WWI Digest 4360 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 2) Re: List Get Together by "Rick Milas" 3) Re: Another one on the DH2... by Morg17ms@aol.com 4) Fokker E & D series by Tom Plesha 5) Re: Spad wing slot by "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." 6) Re: Site Link to Koster/again by "Lee M." 7) NGRU: Set to Dominate Another Emerging Market G by "The Investment Journal" 8) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." 9) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." 10) Re: Site Link to Koster/again by Larry Marshall 11) Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again by Tom Plesha 12) Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again by Larry Marshall 13) Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 14) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 15) Re: List Get Together by Peter Fedders 16) Re: buying kits - was Link to Koster/again/again by Larry Marshall 17) Re: buying kits - was Link to Koster/again/again by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 18) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by "Michael Kendix" 19) RE: Renwal Wright Flyer by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: buying kits by Tom Plesha 21) Re: buying kits by "Thomas Solinski" 22) Re: List Get Together by "David's Mail" 23) RE: Spad wing slot by "Diego Fernetti" 24) Re: buying kits by Karen Rychlewski 25) Americals arrived today! by "David Calhoun" 26) Re: Air Combat for Pancho Villa, was: Renwal Wright Flyer by Shane Weier 27) always jadeite by hello 28) tally ho! by "Diego Fernetti" 29) Re: buying kits by Larry Marshall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:04:21 +0100 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <1019768661.3cc86f55850f5@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Michael Kendix : > Dave: > > By "Liquid glue" do you mean the stuff in the black rhomboid-shaped > plastic > container with a needle applicator? Or testors orange tube glue? > > Michael > Sorry, I should have been more clear - liquid solvent, such as the classic Britfix (now Humbrol) Liquid Poly, applied by brush. Trichloroethane, ethyl ester (?), MEK or some other such organic chemical Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:13:37 -0500 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List Get Together Message-ID: I'm not aware of the St.Louis show. Where can I find info about it. I don't live that far from there and may be able to go. Rick Milas >From: GRBroman@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] List Get Together >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:31:21 -0400 (EDT) > >Hey folks, shall we try to set up a get together at the St. Louis show next >weekend? Who is going? >Glen _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:29:32 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another one on the DH2... Message-ID: <32.25fe065e.29f9cf3c@aol.com> --part1_32.25fe065e.29f9cf3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Correct - the trigger was a button on the top! Tom Morgan --part1_32.25fe065e.29f9cf3c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Correct - the trigger was a button on the top!

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--part1_32.25fe065e.29f9cf3c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi Subject: Fokker E & D series Message-ID: <20020425213414.35828.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All- My new build project is Kissenberth's Fokker D.II. .. Anyone know of a source of photos-drawings-etc. of: rudder mounting (It looks like it mounts to the tailskid brace but not anything on an upper mount), strut mounting (they look like they go into sockets), landing gear mounting (they look like they bolt to the frame)-etc.? .. I have the DF's, but they do not have good/clear photos of these areas in detail. I'm assuming the E and D models would be very similar. TIA Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:35:31 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad wing slot Message-ID: <3CC876A2.F17D56AC@verizon.net> Diego, Those slots go all the way through the wing. Alvie Diego Fernetti wrote: > Neil! (and other spadofiles) > Before attaching the lower wing to the fuselage I was about to drill some > shallow holes for the struts when i noticed that I must do some small slots > on the lower wings of the Spad XIII to house the aileron cranks (see > http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Fre/SPAD13/pss13_12.jpg) > Was this slot all the way through the wing or just on the upper surface? > D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:38:00 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site Link to Koster/again Message-ID: <3CC87738.A3209FB8@x25.net> Great Model does, absolutely, have the Koster Aero Enterprises models available..They run from about $21.95 to $59.75 or there abouts. Look under Aircraft Models. Lee M. Graham Hunter wrote: > > Thanks Tom that would be great. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:01:10 -1700 From: "The Investment Journal" To: Subject: NGRU: Set to Dominate Another Emerging Market G Message-ID: <000000d90a8a$00006d64$00001c56@xmxpita.excite.com>

