WWI Digest 4431 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: More ... by "Brian Nicklas" 2) RE: Albatros DII (LVG) by "Nigel Rayner" 3) RE:New Windsock by "Nigel Rayner" 4) RE: Albatros DII (LVG) by "Jamie Gagnon" 5) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Laskodi" 6) RE: Albatros DII (LVG) by Todd Hayes 7) Re: lean mixture control by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= 8) Re: lean mixture control by Tom Plesha 9) Today in history - the Italian front by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 10) Re: The hedge hopper by Dave Fleming 11) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by Crawford Neil 12) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by Dave Fleming 13) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 14) Re: The hedge hopper by "Diego Fernetti" 15) RE: Today in history - the Italian front by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Another upload by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Another upload by Crawford Neil 19) RE: Another upload by "Diego Fernetti" 20) RE: Another upload by Crawford Neil 21) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by Crawford Neil 23) RE: Another upload by "Diego Fernetti" 24) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by Crawford Neil 26) RE: Finally Fondling Plastic :-) by Crawford Neil 27) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by Larry Marshall 28) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by Tom Gourdie 29) Thanks Everyone by "NEIL EDDY" 30) Close up lense for model photography? by bill anthony ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:55:25 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: More ... Message-ID: You should see his nose! :-) Matt Bittner ***********************************' As opposed to seeing Matt at all!! :-) :-) -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:05:57 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Albatros DII (LVG) Message-ID: <000401c202a6$03eebf00$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Jamie asked: >There are a couple of the Eduard D.II (LVG) kits in >hobby shops here, I was wondering whether there was any point in getting >someone to order the Profipack for me or just to buy them. Welcome Jamie. Some simple advice - buy them! The first rule of WWI modelling is that if your local plastic pusher has any on topic (OT) plastic, you buy it. You can always get a Profipack kit later as well! You can *never* have too many OT kits! But seriously, I'd go for the non-Profipack Alabtros. I have that, and I don't think the brass will add much to the kit. It has a great interior, with lots of parts included (so no brass needed there). The only parts that would benefit from brass are the Spandau jackets, and of course seat belts. You could either get these separately (I'd order these via mail order while working on the rest of the kit) or live without them. I guess the Profipack markings choices may be more varied. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:12:50 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE:New Windsock Message-ID: <000501c202a6$fa306ee0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Brian asked: >What is the month and issue numbers of this latest? It's May/June 2002, vol 18 no. 3. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:40:07 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: RE: Albatros DII (LVG) Message-ID: <001d01c202aa$ca0953e0$9b127018@ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi Nigel; > Welcome Jamie. Some simple advice - buy them! The first rule of WWI > modelling is that if your local plastic pusher has any on topic (OT) > plastic, you buy it. You can always get a Profipack kit later as well! You > can *never* have too many OT kits! But you can run out of funds with which to buy more kits...... ;-) > But seriously, I'd go for the non-Profipack Alabtros. I have that, and I > don't think the brass will add much to the kit. It has a great interior, > with lots of parts included (so no brass needed there). The only parts that > would benefit from brass are the Spandau jackets, and of course seat belts. > You could either get these separately (I'd order these via mail order while > working on the rest of the kit) or live without them. I guess the Profipack > markings choices may be more varied. This was pretty much what I had been thinking; if the LVG is much the same as primary manufacturer's version, then get two more LVG instead of the Profipack. I do have a copy of the LVG one already and agree with your comments vis a vis quality wholeheartedly. Seatbelts can always be manufactured, and the Spandau jackets are basically irrelevant to these 47 year old eyes. I buy the Profipacks now for the masks, and the huge variety of markings most of them offer. Most photoetched detail is invisible to me unless I wear an optivizor to view my models. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:59:36 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <000b01c202be$46e74a80$1e3819d0@f4hn201> <<<, I was wondering whether there was any point in getting someone to order the Profipack for me or just to buy them.