WWI Digest 4303 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Noise from the kit shelf by "Brent Theobald" 2) Re: Durham's Water Putty by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 3) Re: Durham's Water Putty by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Noise from the kit shelf by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 5) New Kit Company - Maybe by "Brent Theobald" 6) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by "Bob Pearson" 7) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by "Steven Perry" 8) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by Larry Marshall 9) OFF TOPIC Wales holiday info request by "Michael Kendix" 10) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 11) Dolphin Flippers by "Steven Perry" 12) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) Green color for the Albatross D.1? by "Bill & Kaja Michaels" 14) Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials by "robert owens" 15) subscribe by "iban" 16) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by "Brad Gossen" 17) Oops- Albatross D.1 Color question by "Bill & Kaja Michaels" 18) Re: Green color for the Albatross D.1? by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 19) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by Tom Plesha 20) Re: New Kit Company - Maybe by Morg17ms@aol.com 21) Re: Oops- Albatross D.1 Color question by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 22) Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials by Michael Fletcher 23) Re: subscribe by "Lee M." 24) Anniston, anyone? by "Dave Burke" 25) Re: Dolphin Flippers by PetersList@aol.com 26) Re: 425/17 by Shane Weier 27) Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials by Jan Vihonen 28) Re: Dolphin Flippers by "Steven Perry" 29) Re: Dolphin Flippers by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 00:49:47 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Noise from the kit shelf Message-ID: Howdy! >Anyone else experience this, or am I as far gone as BvB says I am? Oh yeah, we're nuts! Or as the saying goes... They are just jealous the voices don't speak to them. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:00:34 -0500 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Durham's Water Putty Message-ID: <00FF1413.01F00801.138E644A@aol.com> Thanks Al and RK. I suppose I can find it in most hardware and home improvement stores. I was planning on using plaster of paris for making the cowl molds. From what Robert says, adding this stuff to PoP should be helpful in making molds. Regards, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:14:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Durham's Water Putty Message-ID: <188.5e325e8.29dbb169@aol.com> In a message dated 4/2/02 5:06:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, CoolSpadLuke@aol.com writes: << Thanks Al and RK. I suppose I can find it in most hardware and home improvement stores. I was planning on using plaster of paris for making the cowl molds. From what Robert says, adding this stuff to PoP should be helpful in making molds. Regards, Mike Kavanaugh >> Durhams sets a little harder than plaster- but play around with various ratios. Yep- I get mine at Home Depot and I see it around at other places. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:13:25 -0500 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Noise from the kit shelf Message-ID: <32BC1136.208FB51F.138E644A@aol.com> I'm getting used to the cries from the shelf of "build me! build me!" and they don't bother me too much. It gets to me when I succumb to them and start on a new kit, progressing to the point where I am stymied by some AMS thing. . . . the "build me!" changes to insane laughter and screaming "GOTCHA!!!" :-) Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 01:23:22 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: Howdy guys, First off let me say that I fool around a lot, but this is serious and not a belated April Fools prank. I have been working on an alternative method for producing large models. Models that would never be produced in injected plastic and would be too expensive and heavy in resin. It would also have to be easier than vacuformed kits. Okay, now I have a system and a potential financial backer. What I need to know is if my instincts are correct. Here is what I need to know: What would be a good entry-level model to try a new type of modeling? I am wanting to produce a single engined aircraft. Cheap and easy enough for folks to want to attempt learning a new skill yet interesting enough to want to buy and build. (I can almost hear Matt screaming "SPAD IX!") I've been thinking about the Junkers D.I or Cl.I, Sikorsky S.16, or Rumpler series. I estimate this kit to cost $25-35. The reason I want to produce this small kit is give people a chance to learn the skills they are going to need on the 1/48 Caproni Ca.3, Ca.41, Ilya Muromets, Linke-Hoffman R.I and SSW R.I. These last two may also be offered in 1/72. I am open for other suggestions too. Would ya'll be interested in any of the above kits? The projected price would be for them to be under $75 a piece. Of course, that is liable to change since I haven't actually done more than get estimates for the work. All opinions are appreciated. If nobody is interested I'll just blow the whole thing off. Thanks! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:27:49 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <101779733701@216.152.192.208> > Junkers D.I or Cl.I, BORING .. do the J.I Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:44:41 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <001101c1dab1$20338b40$e5001c18@tampabay.rr.com> > > I have been working on an alternative method for producing large models. > Models that would never be produced in injected plastic and would be too > expensive and heavy in resin. It would also have to be easier than > vacuformed kits. > What would be a good entry-level model to try a new type of modeling? I am > wanting to produce a single engined aircraft. Cheap and easy enough for > folks to want to attempt learning a new skill yet interesting enough to want > to buy and build. (I can almost hear Matt screaming "SPAD IX!") I've been > thinking about the Junkers D.I or Cl.I, Sikorsky S.16, or Rumpler series. I > estimate this kit to cost $25-35. OK, you haven't said anything about the new building methods and the skills required. That is entirely understandable at this point. Each media offers advantages for some subject designs and drawbacks for others. For a starter subject, you need to pick a design that accentuates the advantages of the new methods. If this method is best for large models, then you may have some trouble picking a popular subject that is also large. Maybe you could go to a larger scale. So shooting in the dark, maybe a 1/24 Dornier D.I. Clean lines and no rigging may make it attractive to non WWI builders. Then again 1/24 naval hex may pose a problem. Personally I'd jump on a kit using a new method just to try it out, so go for it. If you have a better way of producing kits of large subjects, it should sell. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:36:21 -0500 From: Larry Marshall To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <20020403014435.PWLL25753.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> > What would be a good entry-level model to try a new type of > modeling? I am wanting to produce a single engined aircraft. Cheap What scale are you talking about here, Brent? It seems that if you want to sell lots of them you need to do a Fokker DVII or Dr I :-) > Matt screaming "SPAD IX!") I've been thinking about the Junkers D.I > or Cl.I, Sikorsky S.16, or Rumpler series. I estimate this kit to > cost $25-35. I'd certainly pay that for an S16. A Sopwith Tabloid would be super as well. > The reason I want to produce this small kit is give people a chance > to learn the skills they are going to need on the 1/48 Caproni > Ca.3, Ca.41, Ilya Muromets, Linke-Hoffman R.I and SSW R.I. These > last two may also be offered in 1/72. I am open for other > suggestions too. These would be "kewl" if it didn't require selling the kid to buy one. Even then..... > Would ya'll be interested in any of the above kits? The projected > price would be for them to be under $75 a piece. Of course, that is Really? That's not bad at all. > All opinions are appreciated. If nobody is interested I'll just > blow the whole thing off. Sure...get us drooling and then change your mind :-) The fact that you're thinking Russian, Italian, etc. is very interesting. Get WWI modeling out of the Fokker/Albatros rut :-) Cheers --- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 01:54:32 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: OFF TOPIC Wales holiday info request Message-ID: Sorry to do this but I have few people I can ask. I am thinking of taking the family to Wales for a week in May. Does anyone on the list have recommendations or experiences staying there. I am considering B&B or a cottage type of accomodation. REPLIES OFF LIST PLEASE. Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:20:02 -0500 From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <7F20EB23.4050F9D1.138E644A@aol.com> It would help to know what medium you are planning on using. I agree with Bob, Junkers J.I would be great. Suggest you look at the datafiles/mini-datafiles for which no 1/48 kit is readily available. OTOH, if you are looking for obscure aircraft that haven't been previously kitted, there's the "Standard J.I" trainer. It would look nice sitting next to the Curtiss Jenny. Of course, some wouldn't consider it a viable OT kit. . . no combat record and very limited interest unless you are into early U.S. aircraft. Trainers were almost all we managed to manufacture. One I would like to do but haven't become interested enough to do the conversion, is the Sopwith Tabloid. Also, a Voisin bomber in 1/48 would be nice. Then too, AFAIK, the Sopwith Salamander hasn't been done in 1/48. A trench strafer would be a welcome change. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. . . if you do it. Regards, Mike Kavanaugh Forget Nieuports. They've been done ad nauseum and Matt would nitpick your Nieuport kit to pieces anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:44:13 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Dolphin Flippers Message-ID: <003301c1dab9$70cd6b40$e5001c18@tampabay.rr.com> Were the wing panels on the Sopwith Dolpin identical to any other Sopwith design? TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 12:40:08 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <006e01c1dab8$dfd684a0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Something in the way of a Brit 2 seater is what I would like to see. Say a Gunbus in 1/48th. Maybe do a tie in with ne of the other producers to use their detail parts/engine too. Bob to do decals for you. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: New Kit Company - Maybe > It would help to know what medium you are planning on using. > > I agree with Bob, Junkers J.I would be great. Suggest you look at the datafiles/mini-datafiles for which no 1/48 kit is readily available. OTOH, if you are looking for obscure aircraft that haven't been previously kitted, there's the "Standard J.I" trainer. It would look nice sitting next to the Curtiss Jenny. Of course, some wouldn't consider it a viable OT kit. . . no combat record and very limited interest unless you are into early U.S. aircraft. Trainers were almost all we managed to manufacture. > > One I would like to do but haven't become interested enough to do the conversion, is the Sopwith Tabloid. Also, a Voisin bomber in 1/48 would be nice. Then too, AFAIK, the Sopwith Salamander hasn't been done in 1/48. A trench strafer would be a welcome change. > > Good luck with whatever you decide to do. . . if you do it. > > Regards, > Mike Kavanaugh > > Forget Nieuports. They've been done ad nauseum and Matt would nitpick your Nieuport kit to pieces anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:01:40 -0500 From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Green color for the Albatross D.1? Message-ID: <3CAA2A44.29143.194DE3C@localhost> I'm just getting stated on my Roden Albatross D.1 kit. I need to decide which color scheme to model before I get too far along. One option is an all green machine, as shown on the box art. I'm wondering-- is the green on the boxtop accurate? The instructions call the color "Matt US Dark Green". Are they referring to a modern color? I primarily use Floquil acrylics-- anyone have a recommendation? TIA, -Bill Bill and Kaja Michaels ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:39:39 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials Message-ID: Hey All, the Pest is back after 4-week hard-drive melt-down hiatus. Mike Fletcher's latest Nieuport profiles (and mighty succulent, they are, too!) show grey shadow shading of Italian Nieuport serials, and Osprey's Nieuport Aces book says red. grey? red? yes? no? maybe...? 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------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C1DA8E.8B8D77C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:12:55 -0800 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <016b01c1dad6$987140a0$f9e3fea9@bradgossen> A.W. FK8 ! Lots of nice, flat, angular surfaces and it's still being ignored in 1/48. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: New Kit Company - Maybe > Something in the way of a Brit 2 seater is what I would like to see. Say a > Gunbus in 1/48th. Maybe do a tie in with ne of the other producers to use > their detail parts/engine too. Bob to do decals for you. > > Cheers > > Ross > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:21 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: New Kit Company - Maybe > > > > It would help to know what medium you are planning on using. > > > > I agree with Bob, Junkers J.I would be great. Suggest you look at the > datafiles/mini-datafiles for which no 1/48 kit is readily available. OTOH, > if you are looking for obscure aircraft that haven't been previously kitted, > there's the "Standard J.I" trainer. It would look nice sitting next to the > Curtiss Jenny. Of course, some wouldn't consider it a viable OT kit. . . no > combat record and very limited interest unless you are into early U.S. > aircraft. Trainers were almost all we managed to manufacture. > > > > One I would like to do but haven't become interested enough to do the > conversion, is the Sopwith Tabloid. Also, a Voisin bomber in 1/48 would be > nice. Then too, AFAIK, the Sopwith Salamander hasn't been done in 1/48. A > trench strafer would be a welcome change. > > > > Good luck with whatever you decide to do. . . if you do it. > > > > Regards, > > Mike Kavanaugh > > > > Forget Nieuports. They've been done ad nauseum and Matt would nitpick > your Nieuport kit to pieces anyway. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:24:56 -0500 From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Oops- Albatross D.1 Color question Message-ID: <3CAA2FB8.11281.1AA29B9@localhost> I made a mistake in my recent question: The roden kit calls for "Matt Light Green", not the dark green I said before. I've been looking at the color schemes fo r this kit, and I also like the Lt Buttner machine from Jasta 2. I have a question about the colors for this plane: My only color reference I have is the July/August 2001 issue of Flying Scale Models, which had a feature article on the D.1 and D.2. The color profiles in the mag show the Lt Buttner D.1 as having a dark green and brown upper surfaces, with a wood colored fuselage. The Roden kit's colors for what appears to be the same machine are dk green and tan, with a wood colored fuselage. The top of the fuselage is also tan, with dense, irregular dk green splotches. So I'm wondering, which is correct? (Or am I looking at two different planes?) Any help would be appreciated. TIA, -BillBill and Kaja Michaels ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:27:40 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Green color for the Albatross D.1? Message-ID: <005201c1dabf$82a45120$236e160a@CSP00> Bill, > I'm just getting stated on my Roden Albatross D.1 kit. I need to > decide which color scheme to model before I get too far along. > One option is an all green machine, as shown on the box art. > > I'm wondering-- is the green on the boxtop accurate? The > instructions call the color "Matt US Dark Green". Are they referring > to a modern color? we went through this a couple of weeks ago - for more than what's below you may search the archives ca. end of February. There's also a thread on the same thing on the Aerodrome forum from the same period. My remarks: 1. The aircraft is the one flown by Prince Friedrich-Karl of Prussia. He was shot down in this aircraft, dying from his wounds a few days later (IIRC, he was actually wounded on the ground). 2. Photos (especially of the aircraft after capture) show - if anything - a *very light* color, most probably a light green. Roden most definitely wrong in this one 3. The green color is determined by a report of von Tutschek in his field letters, where he twice describes the "green Albatros" of Friedrich Karl. 4. There are at least 3 photos showing this aircraft, only two of them showing the wings. Not really clear, but it's probable that the wings were actually still in standard (brown/green upper/ blue lower) camouflage. 5. Note this aircraft had a different coolant water tank. The triangular tank on top of the engine is gone, replaced by a small "water tower" between the engine and the prop. So, in general I'd say: Light green fuselage, mid green/reddish brow upper surfaces, blue lower surfaces. But this can not be 100 % proven. As for the true color tone, it's Dicta Ira anyway... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Plesha To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Kit Company - Maybe Message-ID: <20020403032350.79347.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com> > Hi Brent, > > Maybe in 1/48 the early 1914-5 ignored aircraft of the 2 seat variety? >Later Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Tom Morgan --part1_60.1dad6d51.29dbd05b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:41:05 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oops- Albatross D.1 Color question Message-ID: <005a01c1dac1$625a1a60$236e160a@CSP00> Bill, > I've been looking at the color schemes fo r this kit, and I also like > the Lt Buttner machine from Jasta 2. > > I have a question about the colors for this plane: > snip > So I'm wondering, which is correct? (Or am I looking at two > different planes?) > this aircraft is well documented, being one of the earliest Alb D I's captured (I actually think it was the first one...). I'm not at home at the moment, but I remember that Paul Leaman had a piece on this particular aircraft in an early 80ies Aeroplane Monthly. Too, the famous contemporary "Flight" report is largely based on the assessment of this aircraft. The wing camouflage is usually described as mid green/reddish brown, and someone with access to (for example) the WS Albatros special can definitely give you the "exact" shades... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:08:44 -0500 From: Michael Fletcher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials Message-ID: <3CAA804C.CFF308C8@rogers.com> I had no reliable references to the colours so I did it with what would look good - I figured red shadows would have looked strange and it would have been hard to fade red without it still looking dark on ortho film while not disappearing completely. The dark portion of the serial could conceivably have been red - but that would have been strange in itself as most serials get marked in black in most countries (British outlined block serials being an obvious exception) If you need it I can send a preliminary character set. I am always finding new variations - and it seems that the 17's used a slightly simpler font than the 11's, both of which were related to the font used on the rudders of the French machines. It seems to have been a common period font that has since completely vanished. The best option (AMS aside) would be to draw up all the possible options and choose one that looks good while still being easily readable. Are there any surviving original samples showing the serial? Almost too much to hope for. Mike Fl. robert owens wrote: > > Hey All, the Pest is back after 4-week hard-drive