WWI Digest 4457 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) re: British Post WWI Aircraft in Africa (slightly OT) by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 2) re: Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 3) re: Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 4) RE: models of the past by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: New additions by "Dave Burke" 6) Re: British Post WWI Aircraft in Africa (slightly OT) by Steve Cox 7) RE: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? by "Diego Fernetti" 8) new ford T by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? by "Lance Krieg" 10) Re: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? by Michael Fletcher 11) Re: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? by "Diego Fernetti" 12) scratchbuilder's curse by "Diego Fernetti" 13) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by PetersList@aol.com 14) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Diego Fernetti" 15) RE: French Strutter quandaries by "Nigel Rayner" 16) RE: Site updates by "Nigel Rayner" 17) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Dale Sebring" 18) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Michael Kendix" 19) RE: shiny side up by Al Superczynski 20) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 21) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 22) Re: New additions by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 23) Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse by Dave Fleming 24) RE: French Strutter quandaries by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Brad Gossen" 27) Re: Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse by "Graham Hunter" 28) Modeling Boyfriend was Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit by "Brent Theobald" 29) Dr. Tom's DH2 by "Mordecai Sheftall" 30) Lewis Ammo drums- what color? by "Bill & Kaja Michaels" 31) Re: Dr. Tom's DH2 by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: DH2 by Morg17ms@aol.com 33) Re: Lewis Ammo drums- what color? by Morg17ms@aol.com 34) Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV by Crawford Neil 35) re: Modeling Boyfriend was Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 36) RE: Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV by "Diego Fernetti" 37) Re: DH2 by "Diego Fernetti" 38) Re: Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:12:17 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: British Post WWI Aircraft in Africa (slightly OT) Message-ID: <010801c20be2$99d6c9a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! If you (or your friend) like bog ones, some Vickers Vimy were used in Africa and Mid-East by Brits in '20s. There is decent (but old and simple) model of Vimy available from Eastern Express. G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:16:23 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit Message-ID: <015c01c20be3$2c2ca400$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Jon! Don't worry! Maybe Chris can join our list? :-))))))))))))))) G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:19:27 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit Message-ID: <016201c20be3$9b31a940$0200a8c0@grzesiek> BTW, long time ago Brent wrote a mail about a boy who was lurking for Brent's daughter/models (Brent wasn't sure for what). Dear Brent! What was the end of that story? :-) G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:34:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: models of the past Message-ID: In a message dated 6/3/02 4:57:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: << but as long as I didn't mess up any school pants, she never carried out any of her threats. >> Yes......"school pants".... I had forgotten the motherly mystique and fascination with "school pants". These days I can just wipe paint directly on my leg since long pants have become obsolete in my world! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:58:18 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: New additions Message-ID: <000b01c20be9$07877ac0$6173fea9@s0024008072> Shane said... > Actually, the additions to the gallery over the last month are *frequently* > jaw dropping > > Sometimes I'm glad to be out of circulation, cos if I keep company with > lunatics like Tom P and Dr Tom, Diego and DB, Alberto, Andreas, Paul T, ET, > the prolific Bill Arnold and whoever I've forgotten (sorry) who have > lightened my days over the last month I might do something silly > myself...... Hey, I resemble that remark! BTW, did you go to the Rogues Gallery? I sent Allan a pic of me on the new chopper - just click on my mug and you get the whole enchilada. Hee Heeee!