WWI Digest 4468 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) To any and all by "Lee M." 2) Re: To any and all by Tom Plesha 3) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by "Dave Burke" 4) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 5) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by "David C. Fletcher" 6) RE: Rigging with wire by Al Superczynski 7) Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 8) Yesterday in history - the Italian front by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 9) Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos by "Marek Mincbergr" 10) Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos by Steven Perry 11) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 12) RE: Rigging with wire by Larry Marshall 13) Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos by "Michael Kendix" 14) Ceramic wire rqst by ssh 15) RE: Ceramic wire rqst by "Graham Hunter" 16) RE: Ceramic wire rqst by ssh 17) Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) by bill anthony 18) Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) by tbittners@sprintmail.com 19) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by "Dave Burke" 20) Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by PolTexCW@aol.com 22) Re: Lead Foil sheets? by "Ken Acosta" 23) Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) by "NEIL EDDY" 24) Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? by bill anthony 26) Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) by "Kozlowski Michal" 27) Re: N.11 interior wood by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:30:46 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Cc: Subject: To any and all Message-ID: <00b601c210f8$60a8bc40$ad4d39cc@mesystem> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There seems to be a very big problem with the kist since i have received = no messages for two days. I have requested information, eg: the FAQ and a Reviesw list of member = and all messages have been returned with a comment address error. A few days ago one of the mambers commented about his ISP believing the = WW I group was SPAM messages. Makes one wonder about what is going on. Anyone else being left out for the 9th and 10th. My last message was = from Mike Kendix on the 8th. Lee M. New Braunfels. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There seems to be a very big problem = with the kist=20 since i have received no messages for two days.
 
I have requested information, eg: the = FAQ and a=20 Reviesw list of member and all messages have been returned with a = comment =20 address error.
 
A few days ago one of the mambers = commented about=20 his ISP believing the WW I group was SPAM messages.  Makes one = wonder about=20 what is going on.
 
Anyone else being left out for the 9th = and=20 10th.  My last message was from Mike Kendix on the = 8th.
 
Lee M.
New = Braunfels.
------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:32:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: To any and all Message-ID: <20020611033234.69652.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Lee- You are here now? Later Tom --- "Lee M." wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > There seems to be a very big problem with the kist > since i have received = > no messages for two days. > > I have requested information, eg: the FAQ and a > Reviesw list of member = > and all messages have been returned with a comment > address error. > > A few days ago one of the mambers commented about > his ISP believing the = > WW I group was SPAM messages. Makes one wonder > about what is going on. > > Anyone else being left out for the 9th and 10th. My > last message was = > from Mike Kendix on the 8th. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Transitional//EN"> > > content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > name=3DGENERATOR> > > > >
There seems to be a > very big problem = > with the kist=20 > since i have received no messages for two > days.
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C210CE.77233A60-- > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:05:35 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: <001b01c210fd$3dc22860$19ed79a5@s0024008072> Hey Jon, Tamiya sells lead foil sheets that armor modelers use - great stuff. Don't know a toll-free number though... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:10:15 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: <6e.1dd672a1.2a36d227@aol.com> --part1_6e.1dd672a1.2a36d227_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tamiya sells lead foil sheets Thanks DB, I know about those, tougher to find then hens teeth. Someone put a 1-800 number up for a company that sold lead sheets that were very thin, .002" I believe. I just cannot for the life of me find that number anywhere and I know I saved it. Best Regards, Jon --part1_6e.1dd672a1.2a36d227_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tamiya sells lead foil sheets

Thanks DB, I know about those, tougher to find then hens teeth. Someone put a 1-800 number up for a company that sold lead sheets that were very thin, .002" I believe. I just cannot for the life of me find that number anywhere and I know I saved it.

