WWI Digest 4347 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aces by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 2) RE: Oil Wash & Acrylics by "Pedro Soares" 3) Re: MoS AC by "Brent Theobald" 4) OT Colur photos again by "Pedro Soares" 5) RE: Oil Wash & Acrylics by "Hans Trauner" 6) Your E-Mail Marketing Answer - Opt-In................................22435 by pksmith@portugalmail.com 7) Re: Aces by KarrArt@aol.com 8) An observation by "Steven Perry" 9) Re: An observation by "Bob Pearson" 10) Re: Linke Hofmann R Plane Plans? by Volker Haeusler 11) More MoS AC by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: The Leadering ISP in Asia (? can't help it...) & DC by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 13) Re: OT Colur photos again by Eric GALLAUD 14) Fw: The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project by "Alberto Casirati" 15) Re: The Leadering ISP in Asia (? can't help it...) & DC by "Bob Pearson" 16) re:The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 17) A good book to buy? by James Fahey 18) Re: A good book to buy? by "Michael Kendix" 19) Re: More MoS AC by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:27:23 -0500 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aces Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC9639@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Yeah, like anybody ever comes through Arkansas... "Arkansas? What country is that in?" Ken Zelnick List member tally: 1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:56:21 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: Oil Wash & Acrylics Message-ID: <008201c1e7ed$0a7e4f80$c17316d5@netcabo.pt> I think Michael's suggestion of watercolour for the wash is a pretty good one, since it's washable. But here's another suggestion that I've tried and does work for accentuating engraved panels: wood stain. You should start with a gloss base colour. Then with a very thin brush loaded with woodstain touch the panel line with it. The woodstain should run by capilary action. Any stains out of the panel lines can be cleaned with a cotton bud. There are sveral types of woodstain available at any crafts store. some are waterbased, others use whit spirit or another mild solvent. I've used the later and I've never had it eat through the base coat, but one should really let it dry before doing this. Also undercoating with future isn't such a bad idea. I do most of my painting in what I call household paints, the kind of enamels that you can buy at a supermarket or any hardware store. These are gloss, so apllying washes is always easier. Greg, if ever you think about trying this, please try it first on an old kit or a piece of scrap plastic with some panel like groves. Don't do this on your next masterpiece without trying it somewhere else. The great advatage of the wood stain is that there are lots of very cool translucent colours, all very suitable for our needs. The downside is that it takes a while to dry. HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:59:10 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MoS AC Message-ID: Howdy Matt, >In *all* of the photos of the AC, the ribs have very light rib tapes. > >What color do people think those rib tapes would be? A lighter CDL? >If >so, then why are they extremely noticeable? This is a conundrum, I >hope >to figure out very, very soon. Can anyone shed light on this? Here's my take on it: They are exactly the same color. Only it's two layers thick. Therefore the ribtapes appear darker because less light is passing through. There's also a rib underneath it that could be showing thru. Hmmm, what if they used a different grade of cloth for rib tapes? One that was darker? Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 23:08:09 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: OT Colur photos again Message-ID: <00c201c1e7ee$b0da1700$c17316d5@netcabo.pt> I was browsing through my stack of avions and I noticed again the ad for a special issue they put out last year called L'Aviation Francaise en coleurs -1910-1960, which as the title implies is a collection of colour photos of French air force aircraft from 1910 to the 60's. Anyone know what's inside OT wise? Eric, tu l'as vu? Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:18:10 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Oil Wash & Acrylics Message-ID: <00bb01c1e7f8$78b02540$f5a072d4@FRITZweb> Oils with turpentine is the way I did my Jasta 30 Pfalz ( see models page). If you don't soak your model with turpentine and remove the overdue within minutes it won't harm the acrylics. I always prefer oils for washings as the pigments are better than water based paints and, more important, turpentine has higher viscosity over water ( even if the H2O has some dish washer liquid in it...). It's easier to control and flows better into the recesses etc. Abd I always prefer pure turpentine, no laquer thinner etc. The second choice is 'Terpentinersatz', that's White Spirit I guess. On my last 1/48 Pfalz I did not paint the panels but used bare metal foil, toned down with steel wool. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:44:13 -1900 From: pksmith@portugalmail.com To: Subject: Your E-Mail Marketing Answer - Opt-In................................22435 Message-ID: <000017547d76$0000092e$0000711c@MX1.INOVA.COM.BR> wrmailer

