WWI Digest 4252
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: new web page
by c.o.goebel@att.net
2) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
by "David C. Fletcher"
3) Re: new web page
by KarrArt@aol.com
4) Re: Ardpol Resin query
by Paul Thompson
5) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no go...
by PetersList@aol.com
6) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by "Lance Krieg"
7) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by "Ross Moorhouse"
8) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
by "Lee M."
9) RE: Pfalz pictures
by "Peter Ecos"
10) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
11) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by "Steven Perry"
12) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no & New
by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
13) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
14) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
by Morg17ms@aol.com
15) New images
by "Matt Bittner"
16) seats and belts
by "Marcio Antonio Campos"
17) Re: seats and belts
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
18) Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com
19) Re: Italian roundels colour
by "Bill & Kaja Michaels"
20) Best day! today!! New kits
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
21) Re: Best day! today!! New kits/again
by Tom Plesha
22) Re: Best day! today!! New kits
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
23) Re: Best day! today!! New kits Dornier V.1
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
24) Re: Best day! today!! New kits
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
25) Re: Best day! today!! New kits Dornier V.1
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
26) ot 1942 German bomber colors help, etc.
by Rory Goodwin
27) RE: Pfalz pictures
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
28) Re: New Albatrso D V and Rol CIIa by Eduard -first
by Rory Goodwin
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:30:46 +0000
From: c.o.goebel@att.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: new web page
Message-ID: <20020312213047.RUKG19351.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Greetings,
Nice work! I too, have added it to my favorites!
Craig
> Hi
> Dave Johnson, web master of the "pilots and Planes" website asked me a couple of
> weeks ago if he could present my work.
> I said OK, and this is what he did:
> http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/mark-miller/MarkMiller-1.htm
>
> almost everything is on Allan's site or the Cookup but there are a couple of
> things that haven't appeared elsewhere.
>
> Thanks Dave :-)
> Mark
>
>
> Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
> http://www.shopping.altavista.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:37:19 -0800
From: "David C. Fletcher"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
Message-ID: <00aa01c1ca0e$16aa58a0$af884318@cc.shawcable.net>
Lee writes>>Have you sent your comments?????<<
I'll go with Diego et al on this one. There are up-market kits for the true
afficionado and if "bottom-end" kits introduce new people to the hobby, then
that is all to the good. I built the abysmal Aurora WWII monoplanes in my
youth and I went from there to 850 or so unbuilt kits of higher quality...
Let Revell put out the old stuff, sell a bunch and they may be inspired to
reissue the Gotha G.V so I can finally get a replacement top wing ;-)
Dave Fletcher
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:46:27 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: new web page
Message-ID: <9e.2348b115.29bfd133@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/12/02 12:35:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,
albatros1212@altavista.com writes:
<< Hi
Dave Johnson, web master of the "pilots and Planes" website asked me a
couple of weeks ago if he could present my work.
I said OK, and this is what he did:
http://pilots-n-planes-ww1.com/mark-miller/MarkMiller-1.htm
almost everything is on Allan's site or the Cookup but there are a couple of
things that haven't appeared elsewhere.
Thanks Dave :-)
Mark >>
Mark's stuff makes me sick. His Albatros series is already a classic in what
passes for my mind. There's no better reference for modeling the bird than
his disgustingly brilliant depictions.
Robert (hypnotized by the revolving .mpg on the above mentioned site.....)
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:49:27 +0100
From: Paul Thompson
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Ardpol Resin query
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312224438.00a0c110@pop.xs4all.nl>
Brian,
I have the Halberstadt Cl IV, and the DH9. Both are excellent kits, the
best resins I've come across in 1/72nd. Struts and control horns could
stand replacing, and there are a few (mostly easily fixable) pinholes in my
samples, but otherwise as close to shake the box as you''ll get, I think.
I've just finished the DH9, so I know that it's not just appearances in the
box. Also, Matt Bittner raves about them, so they must be okay :)
HTH Paul.
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:24:10 EST
From: PetersList@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no go...
Message-ID: <121.d606000.29bfda0a@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/03/02 21:26:12 GMT Standard Time,
rossmoor@bigpond.net.au writes:
<< or one thing we are but a very very tiny voice with in the model making
community, so by us all not buying the SE5a, it would not hurt Revell one
bit. I bet there are more people out there that buy OT kits than all of us
on this list put together.
Also it wouldnt give us a good name with producers if we are publicly
organising a boycott. Which is the last thing we want if we want new kits
that are OT.
