WWI Digest 4512 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: clear inspection panels by Crawford Neil 2) Re: clear inspection panels by Tom Gourdie 3) Chemical reagent by Moonlight Liao 4) Re: clear inspection panels by Crawford Neil 5) Re: clear inspection panels by Tom Gourdie 6) Re: clear inspection panels by "Matt Bittner" 7) Site updated by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: WWI digest 4510 by jje4@earthlink.net 9) RE: Site updated by "Diego Fernetti" 10) RE: Milliput by Jan Vihonen 11) Re: Milliput by "Michael Kendix" 12) RE: Milliput by Crawford Neil 13) RE: Milliput by "Diego Fernetti" 14) RE: Milliput by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: clear inspection panels by Crawford Neil 16) RE: Milliput by Crawford Neil 17) Re: clear inspection panels by "Diego Fernetti" 18) RE: Milliput by "Diego Fernetti" 19) RE: Milliput by Jan Vihonen 20) Spad bomber by Crawford Neil 21) Re: clear inspection panels by Crawford Neil 22) RE: Spad bomber by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: WWI digest 4510 by Gregory West 24) RE: Spad bomber by Crawford Neil 25) RE: Spad bomber by "Diego Fernetti" 26) Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber by Crawford Neil 27) RE: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber by "Diego Fernetti" 28) Re: WWI in Plastic by Dennis Ugulano 29) Re: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber by tbittners@sprintmail.com 30) RE: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber by tbittners@sprintmail.com 31) Re: clear inspection panels by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 32) who produces AH sworls now? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 33) Re: clear inspection panels by "Diego Fernetti" 34) Re: who produces AH sworls now? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 35) SPAD and boredom by tbittners@sprintmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:50:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: You could make portholes the same way, drill a hole, put a bit of tape on the back, fill with CA, sand smooth. But can you get the CA really clear? Landing lights would probably work too, I've used CA a lot for filling but never like this, its a brilliant idea, but I wonder if clear plastic wouldnt give a better impression? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:57:24 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: <02Jul5.095817bst.118094@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> Neil Wouldn't sanded CA with a coat of Future be clear enough? ot builders frequently use Future to make scratched canopies etc look like new. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: 05 July 2002 09:52 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: clear inspection panels You could make portholes the same way, drill a hole, put a bit of tape on the back, fill with CA, sand smooth. But can you get the CA really clear? Landing lights would probably work too, I've used CA a lot for filling but never like this, its a brilliant idea, but I wonder if clear plastic wouldnt give a better impression? /Neil C. This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. 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Certainly for inspection panels beneath the wings, but I was thinking of landing lights and other clear parts which are very much in view, sort of things that will make or break a model, would CA (and future) be clear enough for that? /Neil C. > Neil > > Wouldn't sanded CA with a coat of Future be clear enough? ot builders > frequently use Future to make scratched canopies etc look like new. > > Tom > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:36:23 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: <02Jul5.103720bst.118088@ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk> Neil Getting down to basics. Would the clear inspection panels be all that clear? Wouldn't they discolour etc quite quickly on an OT aircraft? What was the original material? Cellon? Tom -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: 05 July 2002 10:10 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: clear inspection panels Yes I guess so. Certainly for inspection panels beneath the wings, but I was thinking of landing lights and other clear parts which are very much in view, sort of things that will make or break a model, would CA (and future) be clear enough for that? /Neil C. > Neil > > Wouldn't sanded CA with a coat of Future be clear enough? ot builders > frequently use Future to make scratched canopies etc look like new. > > Tom > > This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 05:41:10 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 05:10:06 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > Yes I guess so. Certainly for inspection panels beneath the wings, but > I was thinking of landing lights and other clear parts which are very > much in view, sort of things that will make or break a model, > would CA (and future) be clear enough for that? I think CA would dry clear enough for landing lights, etc. However, why not try MV Lenses? Although made for the model railroaders, these are a boon - at least - to the armor modeler. This is what you use to provide "real looking" lights on tanks, and other ground vehicles. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 05:49:55 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Site updated Message-ID: Yes, prolific modeler Bill Arnold strikes again. This time it's an Albatros D.I dressed as a British captured machine. Awesome!! Bill better slow down; he's making the rest of us look bad, in terms out output! :-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 04:06:53 -0700 From: jje4@earthlink.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 4510 Message-ID: you know what got me started on this was a visit last fall to the Antique airplane fly-in at Wings Field outside Philadelphia. Greg - Where are you located in PA? I was at the same fly-in...my favorite was the beautiful black and yellow Tiger Moth. I'm located in Lansdale. john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:13:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Site updated Message-ID: <00af01c22414$ecd4a560$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> This guy Arnold is doing all the planes I'd like to build! ;-) Good work, Bill! I think I have some of the pictures you mention. Do you remember the name of the company? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:50 AM Subject: [WWI] Site updated > Yes, prolific modeler Bill Arnold strikes again. This time it's > an Albatros D.I dressed as a British captured machine. Awesome!! > Bill better slow down; he's making the rest of us look bad, in > terms out output! :-) > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 14:16:09 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: <3D257FF9.93C72246@helsinki.fi> > Saw that Peter answered this, but nonetheless I will chip in and > agree. I usually leave it overnight, and even then it's only just > dry. The useful thing is that you can carve it in the half-dry state > thus saving some sanding. I've heard that heat will make it dry > quicker, but I've never tried it. I have tried heat drying the Milliput. Here in Finland it's rather easy since every family has some kind of sauna nearby. It takes only half an hour to cure in a sauna of some 80 degrees Centigrade. Also paint dries fast and it's surface gets very smooth in a not so hot sauna (something around 50-60 centigrade). BTW, speaking of Milliput, you can very easily "sand" it in it's uncured state with wet finger, cotton bud or similar under running tap. I have been doing this for quite a long time and with my experience I have to sand it very little with sandpaper, if at all. Excellent stuff. I wholeheartedly agree with Peter. Jan (another very slow modeller) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 11:25:10 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Milliput Message-ID: >From: PetersList@aol.com > >Four hours is no time at all. Give it at least twelve. Wonderful stuff > >Milliput. I hope whoever invented it got rich on the proceeds and >lives >to be 100. Peter: Thanks and thanks to all the others who responded. It appears to have hardened now - about 16 hours. The only reason I wondered was the box says " Milliput goes rock hard in 2 to 3 hours atnormal room temperature". I sculpted it at about 3 hours. It sculpted nicely actually, and of course, because it was still a little soft, it sculpted a lot easier. I have tried using it before to fill seams but that worked less well. Thus, I don't have to go back to Rosemont to get a replacement vac fuselage for the RE5: the saga continues - now making the steering wheel, while letting the Milliput dry just a bit more before using the Dremel on it to carve out the front fuselage opening once again. Thanks. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:23:58 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: > I have tried heat drying the Milliput. Here in Finland it's > rather easy > since every family has some kind of sauna nearby. It takes > only half an > hour to cure in a sauna of some 80 degrees Centigrade. Also > paint dries > fast and it's surface gets very smooth in a not so hot sauna > (something > around 50-60 centigrade). > We're an underdeveloped country here in Sweden, we have nowhere near that sort of sauna/household statistics. I believe swedish modellers dry their milliput under hot table-lamps, we're obviously amateurs;-) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:33:47 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: <00e101c22417$d3b075c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Jan wrote: > I have tried heat drying the Milliput. Here in Finland it's rather easy > since every family has some kind of sauna nearby. It takes only half an > hour to cure in a sauna of some 80 degrees Centigrade. Also paint dries > fast and it's surface gets very smooth in a not so hot sauna (something > around 50-60 centigrade). I always learn something new on this list. There's a whole bunch of ideas springing to my mind now and I can't decide for wich to write. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:35:11 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: <00e701c22418$060b15c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > I believe > swedish modellers dry their milliput under hot table-lamps, > we're obviously amateurs;-) Besides that, you can't do it naked. Sweden is a cold country, I was told. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:34:22 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: What I was thinking of is a scratchbuild project I've had buzzing around in my head for years, a Bloch 220 (sort of DC3 lookalike). That has a row of windows down the side, or to keep it OT how about the Spad SA bomber with portholes in the side. Traditionally I reckon I'd cut out holes and fill with acetate sheet, problem is that never turns out really well around the edges. You can't sand on clear acetate. If I instead filled the holes with CA, by taping on the back even big holes could be filled, it could be sanded ultra smooth, then futured, but would it look better than acetate windows? Anyone know? /Neil C. > I think CA would dry clear enough for landing lights, etc. > However, why not try MV Lenses? Although made for the model > railroaders, these are a boon - at least - to the armor modeler. > This is what you use to provide "real looking" lights on tanks, > and other ground vehicles. > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:39:21 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: > > I believe > > swedish modellers dry their milliput under hot table-lamps, > > we're obviously amateurs;-) > > Besides that, you can't do it naked. Sweden is a cold > country, I was told. > D. > Nothing compared to Finland, brrrrr! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:43:27 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: <010901c22419$2d57b420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I may try the technique right this weekend and report on monday. Wish me luck D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:39 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: clear inspection panels > What I was thinking of is a scratchbuild project I've had buzzing around > in my head for years, a Bloch 220 (sort of DC3 lookalike). That has > a row of windows down the side, or to keep it OT how about the Spad SA > bomber with portholes in the side. Traditionally I reckon I'd cut out > holes and fill with acetate sheet, problem is that never turns out really > well around the edges. You can't sand on clear acetate. If I instead > filled the holes with CA, by taping on the back even big holes could be > filled, it could be sanded ultra smooth, then futured, but would it > look better than acetate windows? Anyone know? > /Neil C. > > > > I think CA would dry clear enough for landing lights, etc. > > However, why not try MV Lenses? Although made for the model > > railroaders, these are a boon - at least - to the armor modeler. > > This is what you use to provide "real looking" lights on tanks, > > and other ground vehicles. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:48:14 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: <011901c22419$d8b94cc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Nothing compared to Finland, brrrrr! That's why they considered the table-lamps as little help fro them (no pun intended!) D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 14:51:29 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Milliput Message-ID: <3D258841.BDC942CB@helsinki.fi> Diego wrote: > > I believe > > swedish modellers dry their milliput under hot table-lamps, > > we're obviously amateurs;-) > > Besides that, you can't do it naked. Sweden is a cold country, I was told. So is Finland. And that's why we spend so much time in our saunas (drying just painted models or Milliput). ;-) Jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:45:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Spad bomber Message-ID: That Spad bomber I mentioned, maybe it was called the Spad SE , can't quite remember, but it's in the FMP book and cool as iced Pernod. A bit like a Gotha but with a big Spad fin, one of these days......... /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 13:49:03 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: > > I may try the technique right this weekend and report on monday. > Wish me luck > D. OK, luck! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:58:40 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: <012901c2241b$4ddf6c40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Just take the challenge, Neil! Check James Gray's excellent article on the latest IM about his scratchbuilt caudron bomber D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: [WWI] Spad bomber > > That Spad bomber I mentioned, maybe it was called the Spad SE > , can't quite remember, but it's in the FMP book and cool as > iced Pernod. A bit like a Gotha but with a big Spad fin, > one of these days......... > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:01:12 -0400 From: Gregory West To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 4510 Message-ID: Hi John, I think I remember that plane. was it parked at the back-middle? There were several bi-planes parked together along the back row right? i spoke to an english couple that owned one of them and either it was a gypsy or tiger moth, forgive my ignorance! My son and i were thrilled with the autogiro. The way it slowly came in and landed was cool. It reminded me of the Three Stooges serial that featured the original plane. I was also taken with the "Lithuanian" biplane airliner. I can't wait for this year. I'll remember to bring my camera. we also went to the airshow at the willowgrove airstation that weekend. Which was fun but not quite as interesting. more akin to a monster truck show really. walk up to a Hercules with a 3 ft tall 4 year old and be prepared for his funny remarks. I live in bluebell hill-a section of mount airy. not far at all. greg On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 07:07 AM, jje4@earthlink.net wrote: > > > > > you know what got me started on this was a visit last fall to the > Antique airplane fly-in at Wings Field outside Philadelphia. > > > Greg - Where are you located in PA? I was at the same fly-in...my > favorite was > the beautiful black and yellow Tiger Moth. > > I'm located in Lansdale. > > john > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:02:00 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: > Just take the challenge, Neil! > Check James Gray's excellent article on the latest IM about > his scratchbuilt > caudron bomber > D. Yes saw that, talk about inspirational :-) /Neil C. Ps. The Caudron is a fighter! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:10:17 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: <016301c2241c$ed744720$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> The Caudron R.XI? Gosh I'd have sweared it was a bomber, being so big. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:06 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Spad bomber > > > > Just take the challenge, Neil! > > Check James Gray's excellent article on the latest IM about > > his scratchbuilt > > caudron bomber > > D. > > Yes saw that, talk about inspirational :-) > /Neil C. > Ps. The Caudron is a fighter! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:24:52 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: I may be wrong, I often am, but I think it was an escort fighter, equipped with 6 machine guns, meant to fly along with the bomber squadrons and protect them. It's possible it could have worked in WW1, but the same sort of idea was a failure in WW2. I don't really know how successful the escort fighters were. I think also there was a big Letord fighter too? /Neil C. > > The Caudron R.XI? > Gosh I'd have sweared it was a bomber, being so big. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:30:57 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: <01dd01c2241f$d094e440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I can't say, but sure I do remember the "dh5ish" looks of the Letord airplane. Wasn't Steve Perry building one of those from scratch? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > I may be wrong, I often am, but I think it was an escort fighter, > equipped with 6 machine guns, meant to fly along with the bomber squadrons > and protect them. It's possible it could have worked in WW1, but the > same sort of idea was a failure in WW2. I don't really know how > successful the escort fighters were. I think also there was a big Letord > fighter too? > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:43:10 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: WWI in Plastic Message-ID: <200207050843_MC3-1-542-C956@compuserve.com> Hans, Brad lives here in Fresno and I see him every now and then. (The last time I saw him he was in his restored MG) He works at a local TV station. The last time I saw him he was pondering updating his book but I don't know if he has made any progress in that direction. He hasn't built anything in a number of years but still has a keen interest in WW1. I don't think he has an e-mail address but I can inquire for you. I don't think he is into stamps, at least not yet. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 05/20/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: <20020705124612.2F06B46999@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:26:04 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: >I may be wrong, I often am, but I think it was an escort fighter, >equipped with 6 machine guns, meant to fly along with the bomber squadrons >and protect them. It's possible it could have worked in WW1, but the >same sort of idea was a failure in WW2. I don't really know how >successful the escort fighters were. I think also there was a big Letord >fighter too? Correct, the Caudron R.11 ended up being a three-seat escort fighter. Maybe "fighter" is the wrong term, but it's primary mission ended up being a "protector" to the bombers they flew with. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Escort fighters was RE: RE: Spad bomber Message-ID: <20020705124701.479B64699C@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:31:31 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: >I can't say, but sure I do remember the "dh5ish" looks of the Letord >airplane. >Wasn't Steve Perry building one of those from scratch? Yes, he's working on a Letord 7, I believe. Not sure about it being an escort fighter, though. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:00:42 -0500 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: >On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 05:10:06 -0400 (EDT), Crawford Neil wrote: > >> Yes I guess so. Certainly for inspection panels beneath the wings, but >> I was thinking of landing lights and other clear parts which are very >> much in view, sort of things that will make or break a model, > would CA (and future) be clear enough for that? I have been using CA for lights for years. I cut a notch in the wing, insert a pin head or some other something to represent the light bulb. With a paint brush or q-tip, apply some Zip Kicker (CA setting agent) and start dropping the CA in the opening a drop at a time. I over fill the opening, then give the CA about 5 minutes to cure. Don't wait much longer, as the longer CA cures, the harder it gets. I then start with a file, follower bu 400 and 600 sand paper to get the clear part flush with the wing, or to what shape I want it. This is follower by a few seconds with one of the tri-grit polishing sticks and a drop or two of water. The result is a crystal clear lens. If you end up with a air bubble in the ca, don't worry about it. When you file or sand down to the bubble, clean it out and fill with more CA. It won't show and you can't see it after it is polished. JP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:25:36 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: who produces AH sworls now? Message-ID: <00ca01c2242f$d4d84000$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! I remember someone produces AH sworls decals (I don't mean Blue Rider old sheet). Could someone give me his URL? BTW, this URL should be also in our list website links section! Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:29:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: clear inspection panels Message-ID: <026c01c22430$55666800$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > If you end up with a air bubble in the ca, don't worry about it. > When you file or sand down to the bubble, clean it out and fill with > more CA. It won't show and you can't see it after it is polished. Thanks John, that's what concerned me most about the procedure. And with the tip on making small pulleys as Ernest wrote, I'm quite sure that I can pull this OK! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: who produces AH sworls now? Message-ID: <20020705143902.354764699E@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:29:00 -0400 (EDT), Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: >I remember someone produces AH sworls decals (I don't mean Blue Rider old >sheet). >Could someone give me his URL? >BTW, this URL should be also in our list website links section! It was Mike Grant: http://www.cadvision.com/mikegrant/MikeGrantDecals/ Unfortunately his ALPS went belly up, and he no longer makes - nor will make - ALPS-generated decals when his ALPS returns from being serviced. He will do custom decals when it returns, but that's about it. The rest of his decals are silk-screened printer, if memory serves. Unfortunately that's about three sets of decals. Maybe someone could chat with Mike Grant and get him to release the sworl image he used to print the decals. Then those on the list with ALPS could print them off, at least for themselves. Just an idea... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SPAD and boredom Message-ID: <20020705144242.817C24699E@eclipse.qis.net> Since I'm one of about five or six people in the office today (not having enough vacation left to take the day off) I'm bored, so I thought I would complain. :-) For those who don't remember, I used a "permanent" double-sided "tape" to stick the scribed, "new" turtledeck I made for the Amodel SPAD SA.2 I'm working on. Well, it turns out it didn't work, and I could not get *anything* to blend. Argh! So, I removed the old turtledeck and am trying to remove the left-over tape residue now, and then will have to re-add another "new", scribed turtledeck (unless I take Diego's idea and run with it...). Sorry for the complaining, but like I said, I'm bored here and I do *not* want to find work to do. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4512 **********************