WWI Digest 4429 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: French Strutters by Larry Marshall 2) Friday by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 3) Re: Another addition to the Gallery by Larry Marshall 4) Re: Another addition to the Gallery by Larry Marshall 5) Re: Friday by "Thomas Solinski" 6) News by tbittners@sprintmail.com 7) RE: Friday by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: FMP book wasRE: RE: French Strutters by Crawford Neil 9) RE: French Strutters by tbittners@sprintmail.com 10) Re: News by Dave Fleming 11) Re: Friday by tbittners@sprintmail.com 12) RE: French Strutters by Dave Fleming 13) RE: French Strutters by Larry Marshall 14) I MISS YOU, MY FRIEND !!! by webmaster 15) RE: French Strutters by Steven Perry 16) RE:Oil Washes by "Fraser" 17) RE: French Strutters by "Diego Fernetti" 18) mixed names by "Diego Fernetti" 19) RE: French Strutters by Larry Marshall 20) RE: French Strutters by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 21) Re: Talking of Crowood books by ssh 22) RE: French Strutters by "Lance Krieg" 23) RE: More uploads by "Harris, Mack" 24) FE2.b rigging question by ssh 25) Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability by Crawford Neil 26) RE: French Strutters by Larry Marshall 27) kits and books by Crawford Neil 28) Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability by Crawford Neil 29) RE: French Strutters by Peter Fedders 30) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Ken Acosta" 31) RE: kits and books by Crawford Neil 32) Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings by "Diego Fernetti" 33) RE: French Strutters by "NEIL EDDY" 34) Re: FE2.b rigging question by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:17:45 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <200205230717.45676.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Indeed. Funny how those Brits think. :-) As Bob points out, Bruce writes about what he knows but he's certainly felt competent to write about French Nieuports. Could simply be that he didn't have material on French Strutters. > There exists that possibility - that some French factories didn't > adhere to the aluminum-doped "edict", but my contact seems to > think *all* single-color machines were aluminum. This would certainly be 'fun' news for modelers. It seems, however, that some solid evidence in the form of documents would be required to convince anyone given the inertia the current literature has. It would be really neat if there were both CDL and aluminum French Strutters. > those would have been CDL, unless the French took them "brown" > (yuck). Say it ain't so....:-) On a slightly different subject, you mentioned the gaps and such in the tail surfaces. You also referenced IPMS judges. Do you have good photos showing those gaps? I do (in color) if you need them. It's British but it's a tail :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 06:29:04 -0500 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Friday Message-ID: <006401c2024d$0cb94140$3132b9cc@unionrai> Sorry about the wide band broadcast yesterday - obviously met for the St. Louis Jasta group. but if anyone is in the St. Louis area please know you're invited to these informal meetings. The garage sale doesn't include OT kits unless Mrs. D is selling them without my knowledge. Why the garage sale....Union Pacific RR is moving us back to Omaha in 2004 to be with Matt. Charlie nb: putting the TR6 back together ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:29:48 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another addition to the Gallery Message-ID: <200205230729.48026.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Bill Arnold sends in his latest - the Roden Albatros D.II Oeffag. > Simply awesome! > > How does he do it? Quickly :-) Can someone compare "Ethicon" wire to the stainless wire that Small Parts sells? Who sells Ethicon? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:32:04 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another addition to the Gallery Message-ID: <200205230732.04560.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:34 am, you wrote: > Amazing detail and painting on that Alb. Love the fuel pressure pump. How > can one work in such detail at such sizes. ;-) You have entered my life with that question. I'm trying to figure this out myself. I suspect that Bill sees 'gooder' than I do :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 06:36:38 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Friday Message-ID: <006301c2024e$1a5248a0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> "Union Pacific RR is moving us back to Omaha in 2004 to be with Matt." St.Louis to Omaha, how sad. Been to both places, At least Nebraska has an aviation museum, (The SAC surplus museum) tom S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:59:01 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: News Message-ID: <20020523115901.780A1469DB@eclipse.qis.net> Just saw on the Squadron site that they have the next Osprey book, on Aces of the Dolphin and Snipe. Also saw on the Rosemont site that Barry lists the Eduard 1/72nd Fokker E.IV. Cool! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:01:04 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Friday Message-ID: <001a01c20251$84263c20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Chalie wrote: > Why the garage > sale....Union Pacific RR is moving us back to Omaha in 2004 to be with Matt. So you're leaving the St. Louis Jasta to face Matt's escadrille... D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:04:24 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: FMP book wasRE: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: > Well then double that to get what we should be paying in > AUDs... What i want > to know is how can they charge this much for a book? Seesm > that reading is > becoming a thing for the rich only. > > Ross This is easy to answer, because its so very good that it's worth $200, so $112 or $90 whatever, is a snip! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <20020523120439.84744468F2@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 23 May 2002 07:19:17 -0400 (EDT), Larry Marshall wrote: >As Bob points out, Bruce writes about what he knows but he's certainly felt >competent to write about French Nieuports. Could simply be that he didn't >have material on French Strutters. Agreed. Then instead of doing something really flimsy, he should have just conceded that he didn't know, and left it at that. >This would certainly be 'fun' news for modelers. It seems, however, that some >solid evidence in the form of documents would be required to convince anyone >given the inertia the current literature has. It would be really neat if >there were both CDL and aluminum French Strutters. Well, I understand where you're coming from IRT evidence. It's just that for now you'll have to trust me. ;-) >On a slightly different subject, you mentioned the gaps and such in the tail >surfaces. You also referenced IPMS judges. Do you have good photos showing >those gaps? I do (in color) if you need them. It's British but it's a tail >:-) Sure, send it along. I can ignore the color. ;-) Thanks! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:04:45 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Re: News Message-ID: <1022155485.3cecdadd550b4@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting tbittners@sprintmail.com: > > Also saw on the Rosemont site that Barry lists the Eduard 1/72nd Fokker > E.IV. Cool! > Anyone know of any non-German schemes for the EIV ? Or will I wait for the E111 (Destined to be E216/16)? ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Friday Message-ID: <20020523120618.CA4724694A@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 23 May 2002 07:29:25 -0400 (EDT), Charlie and Linda Duckworth wrote: >Sorry about the wide band broadcast yesterday - obviously met for the St. >Louis Jasta group. but if anyone is in the St. Louis area please know >you're invited to these informal meetings. The garage sale doesn't include >OT kits unless Mrs. D is selling them without my knowledge. Why the garage >sale....Union Pacific RR is moving us back to Omaha in 2004 to be with Matt. Cool! Another on topic modeler in the area to stave off all the heathens. Scale not mattering, in this instance. Back, all you builders of nazi WW2 crap!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:19:18 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <1022156358.3cecde4641479@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Bob Pearson : > > >After stating how much more colorful French schemes were in the first > > paragraph of the > > Color and Markings section, Bruce spends the rest of the section > talking > > about British color and markings. > > That is because that is his area of expertise - BRITISH aircraft. Also, don't forget Ray Rimell writes the Colours section, not JM Bruce. Anyway, who cares what the French did ? :-) Dave F ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:20:59 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <200205230820.59195.larrym@sympatico.ca> > Agreed. Then instead of doing something really flimsy, he should have just > conceded that he didn't know, and left it at that. A more appropriate title would have been British Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutters :-) Maybe he'll do one on French Strutters at some point. > Well, I understand where you're coming from IRT evidence. It's just that > for now you'll have to trust me. ;-) That suits me fine as I haven't seen evidence of any competitions where I have to document what I'm doing. For others, though.... Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:36:58 +0900 From: webmaster To: Subject: I MISS YOU, MY FRIEND !!! Message-ID: <200205231237.IAA75811@mustang.sr.unh.edu>




