WWI Digest 4430 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Lance Krieg" 2) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Finally Fondling Plastic :-) by "Graham Hunter" 4) Re: FE2.b rigging question by Paul Thompson 5) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "NEIL EDDY" 6) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Ken Acosta" 8) Re: FE2.b rigging question by ssh 9) Re: FE2.b rigging question by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by Mark Miller 11) french bomb release gizmo by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? by bill anthony 13) Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 14) Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV - yes by "Brian Nicklas" 15) Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: FE2.b rigging question by ssh 17) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Jamie Gagnon" 18) Re: FE2.b rigging question by "Lance Krieg" 19) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Diego Fernetti" 20) RE: oven cleaner by "Jamie Gagnon" 21) Re: FE2.b rigging question by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? (Thanks!) by bill anthony 23) Re: FE2.b rigging question by ssh 24) RE:More additions to the Gallery by "Nigel Rayner" 25) New Windsock by "Nigel Rayner" 26) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 27) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 28) Re: New Windsock by "Brian Nicklas" 29) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "NEIL EDDY" 30) Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) by "Jamie Gagnon" 31) Re: New Windsock by tbittners@sprintmail.com 32) RE:More additions to the Gallery by tbittners@sprintmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:02:20 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: Hardesty drawings show up in WWIAero, and are available from them. And I'm pretty sure Diego is correct that they are sprinkled in with Wylam's in that "Scale Aircraft Drawings" book, which is still widely available. If you are working on a particular project, I can check my stash and see if I have any Hardesty work on the subject. Seems like they're mostly Nieuports... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:13:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <001301c20274$bd688240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> One of the drawings NOT appearing in the mentioned book is the Nieuport 27 (or it was a 24?) drawings. I have it scanned and if you want it for research purposes, of course ;-), I'll send it along. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > Hardesty drawings show up in WWIAero, and are available from them. And > I'm pretty sure Diego is correct that they are sprinkled in with Wylam's > in that "Scale Aircraft Drawings" book, which is still widely > available. > > If you are working on a particular project, I can check my stash and > see if I have any Hardesty work on the subject. Seems like they're > mostly Nieuports... > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:22:21 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Finally Fondling Plastic :-) Message-ID: <000201c20276$05c3a6e0$770101c0@ghunter> Well I finally got back to the modelling bench last night. After about 3 months away from my addiction it sure was nice to put a file to plastic. I was busy with studying and now I am coaching my daughters soccer team so time has been tight. NB Sopwith Baby with a side of CSM Dolphin (museum commission). The Baby is going to be a lot of work (and fun) as the fuselage is too big according to the DF drawings, soooo I decided to scratch the entire fuselage. I am doing it in two pieces, fore and aft, like the real thing. I am starting with a square brass rod frame (soldered) and covering it with either 0.005 or 0.010 styrene. Cheers, Graham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:21:26 +0200 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020523181902.00a2fd50@pop.xs4all.nl> Sanjeev, 2 - each cable goes to one fairlead under the leading edge, then runs to a pully. I think. I'll have to check point 1. Just looking at the model I remember that I had a reason for everything I did, but now just wonder at the lunacy of it all. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 02:20:55 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <009f01c20275$d12fdfc0$725032d2@default> HI Lance and Everyone; I just had a look through my copy of Scale Aircraft Drawings - World War One and in my copy at least (pub 1999), there are no OT drawings by Hardesty. Lots of Wylam, but a fair amount by others such as Nieto and others. Whilst we know Wylam is inaccurate often, what about these other draughtsmen? Do the same problems apply to their work? All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:04 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > Hardesty drawings show up in WWIAero, and are available from them. And > I'm pretty sure Diego is correct that they are sprinkled in with Wylam's > in that "Scale Aircraft Drawings" book, which is still widely > available. > > If you are working on a particular project, I can check my stash and > see if I have any Hardesty work on the subject. Seems like they're > mostly Nieuports... > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:33:52 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <007c01c20277$a0584b60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well, at least there must be some drawings that even