WWI Digest 4334 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Odp: Re: New book by "NEIL EDDY" 2) To: Manager--Your best aluminum diecasting components supply sources from China by Su Xiao 3) Re: Spark plugs by "David Watts" 4) Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book by Shane Weier 5) Re: New book by Shane Weier 6) Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 7) Re: Spark plugs.. Not WHITE ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) Re: 5 colour camouflage and airbrushing by Tom Gourdie 9) DOWNLOAD by Jan Vihonen 10) Re: DOWNLOAD by Jan Vihonen 11) Patchwork CDL effect by Dave F 12) Off to D.C. by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: Off to D.C. by David Fleming 14) New book - Caudron by "Pedro N. Soares" 15) RE: Patchwork CDL effect by "Diego Fernetti" 16) RE: 5 colour camouflage and airbrushing by "Diego Fernetti" 17) Araras contest by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 18) RE: Another Ace Status by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 19) Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book by "tsollers" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:15:59 +1000 From: "NEIL EDDY" To: Subject: Re: Odp: Re: New book Message-ID: <001901c1e42b$de4b7ba0$fcc932d2@default> Oops! I should read my mail before I send off replies I think.. Sorry for being repetitive in my last post. All The Best Neil E. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: [WWI] Odp: Re: New book > > > but glass plate prints > > . NOT negatives, but prints .. A N D .. they were in colour > !!!!!!!!! > > > > They are just of daily scenes of French troops, but the colours are > amazing. > > Bob! > You mean transparencies (slides)? > > AFAIK Ernest Shackleton photographed Antarctica in colour in 1909, on > glass transparencies. > But colours may be not accurate! Photo emulsions used at that time > often created false shades or even colours. That problems were still > visible even during WWII, on AGFA colour slides, used widely by > German press during war. > First problem was uneven reception of light (like on b&w > orthochromatic photos), and second - quality of photo emulsions, > which were sometimes good, sometimes bad, and had short "use before:" > time. > So be carefull, and Matt with his Nieuport too!!! > G. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:53:32 +0800 From: Su Xiao Subject: To: Manager--Your best aluminum diecasting components supply sources from China Message-ID: <3CA368D100489FCE@mta02.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) This is a multi-part message in MIME format --c0274cfd-506f-11d6-84be-00d0f83129a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Note: Could you please send this important information to your Manager = responsible for purchasing? 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Room 2006, 120 Shanxi Road, Nanjing, China 210009 Tel:+86-25-3325825, 3307888-7521 Fax:+86-25-6630354 info@dadao-group.com --c0274cfd-506f-11d6-84be-00d0f83129a6-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:47:33 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: Re: Spark plugs Message-ID: Hi all, As mentioned the "fresh" color is a white porcelain main body with a black eagle and BOSCH, the metal base is a flat khaki green-gray color. A water-cooled engine doesn't get as hot as an air-cooled engine so don't go too brown, plus remember mechanics kept up on these machines unlike most of us garage mechanics changing them more frequently than our standard once a year whether it needs it or not, (actually I haven't changed the plugs for seven years on my car). Best, Dave W. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Ross Moorhouse Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs Ok another go at typing this. Sorry i am not the best at typing. Brand new plugs will be nice and white for sure. Ross who might just need some sleep... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > Well the porcielin (how ever you spell it.) discolours. This I know from > changing plugs on my bikes engine. You will also fing that where the > porcielin and the metal of the plug meet each other that this can become > almost brown in colour because of the amount of heat that affects this area. > > Brand bew plugs will bne nive and white for sure. > > Cheers > > Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Perry" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:58 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > > > > > > > Knowing what spark plugs look like after much use I would guess that > what > > > you can see of them would be a yellow/off white colour which would > reflect > > > the heat damage to the porceiln (spelling as per normal for me) part > which > > > is visible. > > > > Thanks Ross > > I tried an off white and it worked well. The pure white just jumps out too > > much. The off white shows contrast without jumping out and grabbing the > eye. > > sp > > Who is now awaiting a post stating irrefutably that the color of plugs > could > > not possibly have been off white ;-) > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:55:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDE59@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Larry says >> These are Russian from pre-WWI Russia and decidedly off topic. >> However, they demonstrate that outstandig colour images could be >> produced prior to our period of interest. > >He used an interesting technique. I would wonder, however, how much >color rendition was affected by those techniques. Certainly the use >of color filters generates odd changes in color tonality. Back when I studied photography in Uni, we repeated this technique, not as a demonstration of what was doen before WW1, but of