>>> The most significant difference in the D.II's were that all LVG built ones had the fuselage mounted "elephant ear" radiators (since they were really D.I's converted with D.II cabane's) whereas the Albie built ones could have either the wing mounted radiator or the "elephant ears". Therefore with the Profipack version you can build ANY D.II. Not true with the LVG version since it doesn't contain the alternate wing with radiator. In addition, the Profi has a bunch of extra neat stuff, like complete masks, extra decals, and PE (especially for the Spandau's). Personally, I would get the Profi version as I think it is well worth the extra few bucks. YMMV ------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros DII (LVG) Message-ID: <20020524021948.92315.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jamie, Here's a not-so-well-kept list secret: try hobbyshop.cz Listee Lubos Vinar is the proprietor. His prices can't be beat. No credit cards accepted and it takes a while to get your order, but the WW1 selection is extensive. How about $14+ change (before shipping) for an Eduard Albie D.II profi? Todd --- Jamie Gagnon wrote: > Hi Nigel; > > > > Welcome Jamie. Some simple advice - buy them! The > first rule of WWI > > modelling is that if your local plastic pusher has > any on topic (OT) > > plastic, you buy it. You can always get a > Profipack kit later as well! You > > can *never* have too many OT kits! > > But you can run out of funds with which to buy more > kits...... ;-) > > > But seriously, I'd go for the non-Profipack > Alabtros. I have that, and I > > don't think the brass will add much to the kit. It > has a great interior, > > with lots of parts included (so no brass needed > there). The only parts > that > > would benefit from brass are the Spandau jackets, > and of course seat > belts. > > You could either get these separately (I'd order > these via mail order > while > > working on the rest of the kit) or live without > them. I guess the > Profipack > > markings choices may be more varied. > > This was pretty much what I had been thinking; if > the LVG is much the same > as > primary manufacturer's version, then get two more > LVG instead of the > Profipack. > I do have a copy of the LVG one already and agree > with your comments vis a > vis > quality wholeheartedly. Seatbelts can always be > manufactured, and the > Spandau > jackets are basically irrelevant to these 47 year > old eyes. > > I buy the Profipacks now for the masks, and the huge > variety of markings > most > of them offer. Most photoetched detail is invisible > to me unless I wear an > optivizor > to view my models. > > Jamie > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:35:34 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= To: Subject: Re: lean mixture control Message-ID: <00fa01c202d4$1029eaa0$9114e818@fibertel.com.ar> Hey Tom, It has been specially impossible for me to find information about the Hiero 85 HP of 4 Cl,but for analogy with the 6 cilinder's engine that the Milan's politecnic has,it should have only one throttle per cilinder;Is that what you're asking? I would be interested in any information you could get. Martín ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Plesha" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: [WWI] lean mixture control > Hi All- > Does anyone know if the Hiero 4 cylinder inline > engines used a lean mixture control or just a single > throttle control? > TIA > Later > Tom > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:53:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: lean mixture control Message-ID: <20020524035317.45083.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Martin- As I gather info I will share it with you. .. Typically, the non-rotary engines, meaning in-line and radial engines, etc., had along with the throttle control (one control for all cylinders via carburator)a lean mixture control to be able to vary the gas/fuel mixture for altitude, humidity, etc. .. This allowed to compensate the fuel/air mixture for best power/ best fuel economy/etc. .. In addition, it allowed to stop the engine by leaning it out by reducing the fuel going into the engine (fuel starvation)and ensuring that when time to start up again there was no excessive fuel/flooding in the cylinders, nor could the engine be accidently started when "pulling the prop through", because no fuel in the cylinders. .. I'm not sure if the early Hiero engines had that control. If they did, like others with it, then there would be a second lever with a rod going to the engine along with the throttle control. .. I appreciate the help. .. I'm still looking and as I said, if I find anything I will share it with you. .. Thanks again Later Tom .. --- Martín_Héctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAGüE wrote: > > Hey Tom, > > It has been specially impossible for me to find > information about the Hiero > 85 HP of > 4 Cl,but for analogy with the 6 cilinder's engine > that the Milan's > politecnic has,it should have only one throttle per > cilinder;Is that what > you're asking? > I would be interested in any information you could > get. > > Martín > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Plesha" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:54 PM > Subject: [WWI] lean mixture control > > > > Hi All- > > Does anyone know if the Hiero 4 cylinder inline > > engines used a lean mixture control or just a > single > > throttle control? > > TIA > > Later > > Tom > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:44:47 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Today in history - the Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F0791@SERVER1> 24th May 1915: Italy declare war on Austria-Hungary. Italian troops march towards the Isonzo river. Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:35:37 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: The hedge hopper Message-ID: <1022225737.3ceded49f3f45@netmail.pipex.net> Diego & Others, Told you I had this - from the official 75th Anniversary history of 111 Squadron, Captain Drummond's Nieuport had serial B3597, which makles it a 'vanilla' Nie 17. The history has no photos specifically of Drummond's machine, but has another shot of a 111 Nie 17 - appears to be overall aluminium with no Squadron markings. The article aslo has a copy of the combat report, and comments from the then Recording Officer (Col) Swinburne. He says he counted over 300 bullet holes on the Nie, and that it had 'about one third of a 120hp Rotary Le Rhone' He also tells how Drummond ran out of ammo and resorted to throwing empty ammo drums 'in the hope that they'd foul a Hun prop!'. Drummond reports he had to land as he coudln't get over a hill - Swinburne tells how there are no hills over 300ft in that area. Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:53:08 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: I think there is a Karlström drawing in there. Around here Karlström is more admired for the volume of his work and the aviation historical heritage that his work is to Swedish historians, rather than complete accuracy. I've heard that he tends towards making aircraft look better than they really did, a nice trait. Also heard that of his magnificent volumes of Swedish Air Force drawings the later ones are much better because some of the Swedish aviation historians (Anders Bruun for instance) have corrected them. I don't like to say anything unkind about Karlström because he's a great guy, but do check against photos. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: NEIL EDDY [mailto:se5a@iprimus.com.au] > Sent: den 23 maj 2002 18:23 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > > > HI Lance and Everyone; > > I just had a look through my copy of Scale Aircraft Drawings > - World War One > and in my copy at least (pub 1999), there are no OT drawings > by Hardesty. > Lots of Wylam, but a fair amount by others such as Nieto and others. > > Whilst we know Wylam is inaccurate often, what about these other > draughtsmen? Do the same problems apply to their work? > > All the Best > > Neil E > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:43:20 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <1022233400.3cee0b38913ca@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Jamie Gagnon : > My request for gentleness was based on past forays into established > lists; > newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they bring up a > topic > long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. > Actually, there are some on the list who like nothing better than beating to death the same old topics (Voss, MvR etc) - most of us tolerate them !! Now you know how nice we are, tell us about yourself ! Are you joining us on a permanent basis or just passing through ? Where are you ? What do you like building ? Me, I live in Fife, Scotland and build 1/72 British forces stuff (Which means I can do French, German and US stuff in British markings !) David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:21:18 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <006d01c2030c$be655cc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I have here a few of Kalström drawings of OT machines, including some Sopwiths and Bristol aircraft. I liked them, but something bothered me without knowing what exactly until I got a ruler and compared dimensions amongst different views of the same airplane: they don't match! And even when sometimes in the Datafiles this happens as well, the differences in size on the same sheet of drawings are almost noticeable without the ruler test. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > I think there is a Karlström drawing in there. Around here Karlström is > more admired for the volume of his work and the aviation historical > heritage that his work is to Swedish historians, rather than complete > accuracy. I've heard that he tends towards making aircraft look better > than they really did, a nice trait. Also heard that of his magnificent > volumes of Swedish Air Force drawings the later ones are much better > because some of the Swedish aviation historians (Anders Bruun for instance) > have corrected them. I don't like to say anything unkind about Karlström > because he's a great guy, but do check against photos. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:23:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: The hedge hopper Message-ID: <007301c2030d$1c62f260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Wonderful! Thanks a lot Dave! the interest of this aircraft then is not the gaudy markings, but the holes al over the aircraft! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: The hedge hopper > > Diego & Others, > > Told you I had this - from the official 75th Anniversary history of 111 > Squadron, Captain Drummond's Nieuport had serial B3597, which makles it > a 'vanilla' Nie 17. The history has no photos specifically of Drummond's > machine, but has another shot of a 111 Nie 17 - appears to be overall aluminium > with no Squadron markings. > > The article aslo has a copy of the combat report, and comments from the then > Recording Officer (Col) Swinburne. He says he counted over 300 bullet holes on > the Nie, and that it had 'about one third of a 120hp Rotary Le Rhone' He also > tells how Drummond ran out of ammo and resorted to throwing empty ammo > drums 'in the hope that they'd foul a Hun prop!'. > > Drummond reports he had to land as he coudln't get over a hill - Swinburne > tells how there are no hills over 300ft in that area. > > Dave F > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:25:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Today in history - the Italian front Message-ID: <007901c2030d$628c1140$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Alberto wrote: > 24th May 1915: Italy declare war on Austria-Hungary. Italian troops march > towards the Isonzo river. What? No Isonzo battle today? ;-) Congrats for the articles published, I'm looking forward to read them! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:02:29 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Another upload Message-ID: Just added Andreas Martin's stunning Salmson to the site. No French conspiracy this time. It's in US markings. ;-) And a request. Since this weekend is a US national holiday, and since I have so many in progress models to finish, I request that people *not* send me site additions until next week, please. Sure, I could ignore them, but I would have a guilty conscious. It's better if nothing is sent to me. Thanks!! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:12:59 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: Maybe Neil C. can shed some light > on the Spads of > this book. > Diego was kind enough to hope for this, but I'm actually not very good at this kind of thing. My friend Anders sees instantly whats wrong with a drawing or a kit, I don't see it till I've had a model on my shelf for six months. But FWIW I think Wylams Spad drawings are good, particuarly the Spad XI and XVI, I compared them to photos and liked what I saw. Detail work is as usual exquisite, and as far as I could see mostly correct, he had the aerial trailing winch on the wrong side, but for all I know it could be correct on some planes. I've never heard any complaints about the Spad VII and XIII drawings, but never actively compared them. I use the drawings in Windsock because I'm very naive and trusting and I think Ray Rimell is a good guy, so if he use Doug Carrick and Ian Stair drawings they're probably the best. I also think Wylam is well worth a sainthood, because he has laid the foundation for so many other artists to follow. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:15:57 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Another upload Message-ID: Yes thats a stunner isn't it. Well done Andreas. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:16:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Another upload Message-ID: <00cd01c20314$779555e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > Just added Andreas Martin's stunning Salmson to the site. Neat! I forwarded the new upload news to a guy in Colorado I know of... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:21:44 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Another upload Message-ID: You must mean Peter Forsberg, didn't know he likes Salmsons, more an ice-hockey sort of guy;-) /Neil C. > > Neat! > I forwarded the new upload news to a guy in Colorado I know of... > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:22:47 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <00dd01c20315$55732040$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil wrote: > I also think Wylam is well worth a sainthood, because he has laid the > foundation for so many other artists to follow. So it's a Prophet, then. ;-) I like Wylam's drawings and most of the shortcomings of his works are due to scarce reliable information, I guess. His work is very thorough and I'm sure that if he had all the info at hand he would have done a most exact rendition of each plane. Unfortunately this wasn't possible in the 40s and 50s, the date of many of the drawings of that book. Neil, have you seen the update on the Memorial Flight Spad XIII restoration? There are some picturs there that are truly delicious, as Mr. Wonka would say. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:27:39 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: > Neil, have you seen the update on the Memorial Flight Spad > XIII restoration? > There are some picturs there that are truly delicious, as Mr. > Wonka would > say. > D. > > No, must do that, and talking of that, this bomb-release mechanism on a Spad, since when was a Spad a bomber? I don't think I've ever seen a Spad carrying bombs (though heaven knows I'm usually wrong). Is it perhaps for jettisoning gasoline? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:28:38 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Another upload Message-ID: <00e301c20316$268c7be0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Nope I was talking about a guy good as an Angel and related to the Cartwrights and the Ingalls... ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Another upload > You must mean Peter Forsberg, didn't know he likes Salmsons, > more an ice-hockey sort of guy;-) > /Neil C. > > > > > > Neat! > > I forwarded the new upload news to a guy in Colorado I know of... > > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:36:01 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <00e901c20317$2eb5e940$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > No, must do that, and talking of that, this bomb-release mechanism > on a Spad, since when was a Spad a bomber? I don't think I've ever > seen a Spad carrying bombs (though heaven knows I'm usually wrong). > Is it perhaps for jettisoning gasoline? Don't look as related to the fuels system. the metal boxes are on the camera bay aft the pilot's cockpit. Maybe they only carried Flechettes. There's also some good shots of the "rip" panel for gasoline jettisoning on the same website. in fact it was the first time for me that I saw this feature clearly. The Spad on the Smithsonian is in such a dark place! Please Brian fix that one for us. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:09:52 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: > My request for gentleness was based on past forays into > established lists; > newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they > bring up a topic > long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. > > Jamie We like people bringing up old topics, it makes us feel comfie:-) And gives us a chance to change the subject to something sillier, stick around and you'll notice that. Welcome from Sweden where all listees build 1/72 with a french bias (Mårtens off list right now, so he can't complain) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:27:53 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Finally Fondling Plastic :-) Message-ID: > The Baby is going to be a lot of work (and fun) as the > fuselage is too big > according to the DF drawings, soooo I decided to scratch the entire > fuselage. I am doing it in two pieces, fore and aft, like the > real thing. I > am starting with a square brass rod frame (soldered) and > covering it with > either 0.005 or 0.010 styrene. > > Cheers, Graham > Make sure you post pictures of that, it sounds great fun. I have some correction notes for the 1/48 kit if you're interested. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:20:42 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <200205240920.42783.larrym@sympatico.ca> > We like people bringing up old topics, it makes us feel comfie:-) You guys have made light of how nice you are and I guess that's because you're so nice. But Jamie's absolutely right; you guys are different from most modeling venues. Heck, I picked up a copy of Military Modeler magazine and the letters to the editor sound as though the readership is at war with one another. In many other conferences I've been in people are there to take, not to give and that's just the opposite here. It's refreshing. Now...I've got a question about Voss's yellow cowl...... Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:36:23 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: Larry Voss's yellow cowl was really purple... Running off to my slit trench! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:larrym@sympatico.ca] Sent: 24 May 2002 14:23 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) > We like people bringing up old topics, it makes us feel comfie:-) You guys have made light of how nice you are and I guess that's because you're so nice. But Jamie's absolutely right; you guys are different from most modeling venues. Heck, I picked up a copy of Military Modeler magazine and the letters to the editor sound as though the readership is at war with one another. In many other conferences I've been in people are there to take, not to give and that's just the opposite here. It's refreshing. Now...I've got a question about Voss's yellow cowl...... Cheers --- Larry This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:51:36 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Thanks Everyone Message-ID: <007301c2032a$1fe7f440$272c32d2@default> Hi All; Just a big thank you to all you who helped out with the Toko paint/decal instructions/box bottom scans. Once again the Community of this List has proved itself to be generous and helpful when needed, as well as sharing a lot of fun too. Sort gives you hope in the world to be part of it. So...Ladies and Gentlemen....Hats Off! All the Best Neil E (Still in need of Nieuport 11 and Siemens Schuckert scans) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Close up lense for model photography? Message-ID: <20020524135306.31460.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Maybe this is off topic, but I want to get a close up lense for OT 1.72 and later 1.48 model aircraft. I have a 50mm and a 100mm Nikon lense to use with my 35mm Nikon FM2. Am thinking about getting one of the good close up lenses such as Cannons for around $120. But they have different grades and levels of close up like +4 etc... Any suggestions on which one would be best? Or how close of a focus I typically would need? (I.E. distance from lense to model?) Thanks, Bill Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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