Best Regards,
Jon 


             

--part1_6e.1dd672a1.2a36d227_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:07:50 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: <3D0593B6.2040808@mars.ark.com> > Tamiya sells lead foil sheets Just buy a quality wine and keep the lead foil from the neck - it's easier to find and a lot more enjoyable than Tamiya... Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:48:02 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Rigging with wire Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:51:34 -0400 (EDT), Larry wrote: >...I've spent a lot of time reading model stuff n the web. Have you read the rec.models.scale newsgroup's FAQ at http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/rms_tips/rmsfaq.1.html ? It's a gold mine of modeling tips. HTH, Al ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:50:22 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Cc: Subject: Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F07F5@SERVER1> Bill, I am sure you know that the Ni11 cockpit was 90% ply covered, as the forward part of the fuselage (including the cockpit decking) was covered with wooden panels, just as the complete rear fuselage decking. Wooden panels were covered with fabric externally. I agree with Diego as far as the fabric colour is concerned: off-white will be fine in my opinion. All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------- Original Message ------------------------- Hello, I plan on painting the inside of my 1.72 Nieuport 11. But am wondering, what color would the fabric on the inside be for a French Nieuport 11. Would aged white be fine to represent the CDL on the inside, or if the plane was painted yellowish, would the CDL on the inside be the color too?? Thanks, Bill Anthony --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:54:01 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Yesterday in history - the Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F07F6@SERVER1> 10th June 1916: The Italian army attack on the Asiago plateau and re-gain the territories which were lost to the Austro-Hungarian’s offensive of the previous May. 10th June 1917: The Italian mountain corps “Alpini” attack the Monte Ortigara mountain and conquer it. 10th June 1918: The Austrian battleship Szent Istvan is sunk by Com. Luigi Rizzo’s MAS near Premuda island. Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:01:54 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos Message-ID: <001901c21126$cd1610c0$8aeb5ad4@j> Hi Tom, I am looking for H-B C.I ser 27 general views and for cockpit shots from whole range of series. Thanks Marek > Hi Marek- > What exactly are you looking for? Only the cockpit? > Also, in this book everything is referenced by the A-H > designations with the H-B C.I, the 27 does not show > up. > Later > Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:38:00 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos Message-ID: <3D05D308.1010602@tampabay.rr.com> Marek Mincbergr wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I am looking for H-B C.I ser 27 general views and for cockpit shots from > whole range of series. Marek: In Die Flugseuge der k.u.k. Luftfahrtrupe und Seeflieger 1914-1918, (ISBN 3-900310-46-7) there are a few photos of 27 series HB C.Is. 27.40, 27.77, 27.88, 27.75 & 27.24. 27.75 is the best shot, a closeup of stbd nose showing engine, cowl, U/C & radiator to good advantage. 27.24 is one of the turreted models and is shown from the port side with the wings off and the tail up on a sawhorse. The listing of the series goes: 27.01 (ex 26.71) Phonix built with DM 160 engine, 27.02-27.79 Phonix built with DM 160-185, 27.80-27.88 Phonix built with DM 185. Unfortunately no cockpit or interior shots of this series. Markings, 27.40 Black Eisern cruze on fuselage white outlined on rudder, 27.77 Wide balkan cruse on fuse. Balkan cruz on wing(not quite as wide) rudder not visible, 27.88 black eisern cruse on white square on fuselage white fin & rudder with black eisern cruz, Nothing visible on 27.75 and 27.24 has black eisern cruz on white field on fuselage side. Unfortunately I have no scanner and no ready access to a copier for a few days. If the need isn't pressing, LMK and I will attempt to get copies made in a day or two. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:44:42 -0500 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: > > Tamiya sells lead foil sheets > >Just buy a quality wine and keep the lead foil from the neck - it's >easier to find and a lot more enjoyable than Tamiya... Another way to get the foil is to ask the manager of one of the restaurants in your area that has a good wine selection if they would throw the seals in a container instead of the trash. It would not take more than a week and you would have a good supply of foil. When you get it home, it will take a little bit of time to straighten it out, sort it by size if you want, and find a place to keep it. If you happen to have a winery in your area, you might try stopping in and asking if they would sell you a dozen or so blank seals. You never know what you may get, but the worst case would be a polite "I'm sorry, but we can't do that". John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:52:31 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Rigging with wire Message-ID: <200206110752.31112.larrym@sympatico.ca> > On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:51:34 -0400 (EDT), Larry wrote: > >...I've spent a lot of time reading model stuff n the web. > > Have you read the rec.models.scale newsgroup's FAQ at > http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/rms_tips/rmsfaq.1.html ? It's a > gold mine of modeling tips. No, and I thank you for that URL. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from it. But I was looking for a book, with an entire chapter on each basic subject. These are not 'tips', they would be a couple thousand words on a basic technique (eg - airbrushing, puttying, assembly). Many of these basics I know but for someone getting into this hobby, they are the meat and potatos that you guys have long time taken for granted. An old example of such a book is "How to Build Plastic Aircraft Models" by Kalmbach but it's woefully out of date. If you want to see what I'm talking about, go to the Finescale Modeler site. They present some "Example articles" in an attempt to sell their magazine to people. The vast majority of these articles are of the type I'm talking about as they're very well aware that this is what sells magazines. You'll see titles like "Basics of Brush Painting", "Easy Approach to Weathering", "Working with Enamels", "FSM's Favorite Putty" Each of these present, in a thorough fashion, these basic skills. Again, I know this stuff is too boring for seasoned modelers to want to write about them for free and then stick these articles on websites. That's why I was looking for a book. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:41:42 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hansa-Brandenburg C.I 27.xx photos Message-ID: >From: Tom Plesha > >Hi Michael- >Not "OOPS" BUT "WOOPS"!!! >Not sure how I missed that, but I was looking at the >series on p.431. >. >One thing I'm finding in this book, is to look at the >index, not the table of contents. The book is supposed to be organized by manufacturer but if the reader is not familiar with, for example, the fact that HB C.1's were produced by UFAG, Phönix and I forget who else, they are SOL! As you say, you have to keep fliping back to the flipping index. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:55:21 -0400 From: ssh To: wwi-list Subject: Ceramic wire rqst Message-ID: <3D05D89E00009DA9@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Hi Can somebody please post the phone number of Precision Enterprise( who make ceramic wire). I lost it yet again. Thanks in advance SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:06:01 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Ceramic wire rqst Message-ID: <000101c21151$1ee766e0$770101c0@ghunter> Sanjeeve, Their ph no. is 802 885 3094. Marita Johnson will likely answer the call. HTH, Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:15:00 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: RE: Ceramic wire rqst Message-ID: <3D05D89E0000B5F8@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Larry, Here's the phone number. You may have to try them after hours, ie, after 6PM weekdays or saturday morning (US eastern time). Graham, Thanks >Sanjeeve, Their ph no. is 802 885 3094. Marita Johnson will likely >answer >the call. >HTH, Graham > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) Message-ID: <20020611142856.22889.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, A silly question, but when you use decal, do you apply two piece, one on each side? or do you just use one piece and wrap it around? See, I said it was a silly question. Thanks, Bill Anthony --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:57:28 -0400 (EDT), Jamie > Gagnon wrote: > > Welcome! > > > What is the best method to replicate those metal > bands around the struts > > which seemed to be a trademark of French machines? > > Actually they're not metal, they're fabric. > > > I've tried painting, but the result looks like a > band of paint. I tried > > painting a band of Tamiya tape, but the stuff did > not seem to want to stay > > on with such a narrow contact area. > > I use strips of decal. Until someone else can come > up with > something better, that's what I'll keep using. :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:33:09 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) Message-ID: <20020611143309.B907446952@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:30:27 -0400 (EDT), bill anthony wrote: > A silly question, but when you use decal, do you >apply two piece, one on each side? or do you just use >one piece and wrap it around? One piece, and wrap around. > See, I said it was a silly question. Nah. The only silly question is "should I build German over French" to which the obvious answer is HE77 NO! ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:47:20 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: <000701c21156$e531c8e0$6173fea9@s0024008072> > > Tamiya sells lead foil sheets > > Just buy a quality wine and keep the lead foil from the neck - it's > easier to find and a lot more enjoyable than Tamiya... > > Dave Fletcher AHA!! But some of us don't drink - so it's Mr. Tamiya, or a return to bad habits... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:43:16 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) Message-ID: <022f01c21156$526055e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Not silly at all I applied decal tapes wrapping around the strut. If the decal is to be applied perpendicular to the strut axis, it's OK, but if you need to glue it slanted (as in the case with nieuport V strutters) it's a nightmare to keep it in the desired angle. A solution to this, AFIK is to let dry the overlong decal strip to just one side. Then fold the decal AWAY from the strut, so the segment over the opposite side of the strut has the same angle, then apply decal solution to it and once dry, trim the ends to both sides of the strut. Touch up with a little decal solution if needed. Sounds more complicated than it is D. ----- Original Message ----- From: bill anthony > A silly question, but when you use decal, do you > apply two