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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:41:16 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aces Message-ID: <7a.2585d874.29f2051c@aol.com> In a message dated 4/19/02 2:35:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, KZELNIC@entergy.com writes: << Yeah, like anybody ever comes through Arkansas... "Arkansas? What country is that in?" Ken Zelnick List member tally: 1 >> Heck, I thought the correct question was "What planet is that on?" RK.....and don't none o' you Arkansas folks come gunning for me.......I've got connections there! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:51:54 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: An observation Message-ID: <021d01c1e7fd$2f2e7340$8a301c18@tampabay.rr.com> Boy am I glad white metal can bend so many times without snapping. Don't ask ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:58:58 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: An observation Message-ID: <101926100301@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> At least when it does it can be CAed back together Don't ask :-) Bob ---------- >From: "Steven Perry" > Boy am I glad white metal can bend so many times without snapping. > > Don't ask ;-) > > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 04:29:34 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Linke Hofmann R Plane Plans? Message-ID: Brent, > Did anyone locate the Windsock article and plans? The 1/72 plans are > important since I'm going to blow it up to 1/48. Less distortion > going from > 1/72 than from 1/144. LiHo R I - vol 10 no 1, Jan/Feb ´94 LiHo R II - vol 10 no 2 Mac/Apr ´94 If you don´t have thes, LMK. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:06:24 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: More MoS AC Message-ID: Argh! The cockpit p/e won't fit into the Omega fuselage, at least not without a lot of thinning. And my Dremel battery just died. Cripes! Sorry, just had to rant. If sp can do it, so can I. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:33:21 -0400 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Leadering ISP in Asia (? can't help it...) & DC Message-ID: <18FC77FC.78D95B6D.138E644A@aol.com> Whenever you finally get resettled, Bob, perhaps you should open up a "Bed & Breakfast". That way we can visit you, Doc and Graham, making a nice vacation out of it. Also, if you ever hope to finish the DWC in a year, you'll need all the visiting list help you can get. ;-) Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Fri, 19 Apr 2002  3:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Bob Pearson" writes: b > >(who shall be annoyed when he gets surpassed as it is another couple of >years before I can add further to my tally .. unless anyone visits here) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:00:31 +0200 From: Eric GALLAUD To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT Colur photos again Message-ID: <3CC0D9CF.873DA672@club-internet.fr> Unfortunately, I never heard of it, but I will check better. Eric Pedro Soares a écrit : > I was browsing through my stack of avions and I noticed again the ad for a > special issue they put out last year called L'Aviation Francaise en > coleurs -1910-1960, which as the title implies is a collection of colour > photos of French air force aircraft from 1910 to the 60's. > > Anyone know what's inside OT wise? Eric, tu l'as vu? > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 06:14:58 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Fw: The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project Message-ID: <004001c1e821$ef9a0da0$86e422d4@s> It seems that my reply of the 18th Aprile never get to the List's server, so here it is again... All the very best, Alberto Casirati ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:35 PM Subject: re: The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project > Dear Grzegorz, > > thank you very much for the additional information, most of which was not > available to me when I wrote those historical notes. > > As you saw, when positive proof of a fact or situation is lacking, I use > expressions like "in all probability" or "it seems more reasonable to > assume" and the like. > > After those notes were written, and first published in the web site of the > Bergamo Museum of History to be later also made available on Jim's excellent > site, Albatros Productions Ltd. published Gregory Alegi's excellent Datafile > on the Ansaldo A-1, to which I will refer to here and there in the following > comments. > > Your dates dealing with orders and deliveries of A-1s from Italy are > interesting, and I am sure they are based on contemporary documents, but it > seems that Polish and Italian sources are somewhat conflicting in this > respect, as Gregory Alegi states on page 34 of the Datafile, note n.9. > > Although it is evident that the Polish purchasing commission was forced to > act in a situation of need, it seems odd to me that they could order (and > even decide to ask for the license to build) an aircraft which could be > considered inferior at least to its opponents. Infact, according to Maj. > Cedric W. Fauntleroy, the A-1 proved to be "much better than the Albatros" > D.III (of A-H origins), as it was faster and more manoeuvrable, with better > range and reliability (and the D.III was not powered by the SPA 6A, but by > those Austro-Daimler engines which, like many others, are never listed > amongst those which gave problems to Polish ground crews...). > The A-1 also proved superior to the celebrated Fokker D.VII, being > "...faster and better manoeuvring" then the latter (see the above mentioned > Datafile, page 14). Of course, the A-1 needed some training, as it was a > more recent product which had different features, also in terms of wing > load. It could not be flown as a Hanriot Hd.1, for example, and > ***probably*** many accidents occourred when the aircraft was flown > regardless of its flying qualities. The same happened many times before with > very different aircraft in almost all countries.... > Fauntleory also praised the Balilla as "being built like tanks", with wings > which "wouldn't come off of them" even in high speed dives. Not a secondary > quality in those times. According to Gregory Alegi (see Datafile on the A-1, > page 14), "it was also decided that the high-performance A.1 should be > initially reserved for the more experienced and combat-proven pilots, while > others would continue flying the D.III". > > As for the reliability of the SPA 6A engine, since it was a sound design, as > it had already demostrated so many times during the first world war, it > really seems strange to me that the experienced Polish ground crews could > find problems with it only, especially given the fact that, as you say, > "after the WWI they proved to be able to make operational and mantain in > good condition even very old and worned engines produced by various > manufacturers, in various countries during WWI, both in frontline units and > in repair workshops [...] and Polish engineers proved to be able to make > airworthy even planes and engines, which French crews (serving in Poland) > decided to scrap." According to Gregory Alegi (see Datafile on the A-1, page > 14), "Americans claimed that Polish pilots had refused to use the Balilla > due to engine problems CAUSED BY THE LOW-GRADE GASOLINE [my capital] and > that Fauntleroy solved the problem by adjusting the carburettor nozzles > differently". This seems to shed new light on the topic. > On the other hand, I find it very difficult to believe that the SPA 6A > engines which were delivered did not meet the Italian quality control > standards. AFAIK, there is no proof of this, so I suppose you are guessing > here. > > Anyway, I really appreciate your interesting comments. They suggest that > history is never written once for all: new elements always come to light and > the only way to made our knowledge deeper is to share. So thanks for this ! > > All the very best, > > Alberto Casirati > > > > ------------ Original Message ------------ > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:00:20 +0200 > From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > To: > Subject: re: The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project > Message-ID: <00ac01c1e6d9$0100b5c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > > Hi list! > I don't want to begun Polish-Italian war, especially if I like Italy > very much and deeply admire Alberto Casirati, but some his statements > given in Balilla history on Jim's page needs correction. > > Alberto wrote: "In all probability, Polish pilots were happy with > their mounts, as Polish authorities decided to build the type under > license." - which is not true. Transaction of purchasing Italian > built Balillas and obtaining licence were almost simultaneous, and > precise dates you have below: > 1st batch of 10 Italian built planes: order from August 1919 > 2nd batch of 15 Italian planes: order from March 1920 > 3rd batch of 10 Italian planes: order from August 1920 > First Balilla which ever reached Poland (demonstration, pre-ordered > plane called "prim" or "primo") appeared in crate in December 1919, > and wasn't assembled before January 1920. First batch of 15 from > ordered planes appeared in Poland 9th January 1920, and group take > off from Warsaw to front unit was in 1st May 1920, so May 1920 is the > earliest time when Polish pilots could experience anyhing with their > Balillas. > License for producing Balillas in Poland was purchased in October > 1919, TWO MONTHS BEFORE first Italian built Balilla reached Polish > soil. > Decision of purchasing and license building of that planes was > undertaken in very bad conditions of war (which for Poland ended in > autumn 1920, remember Soviet army 15 km from Warsaw in August > 1920!!!), and after failure or partial only success of similar talks > with France, Britain and US, and after collapse of import from > Germany and Austria due to Allied restrictions on Central Powers > industries. > > Alberto also wrote: "War needs, the Polish ground crews inexperience > and the fact that engines had been produced during the first world > war, caused some reliability problems, which were rashly explained > with a supposed engine unreliability. As the SPA 6A engine gave a > very good account of itself during the first world conflict, it seems > more reasonable to assume that the Polish aircraft powerplants were > not adequately overhauled before being pressed in service." > In fact Polish ground crews were very skilled and experienced, > serving during war in various, but mostly in very well organized > German and Austrian Air Forces. After the WWI they proved to be able > to make operational and mantain in good condition even very old and > worned engines produced by various manufacturers, in various > countries during WWI, both in frontline units and in repair > workshops. From over 2000 planes used in Poland between 1918-1924, > almost half (968) planes were war loot (mostly planes abandoned on > Polish soil by Germans and Austrians), and considering that Poland > wasn't at that time by any means WWI frontline or didn't included any > important aviation manufacturers, great majority of that planes were > old and in bad