melt-down hiatus. Mike > Fletcher's latest Nieuport profiles (and mighty succulent, they are, too!) > show grey shadow shading of Italian Nieuport serials, and Osprey's Nieuport > Aces book says red. grey? red? yes? no? maybe...? TIA Rob > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:39:45 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org, iban@cenderawasih.net Subject: Re: subscribe Message-ID: <3CAA8791.2BEE3AEE@x25.net> You will never get subscribed with all that "MIME" on your message. It must be completely turned off. The servers will not accept anything else. The servers will only accept plain text and certain words. Do exactl;y as I have it shown and explained.. The address is wwi-request@wwi-models.org leave the subject line blank. In the message itself send only these words...... subscribe wwi (after wwi space enter just your real name then two enters) end Lee M. New Braunfels, TX iban wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C1DA8E.8B8D77C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > subscribe > > ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C1DA8E.8B8D77C0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
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Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:32:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Cc: "'tbittners@sprintmail.com'" Subject: Re: 425/17 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDDFC@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt chants: >>Dave Burke wrote: >>> Just wish the Voisin wasn't sold out - I always liked that plane... >> >>What did I told you last week Matt? He's in! Bwahahaha! ;-) > >Bwahahaha!! My evil plan is working. > >Shane will build more Nieuports...Shane will build more Nieuports... > >Is that working? ;-) > NNNN NN OOOO NN NN NN OOOOOO NN NN NN OO OO NN NN NN OO OO NN NN NN OO OO NN NN NN OOOOOO NN NNNNN OOOO Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 12:04:27 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: shadow shading on Italian Nie serials Message-ID: <3CAAC59B.C48B13B8@helsinki.fi> FWIW there's some info on italian Nieuport serials in the Nieuport Special part 1. If I recall right they had blue and white shading. There is also some sample characters. Jan > I had no reliable references to the colours so I did it with what would > look good - I figured red shadows would have looked strange and it > would have been hard to fade red without it still looking dark on ortho > film while not disappearing completely. The dark portion of the serial > could conceivably have been red - but that would have been strange in > itself as most serials get marked in black in most countries (British > outlined block serials being an obvious exception) > > If you need it I can send a preliminary character set. I am always > finding new variations - and it seems that the 17's used a slightly > simpler font than the 11's, both of which were related to the font used > on the rudders of the French machines. It seems to have been a common > period font that has since completely vanished. > > The best option (AMS aside) would be to draw up all the possible > options and choose one that looks good while still being easily > readable. > > Are there any surviving original samples showing the serial? > Almost too much to hope for. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 05:17:32 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Dolphin Flippers Message-ID: <000901c1daf8$c4f63960$e5001c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Similar to the Camel but longer. Same chord, same ailerons, probably same ribs > Thinking about 1/32 are we? > > Peter L Oh no, had some mild success lately with the St. H method and was thinking of replacing a set of "slightly" thick wings on an old Dolphin kit, in 1/48 ;-) BTW, got that letter off, thanks for the addy. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:33:19 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Dolphin Flippers Message-ID: <009d01c1dafa$f90c5a20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Steve! If you got slightly thicker wings than expected, sand the underside until the wooden core is exposed. If you put the adhesive tape inside right in the leading edge, the upper plastic surface will still hold to the core. Keep sanding until the thickness is right and then CA glue a separate lower plastic surface to the wing made oversized along the wingtips and trailing edges. Once dry and sealed up with glue, trim and sand the trailing edge sharp. I did that some months ago experimenting with an Airfix Spad VII wing, however the core was styrene as well. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Dolphin Flippers > > Similar to the Camel but longer. Same chord, same ailerons, probably same > ribs > > Thinking about 1/32 are we? > > > > Peter L > > Oh no, had some mild success lately with the St. H method and was thinking > of replacing a set of "slightly" thick wings on an old Dolphin kit, in 1/48 > ;-) > > BTW, got that letter off, thanks for the addy. > sp > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4303 **********************