I think it would be a good idea if people that dont like the Revell OT
releases wrote to them and expressed this in a very polite and contrustive
way. This might in fact encouage Revell to maybe do more OT of better
quality.
We are in a niche market and the last thing we want is to make that market
even smaller. You might even find that the 2 OT from Revell might get more
people interested in OT thus their buying voice comes our way and this then
helps produces to bring out more kits.
>>
I could not agree more. For something like 30 years WWI releases were scarce
and we buisied ourselves making and remaking the available kits over and over
again, hopefuly improving with each build. Now we are at a point where I
don't beleive we ever had it better. Eduard, Pegasus/BM, Roden, Mac and
Aeroclub must shove out a couple of dozen new kits a year between them and
then there are all the resin manufacturers. No doubt Revell are re-releasing
these old kits in response to this burgeoning interest and that can only be a
good thing. I hope they sell millions of them and are encouraged enough to
give us some new toolings in due course.
cheers
Peter L
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:37:49 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg"
To:
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID:
Peter opines about:
"... burgeoning interest and that can only be a good thing.
I hope they [Revell] sell millions of them..."
Hear, hear. I hope so too.
Lance
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:58:18 +1100
From: "Ross Moorhouse"
To:
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID: <001701c1ca19$66ab9ac0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au>
Whos knows maybe one day we will see Revell re-release their 1/72nd DH2 and
Fokker E.III. Then I will be right back in my bothood days.
If they did do the DH2 again I would buy one and frame the kit. It was my
fav as a kid.
We sure are in the Golden Years of OT kits. Lets not be the ones that ruins
this.
What might help us is if we have say a survey/poll on the WWI site that
visters can fill in and submit. It could ask questions like whats your fav
scale. (This ismt to start a scale war). Could alsso ask whats your fav
type, i.e. Fighetrs/Scouts or 2 seaters or Bombers. Whats your fav country.
etc etc .. then this could be sent to some of the producers, thus giving
them idea of what we would like. This is also seen as a postive support from
us and only helps improve or relationship with producers.
Last year on Missing Lynx forum there was a call tp boycott buying Dragon
1/35th German figure kits. Dragon do far more German figure kits than
anything else. Many people said they would not buy the figures anymore. But
it hasnt stopped Dragon from putting out more in fact. They are starting to
do more USA figures too. But they make their money from the GI-Joe type
dolls. They make heaps from this market.
Cheers
Ross
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Krieg"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: [WWI] Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
> Peter opines about:
>
> "... burgeoning interest and that can only be a good thing.
> I hope they [Revell] sell millions of them..."
>
> Hear, hear. I hope so too.
>
> Lance
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:59:28 -0600
From: "Lee M."
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
Message-ID: <3C8E8850.2417128A@x25.net>
John, I have never been into kit bashing to any great degree. But I do
write letters to those responsible for the messes they try to sell.
I spoke out to a group that mademodels of WW II stuff with the wheels
all moulded into the underside of the wings.
They let me know those were made for children and I let them know that
"Fathers of those choldren are the ones that supply the money for the
children and since we had a say about it they might sell very few
models".
They had made wonderful models prior to that. Two years later they were
out of business. You may not be old enough to recall Hawk Models, but,
they did a very good job for a number of years. High-tech and classy in
the very low tech days.
I am sure I was not the only one that decided the kids could have a
better quality kit to make.
I always write the company first and "bitch openly" later.
(I clipped for brevity of transmission only.)
Lee M.
John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote:
>
> Lee writes>>Have you sent your comments?????<<
>
> Hi Lee,
> Actually I have been deciding what I am going to say...I have read the
> comments that my first post elicited and they were all very interesting and
> made good points...I disagree with Diego and SP on this in that like the
> rest of the comments, I have no intention of buying these rehashes
> again...Like most of us, I already have a couple of incarnations of these
> kits and see absolutely no reason to buy them again...I think that buying
> these is rewarding Revell AG for their non-efforts...I will be telling them
> so..Many of us bashed the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV, I feel justifiably so ,because
> of the warped wings/poor quality of the initial release...At least it is a
> new subject and therefore a commendable effort...I will probably buy one
> when they go on sale...
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:03:47 -0600
From: "Peter Ecos"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Pfalz pictures
Message-ID:
Hi Diego,
Yes, I knew of the different versions, but other than the length of the
lower wing and in some cases the engine what else is different?
The decal subjects on the kit are pretty well known (Voss's) so no surprises
there. The kit seems to fit nicely, except the engine doesn't line up with
the prop shaft, but that could be my clumsy dry-fittin.