------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:36:37 -0400 From: Steven Perry To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <3CECE255.3010409@tampabay.rr.com> First, Strutters are pretty planes brown, CDL, silver, 5 color notwithstanding. So the Flashback strutter, (French markings option rudder# 316), is aluminum and not CDL. Now I seem to recall some List traffic on the color of the cowl ring (rudder# 316). I thoight that it was proven, to some at least, that the cowl ring was not red. I don't recall what the other color was. Can anyone refresh what used to be my memory? TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:44:07 +0200 From: "Fraser" To: Subject: RE:Oil Washes Message-ID: <001a01c20257$a17820d0$5a6914d4@pc145681> A good spoonful of mineral oil should speed things up......... N > > Sorry to be so slow in >replying I'm in digest mode. Fundamentally, in bad taste (fnar,fnar) and ot .....unless it is, of course, Castor oil, guess it would at that. he said oleagenously... F ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:46:24 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <005801c20257$d9146d00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hasn't Michael Fletcher wrote something about the Strutter cowl in his latest article on IM this current month? D. just 12Kb of memory ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: French Strutters > First, Strutters are pretty planes brown, CDL, silver, 5 color > notwithstanding. > > So the Flashback strutter, (French markings option rudder# 316), is > aluminum and not CDL. Now I seem to recall some List traffic on the > color of the cowl ring (rudder# 316). I thoight that it was proven, to > some at least, that the cowl ring was not red. I don't recall what the > other color was. Can anyone refresh what used to be my memory? > TIA > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:49:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: mixed names Message-ID: <009a01c20258$56f57660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry I meant Michael Kendix. Name mixing.... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Diego Fernetti To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: French Strutters > Hasn't Michael Fletcher wrote something about the Strutter cowl in his > latest article on IM this current month? > D. > just 12Kb of memory > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Perry > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:38 AM > Subject: [WWI] RE: French Strutters > > > > First, Strutters are pretty planes brown, CDL, silver, 5 color > > notwithstanding. > > > > So the Flashback strutter, (French markings option rudder# 316), is > > aluminum and not CDL. Now I seem to recall some List traffic on the > > color of the cowl ring (rudder# 316). I thoight that it was proven, to > > some at least, that the cowl ring was not red. I don't recall what the > > other color was. Can anyone refresh what used to be my memory? > > TIA > > sp > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:57:53 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <200205230857.53903.larrym@sympatico.ca> On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:46 am, you wrote: > Hasn't Michael Fletcher wrote something about the Strutter cowl in his > latest article on IM this current month? That would be Michael Kendrix but his Strutter is one of thos "brown" ones :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:32:20 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <1022160740.3cecef649b79e@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Larry Marshall : > > Speaking of which...what's the best stuff for taking Humbrol off of > Roden > plastic? When I built before we used brake fluid. Something better? > I use Mr Muscle Oven cleaner (Caustic Soda/NaOH based), give it a spray, leave it for 45 minutes then rinse off under the tap. WARNING - Wear gloves & cover any arms skin etc - Mr Muscle is very caustic and WILL BURN - if you get it on your skin, rinse off immediately. Others have used Strip-a-kit, which I beleive is citrus oil based and less caustic Dave Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:08:30 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: Re: Talking of Crowood books Message-ID: <3CECCBFF0000B1B8@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) David, Ordered the RAF book for GBP 12 from a store in UK. Came out a lot less than ordering in the US. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:07:50 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: Matt has: "... been in contact with Memorial Flight who is going to start refurbishing a 1.B2." This is good news... with whom have you been corresponding at La Ferte Alais? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:21:38 -0500 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: More uploads Message-ID: Vaclav, great work on the scratchbuilt airplanes. I found this site for at least some pictures of the Bleriot XII, http://www.archivebritain.com/early_aviation.htm It's a CD you have to buy, but it certainly looks interesting. Please, please share some of your techniques, your detail work is incredible. thanks for sharing Mack -----Original Message----- From: hochmuth@nextra.sk [mailto:hochmuth@nextra.sk] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: More uploads Thanks to everybody for the appreciation. (At least my only new model is the Curtiss RR finished few week ago) Now I am planning to build another airplane from the Rheims meeting. Could someone help me with Bleriot XII ? I have found a couple of good photos on the web (one showing its ENV V8 engine) but I am searching for the plans and more photos of the engine and the area around the pilot seat. Vaclav > > >Lastly, a new modeler joins the Gallery. Vaclav Hochmuth sends > >in a bunch of his models. Most stunning are his scratchbuilt > >pre-war aircraft. Awesome!! > > Wow. The scratchbuilds are fantastic. Vaclav, are you out there? Speak > up...... > > Cheers, > > Nigel R > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:35:53 -0400 From: ssh To: wwi-list Subject: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: <3CECCBFF0000D489@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Hello all, Lance, Paul, Andreas, I am trying to make sense of the FE2b rigging. The Datafile is quite useful, but I still have a few questions. , anybody who has built the Fe2b, can you help? 1- The forward cabane strut top end : 3 wires are anchored here. One goes to the inner front interplane-strut bottom-end. Another is tied to the nacelle at the aft end in the engine bay (same side). Where does the 3rd wire go? The DF GA seems to suggests that it is anchored to the top of the nacelle on the centerline, behind the pilot - but this does not seem to be confirmed by any of the photos. 2- Aileron control cable, I thought I had figured this, but now I am not so sure. I had thought that the cable comes out the nacelle side, enters the lower wing leading edge through a hole, to a pulley inside the wing, then exits the wing lower surface and ends on the control-horn. Other possibility is : the cable passes below the wing instead of through it. By the way, does anybody have an inventory list of the rigging that they made while building the model? regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:45:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability Message-ID: OK I'll swap my Windsock for your Siemens-Schuckert DIII. Is that a fair swap? Whats your adress? I have next to nothing in 1/48, only an Aurora Albatross 2-seater, and I want a ridiculous amount for it. I know where an Aurora Fokker DVIII is for sale. Best regards Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Sebring [mailto:alleluja@ida.net] > Sent: den 22 maj 2002 15:43 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability > > > Dear Neil, > > Thanks for the reply. I only have Lafayette sheet #66 & the > French roundel > sheet #15-both of these are 1/48. I cannot remember if you > are a bi-scaler > or not...;-) > > I do have a Toko Snipe, N.11, N.16 & SS D.III if they will help. > > If you have 1/48 kits to swap for 1/72, perhaps we can do > some trading. > > Best to you, > Dale > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:36:39 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <200205231017.08576.larrym@sympatico.ca> > I use Mr Muscle Oven cleaner (Caustic Soda/NaOH based), give it a spray, > leave it for 45 minutes then rinse off under the tap. WARNING - Wear gloves Someone else had mentioned NaOH and since I have a Roden DVII with my skin attached to it I put it to use as an 'experiment.' Here's what I did last night. 1) Grabbed a can of Drano crystals (solid NaOH). 2) Dumped some in a glass bowl. Added some water and produced a concentrated NaOH solution (still some crystals in the bottom) 3) I brushed the solution onto the lower wing panel (even experimentalists have to start slow). I left it there a couple minutes. 4) Using an old toothbrush, I started brushing it. The paint came off immediately and the plastic didn't melt. 5) Brushed the solution over the rest of the plane (had already removed the tail pieces as they are truly salvagable). In less than 10 minutes I had the model clean and I'd even cleaned the tail pieces. The only 'glitch' in this approach is that CA (and skin) protects the paint against NaOH so this stuff doesn't get removed. I assume that most folks don't make a habit of drenching the front of their model with CA so that's probably not a big problem. For anyone wanting to try this sort of thing, I'd second the notion of gloves. Safety goggles are a good thing too. It's also important when working with NaOH to have decent ventilation. Personally, I have no idea what long-term exposure to NaOH would do to styrene but when I finished this process I ran the parts under a stream of water until I couldn't feel any of the slippery feel that NaOH gives to things. Then I dropped them in a bowl of clean water just to make sure I'd removed all residue. > Others have used Strip-a-kit, which I beleive is citrus oil based and less > caustic >From what I can see, a strong NaOH solution is just the thing. Works much better than my recollection of brake fluid paint stripping. The Drano approach sounds quicker than the Mr. Muscle approach but N=1 in the experiment :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:41:02 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: kits and books Message-ID: I visited our second-hand aviation bookshop yesterday. I noted the following OT items (and some ot) is there anything I ought to buy? Aurora 1/48 Fokker DVIII 140SEK Keilkraft ditto 100SEK Heller DH89 Dragon-Rapide 100SEK Heller Nieuport-Delage NiD622 50SEK (nearly OT, its a Nieuport for heavens sake) Revell Spad 13 and Camel 40-50SEK Books and here's something FMP Russian Imperial Air service 730SEK Austro-Hungarian aces 500SEK VC (the one with Bobs profiles) 320SEK and another nearly the same as the VC 320SEK book also soft-bound, but I clean forgot what it