of paint mixes Message-ID: <001701c226cd$fd405c80$e96c16d5@netcabo.pt> .. > Another option is to get one of those glass droppers (with the rubber > thingie on top). It's very easy to drop them into acetone and get them > squeeky clean. > > Cheers --- Larry > Yes, but the rubber thingie will go dry with the solvents and will eventually become dust (dust to dust, ashes to thinners....) The pipettes can also be given a wash with thinners after you use them. Just pump some thinners in and out to a jar filled with the stuff... and keep the window open and close the jar afterwards... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 17:50:30 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Off topic modeling-oriented rant Message-ID: Just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention, as it is directly related to one of the sites I maintain. The WingMasters publication _Barbarossa: Les Faucons de Staline Contre la Luftwaffe (Jiun-Decembre 1941)_ has blatently "ripped off" Erik's (the main historian for our site) work that can be found on our VVS site. While I can ask that people not buy this magazine/book (but realise that others may feel differently), I mainly want to bring it to everyone's attention. Erik has been in contact with his publisher (since what's on the site will more than likely end up in his book, to be published next Spring) and the outcome is still pending. Still, we're expressing our opinion far and wide for people to be aware of the copyright violations found in the above mentioned book. Any replies or rebuttals, please don't crowd the list, and send me personal email. Thanks for everyone's attention. ;-) For more information, Erik has posted quite a long piece on the exchange between him, his publisher and WingMasters. Our URL is: http://www.kithobbyist.com/VVS Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:40 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) Message-ID: <000f01c226d2$0697e240$dd11aec7@theshann> Here in Austin the only problems are that the lakes are having to deal with a year's worth of runoff in a week. The people around the lakes are complaining that the water control board are not releasing the water fast enough to protect their houses (hello, what part of 'downstream flood control dam retention area and catchment basin' didn't you understand when you built there - the part about 'high water flood zone'?). Some of East Austin has had problems because it is in the outlet area of all the creeks that drain the hill country east of the dam system, one trailer park/business area in particular near the airport. The amazing thing was how the system just stalled and pumped water up in a swath the route of interstate highway I-35 from the gulf to Austin and sat over San Antonio (and New Braunfels and the Canyon Lake area) for days. Our biggest problem is the mosquitos, now - they normally grow to Gotha size, and most of them think DEET repellent is a sauce and garlic is their favorite spice. Now they are reaching Zeppelin-Straaken or Ilya Murometzs size with the maneuverability and stings of Dr.I's and D.VII's. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Burke" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: [WWI] Texas Flood (sorry Stevie) > Hey Lee, > > Glad to hear you are O.K. Saw New Braunfels on the news and thought > about you. Hope all is well! > > DB > > In sweltering Alabama... > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4518 **********************