Sorry to hear about the Fokker 7 being a replica. Bummer!
ps what was Rick E. going to say?
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:08:57 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID:
Both Peters make good points.
Exactly why any comments we make should be constuctive...I agree, boycott
was probably too strong a thing to suggest...We have never had it so good..
We should communicate to major producers, like Revell, who have the
resources to do new tools, what we want...
Regards,
John
"Lance Krieg"
rus.com> cc:
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03/12/2002 05:39
PM
Please respond
to wwi
Peter opines about:
"... burgeoning interest and that can only be a good thing.
I hope they [Revell] sell millions of them..."
Hear, hear. I hope so too.
Lance
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:19:06 -0500
From: "Steven Perry"
To:
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID: <002101c1ca1c$4e6c4ce0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com>
----- > If they did do the DH2 again I would buy one and frame the kit. It
was my
> fav as a kid.
Many active modelers of ot subjects remember the old Aurora kits and some of
them will buy these kits for nostalgic reasons. The re releases of the old
box scale Monogram kits did well on that basis. Perhaps Revell figures to do
the same. Have to be different boxes though. I'll miss the burning lime
green D.VII ;-)
Who knows some of those trips down memory lane may end up in a model and
renewed interest in OT modeling. Maybe even a new listmember or two to enjoy
this hobby with us.
I have an Aurora D.VII and a Monogram SE.5a, but I'll be buying a few of the
new releases to pass out to kids. Gotta have memories of having fun with an
OT model as a kid in order to come back to it later.
sp
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:21:09 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no & New
Message-ID:
I agree with what Ross had to say also...I sent an email off to Revell AG
explaining why I wouldn't purchase these 2 kits as well as explaining what
I would purchase...I didn't want to attach the post because it was a little
lengthy because I explained what I felt beginners as well as folks like us
would look for...I agree with Lee; a reissue such as the DML(which I
explained was a rumor prior to release) kit or a new tool, I feel, has more
of a chance of attracting newbies as well as us to a kit than a 50-year old
mold would...They just "look" better..I was positive and asked if they
would be reissuing some of the ones we haven't seen in quite a while like
te DH 2, Sopwith Triplane, etc....
Just got package(I'm home this week recovering from surgery..) containing
the new Roden Albatros D.I and the new Roden D.VII, late Albatros... I'm
going to drool over them a while and I'll post a "2cents worth" later...
By the way, any one comtemplating an Ardpol kit, do it!!!!! I have the DFW
C.V, D.H.9 and the Halberstadt CL.IV and they are gems!!! In fact I'll be
ordering the rest of the OT's shortly....
Regards,
John
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:23:42 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID:
sp write>>I have an Aurora D.VII and a Monogram SE.5a, but I'll be buying a
few of the
new releases to pass out to kids. Gotta have memories of having fun with an
OT model as a kid in order to come back to it later.
sp<<
Great idea!! I'm trying something similar in the local high school...A
science teacher I know is having me come in and talk to their Tech Club
about the hobby...I'll think I'll bring a few kits with me to give
out...Maybe there is a use for these reissues after all!!!
Regards,
John
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:01:30 EST
From: Morg17ms@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII
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Thanks to all those who answered my query re the above kits. With over 90
kits stacked (hidden) around my apartment I'll pass on those two for now.
Tom Morgan
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Thanks to all those who answered my query re the above kits. With over 90 kits stacked (hidden) around my apartment I'll pass on those two for now.
Tom Morgan
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:10:22 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner"
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: New images
Message-ID:
Just uploaded "real" images of the Halberstadt Cl.IV and the
Fokker E.III. Thanks, guys!!
Matt Bittner
WW1 Modeling Page
Assistant Editor
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:08:29 -0300
From: "Marcio Antonio Campos"
To:
Subject: seats and belts
Message-ID: <002701c1ca33$f9d7d920$bdafe2c8@computador>
Folks,
My friend Sidney Pagotto (I told you about him) has doubts on his Albatros
D.III. Let's help him...
1 - is the seat black or leather color? (a bigger question, what was the
color for German seats? Roden instructions always say leather, Eduard
instructions always say black)
2 - are the seatbelts made of leather or cotton? Which is the best color for
it? My Eduard kit asks them to be painted tan (Humbrol 94).
3 - were there seatbelts also over the pilot's shoulders? (My Eduard D.V
profipack has them, but I don't know if D.III was the same way)
Sidney already says thanks and sends greetings from Rio Claro!