condition (we had many Albies B.II, C.I, HB B.Is, and > even Albatros D.II, AGO C.II and Lohner B.II). Also planes purchased > by Poland were rarely new ones, and Polish engineers proved to be > able to make airworthy even planes and engines, which French crews > (serving in Poland) decided to scrap. > > Another fact is, that Poland used great number of engine types, > British, French, German, Austrian and Italian, and really very well > known problems we had only with Italian ones. > > Engines delivered from Italy were unreliable, but probably not > because of general unreliability of design, but beacuse Italians > delivered not engines selected by Polish comission, but other of the > same type, not new ones and of bad quality (maybe those which didn't > passed Italian quality control). Document proving that fact is in > Polish archives, and whole case have been solving on diplomatic > level. > > I must admit, that Alberto's statement about bad quality of Polish > Balilla production is definitely right, but production is different > thing than operating maintenance. > > Warmest cheers for whole list, and mostly for Italians. > Ciao!!! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:59:19 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Leadering ISP in Asia (? can't help it...) & DC Message-ID: <101928246401@smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com> Yeah, their wanting it in a year (or sooner) is going to be interesting .. Actually there is no real time frame given, but I suppose if I do my usual trip of going overboard on a new project for awhile and do the main structure and then see how much detail it can get after that. .... it is going to be hanging on the ceiling after all. At least I can get more enthused over the DWC than I can over an 8' PBY There is still a 2-3 day drive from the Doc/Graham's place in ol' Winterpeg to here. . There used to be some listees in the halfway mark of Alberta though. I know that when I travel I try and arrange to meet listees on the way. . Dave Zulis and I did this when we travelled through the southern US in 2000. Bob ---------- >From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com > Whenever you finally get resettled, Bob, perhaps you should open up a "Bed > & Breakfast". That way we can visit you, Doc and Graham, making a nice > vacation out of it. Also, if you ever hope to finish the DWC in a year, > you'll need all the visiting list help you can get. ;-) > > Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:26:26 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re:The Ansaldo Balilla restoration project Message-ID: <00bf01c1e85f$0f52b420$0200a8c0@x.pl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto Casirati > Albatros Productions Ltd. published Gregory Alegi's excellent > Datafile on the Ansaldo A-1, to which I will refer to here and there in the > following comments. > > Your dates dealing with orders and deliveries of A-1s from Italy are > > interesting, and I am sure they are based on contemporary documents, but > it seems that Polish and Italian sources are somewhat conflicting in this > > respect, as Gregory Alegi states on page 34 of the Datafile, note n.9. In correspondence prof. Tomasz Goworek told me, that he helped Gregory Alegi in writing Datafile text, but his coments and additions didn't came to Alegi before end of work. Some not important, but clearly visible examples of Datafile mistakes are seen on the cover painting: plane has wrong radiator, and sun shines over Mokotowskie Airfield in Warsaw straight from the north. > Although it is evident that the Polish purchasing commission was forced to > act in a situation of need, it seems odd to me that they could order (and > even decide to ask for the license to build) an aircraft which could be > considered inferior at least to its opponents. Usual fact, you can see this during Spanish Civil War very clearly. War needs forces governments to buy every available armament. (Of course I don't consider Balilla "every available", but also not the world's best). Also fighters during Polish-Bolshevik war weren't generally used in it's primary role, but more as attack planes or reconaissance planes (even Fokkers D.VII were in Poland equipped with bomb racks) so buing plane inferior to opposing fighters isn't nothing special. BTW, why some countries still purchases Russian equiment? Because US one isn't available for them. >Infact, according to Maj. > Cedric W. Fauntleroy, the A-1 proved to be "much better than the Albatros" > D.III (of A-H origins), as it was faster and more manoeuvrable, with > better range and reliability (and the D.III was not powered by the SPA 6A, but by > those Austro-Daimler engines which, like many others, are never listed > amongst those which gave problems to Polish ground crews...). > The A-1 also proved superior to the celebrated Fokker D.VII, being > "...faster and better manoeuvring" then the latter (see the above > mentioned Datafile, page 14). Nothing special, as Albatros D.III (even Ba 253) was very old design, only with stronger engine. Sesquiplane design of D.III, although stronger in Oeffag version than in German one, wasn't very strong = so wasn't very reliable. D.VIIs in Polish service were usually inferior version with Mercedes engine, also many of them were old and worn examples. > According to Gregory Alegi (see Datafile on the A-1, > > page 14), "it was also decided that the high-performance A.1 should be > > initially reserved for the more experienced and combat-proven pilots, > while others would continue flying the