WWI Digest 4422 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: New upload by "Daniel Munoz" 2) Re: The hedge hopper by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 3) Re: New upload by Allan Wright 4) Re: The hedge hopper by "Diego Fernetti" 5) RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa by Volker Haeusler 6) RE: New upload by Larry Marshall 7) RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa by Volker Haeusler 8) Hyperscale Reviews of Roden Albatros by "Brian Nicklas" 9) RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 10) AH Naval Phonix D.IIa - question II by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 11) RE: New upload by "NEIL EDDY" 12) RE: New upload by tbittners@sprintmail.com 13) Re: Nieuport 11 help / modellers block Longish by "Ray Boorman" 14) Re: silence by KarrArt@aol.com 15) RE: New upload by ssh 16) Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability by "Dale Sebring" 17) RE: New upload by "Daniel Munoz" 18) Re: M.V.R.'s 425/17 Dr.1 and much confusion?? by "Marek Mincbergr" 19) Re: M.V.R.'s 425/17 Dr.1 and much confusion?? by bill anthony 20) Re: silence by "Dale Sebring" 21) Re: silence by "Diego Fernetti" 22) Re: Oil washes: Re: Very Quiet Today by "Hans Trauner" 23) RE: New upload by "David C. Fletcher" 24) Re: silence by "David C. Fletcher" 25) New Roden Rumor? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 26) Re: New Roden Rumor? by Allan Wright 27) Re: New Roden Rumor? by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 28) Re: New Roden Rumor? by vihonen@mappi.helsinki.fi 29) Looking For a 1/72 Sopwith Triplane by "Richard Bilak" 30) RE:Oil Washes by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:39:07 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <000a01c20089$d358b1c0$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> Matt, when I started my ship model exposition on my web site some visitors had problems with the popup window opened each time there was a click on a thumbnail. I think is was because they used some filtering way of preventing this, to block popup spam, virus or whatever. Programs that block the opening of popup windows to prevent unsolicited publicity are more and more common, and badly configured they certainly cause erratic behaviors. Now with the new scheme I adopted, all seem better, no one complained (yet!) See here: http://www.nutsnbits.com/treasure_museum.htm No need to click on the back button, as all the thumbnail pictures stay in a separate frame. But this use the frame property of HTML, with its own bag of compatibility problems with old browsers. Don't ask me own the HTML for my page is done, I have no idea ! You certainly know better than me. I use a WYSIWYG editor that hide nicely all the HTML gibberish for me. Cheers, Daniel. > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Bittner > Sent: May 21, 2002 6:35 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] New upload > > > Administration question: Would listees rather see the "full > size" images come up in the same browser window as the page > you're in, or would you rather see the "full size" image pop > open in another window? I hope this makes sense. The first > way requires you to click the "Back" button to return to the > person's page. The second method requires you to close down > the window with the image in it. For those of us using > Dreamweaver it's not a difficult thing to add. Al, on the > other hand... ;-) > > Also note that if you like the images popping open in a new > window, we will *not* go in and change all pages at once. > More like (maybe) change the page as something is added to that page. > > Just an idea... > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:07:09 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: The hedge hopper Message-ID: <1021986429.3cea467de41c2@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Diego Fernetti : > Dave > > > No such luck - work trip to Bath. > > It was about time, chap. ;-) > D. I just set 'em up for you to knock 'em down !