All the best from Brazil
Marcio, at home
np: Atlanta Thrashers' match against Tampa Bay Lightning.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:51:13 +0800
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: seats and belts
Message-ID: <000b01c1ca39$f53f5680$236e160a@CSP00>
Marcio,
while it is always difficult to "generalize" on these subjects, there are
certain standards which - while maybe not always maintained - are true for
the greatest part of the aircraft in question:
> 1 - is the seat black or leather color? (a bigger question, what was the
> color for German seats? Roden instructions always say leather, Eduard
> instructions always say black)
>
German seats were "nearly always" black on the inside. There *were*
variations on the theme (including lozenge covering of the seat), but from
personal observation, more than 90 % of the seats of late war aircraft (1917
and later) had the black covering. So Eduard got it right here.
> 2 - are the seatbelts made of leather or cotton? Which is the best color
for
> it? My Eduard kit asks them to be painted tan (Humbrol 94).
>
Usually cloth was used - most of the seatbelts I've seen are light in color,
described as off-white. But there *were* variations in that, including the
use of leather. A good number of field modifications were used as well.
IIRC, Windsock ran a series of color aircraft detail shots some years ago,
covering mainly instruments, but also seatbelts etc, and the variations were
enormous. However, I'm not at home at this moment, and therefore am not sure
about what was the "standard" for the D III.
Volker
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:42:42 EST
From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com
To:
Subject: Re: Revell AG's 1:48 SE5a & D.VII.. Public boycotts a no
Message-ID: <80.18e97197.29c024b2@aol.com>
In a message dated Tue, 12 Mar 2002 6:20:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Steven Perry" writes:
>
> I have an Aurora D.VII and a Monogram SE.5a, but I'll be buying a few of the
> new releases to pass out to kids. Gotta have memories of having fun with an
> OT model as a kid in order to come back to it later.
Too right, Steve. I have nine of the Monogram D.VIIs and one SE.5a. Once I thought I would do a Jasta-type line-up with the D.VIIs without getting too much into AMS, but now doubt it. These are ideal for the youngsters that can still be excited by the boxart and want to build one. And, that's where mine are going. . . no listees need apply!
Regards,
Mike Kavanaugh
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:48:59 -0500
From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels"
To:
Subject: Re: Italian roundels colour
Message-ID: <3C8E85DB.10336.217106@localhost>
Alberto,
Thank you for your help! I think I'll keep the medium green I've already painted,
and see if I can find some better decals.
Thanks again!
-Bill
> I have had the chance to inspect a few original WW1 samples carrying Italian
> national colours.
> They show different flag greens, from dark greens to light and bright greens
> (which are the less frequent, however). So I suppose the original colours
> could really vary, depending on the paint manufacturer for example.
>
> Personally, I would discard both dark and light tones, while a medium bright
> green can be considered a good choice, at least in my view....
>
> Ciao,
>
> Alberto Casirati
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:45:44 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Best day! today!! New kits
Message-ID: <11c.dbbd925.29c02568@aol.com>
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Greetings fellow listee's. Well, on a very happy note for me, today is my
birthday and I had a most wonderful day with my girls, My youngest daughter
Melissa took her old dad to see "Blackhawk down" I found out she likes one of
the stars during the movie, hey she's 20 so she's a bit star struck.
Afterwards we had a nice Chinese dinner and then a nice birthday party after
dinner where besides having some great Carrot cake & ice-cream I got two
great OT movies from my bride of 33 years, Hells Angles & Wings, what can I
say, she a great gal, I think I'm finally getting her trained!!! And then to
top it off, today I finally received my package from Classic Planes that I
ordered back in Oct. same as Karen did. She and I were both wondering when
our boxes from Classic would arrive, so have heart Karen it should be real
soon for you I think. My box has 3 Luedemann Taube kits, the
Jeannin-Steahltaube, the Etrich-Rumpler Taube and the Gotha Taube these are
very well cast and have flight surfaces so thin that you can see light
through them, I only hope I do them justice. I also received a Macchi M.9, a
Dornier V.1, a Sablatning SF.2 and the best yet the new Caproni Ca.3, this
kit even has the rear machine gun cage cast in resin and looks at first
glance to be pretty good. I cannot recommend these kits enough as far as
casting and quality, as for dimensions that will be seen when I get them on
the bench.