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:14:28 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: British Post WWI Aircraft in Africa (slightly OT) Message-ID: Twelve DH9 went to British Somaliland in 1920. At least one, D3117, was used as an air ambulance. regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Eric Hotz > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:56:04 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] British Post WWI Aircraft in Africa (slightly OT) > > Hello to all, > > A friend of mine is putting together a 25mm scale miniatures display > for an upcoming convention. He's into miniatures in a big way and > has a large collection of Colonial period miniatures. This year he > wants to put together a display showing British Colonial troops in > central Africa around 1920-22 and wants to know what aircraft were > the British using in their "not so important" colonial areas. I > thought the Brisfit was used in most places, but he feels this is too > late of an aircraft and was leaning more towards the Morane-Saulnier > Type L aircraft in 1/48th scale (scratch built or plastic kit -- if > possible). He wants a two-seater type aircraft for his display if > possible. > > What was the typical British aircraft for these regions at this time, > or was is a hodgepodge of types? > > > Take care... > > --- > > Eric Hotz > > +-----------------------------------------------+----------------------------- > -------------------+ > HOTZ ARTWORKS-ILLUSTRATION & DESIGN http://www.erichotz.com > Phone: 604.619.6925 / e-mail: mailto:erichotz@direct.ca > Address: Suite 110-19567 Fraser Hwy, Surrey, BC V3S 9A4 Canada > The Larry Leadhead Comic Strip: http://www.larryleadhead.org > +-----------------------------------------------+----------------------------- > -------------------+ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:29:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <007701c20bf5$cfd91a40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You have a jinx! As i finish writing my post, I was "invited" into a boring meeting that finished just 5 minutes ago! AAAAAGHH! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? > Ooops... by the time I'd typed an answer and posted it, that > hard-working Argentinian had scooped me. Well, at least our answers > agreed! > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:32:08 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: new ford T Message-ID: <007d01c20bf6$22bd8020$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey! Just saw in NKR hobbies that RPM released a 1/35 Ford T cargo truck in tow versions! No figures included, unfortunately. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:36:45 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? Message-ID: Diego: "... was "invited" into a boring meeting that finished just 5 minutes ago! AAAAAGHH!" Amigo, you must decline such invitations... but perhaps you played that Bingo game I sent you, and so the time wasn't totally lost? Sorry... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:41:21 -0400 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <3CFD09D1.CDAA5018@rogers.com> Given the number of altimeters that have survived I'd suspect they were quite common while airspeed indicators seem to be a rarity. An average pilot would know if he was too slow or too fast - but if the weather deteriorated an altimeter and compass would be almost essential. Some pilots still had the pre-war superstitions about compasses spinning by themselves (pilots getting into spins in clouds not believing what the compass was saying etc) so they were somewhat optional. A watch was a common fitting and the pilots had to be careful to remove them when they left the aircraft or it would disappear - being a quality government issue item much in demand. Even in 1/48th it would be hard to tell any of them apart (aside from the compass) and I can't recall seeing anything that looking obviously like a watch (maybe someone else has?) so it probably had an even more buckshee mounting than the other instruments. Tachometers were extensively used as many rotaries would be brought up to the desired rpm and then the mixture set - but an experienced pilot should eventually have been able to do that from the engine sound. The pulsator is on the left in the N.11 just ahead of the throttle and mixture controls and looks like a glass tube from an old tv. Some had a map spread over the middle but it is impossible to tell how they were attached - possibly with clamps? The dials were usually grouped to either the left or the right, or a few on each side, but there were exceptions (1 RNAS machine had three dials across the middle, mounted ahead of the bar and as high as possible and an Italian machine (A on fuselage) had a single instrument visible in the middle. I have yet to find an 11 with an obvious panel though some N.16's did had them. Mike Fl. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:54:01 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: How many gauges in a Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <00c501c20bf9$30dac0c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike "the-one-without-appendix" wrote: > Some had a map spread over the middle but it is impossible to tell > how they were attached - possibly with clamps? I saw two types of these devices. One is like a box with two knobs to "roll" the map, but there was one simpler that was a simple glass (or celluloid) cover attached with hooks to a small wooden plank and the map folded and sandwiched inside. I also saw a smal leather pouch with a transparent cover to be hung or tied to the pilot clothes, but I don't know if that was usual. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:57:34 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <00f301c20bf9$b01c4480$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Alberto met the fate of all scratchbuilders... http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:06:29 EDT From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <15c.e4fa971.2a2e69b5@aol.com> In a message dated 04/06/02 20:00:37 GMT Daylight Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 >> I wouldn't worry too much Diego. Aeroclub's future releases lists are somewhat open ended. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:12:30 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <014f01c20bfb$c5cdf060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Me, worry? (darn the lists also has the 1/72 Eduard Hanriot and I tought that they were just around the corner!) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: scratchbuilder's curse > In a message dated 04/06/02 20:00:37 GMT Daylight Time, > dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > > << http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 >> > > I wouldn't worry too much Diego. Aeroclub's future releases lists are > somewhat open ended. > > cheers > > Peter L > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:14:59 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: French Strutter quandaries Message-ID: <000001c20bfc$1ec6bbc0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Matt wrote: >Turns out we know *less* about French Strutters than before. It >appears the pilot's seat was made out of aluminum - painted >*blue* - with a leather seat cushion. Sounds really interesting. And I'm feeling good as I have an unstarted Flashback Strutter which is just getting more interesting all the time. But may I ask where all this new research is coming from? Is it the Memorial Flight? I saw the comments on the Strutter aluminium cover on the site. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:15:02 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Site updates Message-ID: <000101c20bfc$2082c3a0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi all, Some great additions to the site. DB's and Diego's Albatri are very nice indeed, but it seems that everyone called Tom is off to AMS la-la land. Tom P's Lohner and Dr. Tom's DH2 are just amazing. IIRC Dr. Tom is a waterworks specialist. If I ever need surgery in this area, I think I'll get him to add an OT 1/48 fuel pump - I'm sure he could actually get it to work.... Great work guys. More inspiration. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:08:26 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <000201c20bfb$4f8665e0$fc9dfea9@RDS> D said....... > Alberto met the fate of all scratchbuilders... > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 > D. How true, but we know this kit will not equal the talents of the good Doctor! ;-) Dale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:15:23 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: >From: PetersList@aol.com >In a message dated 04/06/02 20:00:37 GMT Daylight Time, >dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > ><< http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 >> > >I wouldn't worry too much Diego. Aeroclub's future releases lists are >somewhat open ended. Further, I cannot imagine that they would release anything that would build up into the type of model that Alberto made. Weren't A-Model supposed to be doing a Nieuport IV or was it a figment of Matt's imagination?:) Michael Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:21:45 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: shiny side up Message-ID: <7k4qfucl4svltcitiv1uuav282r2k4khpm@4ax.com> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:38:05 -0400 (EDT), Neil wrote: >Heres a good article about foiling: > http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral/Foil.html That's pretty much the way I do it, too, and why I chose to upload that excellent article. One thing I do differently is to lay the foil (adhesive side down) on a sheet of waxed paper once the adhesive turns clear. The foil will then be protected from dust and debris and remain usable for months, and can be treated just like commercial brands such as Bare Metal foil. HTH, Al ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 20:35:55 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <1023219355.3cfd169b86c15@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting PetersList@aol.com: > In a message dated 04/06/02 20:00:37 GMT Daylight Time, > dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > > << http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 >> > > I wouldn't worry too much Diego. Aeroclub's future releases lists are > somewhat open ended. > Wonder if this will turn up before the FE8 or the Short 184 ? I suspect it might. Now, if only John would release more of his unreleased vacforms....... Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 20:38:36 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <1023219516.3cfd173c934e2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Diego Fernetti : > Alberto met the fate of all scratchbuilders... > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 > D. > > Sigh ! For a moment I thought this was an Aeroclub kit - it's not, it's just another mention of the Amodel kit - check out the number, Aeroclub have 'K***' codes. Aeroclub are really a small model shop these days ! Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 20:41:04 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: New additions Message-ID: <1023219664.3cfd17d04ac76@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Dave Burke : > > Hey, I resemble that remark! BTW, did you go to the Rogues Gallery? I > sent > Allan a pic of me on the new chopper - just click on my mug and you get > the > whole enchilada. Now that is a motasickle ! Like the minamilist framing - almost like a Bleriot XI (mandatory OT content) Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 20:46:19 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <1023219979.3cfd190b57df4@netmail.pipex.net> Notice how Aeroclub mention the almost mythical Eastern Express Nie kits - and give them numbers !! http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/newparts.html http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=EE72170 dave F ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:05:01 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: French Strutter quandaries Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:13:38 -0400 (EDT), Nigel Rayner wrote: > Sounds really interesting. And I'm feeling good as I have an unstarted > Flashback Strutter which is just getting more interesting all the time. But > may I ask where all this new research is coming from? Is it the Memorial > Flight? I saw the comments on the Strutter aluminium cover on the site. Correct. We're talking factory manuals, here. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:05:22 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:59:20 -0400 (EDT), Diego Fernetti wrote: > Alberto met the fate of all scratchbuilders... > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=A7266 That's the Amodel kit, not yet released but listed all over the place. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:13:05 -0700 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <002701c20c1d$6c1b2b60$f9e3fea9@bradgossen> Yes, along with the CSM 1/48 A.W. FK8 !!!! This sort of cruel, demented, evil, mental torture should not be allowed !!! Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse > > Notice how Aeroclub mention the almost mythical Eastern Express Nie kits - and > give them numbers !! > > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/newparts.html > > http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/p.html?c=EE72170 > > dave F > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:46:54 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Re: Better News ! was Re: scratchbuilder's curse Message-ID: <000001c20c08$f717d0c0$770101c0@ghunter> < To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Modeling Boyfriend was Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit Message-ID: Howdy! >BTW, long time ago Brent wrote a mail about a boy who was lurking for >Brent's daughter/models (Brent wasn't sure for what). > >Dear Brent! >What was the end of that story? The boy still calls once in awhile. I don't think he really meant it. I think the idea of being stuck at a table with me, my wife and daughter scared the heck out of him. Originally I thought it was his idea. Now I believe it to have blossomed from my daughter's fertile imagination. It's all pretty much over at this point. It has given my wife many moments of pleasure. She just loves to taunt me when I start a modeling session. "Should I call T.J.? I'm sure he'd love to come and join us." Grrrr! Model time alone or with son = good Model time with wife and annoying punk = very bad! Honestly, being a parent is more fun than I ever thought it would be. Later! Brent nb: the endless Gotha... Also, comparison build between the original release and new release Albatros D.V from Eduard. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:09:26 +0900 From: "Mordecai Sheftall" To: Subject: Dr. Tom's DH2 Message-ID: <003401c20c25$46614be0$154f07d3@computer> Just got back from visiting Dr. Tom's DH2 in-progress page. A quote by a French couturier in an interview a few years ago came to mind. The reporter was asking the guy to explain his creative process, and he replied "I don't have one -- I'm too busy following Yves Saint Laurent". That's how I feel about my OT modeling re: the breathtaking work of Herr Professor Doktor Tom Morgan. Doctor Tom, you are both 800-lb gorilla AND master teacher, both humbling and inspiring. In other words, a maestro! I'm especially blown away by that engine. Adjectives fail me at this point! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:14:01 -0400 From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lewis Ammo drums- what color? Message-ID: <3CFD3BA9.29314.18B617B@localhost> What color should the ammo drum used on the Lewis gun be? Should it be the same color as the body of the gun, or a different color? TIA! -Bill Check out my US Coast Guard subjects model list at: http://www.tiac.net/users/billkaja/kitlist.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:18:33 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dr. Tom's DH2 Message-ID: <31.27e3c0f8.2a2ecef9@aol.com> Dear Dr. Tom You are one sick #*&@#**+% for showing us all up in this manner. Just what I need- somebody raising that bar another 8 notches. Exquisite........... RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:50:25 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: DH2 Message-ID: <95.1d764ce9.2a2ed671@aol.com> --part1_95.1d764ce9.2a2ed671_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bucky - thanks for the complement! Graham Hunter told me I'd have to put vaseline on my ears to get my head through the door! Just finished reading your very well photographed article on aluminum foil in FSM. Is it really as easy as you make it look? Now I won't be afraid to tackle an E.III or a Nieuport cowl! Tom Morgan --part1_95.1d764ce9.2a2ed671_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bucky - thanks for the complement!  Graham Hunter told me I'd have to put vaseline on my ears to get my head through the door!  Just finished reading your very well photographed article on aluminum foil in FSM.  Is it really as easy as you make it look?  Now I won't be afraid to tackle an E.III or a Nieuport cowl!

