WWI Digest 4383 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Pink or Blue Controversy - take 3 by Steve Cox 2) RE: another update by Mark Miller 3) re: Artillery description by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 4) RE: another update by "Diego Fernetti" 5) Re: Was ist das? by "Pedro Soares" 6) RE: another update by "Pedro Soares" 7) Re: another update - news from Czech. by Witold Kozakiewicz 8) RE: knife basics by "Hans Trauner" 9) Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics by "Hans Trauner" 10) Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics by "Mark C" 11) Re: another update - news from Czech. by "Mark C" 12) Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the b by Balzer Mr Gregory P 13) RE: Back by Dave Fleming 14) Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the b by "Michael Kendix" 15) Artillery pictures again: by Robert Horton* 16) Convite - Palestra Softwares para Arquitetura e Engenharia (Integração AutoCAD - 3DS MAX - Corel Bryce) - Art&Design by "Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda." 17) re: Artillery pictures again: by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 18) Palestra - Integração Adobe Photoshop e Corel Bryce - Art&Design by "Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda." 19) Virus warning! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Re: Virus warning! by "Steven Perry" 21) Re: Virus warning! by Larry Marshall 22) Re: Virus warning! by Al Superczynski 23) Re: Virus warning! by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 24) Re: Virus warning! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Re: Virus warning! by "Bob Pearson" 26) Eduard Dr1 by "charles robinson" 27) My apologizes for the Virus. by "David's Mail" 28) ÓÊÏäÈÝÁ¿¾¯¸æ by caesar@vip.163.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:45:31 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Pink or Blue Controversy - take 3 Message-ID: > Add to that that *EVERY* restored aircraft that has either blue or pink > tapes on it, AFAIK, has just *one* colour of tape. Of course, the curators > of all those museums could be right stupid, far less knowledgeable than we > are. Or not. looking at the Fokker D7 at the RAF museum it has lozenge tapes, pale underneath and dark on top. regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Shane Weier > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 22:07:07 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Pink or Blue Controversy - take 3 > > Paul says: > >> Isn't the tape's main purpose to keep the tacks on the wing ribs from > rubbing a >> tear in the fabric from the normal flexing that the wing would exhibit > while >> flying? > > The vast majority of aircraft had the fabric stitched rather than tacked but > the reason for taping is the same. > > It's there because every hole in the fabric weakens it - at the point of > maximum stress where the rib presses against it. > > The tape is there to strengthen the fabric against tearing where threads > have been cut by needle or tack, to seal the hole against ingress of water, > to protect the stitches themselves and to streamline the surface. > > I originally found this whole subject bloody painfull. After about 15 years > of putting blue on top and pink underneath I discovered that aircraft > existed with blue or pink on both. Made me look at my collection with a > somewhat jaded eye, I can tell you. It's only really since I joined the list > in 1996(??? could it be that long ago?) that I started looking at lots of > photos and discussing this business. And what I found is that I could find a > *few* examples which definitely had the same colour top and bottom, but none > at all which definitely didn't - which was in fact counter to what I wanted > given the way I'd always made my models. Hardly definitive (absence of > evidence etc) but certainly indicative. > > Add to that that *EVERY* restored aircraft that has either blue or pink > tapes on it, AFAIK, has just *one* colour of tape. Of course, the curators > of all those museums could be right stupid, far less knowledgeable than we > are. Or not. > > Anyhoo, Dicta Ira certainly applies, but I do wish I knew exactly where > Superscale got their ideas since that's the only source I had pre-Windsock > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:48:39 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Artillery description Message-ID: <027b01c1f526$418b5fe0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! One in upper-center is exhibited in Warsaw Polish Military Museum as Russian 76mm 1900/1902 field gun. G. -- Encyklopedia multimedialna w prezencie! http://www.e-mail.onet.pl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:52:47 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: another update Message-ID: <001b01c1f526$d57288a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Mark! > Stupid propellors > Why do they have to be so complicated. > I'll get to it Sorry to complicate your day! I love the rendering, though. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:01:34 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Was ist das? Message-ID: <003f01c1f528$0ef7c3a0$c17316d5@netcabo.pt> Oh great Master, Is that in the scale of the Light side? Or is it Vader scale? Beautiful it is, beautiful it is. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:31 AM Subject: [WWI] Was ist das? > Photo of my Fokker D.VII mini diorama at: > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/vdh.jpg > > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:58:59 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: another update Message-ID: <003301c1f527$b28d0300$c17316d5@netcabo.pt> Propeller or not, it's a stunning piece of work as always, Mark. Thanks for sharing Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Diego Fernetti To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: another update > Hi Mark! > > Stupid propellors > > Why do they have to be so complicated. > > I'll get to it > > Sorry to complicate your day! I love the rendering, though. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 20:43:02 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: another update - news from Czech. Message-ID: <3CD6CEB6.4060309@bg.am.lodz.pl> Mark C wrote: > > Splendid! Makes me ever more impatient for Eduard to make a 1/48 Camel. Hi, Last weekend on Beskyd Model Show we were talking with Eduard manager. Camel will be on December 2002 (read spring 2003) I went there with Tomasz and we met Lubosz. I got some interesting OT kits - Spin Caproni Ca.20, few HR model kits, Omega Mosca MB bis, Sikorsky S.XVI should be next month. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:58:43 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: knife basics Message-ID: <001501c1f530$0afef180$0aac72d4@FRITZweb> Of course I am using approbiate sizes: Modelling knife for 1/100 and below, up to machete style for 1/28.... H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harris, Mack" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: knife basics > Man, Hans, would I like to see you do this.:) Now I've got to go buy a > whole set of knives to go along with all the other tools I have and don't > use. This hobby gets more dangerous every day. > Mack > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Trauner [mailto:hans.trauner@nefkom.net] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:47 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the > basics > > > I am using a knife blade: Pointed type with straight cutting edge. I put > some CA on a metal surface and tip the knife in, just with the cutting side. > Then I move along the seam, like cutting with the complete edge. Capillary > actions does the rest. Makes perfect seams and CA lines. > > I never use 'Zapper' or such stuff. It's smelly and dissolves plastic ( the > sorts available here, do!) > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:01:02 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics Message-ID: <001f01c1f530$5db0fcc0$0aac72d4@FRITZweb> No, that's not what I met with using 'kicker'. It's like using nitro cellulose thinners or any other 'sharp' thinners. The 'kicker' alone produced a 'soft' residue on the plastic surface, as if it dissolved it. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Marshall" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics > > > I never use 'Zapper' or such stuff. It's smelly and dissolves > > plastic ( the sorts available here, do!) > > The amount of heat produced by CA is directly related to the rate of > the reaction. CA doesn't 'dry', it's a chemical process and that > process is exothermic. The kicker speeds that process, creating all > of the heat in a very short period of time. > > Cheers --- Larry > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:23:59 -0400 From: "Mark C" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics Message-ID: >From: "Hans Trauner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the >basics >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:59:48 -0400 (EDT) > >No, that's not what I met with using 'kicker'. It's like using nitro >cellulose thinners or any other 'sharp' thinners. The 'kicker' alone >produced a 'soft' residue on the plastic surface, as if it dissolved it. > >Hans That has been my experience wtih kickers too. I now apply it with a microbrush and let it flow down the joint, rather than using the spray bottle it comes in. I find it works better and there is much less risk of damage to precious plastic parts. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:26:14 -0400 From: "Mark C" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: another update - news from Czech. Message-ID: >From: Witold Kozakiewicz >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: another update - news from Czech. >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:45:14 -0400 (EDT) > >Mark C wrote: > > > > > Splendid! Makes me ever more impatient for Eduard to make a 1/48 Camel. > >Hi, >Last weekend on Beskyd Model Show we were talking with Eduard manager. >Camel will be on December 2002 (read spring 2003) THAT long?! *sob* Thank you for the info, Witold! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:50:31 -0400 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the b Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C9760201FEBC@TECOM03E> Mark & Hans, When using kicker, I have found that simply dipping a cotton q-tip in the stuff, and simply threatening the bonded parts with it is enough to set the bond without ever touching the kit. This comes in handy when affixing painted parts, prevents damage to finished surfaces. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Mark C [mailto:wwoner@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics >From: "Hans Trauner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the >basics >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:59:48 -0400 (EDT) > >No, that's not what I met with using 'kicker'. It's like using nitro >cellulose thinners or any other 'sharp' thinners. The 'kicker' alone >produced a 'soft' residue on the plastic surface, as if it dissolved it. > >Hans That has been my experience wtih kickers too. I now apply it with a microbrush and let it flow down the joint, rather than using the spray bottle it comes in. I find it works better and there is much less risk of damage to precious plastic parts. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 21:10:51 +0100 From: Dave Fleming To: Subject: RE: Back Message-ID: <1020715851.3cd6e34b1bcd5@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Diego Fernetti : > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Fleming > > Back from my week in Tenerife, forgot to unsub so have 600 messages > awaiting !! > > After a holiday week in the Mediterranean, some 600 funny emails at home > and > you still complain? > These scots are all crazy! > D. Who is complaining ? :-) Agree with the last statement though ! Still took the best part of a day to plough through the messages ! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 20:17:10 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the b Message-ID: Yes, exactly. I think I've mentioned before that nobody in their right mind would use the spray nozzle:)!!!! Good grief! The fumes are sufficient to harden the CA. Michael >From: Balzer Mr Gregory P (EDT) > >Mark & Hans, >When using kicker, I have found that simply dipping a cotton q-tip in the >stuff, and simply threatening the bonded parts with it is enough to set the >bond without ever touching the kit. This comes in handy when affixing >painted parts, prevents damage to finished surfaces. >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark C [mailto:wwoner@hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:26 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the basics > > > > >From: "Hans Trauner" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Re: applying CA wasRE: Joint life: was... back to the > >basics > >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:59:48 -0400 (EDT) > > > >No, that's not what I met with using 'kicker'. It's like using nitro > >cellulose thinners or any other 'sharp' thinners. The 'kicker' alone > >produced a 'soft' residue on the plastic surface, as if it dissolved it. > > > >Hans > >That has been my experience wtih kickers too. I now apply it with a >microbrush and let it flow down the joint, rather than using the spray >bottle it comes in. I find it works better and there is much less risk of >damage to precious plastic parts. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:38:59 -0500 From: Robert Horton* To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Artillery pictures again: Message-ID: <1020717539.3cd6e9e333cb8@www.secureserver.com> Howdy folks: Noted the response that the location of the picture posted by Mark was at Polish Military Museum at Warsaw. I would tend to think that all six were at that location...definately at least three are there and would seem that from the backgrounds, the others were too. I would defer on the description on the upper center gun being a 76mm instead of my possible thought of it being 62mm...the material I used for several of these is rather sketchy but the 210mm, the 76mm mortar and the British 13 pounder I feel are right on. I still wonder about the backgrounds...not wanting to be insulting or deregotary, but it still looks to me to be more like a storage area rather then a group of pieces on public display...does anyone know of the characteristics of this museum and it's history...I mention this in light of some U.S. museums that have displays that the public can access but are not the prime locations for the regular museum set pieces. Examples such as Silver Hills for the Smithsonian, and Vimy House that supports the Canadian War Museum at Ottawa, Canada come to mind among others. I personally appreciate very much someone taking the time to send these along so we can add these to the listings of what items pertaining to the great war are where...thanks...Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:27:17 -0300 From: "Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Convite - Palestra Softwares para Arquitetura e Engenharia (Integração AutoCAD - 3DS MAX - Corel Bryce) - Art&Design Message-ID: <20020506212728.AE15922984@master.art.com.br> Integração AutoCAD, 3D Studio MAX e Corel Bryce Todos nós sabemos que hoje o cliente valoriza muito o visual, nesta palestra estaremos demonstrando a todos, como tornar o seu produto mais atrativo, com um visual realmente agradável. Se você é um profissional que atual nas áreas de arquitetura, engenharia e comunicação visual, está palestra será de grande interesse para você. Ficar por dentro das novidades no mercado da computação gráfica e essencial para manter-se no mercado de trabalho. AutoCAD - Criando uma planta em 2D e elevando em 3D 3DS MAX - Importando uma planta do AutoCAD e aplicando efeitos de iluminação, texturas, câmeras, sombras, reflexos e etc. Corel Bryce - Importando uma planta do 3DS MAX e finalizando com a construção de um cenários com árvores, lagos, montanhas, céu e animação da cena. Palestrantes: Leandro Vasques Melo Robson Local: Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda. Data/Horário: 01/06/2002 - 15:00h as 17:30h Endereço: Av. Tiradentes, 534 - CJ 31 - Centro - Guarulhos - SP Como chegar? 1-) Rodovia Presidente Dutra Km 223 sentido São Paulo - Rio de Janeiro (Entrada Principal de Guarulhos) 2-) Av. Tiradentes entre o 3º e 4º semáforo, nº 534 - CJ 31 Taxa de Inscrição: 1Kg de alimento não perecível (Açucar, Feijão, Óleo, etc...). Os alimentos serão doados a instituições de caridade. Atenção - Apenas 20 vagas para o evento, após o envio do cadastro, será enviado um e-mail para confirmação de sua vaga. Pedimos a gentileza de comparecer 15 minutos antes do horário de início do evento para evitar atrasos na palestra. Inscrição - www.artdesign.com.br/palestras.asp Outros Setores: Downloads - Apostilas e Tutoriais Gratuítos - www.artdesign.com.br/downloads.asp Painel de Empregos - www.artdesign.com.br/empregos Fórum - www.artdesign.com.br/forum Chat - www.artdesign.com.br/chat Dicas - www.artdesign.com.br/dicas.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 23:56:56 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Artillery pictures again: Message-ID: <02cb01c1f548$f12579a0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Bob! > Howdy folks: Noted the response that the location of the picture posted by > Mark was at Polish Military Museum at Warsaw. I would tend to think that all > six were at that location... That photos definitely weren't taken in Warsaw museum. I only wanted to say, that gun LIKE this is exhibited in Warsaw. But your identification of that gun can be right, as we haven't measured caliber. It is possible that both 62 and 76 had similar chassis and armour shield. In Warsaw Army Museum are many interesting OT guns, Russian, Austrian, French and German. If someone is seriously interested, I can go there with my camera, and make good photos. Someday... ... someday I'll go there and make list of interesting OT things, but don't expect anything OT aviation related, except some 'flechettes' and other small things. Grzegorz -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:04:52 -0300 From: "Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Palestra - Integração Adobe Photoshop e Corel Bryce - Art&Design Message-ID: <20020506230507.4EDE72507D@master.art.com.br> Prezados(as) Amigos(as) A Art&Design está demonstrando como criar texturas no Adobe Photoshop (pisos, paredes, e etc.) a aplicar em cenários feitos no Corel Bryce, este fantástico software para criação de cenários em 3D. Demonstraremos também a integração total que o Corel Bryce possue com outros aplicativos do mercado como 3DS Max, Maya, Lightwave entre outros. Mais informações, visite www.artdesign.com.br/palestras.asp Apenas 20 vagas !!! Data da Palestra - 01/05/2002 Horário: 16:00h as 17:00h Atenciosamente: Leandro V. Melo Diretor ADM. Art&Design Treinamento em Informática S/C Ltda. Av. Tiradentes, 534 - CJ 31 - Centro - Guarulhos - SP Tel: (11) 6464-0558 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 01:03:46 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Virus warning! Message-ID: <000c01c1f552$4acc2220$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Hi! Following mail I've got from Steven Perry contained virus: "Virus W32.Magistr.39921@mm found and cleaned." - as said my Norton Antivirus program. "Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Perry" | Block Address | Add to Address Book Subject: Software has been prepared A schedule for calibration of the bench top turbidimeter using STABCAL Formazin Standards has been instituted to correct this deficiency as noted by Gary Kadonsky." -- Encyklopedia multimedialna w prezencie! http://www.e-mail.onet.pl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:15:18 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: <002301c1f553$e3230ba0$8a301c18@tampabay.rr.com> ! > Hi! > Following mail I've got from Steven Perry contained virus: > "Virus W32.Magistr.39921@mm found and cleaned." - as said my Norton > Antivirus program. > > "Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:12:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Steven Perry" | Block Address | Add to > Address Book > Subject: Software has been prepared > A schedule for calibration of the bench top turbidimeter using STABCAL > Formazin Standards has been instituted to correct this deficiency as > noted by Gary Kadonsky." Grzegorz : I started getting bounced e-mail I never sent after getting an e-mail from David Layton. I'm sure he didn't send it intentionally as it made no sense and had no address in the TO part of the header. I ran the virus scan and it cleared what you said I sent you. I haven't seen any bounced e-mails since. Odd thing is that the text was pulled out of a wordprocessor file that has to do with work. Never was in an e-mail. Sincerely sorry if anyone was inconvienienced before I caught it. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:25:21 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: <20020506232814.REHZ8715.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > I ran the virus scan and it cleared what you said I sent you. I > haven't seen any bounced e-mails since. Odd thing is that the text > was pulled out of a wordprocessor file that has to do with work. > Never was in an e-mail. Those who believe that the address at the top of the msg is the source of viruses need to beware that virus producers are changing tactics. While they used to hit a computer and use Outlook and Outlook Express to broadcast themselves everywhere using the host computer's email and sending itself to everyone listed in that person's addressbook, newer viruses make it pretty hard to figure out where it came from and who sent it. The Klez virus is the hot one right now and it hits a host computer, and uses Outlook and Outlook Express to send itself elsewhere BUT, rather than using the host address, it grabs an email address from the addressbook, a name from the addressbook, and it manufactures a >From field before sending out copies to others in the addressbook. Thus, you're likely to get viruses from "people" who aren't even infected with the virus. The solution to most viruses is to stop using Outlook and Outlook Express. It doesn't get too much more complicated than this. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:38:48 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: <3t4educ89astslrt5jar92on63klq3rkrs@4ax.com> On Mon, 6 May 2002 19:30:25 -0400 (EDT), Larry wrote: >The solution to most viruses is to stop using Outlook and Outlook Express. Yep - that's one of the reasons I love Forté Agent. I've got too much invested in PC hardware and software to switch to a Mac. Al ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:50:22 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: Some of us can't do that, since we need it to tie into work. If you set up your scanner to look at all incoming mail as it's being downloaded, there isn't a problem either. Viruses are removed before the email is opened. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Al Superczynski Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Virus warning! On Mon, 6 May 2002 19:30:25 -0400 (EDT), Larry wrote: >The solution to most viruses is to stop using Outlook and Outlook Express. Yep - that's one of the reasons I love Forté Agent. I've got too much invested in PC hardware and software to switch to a Mac. Al ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 01:59:29 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: <000f01c1f55a$0f3e7de0$0200a8c0@grzesiek> Steven! No problem, as it caused no troubles. I've also got similar virius from David Layton, earlier than from you. Luckily, both infected mails came to my old Yahoo address, which I still check sometimes (it works, but can be no longer accessed with Outlook). I access that account through Yahoo www page, so virus had no chance. I have also Norton Antivirus working. G. (Thinking about switching to Netscape.) -- Encyklopedia multimedialna w prezencie! http://www.e-mail.onet.pl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:08:23 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Virus warning! Message-ID: <102073010901@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Check the address, it is doing that old trick of approximating a known address .. I got one from Eavid Layton, not David Layton . .. as always, check for attachments before opening .. I have had at least 6-10 of that Klez (or whatever) virus stopped by my ISP per day for the last few weeks. Bob ---------- >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > Steven! > No problem, as it caused no troubles. I've also got similar virius from > David Layton, earlier than from you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:12:05 -0500 From: "charles robinson" To: Subject: Eduard Dr1 Message-ID: <000701c1f564$34798b40$94c10ad0@tomei> Hi Gang, Some questions - Getting ready to work on an Eduard Dr.1 and IIRC there was some talk about struts and u/c parts being to long? Any info? Also, where is a good place to order Part p/e sets from? TIA Ohio Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:18:33 -0500 From: "David's Mail" To: Subject: My apologizes for the Virus. Message-ID: <00c801c1f565$1b794940$9063d918@Jeanne> Please accept my apologizes, it appears I got hit with a virus in my e-mail. In fact, it got through my Norton Anti-virus software. I think this thing has a means of turning off the software, because on Sunday nite, I found it turned off and it would not turn back on. I have it on now and have scanned for this thing. It appears to be gone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:32:25 +0800 From: caesar@vip.163.com To: ×𾴵Ŀͻ§ <> Subject: ÓÊÏäÈÝÁ¿¾¯¸æ Message-ID: <20020507014110.704E21C567DE2@mx.vip.163.com> ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4383 **********************