was!) So why didn't I buy the lot?, well I just spent 2000SEK at the Stockholm show,, that was my birthday present for 2006, so I have to lie low for a while. The FMP books I will try and get evetntually. I just bought my usual pack of Aeroplane Monthly and an Osprey book about the Devastator (sorry). /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:42:52 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability Message-ID: Bother, sorry should have been off-list /neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:39:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: The French Strutter at Le Bourget is light yellow - probably like unbleached linen peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:44:49 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , , Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: Thanks to Mark and Lance for the responses. Now the hard part: Where can a guy like me track down sets of these drawings? I've contacted Model Airplane News and they can't help me. Any ideas? TIA- KA "I compared the Hardesty n17 drawings to the plans made by the Germans from a captured A/C (posted on the Nieuport pages) and they matched up just about perfectly. Mark" "I've used his drawings of the earlier Nieuports and found them to be quite good, and his details were supported by the photos I found. I'm certainly no expert, but I believe that Hardesty did a good job. Lance" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:45:59 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: kits and books Message-ID: Forgot to write to divide prices in SEK by 10 to get dollars, so the Aurora D8 was about 14 USdollars /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:55:44 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings Message-ID: <010401c20269$eaae2c60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Some old OT drawings are in the book "Scale Aircraft Drawings: World War One" I bought my copy back in 1998 in the museum shop of NASM for a decent price. There's works of many different artists and some of the drawings have been declared innacurate as new info was collected. Wich airplane drawings are you looking for? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Acosta To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Question on OT Hardesty Drawings > Thanks to Mark and Lance for the responses. Now the hard part: Where can a guy like me track down sets of these drawings? I've contacted Model Airplane News and they can't help me. Any ideas? > TIA- > KA > > "I compared the Hardesty n17 drawings to the plans made by the Germans from a captured A/C (posted on the Nieuport pages) and they matched up just about perfectly. > Mark" > > "I've used his drawings of the earlier Nieuports and found them to be quite good, and his details were supported by the photos I found. > I'm certainly no expert, but I believe that Hardesty did a good job. > Lance" > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 01:39:36 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: RE: French Strutters Message-ID: <002801c20270$0bd07a00$725032d2@default> Larry; Also when using Mr Muscle make sure all apertures (cockpit, little hole for prop, and any others are sealed as best you can. Why? because if you don't, your cockpit interior will damaged or ruined as the Mr Muscle and its fumes will attack this paint also. How do I know this Grasshopper? Don't ask. However I do still use it as it is effective and harmless to the plastic. All the Best Neil E ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: French Strutters > > Quoting Larry Marshall : > > > > > Speaking of which...what's the best stuff for taking Humbrol off of > > Roden > > plastic? When I built before we used brake fluid. Something better? > > > > I use Mr Muscle Oven cleaner (Caustic Soda/NaOH based), give it a spray, leave > it for 45 minutes then rinse off under the tap. WARNING - Wear gloves & cover > any arms skin etc - Mr Muscle is very caustic and WILL BURN - if you get it on > your skin, rinse off immediately. > > Others have used Strip-a-kit, which I beleive is citrus oil based and less > caustic > > Dave Fleming > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:47:24 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: FE2.b rigging question Message-ID: Sanjeev, I can check what I did, but I recall that: "1- The forward cabane ... is anchored to the top of the nacelle on the centerline..." I think it looks like this (and would be done so on a plastic model), but my take is that the line passes through the cowl and anchors on the longeron at the base of the forward cabane on the opposing side; see if a continuation of the line would not indicate this to you. "2- Aileron control cable... passes below the wing instead of through it." I am relatively sure of this. I cannot recall whether the cable passes though fairleads along the leading edge or behind it, but am sure that it is an exterior run. All the power for aileron actuation is supplied from the underneath, the long connecting run on the top wing being just the continuation of the loop to the opposite aileron. I'll double check, but am 90% sure... Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4429 **********************