WWI Digest 4257 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: replicating a wood finish by "Mordecai Sheftall" 2) Re: Replicating a wood finish by "Diego Fernetti" 3) RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: Replicating a wood finish by "Steven Perry" 5) Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 6) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 7) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 10) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 11) Ni 27 wing ribbing by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 12) RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish by Crawford Neil 13) RE: Ni 27 wing ribbing by "Diego Fernetti" 14) RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing by PetersList@aol.com 16) Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing by "Lance Krieg" 17) Re: Replicating a wood finish by Crawford Neil 18) snail address by "Diego Fernetti" 19) RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing by tbittners@sprintmail.com 21) New French book by "Pedro N. Soares" 22) RE: New French book by Crawford Neil 23) Re: Replicating a wood - Alb parts by "Brian Nicklas" 24) R: RE: Ni 27 wing ribbing by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 25) Re: Good Joe Award by c.o.goebel@att.net 26) RE: Austrian Locken by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 27) RE: HaZet Radiators by "Diego Fernetti" 28) the adventures of Dave burke by "Diego Fernetti" 29) Re: the adventures of Dave burke by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 30) Re: the adventures of Dave burke by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 31) Re: Replicating a wood - Alb parts by Mark Miller 32) RE: Pfalz pictures by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:49:29 +0900 From: "Mordecai Sheftall" To: Subject: Re: replicating a wood finish Message-ID: <001901c1cb35$2787c900$574f07d3@computer> Fecal Film spray? That's either a very original model technique (and one requiring adequate ventilation, I would think) or a sure sign someone's eating too many bran muffins. Bucky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:25:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: <00e101c1cb42$9f37d140$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve sprayed: > When dry coat with > MicroScale Clear Fecal Film airbrushed. You get that from work? Is it good for stained fuselages? Can you represent the effects of castor oil in/around cockpits with it? D. sorry buddy it was too good to let it pass... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:55:02 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: <013b01c1cb46$b15e96c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Have you put in the wood panels that merge into the fin? You can always carve it directly in wood, replacing the original part. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:59:04 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: <002901c1cb47$43fdaf20$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Steve sprayed: > > When dry coat with > > MicroScale Clear Fecal Film airbrushed. > > You get that from work? > Is it good for stained fuselages? > Can you represent the effects of castor oil in/around cockpits with it? Only on the seat. Inspite of my place of employment, the fact remains that the F key is next to the D key and I cant type worth a mixded liquor suspended solid, so I'll just have to say, "Oh biosolids residuals" and move on. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:10:25 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <005a01c1cb48$d7c6d320$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> http://gallery02.kitparade.com/nieuport17as_1.htm Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:48:25 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <001a01c1cb4e$26dba120$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great build! I don't like the camouflage colours too much, but sure he's an accomplished painter. Look at the Lewis gun picture, the finish of that is superb. Thanks for sharing! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:09 AM Subject: [WWI] Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > http://gallery02.kitparade.com/nieuport17as_1.htm > > Cheers > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:06:49 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <006201c1cb50$b8a492e0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Being red/greem colour blind I really didnt notice the colours of the plane. ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:49 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > Great build! > I don't like the camouflage colours too much, but sure he's an accomplished > painter. Look at the Lewis gun picture, the finish of that is superb. > Thanks for sharing! > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ross Moorhouse > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:09 AM > Subject: [WWI] Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > > > > http://gallery02.kitparade.com/nieuport17as_1.htm > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:08:08 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <00d301c1cb50$e7d67ba0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Quick, answer me! Wich was the colour of Voss triplane cowl? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > Being red/greem colour blind I really didnt notice the colours of the plane. > ;-) > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:11:58 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <006801c1cb51$70b9d160$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Also having the worst typing and spelling skills dosent help either. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > Being red/greem colour blind I really didnt notice the colours of the plane. > ;-) > > Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diego Fernetti" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:49 PM > Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > > > > Great build! > > I don't like the camouflage colours too much, but sure he's an > accomplished > > painter. Look at the Lewis gun picture, the finish of that is superb. > > Thanks for sharing! > > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ross Moorhouse > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:09 AM > > Subject: [WWI] Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > > > > > > > http://gallery02.kitparade.com/nieuport17as_1.htm > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:15:44 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <007201c1cb51$f7934d60$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Well now.. after many years of studing it I know its pink... Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > Quick, answer me! > Wich was the colour of Voss triplane cowl? > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ross Moorhouse > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:05 AM > Subject: [WWI] RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. > > > > Being red/greem colour blind I really didnt notice the colours of the > plane. > > ;-) > > > > Ross > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:44:20 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F05CF@SERVER1> In the Ni.27 both wings' leading edges had their upper part covered with wood, which was applied over the wings' structure before covering the whole complex with fabric. This suggests that ribbing should not show on the leading edges. However: - Ian Stair's Ni.27 scale drawings show ribbing spanning over all the wings' chord; - ribbing is clearly shown as running from leading to trailing edges by at least picture # 66 (on page 31) in the Datafile Special, while other pictures in the same publication suggest the same in a less evident manner. I am puzzled.....What do you think ? TIA ! Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:03:49 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: Trust you to beat me to it, that was exactly what I was going to suggest! /Neil C. > > Have you put in the wood panels that merge into the fin? > > You can always carve it directly in wood, replacing the original part. > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:09:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: <015501c1cb61$de30f060$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hola Alberto! > In the Ni.27 both wings' leading edges had their upper part covered with > wood, which was applied over the wings' structure before covering the whole > complex with fabric. This suggests that ribbing should not show on the > leading edges. > > However: > > - Ian Stair's Ni.27 scale drawings show ribbing spanning over all the wings' > chord; Same as in the Nieuport 28 -boy I'm heavy talking about my 28, ain't it?- but remember that Stair shows the rib tapes on his drawings, not the ribs itselves (at least when he describes covered airframes) The rib tapes goes all the way chordwise, but the surface between them varies on the wood-backed areas. > - ribbing is clearly shown as running from leading to trailing edges by at > least picture # 66 (on page 31) in the Datafile Special, while other > pictures in the same publication suggest the same in a less evident manner. > I am puzzled.....What do you think ? Good question I can't make an opinion without checking a few pictures, but I would dare to say that you may see the different light reflection of the rib tapes and the fabric covering. Can this make sense? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:11:26 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: <015f01c1cb62$21684680$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> It wasn't me, the Voices shouting inside my head told me to write that... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Odp: Re: Replicating a wood finish > Trust you to beat me to it, that was exactly what I was > going to suggest! > /Neil C. > > > > Have you put in the wood panels that merge into the fin? > > > > You can always carve it directly in wood, replacing the original part. > > D. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:14:52 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: <91.19becea4.29c20a5c@aol.com> Alberto, if you look at photo 54 on page 25 you can see the box leading edge in silhouette through the fabric, I wonder if you are looking at the rib tapes rather than the ribs. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:14:50 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: Alberto asks about: "...ribbing spanning over all the wings' chord..." By ribbing I take you to mean rib tapes... I ran into the same phenomenon on the Felixstowe, which also has plywood leading edges on the wing topsides. The tapes ran over this plywood. When the fabric is stitched to the ribs, it is protected by the tapes, which are doped over the stitches, yes? To prevent having an edge, the tapes run over the plywood portion, held in place by the dope. By the way, I looked into your question about the cowl retaining strap, and can see that there WAS a join in the middle, though the tension was created, as I described yesterday, by the buckle arrangement. Relevant pictures 95,96 on page 40 of Nieuport Fighters Vol. I. Pages 24 and 29 of the N.28 Datafile show the arrangement on that later plane, too, and confirm the buckle tightener. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:16:42 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Replicating a wood finish Message-ID: Despite Steves little mistake, what he was actually saying was ultra-true. MicroScale Clear Decal Film is wonderful stuff, I don't use it often, but every time I do, I'm so glad somebody invented it. Often called decal-saver, that is exactly what it is. Never tried spraying it, what do use as a thinner? /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:19:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: snail address Message-ID: <019701c1cb63$5219ade0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Would anyone with their addres book at hand please send me OFFLIST to dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar the snail mail addrss of Bob Pearson. Sorry for the request but now that Bob is in Seattle I can't contact him directly. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:25:26 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Nice looking Nie17 at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <01c601c1cb64$1609e580$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Then the rumours about him were true? ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse > Well now.. after many years of studing it I know its pink... > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:25:38 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: <20020314142538.E77B8468E9@eclipse.qis.net> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:16:34 -0500 (EST), PetersList@aol.com wrote: >Alberto, if you look at photo 54 on page 25 you can see the box leading edge >in silhouette through the fabric, I wonder if you are looking at the rib >tapes rather than the ribs. There's also an excellent photo in the Avions Guynemer book with a late Nieuport wing standing on its leading edge. This is the best photo - IMHO - that shows just what this leading edge looked like. While it was a little overdone, HR actually got this area (only?) right. Matt Bittner looking forward to getting those Choroszy Nieuports :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:15:55 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New French book Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301638CD4@TUFAO> Gang, just received a leaflet from Ardhan. There's a new promising book out there: Les Aeronefs de l'Aviation Maritime (1910-1942) by Lucien Morareau. (Those familiar with the previous ARDHAN book on Frech aircraft of the Great War will remember his name as one of the authors. Quoting from the leaflet: This book lists, describes and gives the Technical specifications and a short historical note for each of the 250 aircraft types used by the French Navy between 1910 and 1942. 430 photos (most of them never published before), 35 colour profiles, 140 line drawings, several annexes and an aicraft index. Now for the bad news: 60Euro + 5 Euro (post) Don't know if the postage price is only for France or worldwide. Well father's day is coming around.... Mama, girls, wanna make papa happy? HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:42:37 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New French book Message-ID: OOOH, this is going to be difficult! 65Euros, but OTOH maybe some new Spad 14 photos! /Neil (shaking his head and mentally trying to work out where to find the cash) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:43:34 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Replicating a wood - Alb parts Message-ID: > D.Va construction > Vertical & horizontal fin (stabilizers) = wood > Vertical & horizontal flying surfaces (elevator & rudder) = fabric covered metal tube >>Brian - are you sure? I guess I'm not (attach red face here) Closer inspection, page 76 of Mikesh book. Horizontal fins = Fabric covered wooden ribs & formers. Guess I's been thinking wooden frame, wood veneer cover, just like the vertical. Sorry for the heart attack Mark. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:30:05 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: RE: Ni 27 wing ribbing Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F05D1@SERVER1> Diego, Peter, Lance and Matt (in reply order): thanks a lot for your prompt replies, which confirm just what I thought: rib tapes, not ribsthemselves, are visible on leading edges. Now I am sure of this ! Lance: thanks for the additional comments about the cowling retaining strap (got right this time !). Thanks to you all, Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego Fernetti Inviato: giovedì 14 marzo 2002 15.10 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] RE: Ni 27 wing ribbing Hola Alberto! > In the Ni.27 both wings' leading edges had their upper part covered with > wood, which was applied over the wings' structure before covering the whole > complex with fabric. This suggests that ribbing should not show on the > leading edges. > > However: > > - Ian Stair's Ni.27 scale drawings show ribbing spanning over all the wings' > chord; Same as in the Nieuport 28 -boy I'm heavy talking about my 28, ain't it?- but remember that Stair shows the rib tapes on his drawings, not the ribs itselves (at least when he describes covered airframes) The rib tapes goes all the way chordwise, but the surface between them varies on the wood-backed areas. > - ribbing is clearly shown as running from leading to trailing edges by at > least picture # 66 (on page 31) in the Datafile Special, while other > pictures in the same publication suggest the same in a less evident manner. > I am puzzled.....What do you think ? Good question I can't make an opinion without checking a few pictures, but I would dare to say that you may see the different light reflection of the rib tapes and the fabric covering. Can this make sense? D. --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:48:20 +0000 From: c.o.goebel@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Good Joe Award Message-ID: <20020314144821.GTXL3679.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Greetings! You're very welcome. Always nice to meet a fellow listee and no trip to Seattle is complete without a trip to the Museum of Flight. Saturday I was also able to meet listee Bob Pearson who along with Chris, was manning the Internet Modeler table at the IPMS show. I obtained a copy of his colour profiles cd and spent a good part of my workday yesterday perusing it for possible color schemes for my unbuilt stash. Most enjoyable. Craig Goebel > A belated Good Joe award goes to Chris, who despite suffering a > devastating surface strike on his motor pool by the USN during the first > days of this month, (see Chris for tales of drunken sailors), managed to > track down another list member (who's name escapes me and jointly shares > the award) in the Seattle area with undamaged transport. Chris and > fellow list member schlepped yours truly to the premier plastic pusher > who graciously relieved me of a few $, to the Museum of flight and thence > back to the hotel. A splendid time was had by all except the USN. > > Thanks again Chris & ?. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:02:46 -0600 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Austrian Locken Message-ID: <5F4636CE02C4D511B0D600065B04EA0902B9DADF@ITCREX002.tarrantcounty.com> Michael wrote: "Marc: Take a look at the FMP HB-D.I book on page 34. The Locken look fairly light on a darkish surface." I don't have the FMP HB-D book. That's why I was asking the list, hoping someone could save me the $$. I'm one of those odd ones who doesn't think it is a good idea to buy a $25 book to build an $8 kit. Is there any discussion in this book about the Locken camo used on the Starstrutter? How about pictures of other Starstutter wings. The photos in the new Osprey book on Austor-Hungarian aces show the CDL to be very light. But there is a profile of a medium green Fokker E-III, which indicates there may be some photographic evidence of a dark CDL. Michael also wrote: "it's your model, so Dicta Ira." True, I know I'm not known for toeing the generally held list concensus (see my Fokker D VI and my second Voss triplane) but for some reason, I'd like to get this as right as I can. Rory wrote: "Didn't Mr. Merrill have a deckel sheet of this out, calling it the 'Brumowski Distrbution?" That's the sheet I have. What is interesting is that the Locken camo for all the Albatrosen is applied on a dark green background, while the Locken for the Starstruter is printed on a clear background. Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:07:43 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: HaZet Radiators Message-ID: <025401c1cb69$fe3e87c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Peter! This made me spend some toughts when I made the Taube radiators. I found a swiss chocolate brand (I guess it was Lindt) that come wrapped in aluminium foil finely engraved in paralell lines. I peeled off hte backing paper and glued a section wrapping it to a suitable sized styrene strip. The "fronts" looks odd, but in 1/72 I guess that they can be spared of other details. Cut the styrene strips in the lenghts required (about 1cm) and mount over stretched sprue "pipes". As the aluminium foil is too bright, it can be washed up with some dilluted black enamel to make the detail stand out. In my model I used the Hazets provided in the kit, that have "airfoil sections"! I just detailed them putting decal stripes cut from the excellent radiator decals from Rosemont (check http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Fernetti/German/taubeparts.jpg ). D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: [WWI] HaZet Radiators > I asked this question about a year ago but got no response and I wonder if > any of the new blood can help. Does anyone have suggestions on how to model > the HaZet radiators common on German two-seaters? > > cheers > > Peter L > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:15:24 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Cc: "David Burke" Subject: the adventures of Dave burke Message-ID: <027001c1cb6b$10e273e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Got news from Dave Burke, our list rough rider... He's having fun, as always, and sends greeting to the bunch. If anyone wants to see pictures of his new hairdo and one of his acquaintances just request copies to me offlist! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:21:43 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the adventures of Dave burke Message-ID: This I gotta see!! Send 'em!! John "Diego Fernetti" o.gov.ar> cc: Sent by: Subject: [WWI] the adventures of Dave burke wwi@wwi-models.o rg 03/14/2002 10:16 AM Please respond to wwi Got news from Dave Burke, our list rough rider... He's having fun, as always, and sends greeting to the bunch. If anyone wants to see pictures of his new hairdo and one of his acquaintances just request copies to me offlist! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:22:12 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: the adventures of Dave burke Message-ID: OOOOOOPS!!! Sorry!! Meant for D!!! John ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 2002 07:58:13 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Replicating a wood - Alb parts Message-ID: <20020314155813.14518.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Thu, 14 March 2002, "Brian Nicklas" wrote: > >>Brian - are you sure? > > I guess I'm not (attach red face here) > Closer inspection, page 76 of Mikesh book. > Horizontal fins = Fabric covered wooden ribs & formers. > Guess I's been thinking wooden frame, wood veneer cover, just like the > vertical. > Sorry for the heart attack Mark. > Brian Brian No problem - I just over-reacted (insert big sigh of relief) I figured you were right because it would make sense that they would treat the horizontal stab in the same manner as the vertical. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:29:38 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Pfalz pictures Message-ID: <041501c1cb75$6f8e6660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Peter! > what else is different? Someone has answered this much beeter than I could. About the interior colour, there is a belief that says that it must be light blue/grey as the Pfalz XII shown in the WW1 modelling page. It makes sense, but looks not as cool as the varnished wood option. Take your choice, for no one knows for sure (I think) > Sorry to hear about the Fokker 7 being a replica. Bummer! Yes, but you'll se so nice things there that you'll forgive them. Don't miss the mannequin with WW1 flight suit and a real Spandau machine gun! D. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4257 **********************