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New upload Message-ID: <200205211311.JAA58766@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > I think Bill Arnold is replacing Dennis as the lists' most > prolific modeler. I just uploaded a new Roden Fokker D.VII to > his area. Excellent job!! > > Administration question: Would listees rather see the "full > size" images come up in the same browser window as the page > you're in, or would you rather see the "full size" image pop open > in another window? I hope this makes sense. The first way > requires you to click the "Back" button to return to the person's > page. The second method requires you to close down the window > with the image in it. For those of us using Dreamweaver it's not > a difficult thing to add. Al, on the other hand... ;-) I can handle either just as easy as dreamweaver can (in this case). But there are more and more browser plug-ins that are stopping pop-up windows so we may want to stick with the button approach. Just my vote, I'm willing to hear what others think. > Also note that if you like the images popping open in a new > window, we will *not* go in and change all pages at once. More > like (maybe) change the page as something is added to that page. Agreed. allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:14:17 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: The hedge hopper Message-ID: <025a01c200c9$69a76600$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > I just set 'em up for you to knock 'em down !! We should play for the same football team. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:26:24 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa Message-ID: Grzegorz, > Who knows accurate, confirmed painting scheme for AH Naval Phonix D.IIa? > I've heard somewhere that MAC's scheme isn't accurate, but I'm not sure if > it's true. try to get: a) OeFH (Oesterrreichische FlugzeugHistoriker) Nachrichten Sonderheft 10: Phoenix Marine-Jagdeinsitzer by Bernhard Toetschinger and Walter Schroeder b) Crosss & Cockade (International) vol 19, no 3, 1988. Contains "Markings and Camouflage of AH Aircraft in WW I" pt. 11 byx Marty O´Connor. That part deals with "Naval Aviation" According to O´Connor (And his sources were intervioews etc with surviving pilots, amongst them Banfield, and *not only* the RG fabric samples as some have claimed) the D I´s had plain fabric wings with wooden fuselages with additional brown mottling (and obviously the red-white-red wing mand tailplane markings). The D III´s were overall grey (Pale Grey 1B1); he does not quote any D IIa camouflage, as he had not seen any photos. ANyway, it seems the AH navy only got 4 D IIa, if I read the OeFH booklet correctly. According to Toetschinger/Schroeder, those D IIa´s were also finished in grey (actually, they say: "ALL later D II and D IIa had the light grey camouflage") Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:25:20 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <200205210925.20950.larrym@sympatico.ca> > when I started my ship model exposition on my web site some visitors had > problems with the popup window opened each time there was a click on a > thumbnail. I think is was because they used some filtering way of This is a good point and, as you say, it will probably get worse as we're all trying to stomp on all those pop up ads. > Now with the new scheme I adopted, all seem better, no one complained > (yet!) See here: > http://www.nutsnbits.com/treasure_museum.htm Let me be the first, though it looks very nice. Other than the basic criticism that it relies upon frames (I hate frames), if you click on several of the images, you can't get back to the original text frame without pressing the Back button once for each photo. This is probably a minor problem for what you're displaying but in the WWI galleries, that text is the explanation of the photos. > No need to click on the back button, as all the thumbnail pictures stay > in a separate frame. But this use the frame property of HTML, with its > own bag of compatibility problems with old browsers. A bigger problem with frames is how errors in the code propagate and are sometimes hard to trace. It just makes development more complicated unless you're relying completely on a GUI editor and then you end up with twice the required code imbedded in your application...again making it hard to debug. > Don't ask me own the HTML for my page is done, I have no idea ! You > certainly know better than me. I use a WYSIWYG editor that hide nicely > all the HTML gibberish for me. See above :-) In truth, however, it's probably the only practical way to do frames...if you insist on doing frames :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:37:13 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa Message-ID: > ANyway, it > seems the AH navy only got 4 D IIa, if I read the OeFH booklet correctly. > According to Toetschinger/Schroeder, those D IIa´s were also finished in > grey (actually, they say: "ALL later D II and D IIa had the light grey > camouflage") > Just an additional remark: A number of publications (amongst them the Schupita book on the AH Seeflieger and the OeFH booklet I just mentioned) sell "J 31" as a Phoenix D IIa, but according to the dependable findings of Peter Grosz and Peter Schiemer this actually was the first naval D III... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:53:17 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hyperscale Reviews of Roden Albatros Message-ID: Rob Baumgartner reviews three of Roden's newest releases. The review focus is on Roden's 1/72 scale Albatros D.II, D.II Oeffag and D.III. There are large jpegs of the box art, and views of each sprue tree and a scan of the decal sheet, with a list of the subjects. http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/albatrosdiiandiiireviewrb_1.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:54:30 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa Message-ID: <00f601c200d7$69d60ec0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Dear Volker! > try to get: > a) OeFH (Oesterrreichische FlugzeugHistoriker) Nachrichten Sonderheft 10: > b) Crosss & Cockade (International) Hahahahahaha! I'd like to :-) I've never seen any C&C or OeFH, I wonder if any exists somewhere in Poland... But - really many thanks, I know now what to ask for. I have only Phonix D.I/II Datafile by Grosz. > ANyway, it seems the AH navy only got 4 D IIa, Schupita (? - I'm not sure, I have only xerocopy of naval numbers index from a book) gives numbers of 10 naval D.IIa from J.21 to J.30, but serials are really confirmed only for 4 planes (J.21: 422.23; J.24: .42; J.25: .44 and J.30: .07) > According to Toetschinger/Schroeder, those D IIa´s were also finished in > grey (actually, they say: "ALL later D II and D IIa had the light grey > camouflage") You mean really ALL later D.II and D.IIa, or all NAVAL D.II and D.IIa? Very interesting, but they were (according to Datafile) "taken over from the Army", so it suggests that they should have Army camouflage (probably mottled green, or light grey means not naval grey but army grey-dark grey, like Army Phonix D.III). Another question is, what type of crosses, where positioned, and what with red-white-red bands? >A number of publications (amongst them the Schupita book on the AH > Seeflieger and the OeFH booklet I just mentioned) sell "J 31" as a Phoenix D > IIa, but according to the dependable findings of Peter Grosz and Peter > Schiemer this actually was the first naval D III... This is right, as Datafile contains photo of J.31, which is definitely D.III. Thanks again! Grzegorz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:13 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: AH Naval Phonix D.IIa - question II Message-ID: <010601c200d7$caa3db60$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi List! Who's got following references, and can help? Please, contact me off list. > a) OeFH (Oesterrreichische FlugzeugHistoriker) Nachrichten Sonderheft 10: > Phoenix Marine-Jagdeinsitzer by Bernhard Toetschinger and Walter > Schroeder > b) Crosss & Cockade (International) vol 19, no 3, 1988. Contains > "Markings and Camouflage of AH Aircraft in WW I" pt. 11 byx Marty > O´Connor. That part deals with "Naval Aviation" Thanks! Grzegorz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 01:04:26 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <001c01c200d8$cd949d40$32ac86cb@default> Matt; Yes, I agree with Diego...leave it as is - its easier. All the Best Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" > > > Administration question: Would listees rather see the "full > > size" images come up in the same browser window as the page > > you're in, or would you rather see the "full size" image pop open > > in another window? > > I like things as they are, because I like to see all the images of a model > in a page, and this will cause me to open too many windows at the same time > and therefore slowing down the download time. One by one I can see all of > them in almost no time and pushing the "back" button isn't more annoying > than closing all the new windows once seen. > Another thing is the detail pictures accompanying the texts on IM, where I > like to see the pictures in a different window of the article, so I can read > and check the big picture at the same time. > Just my 2 devaluated pesos > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <20020521152133.8CFAE46E7E@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 21 May 2002 11:05:45 -0400 (EDT), NEIL EDDY wrote: >Yes, I agree with Diego...leave it as is - its easier. Sounds like it. It was an idea, but I'll leave it as it is now. Now to find those "real photo" pages I already dinked with... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 08:28:24 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport 11 help / modellers block Longish Message-ID: <005a01c200dc$265b06a0$051335d1@bconnected.net> Neil and Diego posted lots of common sense which I will take with no arguments, and an explanation of Charge Maxima > PS I agree with Diego, it was Rene Fonck's phone number. I think it read > "For a good time, call Rene, Paris 1232" or somesuch...now where did I read > that? :-) I thought the Charge Maxima was an early corporate logo for the Nieuport chargecard with the card number just below.... Usefull for when you go through those fastfood drive throughs in Verdun. Sheesh and there I was thinking Charge Maxima was charge to the limit! ;) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:38:59 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: silence Message-ID: <1a0.28d4c68.2a1bc413@aol.com> In a message dated 5/20/02 11:22:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << Mike F. (a.k.a. "Nieuport") should be out of hospital about mid-week all being well. Dave Fletcher >> Great News! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:43:00 -0400 From: ssh To: Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <3CEA2900000134FB@mta04.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Matt, Have you seen the Rosbud site? He (she?) displays the full image in a separate browser window - but always the same one. The advantage is that you can place the two browser windows side by side and easily browse through them (click on the link on the left, and view the image on the right). This is useful if you have a whole lot of image links on the main page, and not very useful if there are only a handful of links/thumbnails on the main page. Personally, I prefer the image popping up in a separate window, that way I can read the text and view the image at the same time. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:41:22 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Swapping was:RE: Re: Eduard availability Message-ID: <002501c200dd$f6930d80$0100a8c0@RDS> Hi Neil, I have not heard from you about a swap of your Windsock. If you still are interested in a swap please let me know. Best regards, Dale Sebring ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:00:09 -0400 From: "Daniel Munoz" To: Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <000401c200e0$959094f0$0a00a8c0@bigbazar> SSH, Just to let you know that a single popup where all large pictures where show again and again was the method I firstly used on my site. Some visitors had problems even with that single popup. Sorry I must have been more precise in my description. Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org] On Behalf Of ssh > Sent: May 21, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: New upload > > > Matt, > Have you seen the Rosbud site? He (she?) displays the full image > in a separate browser window - but always the same one. The > advantage is that you can place the two browser windows side by side > and easily browse through them (click on the link on the left, and > view the image on the right). > This is useful if you have a whole lot of image links on the main > page, and not very useful if there are only a handful of > links/thumbnails on the main page. > > Personally, I prefer the image popping up in a separate window, that > way I can read the text and view the image at the same time. > regards SSH > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 06:33:07 +0200 From: "Marek Mincbergr" To: Subject: Re: M.V.R.'s 425/17 Dr.1 and much confusion?? Message-ID: <000901c200e1$4e9f4ea0$57620bd4@j> Hello, I don`t have your book, but from my references (Czech isuue of Der rotte Kampfflieger and Fokker Dr.I Aces of WWI) is clear this: During March and begining of April his all-red 425/17 has Iron croses on eight positions, all with white border. Rudder was red. During April Iron crosses were changed to new type by OVERPAINTING old ones. It means, that black parts of new crosses have been equal in wide with the widest part of old crosses. That means the bottom of Iron crosses. Then white outline has been added. Rudder was changed to white. But the story continues. Look at the foto with guards. The uniforms are German, so the triplane is not captured. And it is 425/17 after landing in terain. But check the crosses. On the wings, you can see field modification as described above (wide black crosses of new type). But because this interpretation of orders was wrong, such a crosses were changed to correct with more thinner black part. This correction has been applied on fuselage and rudder. And it looks, there was no time to change crosses on wing because of destruction of 425/17 and death of his pilot. Sorry, I am not 1/72 (only 1/48), so I don`t know, which crosses are in which model. BR Marek > Hello Gang, > Does anyone know which crosses were actually on > MVR’s 425/17 come the time of his death in > April 1918??? :( > Does anyone know the correctness of Eduards strange > two cross decal scheme for markings for 425/17 come > March 1918?? > Where the crosses changed in