Tom Morgan --part1_95.1d764ce9.2a2ed671_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:51:36 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lewis Ammo drums- what color? Message-ID: <172.947f4e1.2a2ed6b8@aol.com> --part1_172.947f4e1.2a2ed6b8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the various photos I've seen, including recent color shots from British museums, the drums are much darker - look almost as if they are painted black. Tom Morgan --part1_172.947f4e1.2a2ed6b8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the various photos I've seen, including recent color shots from British museums, the drums are much darker - look almost as if they are painted black.

Tom Morgan --part1_172.947f4e1.2a2ed6b8_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:43:23 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV Message-ID: I just got the Toko kit of this from Dale, it looks very nice. So what does the list think of this kit? The lozenge looks a bit odd? That Siemens Schuckert is one heck of a nice looking plane. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:32:32 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Modeling Boyfriend was Part 4 Saga of the Missing B.M. DH.2 Kit Message-ID: <004801c20c73$eb892040$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > Model time alone or with son = good > Model time with wife and annoying punk = very bad! Hehehehehehe!!!! Cheers! G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 06:52:20 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV Message-ID: <005901c20c76$afb76060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I like it, but is reported to have some shortcomings, specially on the wings. I would add a more complete interior detailing, but now, that could be just the way I'm wired. D. PS: The lozenge is ODD! ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:44 AM Subject: [WWI] Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV > I just got the Toko kit of this from Dale, it looks very nice. > So what does the list think of this kit? The lozenge looks a bit odd? > That Siemens Schuckert is one heck of a nice looking plane. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 06:54:31 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: DH2 Message-ID: <007d01c20c76$fd5e86e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Doc > Now I won't be afraid to tackle an E.III or a > Nieuport cowl! Please try! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 09:55:45 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Siemens-Schuckert DIII/IV Message-ID: >From: Crawford Neil >I just got the Toko kit of this from Dale, it looks very nice. >So what does the list think of this kit? The lozenge looks a bit odd? >That Siemens Schuckert is one heck of a nice looking plane. I'm in the middle of building it. I am attempting to incorporate the Part photoetch and the Hawkeye resin "improvement" to do a mid/late model (no headrest) D.III. Here's my view of the kit and the other stuff so far. 1. The kit itself is fine but there are a couple of issues. One is the engine being a little under-detailed - the Hawkeye things solves that. 2. The top wing is a little small - the Hawkeye thing should've solved that but mine was warped (so was the one bought by one of the French gents on the list), so I'm dubious. The spinner and horizontal tail bits in the Hawkeye thing are definitely good though. 3. The kit's lozenge decals are way past dodgy - get yourself some A/G 5-colour or Eagle Strike if A/G are not available. 4. The Part p/e has some nice stuff. I don't have the skill to use some of it though; e.g. they give a replacement for the underside louvre openings butyou have to cut away the kit's ones - good luck! There's a lot of excellent interior stuff on the Part p/e that I'll defintely use though. If I were prioritizing about which things really needed fxing from the kit, I would just replace the decals - if you want to add details, you could probably do that without aftermarket, although some of the bits on the Part p/e are really convenient to have. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4457 **********************