when not made by Hardesty, must be researched by him or he must have been responsible for parts of them. Fresh in my memory are the Jenny drawings, where his name appeared somewhere in the maze of text these drawings are. The Fokker D.VIII drawings are in fact better than the Stair drawings on the datafile. Jim Landon must know about the Thomas Morse quality, as he researched that on a previous model and I know that he at least used partly the Salmson drawings too. Maybe Neil C. can shed some light on the Spads of this book. The Albatros section is almost completely useless, and IIRC also the Siemens Schukhert (sp?) part. I wonder if the Wright is OK.. You must remember that these drawings were usually made with a very restricted deadline, low research budget and little reliable sources, so it's surprising that they made such beautiful works even with the poor tools they had on those times. Seems like Wylam is about to publish a definitive book on Breguets soon. Hope it'll be not that expensive. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: NEIL EDDY To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > HI Lance and Everyone; > > I just had a look through my copy of Scale Aircraft Drawings - World War One > and in my copy at least (pub 1999), there are no OT drawings by Hardesty. > Lots of Wylam, but a fair amount by others such as Nieto and others. > > Whilst we know Wylam is inaccurate often, what about these other > draughtsmen? Do the same problems apply to their work? > > All the Best > > Neil E > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Krieg" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:04 AM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > > > > Hardesty drawings show up in WWIAero, and are available from them. And > > I'm pretty sure Diego is correct that they are sprinkled in with Wylam's > > in that "Scale Aircraft Drawings" book, which is still widely > > available. > > > > If you are working on a particular project, I can check my stash and > > see if I have any Hardesty work on the subject. Seems like they're > > mostly Nieuports... > > > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:33:25 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: Hey D- I've got the Scale Aircraft Drawings book, but it doesn't include any of the Hardesty drawings. He made 4-sheet sets for the Ni.17, Ni.24/27, and Ni.28. If he made more than these, I'm not aware of them. I was looking for the 17 and 28 drawings myself. KA "Some old OT drawings are in the book "Scale Aircraft Drawings: World War One" I bought my copy back in 1998 in the museum shop of NASM for a decent price. There's works of many different artists and some of the drawings have been declared innacurate as new info was collected. Wich airplane drawings are you looking for?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:39:37 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <3CECCBFF00017C76@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Lance, Paul, 1- I agree that with you that the wire would have to be anchored to the longeron as you stated. My problem is, I have'nt seen any photo in the datafile that shows such a wire. It will help if you can identify a photo for me. 2- aileron. 2 questions. What is a fairlead? I thought it was just a grommet in the fabric. Second: can you check for any photos (in the datafile) that show this? >>>>>> I cannot recall whether the cable passes though fairleads along the leading edge or behind it, but am >sure >that it is an exterior run. --- as far as I can tell from the GA, there is a single 'fairlead'. The cable either 'turns the corner' at this point, or enters the wing. I dont understand what you mean by "behind the leading edge". regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:52:06 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <00c201c2027a$2be52b60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sanjeev! > 1- I agree that with you that the wire would have to be anchored to > the longeron as you stated. My problem is, I have'nt seen any photo > in the datafile that shows such a wire. It will help if you can > identify a photo for me. Maybe you can hint some attachment points in this picture from Steve Cox's website: http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/FE/fuse1.jpg > 2- aileron. 2 questions. What is a fairlead? It has two meanings. First the word was used to describe a lead wich is honest and has a sense of justice. But as these qualities are not so common even on leads, the word was also used to describe fairs that dealt mainly with leaden metals or lead made products, as for instance water pipes or paperweights. these fairs were the rage in the late XVIII century, as I've been told. They also sold thingies in there. > Second: can you check for any photos (in the datafile) that show > this? Page 145, second from third row. There's a pilot. The pilot has a lether jacket, inside that has a shirt. On his shirt there's a yellow pencil. In the pencil there's a lead. Ain't that fair? > I dont understand what you mean by "behind the leading edge". Obvious. If that edge is leading, anything of the rest of the airframe go following it. ;-) It has been a loooooong day here. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <20020523170654.3843.