------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:53:18 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <3CC87ACB.3EB38F80@verizon.net> Michael, The way the kit was designed using Testor's liquid plastic cement (in the bottle) you brushed the glue over the the entire surface (upper or lower, one surface at a time) of the black plastic wing frame, then you placed the paper over the stick frame and smoothed it out before the whole thing dried into a clotted mass. When everything dried, you carefully trimmed away the excess paper using a razor blade or sharp X-Acto knife (hopefully with minimum bloodshed. It worked (kind of). I remember doing this kit when I was in high school before man set foot on the moon. The biggest problem was that you couldn't paint the wing frame brown like it should have been and the melted plastic would bleed through the paper in spots adding to the mess. Still the kit as I remember was reasonably accurate and fun to build. I built them all, my Mom destroyed them all over a period of time by insisting on dusting them daily with a feather duster. Alvie Michael Kendix wrote: > What concerns me about this kit is how are you supposed to apply the blasted > paper covering to the wings? Would the kit's paper still be OK or would I > have to go out and get some new paper? Do they give you a sort of template > to cut your own? > > Michael > >From: "Diego Fernetti" > >Michael > >Other have answered about the kit... > >I consider it On Topic, sine we usually "stretch" topicness to cover early > >aviation as well as experimental machines. Besides. if you build a Wright > >Flyer in 1/72 no one here will argue to see your pictures of it! :-) > >There's a book of WW1 plans from Wylam and others by Air Age Publishing > >that > >has a drawing of the military Wright. > >D. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Michael Kendix > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:55 PM > >Subject: [WWI] Renwal Wright Flyer > > > > > > > Please tell me something about this kit. > > > > > > What scale? Does it use that paper stuff to cover the wings? Is it > >made > >of > > > plastic? Overall description? > > > > > > Is this off topic? > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:56:25 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado NSWCCD. Sharon J. Alvarado RSAITO." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <3CC87B88.8CE9E7CE@verizon.net> The clear watery stuff in the bottle with a brush built into the cap. Alvie Michael Kendix wrote: > Dave: > > By "Liquid glue" do you mean the stuff in the black rhomboid-shaped plastic > container with a needle applicator? Or testors orange tube glue? > > Michael > > >From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] RE: Renwal Wright Flyer > >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:29:12 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Quoting Michael Kendix : > > > > > What concerns me about this kit is how are you supposed to apply the > > > blasted > > > paper covering to the wings? > > > >Liquid glue IIRC - the paper was impregnated with something or other > > > >Dave F > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:04:00 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org, "Lee M." Subject: Re: Site Link to Koster/again Message-ID: <20020425220527.NXLL10601.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> On Thursday 25 April 2002 05:40 pm, Lee M. wrote: > Great Model does, absolutely, have the Koster Aero Enterprises > models available..They run from about $21.95 to $59.75 or there > abouts. Does Great Models ever ship anything you order? I've ordered at least a dozen items from them over the past 3 1/2 weeks and they've yet to mark anything as shipped. I've never dealt with any company that is as bad as this one when it comes to delivering things they say they have in stock. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again Message-ID: <20020425222039.30058.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> I ordered engines from him (Koster)and had no problem? Fine product, fine service. .. I do not order anything from Great Models anymore. At one time they were quite good. I cancelled a large order after waiting a long long long time and no order! .. Good luck with your order Larry. .. Later Tom --- Larry Marshall wrote: > On Thursday 25 April 2002 05:40 pm, Lee M. wrote: > > Great Model does, absolutely, have the Koster Aero > Enterprises > > models available..They run from about $21.95 to > $59.75 or there > > abouts. > > Does Great Models ever ship anything you order? > I've ordered at > least a dozen items from them over the past 3 1/2 > weeks and they've > yet to mark anything as shipped. I've never dealt > with any company > that is as bad as this one when it comes to > delivering things they > say they have in stock. > > Cheers --- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:46:56 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Tom Plesha Subject: Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again Message-ID: <20020425224822.OJXW11576.tomts23-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > I do not order anything from Great Models anymore. At > one time they were quite good. I cancelled a large At least I'm not the only one :-) > Good luck with your order Larry. I believe I'll be canceling my order tommorrow if I can get a person on the phone. I'm normally a pretty patient person but they require something quite beyond patience from their customers. Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:05:49 -0400 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Site Link to Koster/again/again Message-ID: <70DA8B92.0A48764B.138E644A@aol.com> Like Tom, I don't do Great Models anymore. High expectations....little or no results. AFAIK Koster doesn't have a website nor email address. However, following is the address from the paperwork in the Koster Hannover Cl.IIIa kit: Koster Aero Enterprises, 25 Glenridge Dr., Bedford, MA 01730. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Thu, 25 Apr 2002  6:23:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tom Plesha writes: >I ordered engines from him  (Koster)and had no >problem?  Fine product, fine service. >. >I do not order anything from Great Models anymore.  At >one time they were quite good. I cancelled a large >order after waiting a long long long time and no >order! >. >Good luck with your order Larry. >. >Later >Tom >--- Larry Marshall wrote: >> On Thursday 25 April 2002 05:40 pm, Lee M. wrote: >> > Great Model does, absolutely, have the Koster Aero >> Enterprises >> > models available..They run from about $21.95 to >> $59.75 or there >> > abouts. >> >> Does Great Models ever ship anything you order? >> I've ordered at >> least a dozen items from them over the past 3 1/2 >> weeks and they've >> yet to mark anything as shipped.  I've never dealt >> with any company >> that is as bad as this one when it comes to >> delivering things they >> say they have in stock. >> >> Cheers --- Larry > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more >http://games.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:08:06 -0500 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <000201c1ecae$0ef534a0$d4a21c41@neb.rr.com> -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of A few years ago, I built one of the 1/72 SPADs. I used Tenax 7 without any problems. If you want to try a different paper, I would suggest rice paper, which can be found in the calligraphy sections of many arts and craft supply stores. If I build mine (or my Bleriot or Curtiss pusher), I had thought about applying the paper, getting it "sealed", and then using a "CDL" water color. Just enough to give it some color, but still retaining the translucency of the paper. Paul xtv16@dial.pipex.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Quoting Michael Kendix : > Dave: > > By "Liquid glue" do you mean the stuff in the black rhomboid-shaped > plastic > container with a needle applicator? Or testors orange tube glue? > > Michael > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:35:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List Get Together Message-ID: I certaily intend to go. Of course I belong to the club giving the show and am supposed to be a judge. peter On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Hey folks, shall we try to set up a get together at the St. Louis show next weekend? Who is going? > Glen > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:15:06 -0400 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org, CoolSpadLuke@aol.com Subject: Re: buying kits - was Link to Koster/again/again Message-ID: <20020426011634.QVWE751.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > Like Tom, I don't do Great Models anymore. High > expectations....little or no results. AFAIK Koster doesn't have a > website nor email address. However, following is the address from > the paperwork in the Koster Hannover Cl.IIIa kit: Koster Aero > Enterprises, 25 Glenridge Dr., Bedford, MA 01730. I apologize for overlapping threads with my query about GM. I realize now that I should have started a new thread. Where do you guys buy your kits? I live in a small town I guess. It's only the capital of the second most populated province in Canada and only has 700,000 people living in it. But the single, poor excuse for a hobby shop (more of a toy store than anything), has but 2 WWI kits in stock and neither is 1/72 scale. Thus, I'm pretty much limited to Internet shopping. Great Models promises great selection and super prices but they seem more a place that's singing "Yes, we have no bananas" to me. How long does it take to get stuff from Jada that you guys sometimes mention? What about Squadron? Does Rosemont generally have what they list on their site? Being in Canada it's a cross-border phone call and I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time waiting on the phone while they went checking their stock. Where should I shop? Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:45:50 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: buying kits - was Link to Koster/again/again Message-ID: <000901c1ecc4$1a597520$236e160a@CSP00> Larry, > Where do you guys buy your kits? I live in a small town I guess. > It's only the capital of the second most populated province in Canada > and only has 700,000 people living in it. But the single, poor > excuse for a hobby shop (more of a toy store than anything), has but > 2 WWI kits in stock and neither is 1/72 scale. If anything, I got a bigger problem. The only Hobby shop on Penang island (besdide a chain selling Tamiya stuff for incredibly high prices) does not restock anything beside the occasional Italeri shipment. WW I models? What WW I models > > Thus, I'm pretty much limited to Internet shopping. Where should I shop? > Most of my Internet shopping I do with Earl at NKR. *Incredibly* good prices (most of the Roden WW I stuff is roughly half of what the typical US internet shop charges) and service - he updates his list *daily*, clearly showing what he has in stock. As a second option, I use the Modellbaustudio Rhein-Ruhr, which has in my eyes *the best* selection of WW I models I can imagine (includining basically all Czechmaster resins and Luedemanns, but also all the other small Czech resin suppliers etc.) However, Detlef Schorschs reaction time are *extremely* slow - I basically use this option only during my rather frequent business travels to Germany. Finally, I still think Hannants is worth consideration - while their prices are on the high side, their speed is good, and they got a extremely complete selection as well. I also used Aeroclub a lot in former years and was very satisfied with their performance, but have not ordered anything for 2 or 3 years. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 01:55:23 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded to my questions about the Renwal Wright Flyer kit. I saw the kit in th box tonight and don't think I could do it justice in 4 weeks to build it: quite frankly, 4 months would be more realstic! That paper just put me off - the black plastic would show through and you cannot pre-paint the black plastic because the glue would take it off. My club, IPMS DC, is going to do a little display on Family Day at the NASM and we're trying to get a selection of planes from different eras. I'll be supplying the WW1 stuff but I have nothing earlier than a DFW "Mars" biplane - we were trying to get a Wright Flyer. Hmmm... maybe I should build that Airfix Lunar Module kit. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:59:34 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <179.7555e48.29fa0e86@aol.com> In a message dated 4/25/02 6:56:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << My club, IPMS DC, is going to do a little display on Family Day at the NASM and we're trying to get a selection of planes from different eras. I'll be supplying the WW1 stuff but I have nothing earlier than a DFW "Mars" biplane - we were trying to get a Wright Flyer. >> Dig up a Monogram 1/40 Wright Flyer- complete with launching rail and everything else seen in the famous photo. Kinda crude but not that difficult to knock into shape! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: buying kits Message-ID: <20020426021737.65733.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Larry- Most of my kit purchases are thru the net or mail. I have successfully done business with directly: not in any particular order: .. CSM, Koster, A-G Decals, Squadron, Roll Models, Sierra, etc. and a number of others that are mentioned on the list. They almost all have sites to access and order from on-line catelogue. .. I'm sure others can easily add to the few I've mentioned. .. HTH Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:22:48 -0500 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: buying kits Message-ID: <000801c1ecc9$425c2040$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Let me chime in with a new experience. I just tried Pacific coast hobbies JUST FANTASTIC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:10:56 -0500 From: "David's Mail" To: Subject: Re: List Get Together Message-ID: <002901c1eccf$fb830e20$0100a8c0@Jeanne> I'm judging too. If any contestants need my address or would like to make a direct deposit....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fedders" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: List Get Together > I certaily intend to go. Of course I belong to the club giving the show > and am supposed to be a judge. > > peter > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey folks, shall we try to set up a get together at the St. Louis show next weekend? Who is going? > > Glen > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:45:07 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Spad wing slot Message-ID: <033e01c1ec70$2ce9d9e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > Could you reiterate exactly how you did this, please? TIA! Let's see if I can describe Lance´s method and still make sense... I sanded the fuselage smooth, following the curve of the turtledeck and eliminating the "stepped" details of