WWI Digest 4442 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: slumping badly by Crawford Neil 2) Re: Silly Putty Question again.. by Ross Moorhouse 3) Re: slumping badly by Crawford Neil 4) RE: My prop won't spin! by "Pedro N. Soares" 5) Re: Slumping badly by Crawford Neil 6) RE: Some Future was questions by Crawford Neil 7) RE: My prop won't spin! by Jan Vihonen 8) RE: My prop won't spin! by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Today in history - the Italian front by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 10) RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! by "Diego Fernetti" 11) Talc and future? by Crawford Neil 12) RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! by Crawford Neil 13) A stunning update by "Matt Bittner" 14) RE: Talc and future? by "Diego Fernetti" 15) RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: Talc and future? by Jan Vihonen 17) RE: A stunning update by Crawford Neil 18) RE: My prop won't spin! by "Pedro N. Soares" 19) RE: A stunning update by "Pedro N. Soares" 20) RE: A stunning update by "Diego Fernetti" 21) Re: slumping badly by Larry Marshall 22) RE: My stash by Crawford Neil 23) List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Mark Shannon" 24) And one more thing by "Mark Shannon" 25) RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 26) RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Diego Fernetti" 27) RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by Crawford Neil 28) RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by Jan Vihonen 29) Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by Jan Vihonen 30) Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Mark C" 31) Interior of Nieuport 11? by bill anthony 32) R: Interior of Nieuport 11? by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 33) Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 34) Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? by bill anthony 35) Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Mark Shannon" 36) Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by Crawford Neil 37) Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 38) Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? by Crawford Neil 39) Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix by "Mark Shannon" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:59:12 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: slumping badly Message-ID: Go for the Dornier because it's nearly finished, oh you've already done that, than carry on Captain. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:03:01 +1000 From: Ross Moorhouse To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Silly Putty Question again.. Message-ID: <3CF355D5.8090709@bigpond.net.au> So most here think that Play Doh is better. I have some of this in the fridge. Well not me but the kids. I hate the smell of the stuff but will have to have a look at how well it works for making molds. What I want to mold is another Albatros radiator so I can model some that severed in the mid east with their twin radiators. @ Neil if he reads this. Lilly is going back to school tomorrow. The first 4 hours she was awake yesterday proved that she was getting better. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:01:41 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: slumping badly Message-ID: > > Speaking of Spads, how bad (good?) are the Revell Spad XIIIs? > It seems that > Squadron has some and I'm wondering if it's worth ordering a couple. > Excellent, the best 1/69 Spad kits available;-) Well worth ordering a dozen. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:01:36 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: My prop won't spin! Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301AA7D4A@TUFAO> James, I've been using humbrol's satin varnish but I dilute it strongly with white spirit 20% varnish to 80% thinners. this way it works ok for me, since it dries to the touch in a matter of hours. I also spray it, don't brush it. If you brush it right out of the bottle or dilute it with humbrol thinners, I've heard people saying it'll never dry. Lately i've found mold in some of my models (the place where live is quite humid in the winter) but that probably has nothing to do with the varnish coat... FWIW Pedro (who hasn't touched a kit in over a month..... ;-(...... > > One more question - the Humbrol clear satin coat stuff in the square > bottles - does it ever dry? > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:03:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Slumping badly Message-ID: Larry : While new to plastics, I just > assumed you guys did > them in an orderly, one at a time fashion > Yes, I do! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:05:55 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Some Future was questions Message-ID: I had a problem mixing Future, Tamiya flat base and Ajax window-cleaner. Probably because of the ammoniac in the Ajax, next time (if I dare) I'll thin with water, or would Tamiya thinner work? > -----Original Message----- > From: Laskodi [mailto:laskodi@launchnet.com] > Sent: den 28 maj 2002 03:37 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Some Future was questions > > > << can't use Future > with > Tamiya paints (which wouldn't surprise me even a little bit) > but someone > just > recently reported mixing it with Tamiya flat base so who knows>>> > Tamiya Flat Base is not a paint. You cannot "paint" it on, it > is an agent > that mixes with paint to produce a flat sheen. It is > basically talcum powder > suspended in a carrier and it does mix quite well with > Future. Tamiya paints > on the other hand are latex based acrylics that do not mix > well with Future. > By varying the ratios of flat base to Future you can get > every sheen from > high gloss to dead flat (and everything between!). For dead flat I use > between 25-30% flat base, for semi-gloss between 5-10% flat > base. I never > exceed 30% flat base (some people use up to 50%) because the > finish tends to > "speck up" (little specks in the finish) up on me. > YMMV > -----Bob > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:24:53 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: My prop won't spin! Message-ID: <3CF35AF5.4E95ABD@helsinki.fi> James, > One more question - the Humbrol clear satin coat stuff in the square > bottles - does it ever dry? Mine is still slightly tacky after a couple of > months. Bad news is, that you may have to wait several months more. An ot plane I finished a year ago with Humbrol Clear Matt took more than half a year to dry to the touch. I thinned it with white spirts. Someone mentionned not long ago on the list that you should use cellulose thinners for these Humbrol Clear varnishes. Haven't tried out yet, myself. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:25:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: My prop won't spin! Message-ID: <00bd01c20632$0af428a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi James! > Sorry for my slow response I am in Digest mode. No worries, you still are almost a day ahead from us in Argentina! People here complain to have to be awaken on the wee hours of the morning to watch the World Cup. > The whole episode has caused me to ponder on the value of major revisions to > a kit to achieve greater accuracy when all takes is some stupid mistake to > compromise the whole ideal. Well, excuse me if I got into philosophy by the rear window, but many things are like that: The higher you reach, the harder the fall. But sure you had fun while building the nice details! > My wife says I am being silly and she > thinks it looks great and that is the main thing. I guess the best thing is > to move on and do better next time. She's right I guess, but it takes to be a modeler to understand the joy of a smal, accurate instrument panel and the grief of a silvering decal. I'm sure your next model will make you forget the sour propeller. > I need something simpler to get a quick win, something accurate out of the > box to get some instant gratification, maybe an Eduard Dr1 . . . Good idea! > One more question - the Humbrol clear satin coat stuff in the square > bottles - does it ever dry? It never dries. I hate the b***dy stuff. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:27:15 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Today in history - the Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F079F@SERVER1> 28-05-1916: the Italian army stop the Austro-Hungarian “Strafexpedition”. 28-05-1917: the tenth Isonzo Battle ends with the Italian conquest of the Kuk and Vodicie mountains and of some territories in the Carso area. Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:38:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! Message-ID: <010501c20633$d1fb47c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey! What a nice website! You've found a gold streak, Martín. And there is a set of drawings of the Twin Jenny that someone was looking on the list some days ago! Check the WW1 area on the website. That's where is at D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Munoz > I don't speak Russian at all, but I know an online translator capable of > doing Russian/English translation (among many others combinations). > Could help... > http://www.translate.ru/eng/srvurl.asp > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Héctor AFFLITTO ECHAGüE > > http://www.aviacherteg.narod.ru/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:38:15 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Talc and future? Message-ID: Somebody just mentioned that Tamiya flat base is just talc mixed with a fluid medium. So would Future mixed with talc work as matt varnish? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:41:33 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! Message-ID: I tried and gave up waiting, seemed very slow to me? /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:41:53 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: A stunning update Message-ID: Alberto Casirati sent in images of his scratchbuilt Nieuport IVM. Awesome! Completely stunning! Actually, those adjectives don't do it justice. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:43:45 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Talc and future? Message-ID: <011401c20634$8ad24fa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I dunno. But sure it will avoid to chafe your model D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: [WWI] Talc and future? > > Somebody just mentioned that Tamiya flat base is just > talc mixed with a fluid medium. So would Future mixed with talc > work as matt varnish? > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:46:11 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! Message-ID: <011a01c20634$e2122060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> It's worth the wait. Maybe it depends on the time of the day you're trying to reach it. Here only nerds like me are in front of a screen. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Magnificent Web!!!!!! > I tried and gave up waiting, seemed very slow to me? > /Neil C. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:51:18 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Talc and future? Message-ID: <3CF36126.87B8BB1@helsinki.fi> > Somebody just mentioned that Tamiya flat base is just > talc mixed with a fluid medium. So would Future mixed with talc > work as matt varnish? I was told that talcum powder is also used in Humbrol matt varnishes (both the tin and bottle types), so one should think it's viable. FWIW, Jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:49:38 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: A stunning update Message-ID: Oooh!, isn't that lovely. Well done Alberto, we expect the best from you, and you always deliver! Thanks Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 28 maj 2002 12:45 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] A stunning update > > > Alberto Casirati sent in images of his scratchbuilt Nieuport IVM. > Awesome! Completely stunning! Actually, those adjectives don't > do it justice. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:50:36 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: My prop won't spin! Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301AE69A3@TUFAO> Someone > mentionned > not long ago on the list that you should use cellulose thinners for > these Humbrol Clear varnishes. Haven't tried out yet, myself. > > Jan Jan. It was I who did it. As a matter of fact, I said in the previous message that I dilute the thing with white spirit, that is not so, I just got carried away while writing. What I use are thinners from the hardware store and in general there are 2 types around here: normal cellulose thinners (that can be used provided you are spraying, not brush painting and you don't let the sprayed varnish poodle on the model surface) and what we call synthetic thinners, these being what I generaly use. These are much "softer" than cellulose thinners, are probably white spirit based, but still they bite into plastic. For instance they will make a transparent piece of plastic like a canopy, milky white. So I guess there is some strong agent like xylene or toluene (sp) also present in the mix. I'm not very sure about these being usable for brush painting, but for airbrushing they work just fine and will dry in a couple of hours. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:00:23 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: A stunning update Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301AE69BF@TUFAO> Absolutely Awesome. Alberto, you're a continuous source of inspiration (and envy...). Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de Maio de 2002 11:45 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] A stunning update > > > Alberto Casirati sent in images of his scratchbuilt Nieuport IVM. > Awesome! Completely stunning! Actually, those adjectives don't > do it justice. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:06:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: A stunning update Message-ID: <013401c20637$bf785ee0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Truly awesome. Alberto makes me ashamed of my own modelling, and at the same time, he inspires us to try harder. Well done, Maestro! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: [WWI] A stunning update > Alberto Casirati sent in images of his scratchbuilt Nieuport IVM. > Awesome! Completely stunning! Actually, those adjectives don't > do it justice. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:08:31 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: slumping badly Message-ID: <200205280708.31211.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Excellent, the best 1/69 Spad kits available;-) > Well worth ordering a dozen. I'm sufficiently at war with myself over scale. Adding another to the mix would scramble what's left of my brain for sure. On the other hand, the wings on the Academy Spad, that look more like corugated metal than fabric wings, didn't do much for me either :-) Maybe all these companies just know how to get to Matt and they're all sitting back and saying stuff like "Hey, maybe if we put a P&W radial in our new N11 kit we can get a rise out of Matt." Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:23:15 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: My stash Message-ID: Between 2 and 300 I think, never counted properly though. Nearly all 1/72, except for a few 1/144 airliners, and some other odd scales like 1/48. And with my rate of finishing, that means 150 years of building pleasure, which I can increase by buying more! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:05:30 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: Future and the list. One thing about mixing talc with future - most easily found talcum powders are perfumed, even baby powder. The 'unscented' does not mean 'unperfumed' it means they have selected a perfume that people associate with a neutral unscented smell. I do not know how Future likes being perfumed in the long run. The biggest problem might be getting a good dispersion of the talcum powder in the future, starting from the dry powder - it's a lot like dissolving cocoa powder in cold milk or flour or corn starch in a sauce, there is a trick to it. You need to do a pre-wetting to make a paste, using the smallest amount of liquid at first, and make sure that there is no dry powder. Add more liquid in small amounts, stirring to even consistency between additions. It is easier to start the pre-wetting with a less viscous ( and non-setting) liquid like water, but is not necessary. Acetic acid-based decal solutions will cause a milky discoloration of a future coat when wet. If this is undisturbed, it will dry clear and hard again with no ill effects. It is vulnerable to damage while it is in the milky stage, however. In my experience, this discoloration is less likely to happen if the Future coat has dried for 12 hours or more. I always wonder about those using Future to set decals. What about washing away excess glue? Finally, I was playing around with trying to match a natural gum eraser as a way to match un-carbon blacked rubber tires (tyres, for our U.K. challenged listees). In Humbrol paints, a perfect match is obtained by painting in #24 Matt Trainer Yellow, then over painting in a 1:1 mixture of #26 Khaki and #250 Matt Dessert Sand. This gives the depth of color that you see in natural rubber items. Of course, for a tyre (tire, for our colonially challenged listees) this would then need to be smudged up with grimy black, browns, and grays (greys, grise, grauen, please help with the Spanish Portugese/Brazilian, Italian, and Slavic languages, just to keep everyone straight) to indicate wear. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:07:48 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: And one more thing Message-ID: Testor's clear coats seem to eat acrylic paint finishes much more than any other types of clearcoats. I am not sure of the reason, but IIRC, they may be a mild lacquer base. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:10:38 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: <003501c20649$11b8acd0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > Of course, for a tyre > (tire, for our colonially challenged listees) this would then > need to be smudged up with grimy black, browns, and grays > (greys, grise, grauen, please help with the Spanish > Portugese/Brazilian, Italian, and Slavic languages, just to > keep everyone straight) to indicate wear. Cinza :-) All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:17:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: <000d01c2064a$17014160$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > this would then need to be smudged up with grimy black, browns, and grays (greys, grise, grauen, please help with the Spanish Portugese/Brazilian, Italian, and Slavic languages, just to keep everyone straight) to indicate wear. Gris D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:19:21 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: In swedish grey=grå (that last letter is an A with a small ring above it pronunced O) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:33:29 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: <3CF38729.3E3A8EC5@helsinki.fi> > this would then need to be smudged up with grimy black, browns, and grays > (greys, grise, grauen, please help with the Spanish Portugese/Brazilian, > Italian, and Slavic languages, just to keep everyone straight) to indicate > wear. > Harmaa. That's Finnish. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:36:22 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: <3CF387D6.59345741@helsinki.fi> Oh, and big thank you, Mark for this interesting essay. I will save it for future (no pun intended) reference. > Future and the list. > Jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:37:03 -0400 From: "Mark C" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: Another problem with "DIY" flat bases is the talc's grain size. I very much doubt it's ground finely enough to become invisible when put into solution with the Future. Much better to use a commercial product, I think. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <20020528133658.49848.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Does anyone know where I may find pictures or diagrams of the Nieuport 11 cockpit? Hopefully there are some on the internet? I am considering detailing two 1.72 Eastern Express Nieuport 11s. Or at least making a meager attempt at it. Thanks, Bill Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:44:15 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F07A3@SERVER1> Dear Bill, please reply to this message off-list and I will be pleased to send some scans to you, from the Ni.11 manual. All the very best, Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di bill anthony Inviato: martedì 28 maggio 2002 15.39 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Interior of Nieuport 11? Hello everyone, Does anyone know where I may find pictures or diagrams of the Nieuport 11 cockpit? Hopefully there are some on the internet? I am considering detailing two 1.72 Eastern Express Nieuport 11s. Or at least making a meager attempt at it. Thanks, Bill Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:04:38 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <20020528140438.9A1CD4693C@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:47:18 -0400 (EDT), a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it wrote: >please reply to this message off-list and I will be pleased to send some >scans to you, from the Ni.11 manual. You also "can't do no wrong" by using Alberto's awesome cockpit as a reference. Check it out on his Gallery page on the site. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:17:44 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <20020528141744.61356.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, Actually that was what I thought I would end up doing. : ) Do you think we can get him to write a book on his techniques? Bill A. --- tbittners@sprintmail.com wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:47:18 -0400 (EDT), > a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it wrote: > > >please reply to this message off-list and I will be > pleased to send some > >scans to you, from the Ni.11 manual. > > You also "can't do no wrong" by using Alberto's > awesome cockpit as a reference. Check it out on his > Gallery page on the site. > > > Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:25:31 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: And now I feel bad about leaving our Scandinavian, Dutch, and Finn friends out of the mix. Oof, da? Anyway, I'm just glad we're such an international bunch and have so much fun with that fact. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:32:21 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: Nobody expects you to know what grey is in all the worlds languages Mark! It's enough that you give us these chemical run-downs occasionally. I feel ever so tempted to have a go at the talc/future mix, I bet nobodies thought of that pre-mixing trick before. /Neil C. > > And now I feel bad about leaving our Scandinavian, Dutch, and > Finn friends out of the mix. Oof, da? > > Anyway, I'm just glad we're such an international bunch and > have so much fun with that fact. > > .Mark. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:35:10 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: <20020528143510.0AD7446919@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:19:39 -0400 (EDT), bill anthony wrote: > Actually that was what I thought I would end up >doing. : ) :-) > Do you think we can get him to write a book on his >techniques? All we can do is ask. Alberto? ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:40:32 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: R: Interior of Nieuport 11? Message-ID: Actually, all you need to do is subscribe to Windsock, then you get plenty of Albertos wisdom, and if you hurry up you will also get Lances 2-part article about the Felixstowe. Not to mention all the other contributions from listees, where would Ray be without us, OTOH where would we be without him, or Alberto, I think this is going around in circles! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:45:20 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: List Chemistry and a Humbrol mix Message-ID: Neil Crawford wrote: >Nobody expects you to know what grey is in all the worlds languages Mark! Well, actually, I sing in about three quarters of them, so it's amazing what I pick up. I just sometimes have little cross-linkings and cerebral flatulence episodes. (such as forgetting that the Italian for 'Gray' is 'grigio' - and you don't even need to be multilingual for that one, if you like wine) Actually, I was a little more chagrined at forgetting the places of origin of some of our listees. >It's enough that you give us these chemical run-downs occasionally. >I feel ever so tempted to have a go at the talc/future mix, I bet >nobodies thought of that pre-mixing trick before. aww, shucks, (looking down sheepishly at the boot toe drawing random patterns in the dirt) 'twern't nawthin'. Actually, it is an extrapolation of cooking and blending experience (I make a great roux for my crawfish etouffe and a dyn-o-mite sauce for my General Tsao's Chicken.) .Mark. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4442 **********************