D.III". At time of A-1s arrival, remaining in Eskadra Kosciuszkowska D.IIIs were very worn 'flying coffins' after about year of frontline service in rather harsh conditions of eastern front. Also in 1917 Fokkers F.I in Jasta 11 were given to more experienced pilots, like MvR, Wolff and Voss, while others would continue flying the D.III or D.V. > "Americans claimed that Polish pilots had refused to use the Balilla > > due to engine problems CAUSED BY THE LOW-GRADE GASOLINE [my capital] and > > that Fauntleroy solved the problem by adjusting the carburettor nozzles > > differently". This seems to shed new light on the topic. Here I agree unconditionally. Gasoline quality could be very bad at that time on eastern front. > > On the other hand, I find it very difficult to believe that the SPA 6A > > engines which were delivered did not meet the Italian quality control > > standards. AFAIK, there is no proof of this, so I suppose you are guessing > > here. I wrote: "Engines delivered from Italy were unreliable, but probably not because of general unreliability of design, but beacuse Italians delivered not engines selected by Polish comission, but other of the same type, not new ones and of bad quality (maybe those which didn't passed Italian quality control). Document proving that fact is in Polish archives, and whole case was being solved on diplomatic level." And idea involving Italian quality control is my own assumption but supported by some facts, those given above, and also with fact, that from 159 delivered from Italy engines inspected by Polish comission, 37 were "completely unsuitable for use" (maybe that number includes both SPA and FIAT engines. Unfortunately, more airplane and engine purchases from Italy weren't successfull, because of bad quality of delivered material (Macchi M9 and SIAI FBA S-4). Writing 'bad quality' I don't mean bad design, but old and worn examples, probably those rejected by other purchasers. > Anyway, I really appreciate your interesting comments. They suggest that > history is never written once for all: new elements always come to light > and > the only way to made our knowledge deeper is to share. So thanks for this! I appreciate Alberto's comments very highly too, and as I mentioned on the beginning of my first letter, I don't want Italo-Polish war. I also don't want to state, that A-1 was bad or unsuccessful airplane, but I'm sure that it caused some troubles, not only because bad maintenance by Polish crews. Warmest greetings!!! Grzegorz Mazurowski _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:37:06 +1200 From: James Fahey To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A good book to buy? Message-ID: <001f01c1e85f$b37dfc80$fd91a7cb@computer> Greetings All I am thinking of buying some of the following books and was hoping that someone might be able to comment on how they rate as worthwhile reference books. I haven't seen any of them for myself but my wife says she will get one for my birthday. What a marvellous woman she is! DAVILLA, JAMES J: & SOLTAN, ARTHUR M: FRENCH AIRCRAFT OF THE FIRST WORLD WAR Flying Machines Press MASON, HERBERT MOLLOY: HIGH FLEW THE FALCONS The French Aces of World War I J B Lippincott Co Philadelphia 1965 THETFORD, OWEN G: & RIDING, E J: AIRCRAFT OF THE 1914-18 WAR Harborough Publishing Leceister 1946 scarce first edition Cheers James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:58:32 +0000 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A good book to buy? Message-ID: >From: James Fahey > >I am thinking of buying some of the following.. > >DAVILLA, JAMES J: & SOLTAN, ARTHUR M: >FRENCH AIRCRAFT OF THE FIRST WORLD WAR >Flying Machines Press James: I recommednd the above, though I haven't seen the others. It costs about 6 times as much as a Datafile but: 1. It has a lot more than 6 times the information. 2. There are few Datafiles that cover French aircraft. It has loads of drawings, pictures and colour profiles. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:32:59 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: More MoS AC Message-ID: I hate PE fuselage structures. The real thing wasn't like that (flat) and the most probable ting is that trying to bend it it would end wavy or skewed and even with all the care the damend thing won't fit. I've cut the sides of the Rosemont Albatros detail set, and added styrene bits after it was bend to fit the interior of the Eduard Albie. It looks good (and I left it there since then. When I cleaned up the interior of the Eduard Dr.1 profipack, I tried to be a good boy and bent the PE as indicated on the instructions: it ended wavy and looks like the triplane would have had a crash before. I left it at that point, waiting for a time when I feel like re-doing the fuselage sides with sprue. I'm sorry to say this, but I guess that from the PART sets, i would end using everything but the fuselage structures, that is, the 70% of the fret. Now in the case of the Pfalz D.XII, it must be interesting to know if anyone has attempted to build the radiator from the tiny parts they provide! That's beyond my masochism level! D. >From: "Matt Bittner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] More MoS AC >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:10:07 -0400 (EDT) > >Argh! The cockpit p/e won't fit into the Omega fuselage, at >least not without a lot of thinning. And my Dremel battery just >died. Cripes! > >Sorry, just had to rant. If sp can do it, so can I. ;-) > > >Matt Bittner > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4347 **********************