the parts (btw, I had to fill the inside of the fuselage with some gel CA glue to avoid filling too much on the corners of the fuselage) The sides of the kit are virtually flat and I wanted them with those parelell stringers along the sides too. Then I took a hundred meters of thin stretched sprue. I used red to get a contrast color for later sanding. The sprue was applied the fuselage leghtwise along the turtledeck and sides following the stringer layout. Once dry I put a first enamel coat to check again for surface blemishes. While that was drying, I took the tube of Tmiya putty and diluted a little of it in acetone, forming liquid putty. I applied it several times over the surface with an old brush, avoiding laying lumps or other impure particles between the stringers. I layed a thickish coat between the two stringers at the sides, getting a raised surface. It's important to put thin coats, let them dry (some seconds working with acetone) and then repeat with other thin layer. If properly thinned, the new coat of putty doesn't distort the preceding one but it melts into it. Once satisfied I left it to dry, say a couple of hours, and entertained myself painting a figure. At last, I sanded all the fuselage surfaces, until I started seeing the red of the sprues again. Result: a nice faceted surface! I'll try the same on the nieuport 28... hope it works again! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:59:32 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: buying kits Message-ID: <3CC8D0A3.349DC39A@earthlink.net> Hi Larry I've had the same experiences with Great Models and no longer order from them; however, often they have pictures of kit boxes sooner than other sites. Roll Models can be slow, and in my experience, it's almost impossible to know what's actually in stock--I order, then wait to see what I get. Doesn't seem to be any way of finding out what they'll ship. I've had good service from Squadron mail-order and Aeroclub (by email). Jadar, in Warsaw, Poland, is also very quick and dependable; once they have your credit-card number an email with desired items produces confirmation of what's in stock and when it will be sent. Hobbyshop.cz (formerly VAMP) in Czech Republic has mouth-watering prices and good service, but awkward payment options (I sent one check which never arrived at its destination). For more 'main-stream' kits and stuff, you can't beat Rosemont Hobby in Pennsylvania, US: Barry is perfectly honest and will keep your cc on file for email orders, and he'll let you know if something is out of stock. All the relevant URLs can be found at the wwi-models site. Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:12:31 -0400 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Americals arrived today! Message-ID: <001501c1ecd8$9646d4c0$8ddb0944@ri.cox.net> Hi everyone, Just got my order from Americal/Gryphon today, had to get several sheets of lozenge, but my best suprise was the latest Jasta 4 sheet - #171 in 1/48 scale. this sheet (sheets) contains markings for 2 Fok. E.IV, 4 Halberstadt D types, 6 Fok. Dr.1's, 17 Fok. D.VII, a DFW C type and a captured Sopwith Camel. The bag contained 2 full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets, and 5 smaller sheets! This includes 4 different options for the upper wing of Udet's Du doch nicht!!! and the black stripes for his optical illusion triplane originally flown by Kissenberth. Lots of Udet Fokkers, and tons of prop logos & serial #'s to do any Fokker Dr.1 or D.VII (including OAW) and half a sheet of white markings with white OAW serial #'s as well. Plus a 32 page book that details the aircraft and a brief history of Jasta 4, and the price for the entire collection was only $12.50! I highly recommend this set for anyone interested in Udet, Jasta 4, Fokkers (early & late war) or any other German WW1 stuff, as this sheet is sure to have it! Only wish the DML Fokker was more available. But I received the Jager Fokker this week, and it says that Du doch nicht!!! was an early OAW aircraft, so I may be doing it in that scheme. And as a note, Glen Merrill's ideas about the colors of Udet's first D.VII are definitely not the same as Dan San Abbott's! Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:38:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: Air Combat for Pancho Villa, was: Renwal Wright Flyer Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDEA3@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker quotes: > Lamb said he fired the gun >from inside his shirt in order to prevent ejected cartridges hitting the >(pusher) prop - I guess he needed a new shirt after that. Do revolvers eject cartridges? *All* my handgun experience is with automatics (which do eject cartridges) and revolvers which *definitely do not* eject the cartridges until you actively do it yourself. It seems to me that with that sort of revolver you'd go ... bang bang bang bang bang bang click bugger..... ....*Then* put the pistol up against your middle to remove the spent cartridges .....not shoot holes through your own shirt. 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