the way modern colour film works - multiple layers, each sensitive to a different spectrum which is all he was doing by filtering the light and making three B&W negs. Tricky bit back then was that he had no way to make prints. They had to be viewed by projection of the three images through complimentary (IIRC) filters onto the same screen Shane (nb - nothing. Too "out of it") ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:01:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: New book Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDE5A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Grzeg says: >AFAIK Ernest Shackleton photographed Antarctica in colour in 1909, on >glass transparencies. He didn't you know. *Frank Hurley* took colour photographs of the expedition. He also took almost all of the few known contemporary colour photos of WW1 aircraft. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:35:42 +0100 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book Message-ID: I've actually used this technique to demonstrate the Clerk Maxwell Trichromatic Theory of Colour vision, and the results are wildly variable. Took me about a week to get visually acceptable results, but that of course is using modern panchromatic materials, which perform MUCH better than the films of the time. Lots of tweaking was still necessary to get a greyscale to reproduce even passably. Therefore you will be able to see that subjects were red or green or blue, but the hue and saturation will still be very much a matter of conjecture. N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:40:44 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Spark plugs.. Not WHITE ... Message-ID: <003901c1e450$d9f95fc0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Looks like I am wrong about the colour of the plugs.. Sorry Steve maybe i should of had a look around first before I replied.. http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Beard120/rkbeard120_05.jpg (watch the word wrap on this URL) I know its not a German Inline engine BUT.. Have a look at the plugs. They seem to be shiny metal colour. Phew even typed up this post a bit neater and even i can read it. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Watts" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > Hi all, > > As mentioned the "fresh" color is a white porcelain main body with a black > eagle and BOSCH, the metal base is a flat khaki green-gray color. A > water-cooled engine doesn't get as hot as an air-cooled engine so don't go > too brown, plus remember mechanics kept up on these machines unlike most of > us garage mechanics changing them more frequently than our standard once a > year whether it needs it or not, (actually I haven't changed the plugs for > seven years on my car). > > Best, > Dave W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Ross > Moorhouse > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:12 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > > Ok another go at typing this. Sorry i am not the best at typing. > > Brand new plugs will be nice and white for sure. > > Ross who might just need some sleep... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Moorhouse" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:06 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > > > > Well the porcielin (how ever you spell it.) discolours. This I know from > > changing plugs on my bikes engine. You will also fing that where the > > porcielin and the metal of the plug meet each other that this can become > > almost brown in colour because of the amount of heat that affects this > area. > > > > Brand bew plugs will bne nive and white for sure. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Perry" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:58 PM > > Subject: [WWI] Re: Spark plugs > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing what spark plugs look like after much use I would guess that > > what > > > > you can see of them would be a yellow/off white colour which would > > reflect > > > > the heat damage to the porceiln (spelling as per normal for me) part > > which > > > > is visible. > > > > > > Thanks Ross > > > I tried an off white and it worked well. The pure white just jumps out > too > > > much. The off white shows contrast without jumping out and grabbing the > > eye. > > > sp > > > Who is now awaiting a post stating irrefutably that the color of plugs > > could > > > not possibly have been off white ;-) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:24:45 +0100 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: 5 colour camouflage and airbrushing Message-ID: Len Agree wholeheartedly with your comment about the Citadel bottles! The screw tops are awful but on the other hand they almost certainly keep the bottles absolutely airtight! On the colour mixing I don't do it scientifically - once it looks like the colour I think I am seeking I use it - none of the so many percent of this, so many percent of that! There are some shades that are fine straight out of the bottle. ot for a minute unless it is viewed as being a late Pemberton-Billing! - I wanted to do a model of the prototype Sp****** and the only appropriate blue I could find straight from the bottle was one of the Citadel range. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Len Smith [mailto:lensmith@clara.net] Sent: 12 April 2002 18:08 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: 5 colour camouflage and airbrushing Tom, The only surprise about your use of Citadel paints is that so few others also use them. You then double my pleasure by admitting that you mix your own colours, something that very few on the List will do. (It causes me great amusement to read queries such as 'can someone advise me of the correct colour of MvRs left sock, and is there an exact match in any of the paint ranges?) My only complaint is that Citadel replaced the beautiful white flip top bottles with the terrible black screw tops. Regarding brushes, Citadels own brand is useful but do not last. My own favourites are made by A.S.Handover (give them a ring on 020 7359 4696 and ask for a catalogue), they do nothing other than make brushes and do it very well. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith From: "Tom Gourdie" > I still use brushes - very high quality sable by manufacturers such as > Winsor and Newton - and I use a mix of enamels and acrylics, Humbrol for > enamels and (surprisingly to some no doubt) Citadel acrylics. With the > latter in particular I do my own colour mixing and I actually think its > about the best paint around for a fine finish. There are several shades > which are ideal for CDL straight from the bottle. The pigment is extremely > fine, it is very opaque so there is no problem with getting even coverage > with only one coat, and provided you don't overwork it you get a brushmark > free finish. Don't be put off Citadel paint by its yobbish shade names > (snot green, bile brown, rotten flesh etc) and its sci-fi, or whatever, > connections - the product is first class and it certainly makes me quite > happy to continue working with a brush! This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:37:04 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DOWNLOAD Message-ID: <3CBA9F40.9C85B50D@helsinki.fi> Yes please, I'm interested in your offer. 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Sorry for spamming the list. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:07:04 +0100 From: Dave F To: Subject: Patchwork CDL effect Message-ID: <1018865224.3cbaa6485a73a@netmail.pipex.net> Further to our recent discussion about the 'patchwork effect on Steve Hustad's Zepplin, I came across a snap I took of the RAF Museum's Sopwith Tabloid replica, which shows a similar effect. I must confes I was doubtful as to the authenticity of this approach, but albeit this is a replica, I have changed my mind !! Another interesting feature of this a/c is under the upper wing - the outer port wing has rib tapes darker than the surrounding linen, the centre section has lighter tapes !! I'll send the photos to Alan/Matt/Mark foe inclusion on the site, but until then, here's one of them: http://www.dave.fleming.dial.pipex.com/tabloid.jpg Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:11:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Off to D.C. Message-ID: Since I'm off to D.C. later today, please send any site submissions to either Al or Mark, if you need to have them up ASAP. Please do *not* send them to me while I'm gone, as I don't want to overflow my mailbox before I return. Thanks! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:43:04 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Subject: Re: Off to D.C. Message-ID: <1018867384.3cbaaeb8899e3@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Matt Bittner : > Since I'm off to D.C. later today, please send any site > submissions to either Al or Mark, if you need to have them up > ASAP. Please do *not* send them to me while I'm gone, as I don't > want to overflow my mailbox before I return. Thanks! > > Nieuport discussion time again folks !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:50:17 +0100 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New book - Caudron Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301814685@TUFAO> Gang, The postman just dropped on my desk the second volume of Les avions Caudron,by Andre Hauet (lela Presse) The only thing that is still lacking are decent plans for each of the types covered, although in the case of the C.635 Simoun there are 2 pages of 1/72 plans. The photo coverage is again superb and there are very extensive chapters on the Caudron Renault fighters of WW2, the 30's racers, the Simoun Series, the Goeland series, etc. etc. At the end of the book there are almost 30 excellent profiles, the only OT being a G3, a GIV and a R.11. (the g4 is realy nice for an aicraft coded C 2605 of escadrille C.228, with a red cock over a blue stripe on a white background at the nose of the cockpit nacelle). Real good.I'd rate it as 10/10 if there were plans to match. As such I'd say 8/10 for the 2 volumes put together. Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: segunda-feira, 15 de Abril de 2002 11:16 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Off to D.C. > > > Since I'm off to D.C. later today, please send any site > submissions to either Al or Mark, if you need to have them up > ASAP. Please do *not* send them to me while I'm gone, as I don't > want to overflow my mailbox before I return. Thanks! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:48:39 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Patchwork CDL effect Message-ID: <01b701c1e473$7c28b8a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave! > I'll send the photos to Alan/Matt/Mark foe inclusion on the site, but until > then, here's one of them: > http://www.dave.fleming.dial.pipex.com/tabloid.jpg A beauty, showing the always interesting area of transition from stringered to flat surface on the turtledeck (same effect can be viewed on the Halberstadt D series fighters). The shapes and geometry of facric covered machines are always much more intriguing and subtle than later metal covered designs, that followed more aerodinamic rules and therefore the changes of shapes are more predictable. With a frame covered in tight fabric you never know exactly how the surfaces are unless you see the real machine. Please send the pics to the web editors soon! Thanks for sharing. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:10:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: 5 colour camouflage and airbrushing Message-ID: <02c101c1e476$77b66300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You're right Grzes! It must be like that, I haven't read that tale since years ago, but in a strange way seems like some details stick to the mind and surface again when we less expect it. Must re-read those delightful books. D. nr: "Imitation of Christ" Thomas de Kempis and a Rasputin bio. ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski > Diego! > Remember some Cortazar's short story? > Cockroach filled chockolats? > G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:55:42 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Araras contest Message-ID: <00a501c1e47c$dac648b0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, folks! Returning from a nice weekend in Araras (around 200 km far from Sao Paulo), let me tell you what I saw there. The contest was wonderful! Many models, high quality and, since Araras has a kind of central location inside Sao Paulo state, I could meet friends from all modeling groups of the state, from Rio Preto to Santos – many of them, btw, stayed at the same hotel we were, and on Saturday night we all went to a restaurant to celebrate the 1st anniversary of webkits.com.br online modeling forum! Unfortunately, however, our listee friend Adriano Baumgartner couldn't show up, as well as Luiz Claudio Bussamra, whose wonderful models you already know from my website. Many hobby shops could attend the event. Fair prices and many Revell Dr.I kits! I discovered at least 2 of them were bought (I didn't buy any - I want others to build WWI too!). Instead I bought two extra hands and a big eye :-) Araras was the first contest I attended where we had more 1/48 than 1/72 OT models. And for the first time too all biplanes were OT. Besides my two models, the only other 1/72 kit was a stunning SSW D.III in Udet's colors. The modeler is from Rio de Janeiro and sent the model to a friend of mine - she said she'll give me his e-mail since he seems to be very interested in WWI. 1/48: a Kempf's triplane, two Camels, an amazing Pfalz D.III and a SE5a. Two of the models were from Dalsizo Filho, who owns a hobby shop. Another one is from Lawrence Tumolo, the same guy who built that Nieuport of Rio Claro contest. I didn't discover who built the other two ones, but I'll try to find the names at webkits.com.br forum. As soon as I get all information organized here, I'll have more details like pilots/squadrons of other planes. More good news is that many of the friends I found there are building OT kits, especially for November contest in Rio Claro, which has a special biplane category. And I had the chance of seeing something that you all would love: my friend Nestor is scratchbuilding the interior for a 1/72 D.VII and he brought some pieces. Since no adjective would describe this work in a proper way, all I can say is that Nestor deserves a visit from Diego and his finger chopper as soon as possible! Both split categories were open, WWI 1/72 and 1/48. Which means I brought home two medals, a silver for Berthold's Fokker and a bronze for Degelow's Pfalz - of course no one would take the gold away from that SSW... Well, folks, that's it! Next contests: Sao Paulo (Wings Aviation School), early May - I won't enter my kits in the contest since I was called to judge the WWI category. Then we have Santos, also in May. All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:04:48 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Another Ace Status Message-ID: <00a801c1e47e$22ec2c80$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Well, I can list the contests I attended: Campinas (GPC - name of group) Rio Claro (GPRC) Sao Paulo (GPPSD) Sao Paulo (GSPM) Catanduva (CAT) Araras (GAP) All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Matt > Bittner > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:45 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Another Ace Status > > > Don't know why I'm bring this up - maybe it has to do with my > upcoming DC trip. > > How many different club meetings has one attended? Assuming I > make the IPMS/"D.C." meeting, that will put me over the top: > > IPMS/Fort Crook > IPMS/Lincoln Area Modeler's Society > IPMS/Des Moines (Hawkeye Modeler's) > IPMS/Las Vegas > IPMS/Seattle (can't remember the specific group it was, but CBR > was there) > IPMS/"D.C." > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:01:25 -0400 From: "tsollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book Message-ID: <200204151301.g3FD1LP18399@mail.bcpl.net> Michael: I posted this URL about a year ago but there was little comment. Glad you found it on your own. These are IMHO truly remarkable images. They really bring the era to life. I found the color to be breathtaking. Considering the time frame and other contemporary attempts at color photography, these images are superb (even rivaling WWII Kodachrome). I think the filtration method worked quite well, as the color fidelity (particularly the skin tones) look rather good. Just too bad there are no OT aircraft in the images! Tom ---------- >From: "Michael Kendix" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Old colour pictures off-topic/ was: New Book >Date: Sun, Apr 14, 2002, 2:03 PM > > For some truly amazing old colour pictures, please see: > > http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/ > > These are Russian from pre-WWI Russia and decidedly off topic. However, > they demonstrate that outstandig colour images could be produced prior to > our period of interest. > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4334 **********************