April? > Also, I have been looking at a picture in Peter > Kilduff’s “The Red Baron, Beyond the Legend” which > states that it is MRV’s 425/17 right before his death. > But I did see this in another book, which stated that > this was actually a captured Dr1 and not MRV’s 425/17. > (For reference I mean the picture of the DR.1 with > guards next to it, one on each side, and a person > standing next to the cockpit.) > Thanks for any information, > Bill Anthony > P.S. Yes I do not know the correct names for the > German crosses other than the Maltese cross. So > please do not hesitate to inform me on the correct > names. : ) > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: M.V.R.'s 425/17 Dr.1 and much confusion?? Message-ID: <20020521165627.79453.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Marek, Thanks. As long as it is agreed that the picture is of MVR's 425/17 then I am happy. I atleast have the right crosses on the wings of my 1.72 Dr1. Maybe a little to big, but they are the right ones! Thanks for the help : ) Bill Anthony --- Marek Mincbergr wrote: > > Hello, > > I don`t have your book, but from my references > (Czech isuue of Der rotte > Kampfflieger and Fokker Dr.I Aces of WWI) is clear > this: > > During March and begining of April his all-red > 425/17 has Iron croses on > eight positions, all with white border. Rudder was > red. During April Iron > crosses were changed to new type by OVERPAINTING old > ones. It means, that > black parts of new crosses have been equal in wide > with the widest part of > old crosses. That means the bottom of Iron crosses. > Then white outline has > been added. Rudder was changed to white. But the > story continues. > > Look at the foto with guards. The uniforms are > German, so the triplane is > not captured. And it is 425/17 after landing in > terain. But check the > crosses. On the wings, you can see field > modification as described above > (wide black crosses of new type). But because this > interpretation of orders > was wrong, such a crosses were changed to correct > with more thinner black > part. This correction has been applied on fuselage > and rudder. And it looks, > there was no time to change crosses on wing because > of destruction of 425/17 > and death of his pilot. > > Sorry, I am not 1/72 (only 1/48), so I don`t know, > which crosses are in > which model. > > BR > Marek > > > > > Hello Gang, > > Does anyone know which crosses were actually on > > MVR’s 425/17 come the time of his death in > > April 1918??? :( > > Does anyone know the correctness of Eduards > strange > > two cross decal scheme for markings for 425/17 > come > > March 1918?? > > Where the crosses changed in April? > > Also, I have been looking at a picture in Peter > > Kilduff’s “The Red Baron, Beyond the Legend” which > > states that it is MRV’s 425/17 right before his > death. > > But I did see this in another book, which stated > that > > this was actually a captured Dr1 and not MRV’s > 425/17. > > (For reference I mean the picture of the DR.1 > with > > guards next to it, one on each side, and a person > > standing next to the cockpit.) > > Thanks for any information, > > Bill Anthony > > P.S. Yes I do not know the correct names for the > > German crosses other than the Maltese cross. So > > please do not hesitate to inform me on the correct > > names. : ) > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:55:49 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: silence Message-ID: <000701c200e8$5cbe8e40$0100a8c0@RDS> Best wishes & a quick recovery Mike. Dale Sebring > Mike F. (a.k.a. "Nieuport") should be out of hospital about mid-week all > being well. > > Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:03:25 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: silence Message-ID: <034001c200e9$6bd81b20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Sebring > Best wishes & a quick recovery Mike. Heard that Nieuports had a nasty spin ;-) Get well soon Mike! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:30:27 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Oil washes: Re: Very Quiet Today Message-ID: <002f01c200ed$3273e360$3cab72d4@FRITZweb> All my washes are white spirit/ oil washes. I 'remove' mine in the most cases. After the white spirit has begun to evaporate I remove the rest with a flat, broad, soft brush. It minimised the risk of getting blotchy and if you remove the residue in 'flight direction' you'll get a very subtle but convincing weathering. On fuselages I often use the 'rain direction', i.e. slight angle backwards as if the plane stands on the ground an the water is running down. Don't overdo, as WWI birds had their tents and hangars, but sometimes they got wet and dusty. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:16:12 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: <3CEA80DC.1070405@mars.ark.com> NEIL EDDY wrote: > Matt; > > Yes, I agree with Diego...leave it as is - its easier. Ditto. Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:34:42 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: silence Message-ID: <3CEA8532.6090605@mars.ark.com> Diego Fernetti wrote: >>Best wishes & a quick recovery Mike. > Heard that Nieuports had a nasty spin ;-) > Get well soon Mike! Thanks to Diego, Pedro, Dale, Robert and any I may have missed - I have passed on your messages to Mike (a.k.a. "Nieuport"). Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New Roden Rumor? Message-ID: <20020521182357.D38AE46BB0@eclipse.qis.net> Just read this on the Aerodrome Forum. Someone is claiming that Roden is going to release a 1/72nd SE5a "sometime this year". Definitely good news, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not that I would buy any, but it's still good news. :-) Hopefully means Roden is pulling themselves out of the German quagmire... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:35:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Roden Rumor? Message-ID: <200205211835.OAA50484@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Hmmmm...... Anyone want to buy some Revell or Esci Se5a kits? I think I have a dozen in my closet! Allan > Just read this on the Aerodrome Forum. Someone is claiming that Roden is going to release a 1/72nd SE5a "sometime this year". > > Definitely good news, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not that I would buy any, but it's still good news. :-) Hopefully means Roden is pulling themselves out of the German quagmire... > > > Matt Bittner > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:41:40 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: New Roden Rumor? Message-ID: <005301c200f7$26224f20$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > > Just read this on the Aerodrome Forum. Someone is claiming > that Roden is going to release a 1/72nd SE5a "sometime this year". (...) > Hopefully means Roden is pulling themselves out of the German > quagmire... They are already doing it, but no one warned them those Sopwiths were in the wrong scale... All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:05:23 +0300 (EEST) From: vihonen@mappi.helsinki.fi To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Roden Rumor? Message-ID: <1022007923.3cea9a736a640@www.Helsinki.FI> > > Hopefully means Roden is pulling themselves out of the German > > quagmire... > > They are already doing it, but no one warned them those Sopwiths were in > the > wrong scale... > Nah. They already did Strutters. Though that was in the time they still called themselves Toko. ;-) Jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:24:27 -0800 From: "Richard Bilak" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Looking For a 1/72 Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: <000101c200fd$207d3e80$167eed18@bilak.micronet.net> Greetings, I'm looking for a Revell 1/72 Sopwith Triplane. Should be easy to find, right? Not so. What I have to trade is this: Eduard 1/72 Fokker Dr.I profipack kit Also I would like to get the resin1/72 Sopwith Dolphin, I know that the kit is available, however if anyone would like to trade I go thru my stash and see what I have. I would also like to trade for the following Joystick 1/72 kits: Beardmore WB.III Sopwith Batboat Let me know what you are looking for. I also have some vac kits. Thanks for looking, Rick Bilak Anchorage, Alaska ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:29:54 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE:Oil Washes Message-ID: I'm a regular oil washer, too, and about the only thing I can add to the previous discussions on this subject would be: If you are washing over a matte finish, you will achieve much more dramatic staining than you will over a gloss finish. Naturally, this can be a good thing or a bad thing... I frequently use a lint-free cloth to help wipe off the stain in the direction of the airflow, and am willing to rub quite vigorously, relying on the acryllic protection of the color coat to stand up to the solvents and the abrasion. And I have been willing to use dramatic colors in the wash, knowing I could wipe almost all of it off, even from a matte surface. My most recent build, for instance, used heavy black, green, and brown washes over a fuselage that was largely white. 99 per cent of the wash ended up in the pads I used to rub it off. Experiment on an old kit before you adapt this technique, but it IS largely reversable. YMMV, of course. Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4422 **********************