WWI Digest 4355 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eric's Camel guts.. by Eric GALLAUD 2) Ǣ̸ by ÕÅÕä 3) Re: Eric's Camel guts.. by "Diego Fernetti" 4) RE: ANZAC DAY tomorrow Aussie time.. by "Diego Fernetti" 5) Re: Eric's Camel guts.. by Crawford Neil 6) Re: Eric's Camel guts.. by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: ASSISTANCE by "Diego Fernetti" 8) RE: 'Propellerblatt' is online now by "Diego Fernetti" 9) Re: A good book to buy? by Crawford Neil 10) What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? by "Ross Moorhouse" 11) Another one on the DH2... by "Ross Moorhouse" 12) Americal nieuports by "Diego Fernetti" 13) RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? by Crawford Neil 14) RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? by "Ross Moorhouse" 15) RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? by Peter Mullin 17) Re: Another one on the DH2... by Peter Mullin 18) Re: Another one on the DH2... by Crawford Neil 19) by 32 20) Re: ASSISTANCE by Dennis Ugulano 21) =?big5?Q?=AF=B8=AA=F8=A6=DB=BDsAV=A6X=BF=E8=B2=C4=A4C=BF=E8?= by xyz411@cm1.hinet.net 22) Re: ASSISTANCE by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: Americal nieuports by bill anthony 24) Re: Another one on the DH2... by "ot811" 25) Re: ASSISTANCE by "ot811" 26) Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? by bill anthony 27) RE: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? by Crawford Neil 28) Re: ASSISTANCE by "Lance Krieg" 29) Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 30) Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? by "Lance Krieg" 32) Re: 'Propellerblatt' is online now by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:17:10 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eric's Camel guts.. Message-ID: <3CC631C6.F5070645@club-internet.fr> Unfortunately not ;-) Eric Fraser a écrit : > More wow, > The woodwork is truly phenominal...Uh... those control cables aren't going > to be operational, are they?? > F ------------------------------ Date: Wed,24 Apr 2002 14:43:22 +0800 From: ÕÅÕä To: "" Subject: Ǣ̸ Message-ID: <20020424063657.9C8161DAF8D9C@smtp.263.net> ×ð¾´µÄÁìµ¼£º ÄúºÃ!ллÄúÔÚ°ÙæÖÐÔĶÁÎÒÃǵÄÐżþ¡£ ÎÒÃÇÊǺÓÄÏ°²Ñô¶Íѹ»úе¹¤Òµ¹É·ÝÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾(Ô­°²Ñô¶ÍѹÉ豸³§)£¬ÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÊÇ»úе²¿Éú²ú¶ÍѹÉ豸¶¨µãÆóÒµ,Ê¡¿Æ¼¼ÐÍÆóÒµ¡£ ÏÖÌØÏòÄãÍƼöÎÒ¹«Ë¾Éú²úµÄ´´¹úÓŲúÆ·--ϵÁпÕÆø´¸Åä¼þ£¬ÐͺŰüÀ¨40KG¡¢75KG¡¢150KG¡¢250KG¡¢560KG¡¢750KG£¬Áã¼þÃû³ÆΪ£º´¸¸Ë¡¢´¸¸ËÕÇȦ¡¢ÉÏÕè¿é¡¢ÏÂÕè¿é¡¢Õèµæ¡¢ÉÏбÌú¡¢ÏÂбÌú¡¢ÕèµæбÌú¡¢Õè×ù¡¢´¸¸Ëµ¼³Ì¡¢´¸¸Ë×è©Ȧ¡¢µ¼°å¡¢»îÈû¡¢»îÈû¸Ç¡¢»îÈûÕÇȦ¡¢Í­Ìס¢Á¬¸Ë¡¢»îÈûÏú¡¢»îÈû×è©Ȧ¡¢»îÈûµ¼³Ì¡¢ÇúÖá¡¢Á¬ÐùÍ·¡¢Á¬¶¯ÖᡢƤ´øÂÖ¡¢´óƤÂÖ¡¢´ó³ÝÂÖ¡¢ÉÏÆøÃÅо¡¢ÏÂÆøÃÅо¡¢·²¶û¡¢·²¶û×ù¡¢Ö¹»Ø·§Ìס¢ÖÐÆø·§¡¢×ÔÎüÓͱᢷ§Ì׵ȡ£ ¡¡ÎÒ¹«Ë¾µØ´¦ÖйúÆß´ó¹Å¶¼Ö®Ò»µÄÀúÊ·ÎÄ»¯Ãû³Ç°²Ñô£¬È˽ܵØÁ飬½»Í¨±ãÀû¡£ÎÒÃdzçÉÐÊÂÒµÉϵÄ־ʿ£¬Ï²½»¸÷·½ÅóÓÑ£¬Ô¸ÓëÄúºÏ×÷£¬¹²´´Î´À´¡£ ÆÚ´ý×ÅÄúµÄ»Ø¸´£¬½÷×£¹ó¹«Ë¾ÉúÒâÐË¡¡¢ÕôÕôÈÕÉÏ! ´ËÖ ¾´Àñ ÕÅÕä ÍøÖ·: http://www.ayduanya.com EMAIL£º ayzhangzhen@163.com µç»°£º 0372-5923102 ´«Õæ: 0372-5922446 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:59:32 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Eric's Camel guts.. Message-ID: <004101c1eb76$bb8e0680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well, yesterday I had a lot of meetings, and therefore my mind wandered in that general direction all day, that is, how to get operational controls in miniature. Making them in 1/28 should be something very hard to do but definitely in the real of the possible, even following the layout of the real machine. Of course, it must be needed that someone with a miniature lather would make small working pulleys and the control wires should be made with lycra threads more than monofilament, since it is more elastic. Maybe hinges can be done with small diameter brass tubing or hypodermic needles. But going to the limit of possibilities would be doing operating controls in 1/72. I guess that in this respect are ruled out those airplanes with cable-controlled ailerons, but those like nieuports, Ansaldo Balilla and Roland D.II that had aileron cranks instead of cables should be doable with precision equipment. The things I still have to solve on my mind are how to do the joints of the control column and the vertical tubes running to the cranks in the wings. The cranks must be done in thick-gauge photoetched brass and the tube transmitting the movement to the ailerons could be done with very fine steel wire (guitar string?) inserted in a routed groove along the wing. The aileron hinges could be "mimicked" with two small drops of contact cement wich dries elastic and wil attach the aileron to the wing as well. Now the rudder and elevator controls must be done in some other way, but the mechanism is more plain than the ailerons. Never mind... this is just the rambling of my idle brain... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric GALLAUD To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:21 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Eric's Camel guts.. > Unfortunately not ;-) > > Eric > > Fraser a écrit : > > > More wow, > > The woodwork is truly phenominal...Uh... those control cables aren't going > > to be operational, are they?? > > F > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:25:17 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: ANZAC DAY tomorrow Aussie time.. Message-ID: <006201c1eb7a$5493e2c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> A big hug from here to the antipodeal friends D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:38 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Eric's Camel guts.. Message-ID: > Now the rudder and elevator controls must be done in some > other way, but the > mechanism is more plain than the ailerons. > Never mind... this is just the rambling of my idle brain... > D. > I did elevators on a 1/48 Spitfire, it was quite easy, Just cut them off, drill a hole through the tail, connect the two elevators with a rod, on the rod is a lever, this is connected to the lengthened control stick with two crossed pieces of thread. The control stick is mounted in a pivot. It still works after 20 years, though rather sloppy. Rudder would probably be possible, in similar fashion. But I can't see how to do the ailerons, and I think any of it would be difficult in 1/72. A WW1 plane might be easier, because everything is exposed, I suppose you could use nylon wire and glue with CA, but how to do neat pulleys? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:36:48 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Eric's Camel guts.. Message-ID: <008301c1eb7b$f008d520$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > I did elevators on a 1/48 Spitfire, it was quite easy, Just cut > them off, drill a hole through the tail, connect the two elevators > with a rod, on the rod is a lever, this is connected to the lengthened > control stick with two crossed pieces of thread. The control stick is > mounted in a pivot. It still works after 20 years, though rather sloppy. > Rudder would probably be possible, in similar fashion. That's a good idea and might work on a Nieuport where all the wires for the tail surfaces are partly exposed. > But I can't see > how to do the ailerons, and I think any of it would be difficult in 1/72. > A WW1 plane might be easier, because everything is exposed, I suppose > you could use nylon wire and glue with CA, but how to do neat pulleys? I guess that nylon wire is too stiff and it won't bend appropiately, I'd use lycra thread (even that has misadvantages because here my workmate Silvia tells me that lycra is also elastic to traction) In any case, complex pulley mechanisms must be difficult, I'd say that only tubes and cranks would work in the smaller scales (examples are nieuports, Rolands without cabane assemblies and Ansaldos) About tiny pulleys (probably appropiate for 1/28 mechanisms) can be done with miniature lathes like the Unimat or maybe asking to a clockmaker. D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:48:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: ASSISTANCE Message-ID: <00a401c1eb7d$825173a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yes, but it's funny to see what new stories they invent to disguise the same clumsy scam. My favorite is that on wich the dead father was one of the most known and popular farmers of the country... and was slaughtered by their neighbors! Much better than anything I can write indeed. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: ot811 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: ASSISTANCE > this is looking more and more like a chain letter than a scam. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:59:48 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: 'Propellerblatt' is online now Message-ID: <00cd01c1eb7f$26bd5200$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Nice site. I hope there's even more images to download here soon as well, very interesting profiles! this guy http://www.propellerblatt.de/HAWACIIIa.jpg had some troubles with their drinking right? I swear I never saw anything like this but in a bottle of tequila... ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: [WWI] 'Propellerblatt' is online now > Hi listees, > we do have our own 'C&C' mag / 'OtF' mag here in Germany now. It's called > Propellerblatt and is made by a handful of (mainly) bavarian enthusiasts. > Our basic homepage is ready now and can be seen under > www.propellerblatt.de German text, only, I regret. In the download area > there are some drawing available, made by yours truly. > > Yours > Hans > > P.S. Just saw Corman's Red Baron on TV a few minutes ago. Curious. Very > curious. No dowels, just a blonde maid with a 1970 haitcut sprawling on the > fuselage of a silver triplane. Very, very curious. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:14:57 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: A good book to buy? Message-ID: I had a look in the FMP book, and I see what you mean, the line-up of SpaBi-255 (the first in line is no.72) aren't Spad 16's, they are 11's, the lower exhaust pipe is a give-away. As far as I can see that's the only one. Well done seeing that, I never gave it a thought. I've made a note in the book. Thanks /Neil C. PS. The plane called Chonchon isn't a Spad 11 either;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Pearson [mailto:bpearson@kaien.net] > Sent: den 22 april 2002 19:24 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: A good book to buy? > > > On the whole the book is a great single source for French > aircraft, but as > in any compendium, there are mistakes and anything quoted > should not be > taken as gospel. I use this book first, and then go to other > references to > corroborate it. As we're talking about SPADs, some of the > SPAD 16s in the > photos are actually SPAD 11s. The units that they belong to are also > occasionally misattributed. > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:56:34 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? Message-ID: <001c01c1eb87$150d73c0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Doing some model building tonight. A rariety for me. Working on my Revell DH2. I need to know if the inside of the nose of the plane was painted in the same grey as the outside of the nose? Or would it have stayed bare metal? Or some form of undercoat. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:31:57 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Another one on the DH2... Message-ID: <002601c1eb8c$060dc8c0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I have both "de Havilland DH2 in action" and the DataFile but neither of them have a pic of the control column. Did it have a spade gripe? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:31:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Americal nieuports Message-ID: <01f401c1eb8b$f93276a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I'm sorry, but I gforgot who asked about Americal decals of Nieuport 11s Please contact me offlist! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:32:12 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? Message-ID: Seeing as nobody knows for sure what colour the outside of the nacelle was, I don't think you need to worry about it. Do whatever you think will look best. FWIW. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:39:35 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? Message-ID: <002c01c1eb8d$17620360$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Yellow with nice blue dots.. Sorry I couldnt help myself there. I was thinking of doing it in the smae grey as the outsite. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? > Seeing as nobody knows for sure what colour the outside of the nacelle > was, I don't think you need to worry about it. Do whatever you think will > look best. FWIW. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:40:41 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? Message-ID: <021e01c1eb8d$3ec812a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I agree. I'd go with a matt medium gray, that can portray unpainted dull aluminium and also painted gray metal. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? > Seeing as nobody knows for sure what colour the outside of the nacelle > was, I don't think you need to worry about it. Do whatever you think will > look best. FWIW. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:14:34 -0500 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: What colour would the inside of the nose of the DH2?? Message-ID: <3CC6E7FA.742B7CF2@biocomp.unl.edu> Ross, I just went with a matte gray for the metal parts on mine... -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:16:41 -0500 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another one on the DH2... Message-ID: <3CC6E879.F3D8727F@biocomp.unl.edu> Ross, Whoops, didn't see your other message: I'm not sure about the control column, but I'm guessing it was just a simple grip (not a "spade handle" like the Sopwiths), but I really don't know... -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:21:10 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Another one on the DH2... Message-ID: > Ross, > > Whoops, didn't see your other message: I'm not sure about > the control > column, but I'm guessing it was just a simple grip (not a > "spade handle" > like the Sopwiths), but I really don't know... > -- > > Peter Mullin Me neither, I'm going to take a squint in mine tonight, I suspect I will find a stick there. What is Sanjeev using in his Fee? 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In fact, I've had some troubles with my bank losing some of MY money in the course of the transaction. I'm not sure these guys are completely honest... it seems like a real coincidence that all these fathers are dying. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Americal nieuports Message-ID: <20020424135124.36463.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> Diego, Hello, it was me William Anthony who asked about the decals. Bill Anthony --- Diego Fernetti wrote: > I'm sorry, but I gforgot who asked about Americal > decals of Nieuport 11s > Please contact me offlist! > D. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:53:46 -0400 From: "ot811" To: "wwi-list" Subject: Re: Another one on the DH2... Message-ID: <014301c1eb97$777c7a00$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Ross, The BlaueMax DH-2 kit contains, and depicts, a simple stick grip. The Datafile pg 8 (If I remember) shows what might be the control-column. If it is, it is a simple grip. Tonight, I will look through my growing collection of books for any more photos. As for the Fee, it has a spade-ish grip, confirmed by photo(s). regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:57:02 -0400 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: ASSISTANCE Message-ID: <015001c1eb97$ecbf8cd0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Lance muses: >>>>> I'm not sure these guys are completely honest... ----- hmmm, not likely. They have been in business for quite long. Must be accounting errors at your bank. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) From: bill anthony To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? Message-ID: <20020424135723.29055.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Just hoping to get some ideas for making control horns in 1/72 scale. Basically I like the idea of drilling a lot for locating the horn. But what to make the horns out of? plasticard? flattened wires?? I have the Eduard Dr1 (1/72) which comes with molded control horns. Yet I want to sand these off and add scratch built horns as the molded ones are very big. Actaully I have the profipack version with PE horns yet I used these on my Roden Dr1. But getting them on was a nightmare which I believe was due to the fact that I did'nt have any locating holes to help with placement. Anyway, ideas from more experienced people would be appreciated! Thanks, William Anthony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:03:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? Message-ID: Bill wrote: But getting them on > was a nightmare This sums it up pretty well! I just use tiny bits of plasticard, glue them on with white glue, then keep glueing them on whenever they fall off. I would also be interested in a better way, but I'm not convinced that drilling is worth the bother. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:03:43 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: ASSISTANCE Message-ID: That's what I think, too. I'll keep trying. >>> ot811@myrealbox.com 04/24/02 08:58AM >>> Lance muses: >>>>> I'm not sure these guys are completely honest... ----- hmmm, not likely. They have been in business for quite long. Must be accounting errors at your bank. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? Message-ID: <20020424140515.B530E468EF@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT), bill anthony wrote: > Just hoping to get some ideas for making control >horns in 1/72 scale. Basically I like the idea of >drilling a lot for locating the horn. But what to >make the horns out of? plasticard? flattened wires?? One item I definitely picked up from Steve Hustad. Drill a hole all the way through where the control horn is supposed to be. Using plastic rod, insert a piece too big all the way through and affix with liquid cement (if you're talking about an injected plastic kit). Make sure the hole you're drilling isn't larger than the plastic rod you're using. :-) Once dry, sand to shape. Strongest control horns in our scale. > I have the Eduard Dr1 (1/72) which comes with molded >control horns. Yet I want to sand these off and add >scratch built horns as the molded ones are very big. >Actaully I have the profipack version with PE horns >yet I used these on my Roden Dr1. But getting them on >was a nightmare which I believe was due to the fact >that I did'nt have any locating holes to help with >placement. Been there, done that, and you're right. A total nightmare. Probably took me just as long to paint the entire plane as it did just to put on the p/e horns/wires. Man! I will *not* do that again. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:35:32 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? Message-ID: <027e01c1eb9d$49cf4dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> If you have a razor saw, saw a slot where the control horn must be, insert a strip of thin styrene, put the smallest drop of CA glue on the joint and when dry cut to shape with a scalpel. Sometimes when shaping the strip would pop off the slot. No worries, start again, it's much easier than trying to fit the PE horns D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:35:35 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Replicating Control Horns in 1/72??? Message-ID: Using PE control horns, like those from Tom's or PART, can be made much easier by cutting a slit in the leading edge of the moveable control surface, and CAing the brass components in place. You can wedge both a top and bottom horn (if appropriate) into the same slot. Matt's approach with plastic works fine, too, and one can flatten the plastic rod with a pair of needle-nose pliers where it emerges from the surface. It's quick and very easy to then whittle off a little to create the right shape. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:38:25 -0400 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 'Propellerblatt' is online now Message-ID: <6DA8DC94.74C0C025.138E644A@aol.com> I think the CD is great! . . . and the price is right. The story of the build is told by outstanding, detailed color photos with minimal but adequate captions in both German and English. You get to see how a Dr.I is put together. I haven't finished it yet. I'm thinking about printing it out as I do most of my reading in bed. I didn't order the Oberusel CD because it is only in German, but if it's anything like the Dr.I, I want it. FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Tue, 23 Apr 2002  8:47:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KarrArt@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 4/23/02 3:24:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >CoolSpadLuke@aol.com writes: > ><<  At least my reading of German will improve; I just got the Fokker Dr.I In >Detail CD  >> > > Just how good is the CD? It's whispered to me in the night but I haven't >lunged for it yet. >RK > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4355 **********************