Oh what a great day, I wish everyone such a sweet day as I have
had. Now to top it off I'm going to finish the day reading the posts from the
list, just like icing on the cake, good stuff.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Greetings fellow listee's. Well, on a very happy note for me, today is my birthday and I had a most wonderful day with my girls, My youngest daughter Melissa took her old dad to see "Blackhawk down" I found out she likes one of the stars during the movie, hey she's 20 so she's a bit star struck. Afterwards we had a nice Chinese dinner and then a nice birthday party after dinner where besides having some great Carrot cake & ice-cream I got two great OT movies from my bride of 33 years, Hells Angles & Wings, what can I say, she a great gal, I think I'm finally getting her trained!!! And then to top it off, today I finally received my package from Classic Planes that I ordered back in Oct. same as Karen did. She and I were both wondering when our boxes from Classic would arrive, so have heart Karen it should be real soon for you I think. My box has 3 Luedemann Taube kits,
the Jeannin-Steahltaube, the Etrich-Rumpler Taube and the Gotha Taube these are very well cast and have flight surfaces so thin that you can see light through them, I only hope I do them justice. I also received a Macchi M.9, a Dornier V.1, a Sablatning SF.2 and the best yet the new Caproni Ca.3, this kit even has the rear machine gun cage cast in resin and looks at first glance to be pretty good. I cannot recommend these kits enough as far as casting and quality, as for dimensions that will be seen when I get them on the bench.
Oh what a great day, I wish everyone such a sweet day as I have had. Now to top it off I'm going to finish the day reading the posts from the list, just like icing on the cake, good stuff.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:54:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Plesha
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Best day! today!! New kits/again
Message-ID: <20020313035420.11782.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com>
Happy Birthday Jon!!!!!!!!
Great gifts and family, appreciate and enjoy both the
family and the gifts.
Later
Tom
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:14:23 +0800
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Best day! today!! New kits
Message-ID: <001d01c1ca45$8f406200$236e160a@CSP00>
Jon,
Happy Birthday from the jungles of Malaysia as well.
Sounds really like a great birthday - good timing from Detlef Schorsch as
well.
Oh yes: There is a Dornier *V 1* included? I was not aware that this kit is
out yet - I think it must have been in the making for at least 10 years. How
does that one look like?
Volker
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:45:54 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Best day! today!! New kits Dornier V.1
Message-ID: <153.a5936ea.29c03382@aol.com>
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In a message dated 3/12/2002 11:14:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
haeusler@tm.net.my writes:
> Oh yes: There is a Dornier *V 1* included? I was not aware that this kit is
> out yet - I think it must have been in the making for at least 10 years.
> How
> does that one look like?
>
Hello Volker, Thanks for the birthday greetings. As for the Dornier V.1 I had
expected it to be his old Vacuform but too my surprise it is a nicely done
Resin kit of about 32 pieces plus 2 lengths of strut material. Everything
looks pretty good according to the 3 view Ian Stairs drawing supplied, no pin
holes that I could find, the Nacelle is in two halves split vertically down
the center lengthwise, the engine will need to be replaced as it has no
crankcase and that will show on this plane. I will surely need to see some
kind of references on this plane as there are parts that go God only knows
where. Not to bad at Dm 27.95. Any ideas as to references and markings? BTW,
I'm flying the new IL-2 Stormovik Flight sim and it is the best thing I have
ever flown, totally outstanding, anything new out there lately? Sorry for
that bit of ot people.
Best Regards,
Jon
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In a message dated 3/12/2002 11:14:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, haeusler@tm.net.my writes:
Oh yes: There is a Dornier *V 1* included? I was not aware that this kit is
out yet - I think it must have been in the making for at least 10 years. How
does that one look like?
Hello Volker, Thanks for the birthday greetings. As for the Dornier V.1 I had expected it to be his old Vacuform but too my surprise it is a nicely done Resin kit of about 32 pieces plus 2 lengths of strut material. Everything looks pretty good according to the 3 view Ian Stairs drawing supplied, no pin holes that I could find, the Nacelle is in two halves split vertically down the center lengthwise, the engine will need to be replaced as it has no crankcase and that will show on this plane. I will surely need to see some kind of references on this plane as there are parts that go God only knows where. Not to bad at Dm 27.95. Any ideas as to references and markings? BTW, I'm flying the new IL-2 Stormovik Flight sim and it is the best thing I have ever flown, totally outstanding, anything new out there lately? Sorry for that bit of ot people.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:50:00 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Best day! today!! New kits
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Hello again, I just noticed on Detlefs 3 view drawing of the Dornier V.1 that
he wrote me a message saying that this was his first shot of his new resin as
he has stopped the vacuform kit.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Hello again, I just noticed on Detlefs 3 view drawing of the Dornier V.1 that he wrote me a message saying that this was his first shot of his new resin as he has stopped the vacuform kit.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:22:24 +0800
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Best day! today!! New kits Dornier V.1
Message-ID: <003b01c1ca4f$0f4cc0c0$236e160a@CSP00>
Hi Jon
> Hello Volker, Thanks for the birthday greetings. As for the Dornier V.1 I
had
> expected it to be his old Vacuform but too my surprise it is a nicely done
> Resin kit of about 32 pieces plus 2 lengths of strut material.
