WWI Digest 4398 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: Building the Roden Albatros D.I by "Brent Theobald" 3) Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! by "Diego Fernetti" 4) W.A. Yeulett DFC by "Harris, Mack" 5) Re: Roseplane New Kit by "Brent Theobald" 6) Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 7) Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! by "Michael Kendix" 8) Re: Roseplane New Kit by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: Building the Roden Albatros D.I by "Brent Theobald" 10) R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 11) Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) by bill anthony 12) Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by "Michael Kendix" 13) Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by "Michael Kendix" 14) Weekend Unsub by "Dave Burke" 15) Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! by "Diego Fernetti" 16) R: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 17) Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by Dennis Ugulano 18) Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 19) Fwd: H.G. Hannants 'Hot News Sheet' May 10th by Dave Fleming 20) R: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 21) Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) by "Lance Krieg" 23) Unbelievable... by "Steve Johnston" 24) Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) by bill anthony 25) RE: A fellow modeler wanna know... by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 26) RE: A fellow modeler wanna know... by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 27) re: Polish E.V's by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 28) Re: Polish E.V's by "Thomas Solinski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:16:46 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <200205101117_MC3-FD5D-C558@compuserve.com> Alberto, >> Does anyone know who did the masters for the above named kit ? << Looking at the kit the initials on the sheet are L & JC. I never noticed that before. The plot thickens. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 03/10/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:21:06 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Building the Roden Albatros D.I Message-ID: Howdy! >So, maybe it's a good idea to buy the Choroszy D.I/D.II? :-) Hah! Maybe so. After I complete my Roden and Pegasus kits perhaps I'll join one of these group purchases. Remember, we received a wholesale discount once? Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:24:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! Message-ID: <031201c1f836$ceeac7a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Brent! > What a rotten book. Certainly, "Canvas Falcons" sounds unispiring from the start. What a lame title! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:19:43 -0500 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "World War I (E-mail)" Subject: W.A. Yeulett DFC Message-ID: Hadn't seen this before. http://www.casey.tgis.co.uk/web/dfc/wayphotos.htm Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:25:32 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roseplane New Kit Message-ID: Howdy! That looks nice Barry. Who mastered it? Anyone we know? Although, I must lament *another* French kit being released. There are still a few German varients that have only been released once or twice in two scales. *When* will the manufacturers stop this French bias? You'd think the French were the only ones flying! Sheesh! Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:30:25 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <1021044625.3cdbe7910a7bb@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Volker Haeusler : > Dave said: > > > > > Does anyone know who did the masters for the above named kit ? > > > > > > > Don't have it to hand, but IIRC it was Les Cooper - Does it have > > LC on the > > plastic sheet ? > > > > David Fleming > > > Same here - just came back from work, and I´m not in the mood to look > for > the kit. But the chances are: > > Joe Chubbock (that´s what I thought) - JC on the sheet > Les Cooper - LC on the sheet, in a typical distribution (IIRC, the C is > always smaller and inside/above the L) > but who was the third guy: something with "A" - GA or DA; really can´t > remember his real name now, but he also did some masters (and wasn´t it > him > ewho really ran Joystick?) > 'DA' - some of the earlier ones were JC & DA - just looked in my OT vacs box, and whilst the Nie is missing (!) the Morane released at the same time has no authorship on the sheet, just the aircraft title (on a dymo tape based mould !!) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:34:16 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! Message-ID: >From: "Diego Fernetti" >Certainly, "Canvas Falcons" sounds unispiring from the start. What a >lame >title! Well, I think it's not really a good idea to judge a book by its title (Fernetti) or a general by the prominence of his chin (Horne). Thus, I feel that any correlation between these factors and "Quality" of whatever, is spurious and after-the-fact sort of wisdom. That being said, Canvas Falcons contain many things that are not correct. On the other hand, it was on sale, I was on a 4 hours trip to New York City and that was what was at hand. I found it entertaining and well written but then I knew even less about the WWI air war then than I do now. I do not recommend anyone buy it - if you're curious I will lend it but you have to come over to my house or to an IPMS DC meeting and pick it up! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:34:31 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Roseplane New Kit Message-ID: <032201c1f838$2dd6e680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Brento wrote: > Although, I must lament *another* French kit being released. There are still > a few German varients that have only been released once or twice in two > scales. *When* will the manufacturers stop this French bias? You'd think the > French were the only ones flying! Sheesh! Hear, hear! The masses are asking for a Naglo Quadruplane!!!!!! NA-GLO! NA-GLO! NA-GLO! NA-GLO! (sound of mob approaching) D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:34:02 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Building the Roden Albatros D.I Message-ID: Howdy Robert, >The good news is that it's all down hill from there. Hah hah! Yup, once I replace the fuse detail all I have to do is the woodgrain finish. That's my favorite part! I haven't decided exactly who's markings to do yet. You? Didn't you win a kit from Wind Sock recently? Have a good one! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:36:40 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F072B@SERVER1> Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course.... Thanks, Dennis ! Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Dennis Ugulano Inviato: venerdì 10 maggio 2002 17.20 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Alberto, >> Does anyone know who did the masters for the above named kit ? << Looking at the kit the initials on the sheet are L & JC. I never noticed that before. The plot thickens. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 03/10/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) Message-ID: <20020510154615.24067.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Lance, The problem is that this is the second repair to that area. I did fill that area and sand it, but did not go a good job of repainting that area. Unfortunately it did not match the rest of the plane and the layer of paint I added was too thick. To add to the problem is that I like to lighten the top last layer of paint to replicate sun fading. Unfortunately I finally got the paint to match but it was still obvious since the new layer of paint over the old area was too large. Unfortunately my actions last night truly made the situation worse and now the affected area is much larger and obvious. In truth you are right, but unfortunately I did not do a good job on my initial repair of the damage. Actually I am considering keeping on the wing and just taking off the ailerons. Then I can firmly grasp the top wing and try to strip the paint off. If I do a good job of stripping the paint off then there will be no need to tear off the wing. Unfortunately I have so may layers of paint and future on the plane that I am afraid anything less of redoing the top wing will be obvious. Thanks, Bill A. The heated razor blade was to get the stretched sprue for rigging taught. Should have used a needle. --- Lance Krieg wrote: > Bill struggles to retrieve the situation: > > "... do you think I could keep the wing on?" > > Because this is a Dr.I in 1/72, I would think it > possible to just > repair a section > of the wing while it remains attached. > > If I understand the problem aright, there is a scar > on the top wing > which needs to be sanded out, and possibly filled. > Why strip the paint? > Mask around the damaged area, fill/sand, remove the > masks and repaint > that corner of the plane, replacing the decal if it > is destroyed in the > process. > > Hell, I do this all the time, since there always > seems to be some > late-project damage to some part or another. > > I WOULD like to know why a heated razor blade was > involved, though. > > Lance > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:47:13 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: >From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:38:47 -0400 (EDT) > >Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course.... > >Thanks, Dennis ! > >Alberto > > >-----Messaggio originale----- >Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Dennis >Ugulano >Inviato: venerdì 10 maggio 2002 17.20 >A: Multiple recipients of list >Oggetto: [WWI] Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker > > >Alberto, > > >> Does anyone know who did the masters for the above named kit ? << > > Looking at the kit the initials on the sheet are L & JC. I never >noticed that before. The plot thickens. > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com >http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm >Page Revised 03/10/2002 >"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." >--- >[Questa mail e' stata controllata dai >software antivirus e antispamming di >Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > > >--- >[Questa mail e' stata controllata dai >software antivirus e antispamming di >Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:48:08 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: Sorry about the non-message previously. It stands for Les (Cooper) and Joe Chubbock Michael >From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it >Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course.... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:00:54 -0500 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Weekend Unsub Message-ID: <007501c1f83b$ddf71140$6173fea9@s0024008072> Hey Guys, Punching out for the weekend and the long trip on the 'cycle. Be back Monday. Play nice! DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:51:22 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! Message-ID: <033a01c1f83a$88945a60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael wrote: > Well, I think it's not really a good idea to judge a book by its title > (Fernetti) I agree, but my remark was aimed that not even the title of the book was good. Examples of poorly named *excellent* books are a lot -right now I just can recall "three Musketeers" when from the start they were four!- I am an avid reader and I've read a lot of corny or innacurate books, but to me the worst fault in any literature is the uninteresting literature, be it fictional or essay. And I don't even get mad with the book, but with the author and the publisher, who stole my time, my attention and the few coins it may have costed! IMHO D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:51:48 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F072C@SERVER1> Thanks Michael ! Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Michael Kendix Inviato: venerdì 10 maggio 2002 17.49 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Sorry about the non-message previously. It stands for Les (Cooper) and Joe Chubbock Michael >From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it >Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course.... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:57:22 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <200205101157_MC3-FD5D-C6D3@compuserve.com> Alberto, >> Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course... << I know Les Cooper but was not aware of a Joe Cooper. BTW, Alberto, I don't think I thanked you properly for the information you provided me when I was building my 27. You alerted me to the fact that the decal sheet was reversed. It was a pain but I put the colors in the proper order and I do like the way it looks. It's over on my page under French. Thank you very much. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 03/10/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:00:24 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <1021046424.3cdbee98c74ac@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it: > Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course.... > Or a Joe Chubbock mould finished by Les Cooper ? David Fleming ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:06:44 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: Fwd: H.G. Hannants 'Hot News Sheet' May 10th Message-ID: <1021046804.3cdbf0140f371@netmail.pipex.net> For interest. ----- Forwarded message from The Office ----- Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:05:18 +0100 From: The Office Reply-To: sales@hannants.co.uk Subject: H.G. Hannants 'Hot News Sheet' May 10th To: hannants_mailer@mail.hannants.co.uk Delivered by May 10th EAGLE STRIKE ESP48079 1:48 Albatross D.V (5) Lt Walter Bring Jasta 76b; Gerhard Hubrich, See frosta 1; Lt Weber Jadta 84; Lt von Schnebeck Jasta 11; Ernst Clausnitzer Jasta 4 £8.20 £6.98 ESP48080 1:48 Fokker D.VII Pt 2 (4) Max Holtzen Jasta 16B; Robert von Greim Jasta 34B; Rudolf Stark Jasta 34B; Xavier Prey Jasta 35B £8.20 £6.98 ESP48081 1:48 "Sopwith Camel Pt 1 (5) B6313 Capt W. Barker 28 Sqn/139 Sqn choice of two versions; B6289 Capt Alexander 10 Naval Sqn; B6398 ""Sylvestra"" 10 Training Depot; D6402/S Capt Woollett 43 Sqn" £8.20 £6.98 RODEN ROD72006 1:72 Albatros D.II £6.49 £5.52 ROD72012 1:72 Albatros D.III £6.49 £5.52 ROD72018 1:72 Albatros D.II £6.49 £5.52 ROD72033 1:72 Fokker D.VII Alb early version £7.25 £6.17 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:18:11 +0200 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F072D@SERVER1> ...and what a nice job you did with the kit ! I am lucky in not having chosen the same finish.... Well done, Dennis, keep up the good work ! All the very best, Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Dennis Ugulano Inviato: venerdì 10 maggio 2002 18.00 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: R: Re: Joystick Ni.27 vac master maker Alberto, >> Could they stand for "Les and Joe Cooper" ? Just guessing of course... << I know Les Cooper but was not aware of a Joe Cooper. BTW, Alberto, I don't think I thanked you properly for the information you provided me when I was building my 27. You alerted me to the fact that the decal sheet was reversed. It was a pain but I put the colors in the proper order and I do like the way it looks. It's over on my page under French. Thank you very much. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 03/10/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:19:39 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Canvas Falcons - Sheesh! Message-ID: >From: "Diego Fernetti" > >Michael wrote: > > Well, I think it's not really a good idea to judge a book by its title > > (Fernetti) > >I agree, but my remark was aimed that not even the title of the book >was >good. Examples of poorly named *excellent* books are a lot -right >now I >just can recall "three Musketeers" when from the start they were >four!- I was being a little too harsh here in my criticism of you. Another example is Dickens' "Great Expectations" which was actually a "Great Disappointment" to me when I was forced to read it, nor did I enjoy the 1930s movie version any better, though it took less to get through. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:41:44 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) Message-ID: Sounds like Michael's suggestion is the way to go; popping off the top wing sounds more traumatic than it is, and since there are only four attachment points and no rigging, the fact that it's a Dr.I is a blessing. Just think of how much you're learning... you get to build the same kit three times! A real money-saver... 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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Stripping my DR1 (suggestion?) Message-ID: <20020510174131.54139.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Lance, Yes, lucky me! :( I might try to keep on the wing depending how the paint stripping goes since I don't really have much sanding to do at all. I did add the wires above the guns though. Bill A. --- Lance Krieg wrote: > Sounds like Michael's suggestion is the way to go; > popping off the top > wing sounds more traumatic than it is, and since > there are only four > attachment points and no rigging, the fact that it's > a Dr.I is a > blessing. > > Just think of how much you're learning... you get to > build the same kit > three times! A real money-saver... > > Lance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:51:34 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: A fellow modeler wanna know... Message-ID: <00a901c1f84b$537819a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hmmm... Goworek's book doesn't say anything about D.VIIs in Japan. Maybe your friend's seen DUTCH D.VIIs with solid dark orange round markings, and thought they were Japanese? G. -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:58:07 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: A fellow modeler wanna know... Message-ID: <006b01c1f84c$3e41b0e0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > Maybe your friend's seen DUTCH D.VIIs with solid dark orange > round markings, > and thought they were Japanese? Hmm, Grzes, makes sense... All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:26:10 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Polish E.V's Message-ID: <014301c1f850$291998a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Mike! > The have the pkane being flown by Stec, but an Article in Insignia say > someone else (Franz Peter, if memory serves > correct). 00.1 plane with horizontal "S", or 00.2 plane with horizontal "8" on fuselage side? At that time we had so few planes that 'personal' planes were not very frequent, so both info can be true. > 1. Underside of fuselage: 4 color upper lozenge or 4 color lower lozenge. I don't know, but it was original German plane, captured in November 1918. > 2. Same question for axel spreader.(No, he's not the leader of a new punk > rock band.) Wasn't that plywood covered? If so, I opt for green, like wings. > 3. Positioning of red/white checkerboards on wings. It looks like top wings > were a mirror image tupe of thing. What about underneath? Which color > should be in the upper left box? Upper surfaces, upper left box: red Lower surfaces the same. 00.1 had 'normal' checkerboards (with outline), 00.2 had on wings checkerboards without outline, not square, but spreading from leading edge to trailing edge. Both planes had outlined checkerboards on fuselage sides, but on the left side checkerboard had upper left square white. Right is unknown (to me), but Stec painted all things on fuselages sides as mirror images, so I expect that on right side there is upper right white. (you can see that on Oeffags D.IIIs from Flik 3J - or you can't, as you sent me all you had about Oeffags ;-) G. -- Encyklopedia multimedialna w prezencie! http://www.e-mail.onet.pl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:44:13 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Polish E.V's Message-ID: <015601c1f852$ae413400$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> > To all those into Polish markings, I need some help. I am making the old > Aurora/K&B E.V. I want to do it in the marking provided on the "Flying > Razors" sheet from Aeromaster. The have the pkane being flown by Stec, but > an Article in Insignia say someone else (Franz Peter, if memory serves > correct). Anyway, here are my questions: > 1. Underside of fuselage: 4 color upper lozenge or 4 color lower lozenge. > 2. Same question for axel spreader.(No, he's not the leader of a new punk > rock band.) I don't have the Aeromaster sheet you are talking about so I don't know the nature of the error. Of the few sources I have Stec's airplane was D-VIII 197/18. Originally shown in standard lozenge and OD wing. So the answer to your first and second questions defalts to LOWER. Stec's personal marking was an "S" laid horizontally with a star shape at the mid point. The Eduard kit for some reason shows an infinity symbol on the kit's box art but has the S on the decals > 3. Positioning of red/white checkerboards on wings. It looks like top wings > were a mirror image tupe of thing. What about underneath? Which color > should be in the upper left box? Polish national markings ALWAYS have the WHITE square inthe upper LEFT box . The controversy I've seen is about when did the counter color band begin use on the national markings. Again eduard shows just the major white/red squares wrapped completely around the wing. But the marking sheet and the profile show the better known smaller squares with contrasting boarders. The Profile also shows the aircraft repainted conventional Polish OD & light blue sometime in 1919. HTH Tom SolinSKI ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4398 **********************