piece, one on each side? or do you just use > one piece and wrap it around? > See, I said it was a silly question. > Thanks, > Bill Anthony > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:55:11 EDT From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: I found original message: From: "Clem Jensen" Subject: lead Vulcan Lead in Milwaukee sells lead from .001 to .875 in widths from 10 inches to 4 feet. Their phone is 1 800 932 LEAD Clem ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:15:37 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: Lead Foil sheets? Message-ID: "Some one on e the list posted a 1 800 number for a company that sells Thin lead sheets, could who ever did so please send me the number again? I swear I saved it but like my model table this computer desk eats everything I put on it. Thanks Best Regards, Jon" Jon- FWIW, I just use the foil from cheap bottles of sparkling wine that you can get at any grocery store. KA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:24:52 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) Message-ID: <001e01c2116c$e661bb60$afd832d2@default> Of course, the sensible answer is to build British.... ;-) All the Best Neil E (PC-10 Rules!) ----- Original Message ----- From: > > See, I said it was a silly question. > > Nah. The only silly question is "should I build German over French" to which the obvious answer is HE77 NO! ;-) > > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:50:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? Message-ID: <009001c21170$df350b40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Bill Alberto said it much better than me. in the cockpit itself you'll be seeing little fabric, but wood (probably a composite plywood) Check Alberto's model on the Gallery, is the best reference. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:52 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? > Bill, > > I am sure you know that the Ni11 cockpit was 90% ply covered, as the forward > part of the fuselage (including the cockpit decking) was covered with wooden > panels, just as the complete rear fuselage decking. > Wooden panels were covered with fabric externally. > > I agree with Diego as far as the fabric colour is concerned: off-white will > be fine in my opinion. > > All the very best, > > Alberto Casirati > > > > ------------------- Original Message ------------------------- > > Hello, > I plan on painting the inside of my 1.72 Nieuport > 11. > But am wondering, what color would the fabric on the > inside be for a French Nieuport 11. Would aged white > be fine to represent the CDL on the inside, or if the > plane was painted yellowish, would the CDL on the > inside be the color too?? > Thanks, > Bill Anthony > > > > --- > [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai > software antivirus e antispamming di > Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? Message-ID: <20020611182818.56703.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> Actually, I did use his as a reference. I understand that the there was a large section of wood. I was just wondering about the area behind the cockpit. (should have been specific) Wanted to know if the outside CDL color was the same for the inside and out. Thanks again, Bill A. --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > Bill > Alberto said it much better than me. in the cockpit > itself you'll be seeing > little fabric, but wood (probably a composite > plywood) Check Alberto's model > on the Gallery, is the best reference. > HTH > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:52 AM > Subject: [WWI] Re: N.11 interior CDL color?? > > > > Bill, > > > > I am sure you know that the Ni11 cockpit was 90% > ply covered, as the > forward > > part of the fuselage (including the cockpit > decking) was covered with > wooden > > panels, just as the complete rear fuselage > decking. > > Wooden panels were covered with fabric externally. > > > > I agree with Diego as far as the fabric colour is > concerned: off-white > will > > be fine in my opinion. > > > > All the very best, > > > > Alberto Casirati > > > > > > > > ------------------- Original Message > ------------------------- > > > > Hello, > > I plan on painting the inside of my 1.72 Nieuport > > 11. > > But am wondering, what color would the fabric on > the > > inside be for a French Nieuport 11. Would aged > white > > be fine to represent the CDL on the inside, or if > the > > plane was painted yellowish, would the CDL on the > > inside be the color too?? > > Thanks, > > Bill Anthony > > > > > > > > --- > > [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai > > software antivirus e antispamming di > > Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:48:12 +0000 From: "Kozlowski Michal" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Struts (For Matt B.) Message-ID: >On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:30:27 -0400 (EDT), bill anthony Nah. The only > >silly question is "should I build German over French" to which the > >obvious answer is HE77 NO! ;-) >Matt Bittner So I'll ask this: should I build 1/48 over 1/72? It is said that 1/48 models have better details and are more accurate, but are more expensive. I'm a newbie here, so I need an advice. Regards Tony _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:48:54 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: N.11 interior wood Message-ID: I know the French used strips of poplar to create ply, at least on later Nieuports: http://www.nasm.si.edu/nasm/garber/nieuport/nieuport_skin.htm#technique Did the Italians use traditional sheets of ply? Gotta get something started... the list is dead! Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4468 **********************