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com> I just took a look at the back cover of a WW1 aero (may 2001) and found this: "Nieuport 17 poster prints from original Hardesty dwg. rolled- $12 Also: his three sets each of four dwgs of N17, N24-27, N28- @$20/set, rolled" I assume these are available directly from WW1 Aero 15 Crescent Rd. Poughkeepsie NY 12601 USA Phone: 845 473 3679 Hope this helps Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:08:36 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Cc: "Matt Bittner" Subject: french bomb release gizmo Message-ID: <014f01c2027c$7a96d220$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Matt You were wondering the other day about the bomb release mechanisms on the french Strutters. Well, this is from a Spad and since is from the Memorial Flight website you probably already know it, but here's a quite useful picture of release levers http://memorial.flight.free.fr/gallery/spadXIII/res2001/d30.jpg HTH D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? Message-ID: <20020523171214.75368.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, After seeing these latest 1.72 Albatrosses (albatrosi?) all I can say is "I'm not worthy!) Anyway, is there any good reviews of the Eduard 1.72 DVs on the internet (Internet Modeler?). Thanks, Bill Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? Message-ID: <20020523172215.91365469A1@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 23 May 2002 13:14:02 -0400 (EDT), bill anthony wrote: > After seeing these latest 1.72 Albatrosses >(albatrosi?) all I can say is "I'm not worthy!) >Anyway, is there any good reviews of the Eduard 1.72 >DVs on the internet (Internet Modeler?). There is a review on the Australian site (which I don't have the URL for anymore) plus - like you mentioned - IM. I think it was either Feb or Mar that Michael Kendix supplied the review. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:24:58 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV - yes Message-ID: Michael Kendix has a nice write up: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/february/aviation/MK_D5.htm Beauty of a kit, (other than adding a radiator pipe) I just picked up another and the new 1/48 (I know, not my normal scale, but since the new Profipack comes with "Stropp" markings, I had to have one...) Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:31:18 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? Message-ID: <01be01c2027f$e3e17160$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > There is a review on the Australian site (which I don't have the URL for anymore) http://pmms.webace.com.au/ww1/ed7019.htm D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:38:48 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <3CECCBFF0001C7DF@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Diego, Thanks for the enlightenment. I will be thinking of you while rigging the Fetubi. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:40:57 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <002401c20280$ff57aa80$9b127018@ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Okay then, thanks folks. There are a couple of the Eduard D.II (LVG) kits in hobby shops here, I was wondering whether there was any point in getting someone to order the Profipack for me or just to buy them. My request for gentleness was based on past forays into established lists; newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they bring up a topic long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. Jamie > According to the Datafile and Datafile Special (and > for the life of me, I couldn't find the actual > reference when I looked, but know it's there), the LVG > built a/c were originally designated LVG D.I's and the > only difference other than the camo pattern was that > LVG ones had metal fairings over the ammuntion chutes. > Apparently, the canvas ammo belts became twisted in > the airstream. > > Todd > --- Lance Krieg wrote: > > Jamie asks: > > > > "... what is(are) the difference(s) between the > > L.V.G. and the standard > > version?" > > > > I don't think that's a stupid question, and haven't > > a clue, myself. > > Until the kits came out, I didn't even know LVG > > subcontracted for these. > > > > > > The answer is probably going to turn out to be "the > > trademark transfer > > on the components", but I'm curious, too. > > > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:42:54 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: Sanjeev - A "fairlead" is a nautical term describing a piece of hardware designed to make sure a line travels within a constrained area. As you say, a grommet can serve as a fairlead, but there also exist those that help the line "turn a corner", which is precisely what my recollection presents about the bottom aileron run on the Fee. So, depending upon where this item is placed on that lower wing, the aileron control run can be at the leading edge or somewhat aft when it makes its turn and heads for the the pulley out by the wing tip. I THINK the cable is behind the leading edge (as it is on the top wing); one would imagine that a moving cable on the absolute edge of the airfoil would not only spoil the airflow, but subject that cable to buffeting and wear that could be avoided were it placed in the lee. Let me look at some photos... Oh, and ignore Diego, who is clearly too bored today. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:47:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <01d001c20281$f0590dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Jamie Welcome to the list. We're nice and polite here. Now, please, if you don't mind, excuse me if I'm bothering you, would you hand us your head? thanks a lot in advance D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Gagnon To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) > Okay then, thanks folks. There are a couple of the Eduard D.II (LVG) kits in > hobby shops here, I was wondering whether there was any point in getting > someone to order the Profipack for me or just to buy them. > > My request for gentleness was based on past forays into established lists; > newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they bring up a topic > long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. > > Jamie > > > According to the Datafile and Datafile Special (and > > for the life of me, I couldn't find the actual > > reference when I looked, but know it's there), the LVG > > built a/c were originally designated LVG D.I's and the > > only difference other than the camo pattern was that > > LVG ones had metal fairings over the ammuntion chutes. > > Apparently, the canvas ammo belts became twisted in > > the airstream. > > > > Todd > > --- Lance Krieg wrote: > > > Jamie asks: > > > > > > "... what is(are) the difference(s) between the > > > L.V.G. and the standard > > > version?" > > > > > > I don't think that's a stupid question, and haven't > > > a clue, myself. > > > Until the kits came out, I didn't even know LVG > > > subcontracted for these. > > > > > > > > > The answer is probably going to turn out to be "the > > > trademark transfer > > > on the components", but I'm curious, too. > > > > > > Lance > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:54:10 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: RE: oven cleaner Message-ID: <00a801c20282$d7e1d1e0$9b127018@ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi; I tried the oven cleaner route once, but found that it left a white residue which was harder to remove than the original paint. Jamie > > Speaking of which...what's the best stuff for taking Humbrol off of > > Roden > > plastic? When I built before we used brake fluid. Something better? > > > > I use Mr Muscle Oven cleaner (Caustic Soda/NaOH based), give it a spray, leave > it for 45 minutes then rinse off under the tap. WARNING - Wear gloves & cover > any arms skin etc - Mr Muscle is very caustic and WILL BURN - if you get it on > your skin, rinse off immediately. > > Others have used Strip-a-kit, which I beleive is citrus oil based and less > caustic > > Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:53:52 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <01da01c20282$cd011740$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lance wrote: > Oh, and ignore Diego, who is clearly too > bored today. Not at all. I'm quite busy today. D. Theres 4.567 flowers in the wallpaper of the office. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Reviews of 1.72 Eduard DV?? (Thanks!) Message-ID: <20020523175427.18665.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone, Sounds like its time to stock up on some 1.72 Albatross kits! Probably will not get to them for a long time though. I am currently finishing my two 1.72 Dr1.s and then might jump into building a 1.72 Nieuport 11 and Nieuprot 16. Bill Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:14:08 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <3CECCBFF0001F6AB@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Thanks for the explanation of the fairlead. Between you and Diego, hopefully we have not missed any other meanings or subtle nuances of the term. In no case does the cable run along the leading edge. On the top wing it run span-wise, but set aft approx along the main spar. On the lower wing, it angles back and down from the nacelle to the fairlead at the leading edge at which point it angles back some more and upwards to the pulley (upwards due to dihedral). regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:20:35 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE:More additions to the Gallery Message-ID: <000001c20286$88314a00$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Matt wrote: >Bill Arnold sends in his latest - the Roden Albatros D.II Oeffag. > Simply awesome! Really nice work Bill. Great job on the Roden - looks like you hid the join at front well. I suspect however that you have a huge forefinger because that's the only way I can explain the size of the pressure pump..... Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:20:36 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: New Windsock Message-ID: <000101c20286$88d922c0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> is here! And it's a corker! Ray must've heard me whingeing (typical Pom as our Ausie cousins would say) and got it in the post. This is a Casirati-fest issue - three articles by our esteemed Alberto. These are a superb how-to scratchbuild a Nie IVM, an excellent article on Italian Voisin colours and an update on an Ansaldo S-1 restoration. Well done Alberto! Other interstiung stuff includes an article on building the Airfix 0/400 and some nice shots from Southern Expo (although some of the photos are poorly exposed). Plus the usual reviews etc. Highly recommended as usual. And watch out for the next two issues which have articles on Lance's Felixstowe (I have seen a shot of the completed beast and it is very, very, very impressive). Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:21:11 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <012f01c20286$a0475da0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> > You guys have been kind. > > Jamie Jamie! Sure we are kind guys. And our girls - even more kind!!! (yes, we have some girls on list!!!) So now, be kind, and send me half of your models. You'll never build it, as you'll now spend half daytime for reading list mails, and another half for answering'em. Second half of your models you can donate to poor children in your area. ;-) Cheers from Poland Grzegorz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:31:34 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <006b01c20288$12023ea0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Kind Grzegorz writes: > So now, be kind, and send me half of your models. You'll > never build it, as > you'll now spend half daytime for reading list mails, and > another half for > answering'em. In my country we say "see, you offer a hand and soon they want the whole arm..." OT content: next weekend there's Santos open modeling contest here on Sao Paulo state coast (if the contest isn't that good - it means few OT and lots of B***9's -, at least we know the lunch will be superb). It will be the debut of the Revell Fokker triplane in contests. More good news is that my friend Agnaldo Tavares is building *two* OT kits, a Revell Fokker triplane (it'll turn into a build review for a new modeling magazine I'll be writing for) and an Eduard Albatros D.Va I gave him. If he finds some time these next days, both will be ready in time for the next contest, here in São Paulo on June 8-9. The virus spreads... All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:43:45 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Windsock Message-ID: Nigel, What is the month and issue numbers of this latest? (I need to see if I'm missing one or two issues worth...) Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 05:02:31 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <01e201c2028c$64d8c500$725032d2@default> Jamie; Struth! You're getting more kind offers than the bloody parson's daughter! And if you happen to take up these offers from those two "Kind Gentlemen", I have a box of Airfix Fokker DR-1's here...only $2000 dollars (USD) on E-Bay.... Welcome to the List from Downunder! All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Gagnon" > My request for gentleness was based on past forays into established lists; > newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they bring up a topic > long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. > > Jamie > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:14:44 -0400 From: "Jamie Gagnon" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) Message-ID: <000d01c2028e$18d63be0$9b127018@ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Now, if you were talking an Aurora Gotha, I might be willing to do some dealing...... Jamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "NEIL EDDY" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Albatros D.II (L.V.G.) > Jamie; > > Struth! You're getting more kind offers than the bloody parson's daughter! > And if you happen to take up these offers from those two "Kind Gentlemen", I > have a box of Airfix Fokker DR-1's here...only $2000 dollars (USD) on > E-Bay.... > > Welcome to the List from Downunder! > > All the Best > > Neil E > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jamie Gagnon" > My request for gentleness was based on past forays > into established lists; > > newbies frequently get their heads handed to them when they bring up a > topic > > long since exhausted in the group. You guys have been kind. > > > > Jamie > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:33:24 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Windsock Message-ID: <20020523193324.1F2A446979@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 23 May 2002 14:19:44 -0400 (EDT), Nigel Rayner wrote: >is here! And it's a corker! Ray must've heard me whingeing (typical Pom as >our Ausie cousins would say) and got it in the post. This is a Casirati-fest >issue - three articles by our esteemed Alberto. These are a superb how-to >scratchbuild a Nie IVM, an excellent article on Italian Voisin colours and >an update on an Ansaldo S-1 restoration. Well done Alberto! Other >interstiung stuff includes an article on building the Airfix 0/400 and some >nice shots from Southern Expo (although some of the photos are poorly >exposed). Plus the usual reviews etc. Highly recommended as usual. And watch >out for the next two issues which have articles on Lance's Felixstowe (I >have seen a shot of the completed beast and it is very, very, very >impressive). Alberto's Nie.IV is impressive indeed. Truly an awesome model by an awesome modeler. Maybe Amodel has been waiting for his masters? ;-) As far as Lance's Felixstowe goes, pictures truly don't do it justice. If you had the priviledge to see the interior before he closed it up and hid it all, it truly is a work of art. Two of modeling Masters, that's for sure. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE:More additions to the Gallery Message-ID: <20020523193432.83A0C469A6@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 23 May 2002 14:19:37 -0400 (EDT), Nigel Rayner wrote: >Really nice work Bill. Great job on the Roden - looks like you hid the join >at front well. I suspect however that you have a huge forefinger because >that's the only way I can explain the size of the pressure pump..... You should see his nose! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4430 **********************