Actually, the vacform was never released according to Detlef himself (for
fear of someone directly copying it into resin).
However, he had the masters ready for years (had them in his shop) - I
guess Thomas Luedemann now used them for the resin
> crankcase and that will show on this plane. I will surely need to see some
> kind of references on this plane as there are parts that go God only knows
> where. Not to bad at Dm 27.95. Any ideas as to references and markings?
There are two good referencess for the Dornier V 1 I'm aware of:
Cross&Cockade (International) vol 12 no 3: "Development of Dornier Land
Planes" by Gerard Terry (not sure whether the name is completely correct
and an article on the V 1 in an older WW I Aero (again from memory only:
around no 120)
I'll send you an offlist mail for that in the evening (on this side of the
world).
When you find the time (tomorrow or so), tell us about the Caproni! I think
that is the most eagerly anticipated kit from my side for years...
Volker
(who unfortunately has not found any proper reason for a business trip back
to Germany for 5 months - no chance to see the Modellbaustudio. These *are*
bad times)
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:32:47 -0800
From: Rory Goodwin
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: ot 1942 German bomber colors help, etc.
Message-ID: <3C8EE47F.B6F623DE@earthlink.net>
Sorry for the ot post, but I'm bashing an Italeri Do-217M (N-1 + K-1 =
E-2/3/4/5 & M-1 and need to know what color to paint the cockpit
interior (02 as the instructions suggest, or 66 as I supect?). Also,
what's a good price for Lindberg's Bunyon-scale Blue Devil destroyer
these days? Please reply offlist. TIA, etc.
Yours,
Darius (the heretic)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:44:12 +0800
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?=
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Pfalz pictures
Message-ID: <006201c1ca52$1b6ad600$236e160a@CSP00>
Peter,
> Hi Diego,
>
> Yes, I knew of the different versions, but other than the length of the
> lower wing and in some cases the engine what else is different?
>
Beside the lower wing tip and the engine the main differences would be the
gun position (in the fuselage for the D III, above it for the D IIIa) and
the tailplane (greater chord for the D IIIa). Plus for purists: Some
differnece in the metal strut endplates (more pointed for later D IIIa,
rounder for D III and early D IIIa).
> The decal subjects on the kit are pretty well known (Voss's) so no
surprises
> there.
Just one remark here: The colors for the Voss Pfalz are somewhat uncertain
as well:
First, there is still some uncertainty whether this aircraft was really
flown by Voss (IIRC, it's based on a rather unclear inscription on the only
fuzzy photo existing of the plane in that stage)
Second, there's again *speculation* that this aircraft is the same later
flown by Vzfw. Hecht and captured by the British - there are some
similarities in the marking, but there are differences as well (again from
memory only, beside the green tail also differences in the amount of yellow
on the nose). Either some repainting took place, or these were actually two
different aircraft
Michael Kendix had a nice article on this aircraft in it's final form (with
RFC roundels) in an IM last year (based on the MAC 72 scale kit).
Volker
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:12:47 -0800
From: Rory Goodwin
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New Albatrso D V and Rol CIIa by Eduard -first
Message-ID: <3C8EEDDF.5026AD01@earthlink.net>
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but how does one get the longitudinal
'corrugated' effect of a Vickers cooling jacket with PE, and, apart from detail bits,
why would one mess with it when there are perfectly suitable cast metal & resin
alternatives...?
Paul Thompson wrote:
> Hans,
>
> The Part Parabellum set is very nice - 3 guns with spare ammo cannisters.
> In both 1/72 and 1/48. (They also do Vickers guns, control horns,
> turnbuckles and stitching, emminently usable ;even if you can do stuff like
> the control horns out of scraps, these are stronger if you use stretch
> thread for the wires - no rocker horns though).
>
> HTH Paul T.
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