WWI Digest 4236 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Revell SE5a by "Steven Perry" 2) Showtime ! by Shane Weier 3) Re: Matt by Mark Miller 4) Re: Matt by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 5) Re: Matt by "Hans Trauner" 6) Re: Matt by "Hans Trauner" 7) Re: Showtime ! SO StE is going the wear his G-String again .. by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) Re: Matt by "Steven Perry" 9) Re: Matt by "Lance Krieg" 10) Re: Any one seen or built the Maquette 1/48th Morane G by Witold Kozakiewicz 11) Re: Matt by "Sandy Adam" 12) RE: New Eduards (Alb W4) by "Sandy Adam" 13) Re: Any one seen or built the Maquette 1/48th Morane G by REwing@aol.com 14) Revell SE5a by "Sandy Adam" 15) Re:New Eduards (Alb W4) by "Brad Gossen" 16) News in Jadar by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 17) Re: Albatros D.V/D.Va by Mikesh by "iban" 18) Re: News in Jadar by "Steven Perry" 19) Re: News in Jadar by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Fokker Prototypes by "Steven Perry" 21) Re: Southward Ho !!!! by Steve Cox 22) re: Fokker Prototypes by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) Re: Fokker Prototypes by "Brian Nicklas" 24) re: Fokker Prototypes by "Steven Perry" 25) Re: News in Jadar by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 26) Re: Fokker Prototypes by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 27) Re: Albatros D.V/D.Va by Mikesh by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 28) Re: Fokker Prototypes by "Pedro Soares" 29) Re: News in Jadar by "Steven Perry" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:43:44 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Revell SE5a Message-ID: <003d01c1c54f$9c615fc0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > But these are two different scales, yes? Airwaves made a 1/48 PE > set for the Aurora/Monogram SE5a, but I don't recall an Eduard one in > either scale. Did I miss something? I had an Eduard 1/72 PE detail kit for the Revell SE.5a. It was really overscale and I was only able to use parts of it sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:56:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Showtime ! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDCBF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent says: >I'll be seeing some of the listees soon too. E. the Heretic, Dave Burke and >Steven Perry in a little over a week. Perhaps Matt himself in Kansas city or >Des Moines. Huh? I thought the show was *this* weekend. Oooh goody. That gives it an extra seven days....... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 2002 13:10:57 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <20020306211057.13913.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Wed, 06 March 2002, tbittners@sprintmail.com messa: >> One last thing: if this message offended anyone, I apologise. If you want me off the list, I'll leave. However, I will *not* give up my obsession with French WW1 subjects. > > > Matt Bittner Matt I sincerely hope you are NOT serious about this "if you want me off the list, I'll leave" thing What are you nuts??? some jerk-off with an ax to grind accuses you of the HORRIBLE sin of advocating 1/72 French ac and you are willing to leave us ?? I'm no fan of 1/72 models - and the French ac have no particular appeal for me either. But PLEASE ignore this whole foolish buisness and continue as you always have. The whole question is ridiculous please - don't give it another thought Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:24:09 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC95CB@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Hey Matt, I think I found what you're doing wrong! You said it yourself, you don't structure your life around your web work! And don't even think about leaving this list. If you do, we'll hunt you down like the dog you are, take your picture, and post it in the Rogue's Gallery. Huge grin, donning flameproof suit, diving for cover, and all that, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:36:31 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <000901c1c556$fb25c3a0$24bc72d4@FRITZweb> > > Matt > I sincerely hope you are NOT serious about this "if you want me off the list, I'll leave" thing > > What are you nuts??? > some jerk-off with an ax to grind accuses you of the HORRIBLE sin of advocating 1/72 French ac and you are willing to leave us ?? > > I'm no fan of 1/72 models - and the French ac have no particular appeal for me either. > But PLEASE ignore this whole foolish buisness and continue as you always have. > > The whole question is ridiculous > please - don't give it another thought > Mark To be honest, I did not follow this thread from the very beginning and I am realising now lately what's happening. Can this be true? I only can say the very same as Mark. Please, Matt, don't waste any second more with the thought of leaving this list. It would never be the same again. And we owe you too much! Stay with us!!! We need you. And a list only dealing with 1/48 scale german objects would be *boring!* Hans ( I am really getting nervous....is there really a struggle because Matt is prefering 1/72 french objects...unbelievable...?!?) :-((( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:38:33 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <001301c1c557$44c56ba0$24bc72d4@FRITZweb> Can't cool down.... please tell me that this is only strange humour...isn't it? H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Miller" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Matt > On Wed, 06 March 2002, tbittners@sprintmail.com messa: > > >> One last thing: if this message offended anyone, I apologise. If you want me off the list, I'll leave. However, I will *not* give up my obsession with French WW1 subjects. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > Matt > I sincerely hope you are NOT serious about this "if you want me off the list, I'll leave" thing > > What are you nuts??? > some jerk-off with an ax to grind accuses you of the HORRIBLE sin of advocating 1/72 French ac and you are willing to leave us ?? > > I'm no fan of 1/72 models - and the French ac have no particular appeal for me either. > But PLEASE ignore this whole foolish buisness and continue as you always have. > > The whole question is ridiculous > please - don't give it another thought > Mark > > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:54:27 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Showtime ! SO StE is going the wear his G-String again .. Message-ID: <005901c1c559$7c583000$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Man of man I want a front row seat for this one. ;-) Sorry we didnt get to meet up this week mate. I was looking forward to it. Hope you enjoyed your time with StY. Mitress Pinch and Neil E. Cheers mate.... and FART FART FART ... We can have fun on this board too.......... Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: [WWI] Showtime ! > Brent says: > > >I'll be seeing some of the listees soon too. E. the Heretic, Dave Burke and > > >Steven Perry in a little over a week. Perhaps Matt himself in Kansas city > or > >Des Moines. > > Huh? I thought the show was *this* weekend. > > Oooh goody. That gives it an extra seven days....... > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:57:38 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <006101c1c559$ee6a7540$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > << Ken, you spread a lot of ill feelings all over everyone's monitors. You owe > the man a straight public answer to his question. >> > > I publicly apologize to each and every one of you for spreading ill feelings > all over everyone's monitors. Ken For my part, your apology is not only accepted, it is also appreciated and respected. > At some point, it can sound pretty shrill coming the other way on *my > monitor*, sp, and that is as straight-up as I am capable of being. Point taken. Having been on the list for for a few years, I'm used to various members waving the flag for their area of interest/obsession. In fact this is one of the things I like about the List, but I can see where it can be taken as something more than the good natured expression of personal interest that it is. Face to face we have body language and facial expression to clarify and give context to our words. Here on the List we have only the words themselves. So, silly as they are, I often include emoticons and such just to make sure the intended meaning of the words is the one received. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 15:56:15 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: , Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: "Can't cool down.... please tell me that this is only strange humour...isn't it?" Don't worry, Hans, Matt isn't going anywhere. It was a pretty strange humour, to be sure, but I am confident that Matt will be around to make 1/72 French planes and tease us about all the others for a long time. lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 23:06:41 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Any one seen or built the Maquette 1/48th Morane G Message-ID: <3C8692F1.4050300@bg.am.lodz.pl> Ross, I have two of them. Black plastic, little flash, very nice thin wings and rather thick rudder and stabilizator. Decals - only roundels and you can throw them away. Instruction is only one sheet but it has great drawings from Modelist-Konstruktor magazine. details in 1:10, 1:20 scale, with engine cutaway, general drawings 1:40. It is not Eduard, but looks very interesting. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:03:47 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Re: Matt Message-ID: <005501c1c564$7afeb980$11e8b094@sandyada> Let's just gloss over this.... Sandy PS J'aime les avions Nieuports ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:11:02 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: RE: New Eduards (Alb W4) Message-ID: <005601c1c564$7bcfc520$11e8b094@sandyada> >BTW Sandy what publication was that Eduard ad in? It was the glossy cover one, Graham! SAMI I think. I always get these mixed up unless I have one to hand. Anyway it was the one that a lot of people dislike because of the Caruana guy. I've gotten pretty selective over modelling mags recently as the WWI content is sometimes poor. This edition also had a half page build of the BM Snipe by Rod Holland, and I tread warily as I understand he is a good guy and used to do first rate stuff, but the pic is not very great again I'm afraid. I now skim through before buying and recently this has resulted in most mags going back on the shelf! S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:17:38 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Any one seen or built the Maquette 1/48th Morane G Message-ID: <66.1d25b00c.29b7fd92@aol.com> Ross asked, "Hi all. So has anyone seen or built the Maquette 1/48th Morane G ?? Is it any good??" I bought the kit from Squadron for around 6 or 8 bucks. It is molded in white plastic and is very basic with a few pieces having some of flash. For the price, I think it is well worth it. It definitely wouldn't take much to get a great model. IMHO, ~Rick~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:23:58 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Revell SE5a Message-ID: <005701c1c566$01dbc280$11e8b094@sandyada> >Does anyone from the UK know where the old Eduard SE5a photoetch set can be had? Catalogue number 48-045 designed for Monogram/SMER. Hannants don't stock it and I can't think of another source. Hi Tom You could try LSA models who import Eduard direct, but I'm afraid I don't have any contact details to hand, maybe somebody got a mag there? Otherwise try Aeroclub who keep a lot of Eduard PE, or Geoff Stanley - do a search on Aces High models in Liverpool and you'll get an e-address for him. Maybe Lubos at Vamp could get one from source? HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:27:09 -0800 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re:New Eduards (Alb W4) Message-ID: <007d01c1c57f$952605a0$41b15f41@bradgossen> Shane I wonder if you would consider beginning to scratch an A.W. FK8 ? Please!? Pretty please!? Brad nr: The Many Deaths of The Red Baron - The Richthofen Controversey 1918-2000 (I especially like the theory that he was downed by a #3 Sqdn AFC RE8) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: [WWI] Re:New Eduards (Alb W4) > Sandy says: > > > but also an Albatros W4 which was news to me. > > But not to me. It's no coincidence that my scratchbuilt W.4 is the closest > to complete of my three projects. > > Of course, I stopped building it when Eduard released the D.III expecting > that my work was done and the Modelling Gods would now feel free to let the > Eduard kit appear, so for once I've save some of the pain! > > >These are all 1/48 of course and the Camels are a Comic and two different > >F.1s (thought one might have been a 2F.1, but this will perhaps come > >later) > > Yummmm.... > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:46:15 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: News in Jadar Message-ID: <015f01c1c569$1c341da0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Nobody even tried to guess.... :-( G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:41:53 -0500 From: "iban" To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.V/D.Va by Mikesh Message-ID: <000801c1c568$ed1791a0$0bd9fea9@eis> You lucky SOB, Mike! :-) Mine was the second order, and apparently (according to the somewhat bewildered bookseller, who was deluged by orderswithin hours) you only beat me to it by minutes. What do you bet he's regretting he didn't up the price? Enjoy it extra much for all the rest of us who envy you, would you? Cheers! Iban. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: [WWI] Albatros D.V/D.Va by Mikesh > Hi all, > > Today's happiness is receiving an email from a bookseller in Stockholm that subject copy is in the mail. He said he received three orders for it within the first six hours it was posted. Luckily, mine was first. > > Seems I recall someone mentioning that the tail colors weren't right. I'd appreciate a repeat so I can make a copy and put it in the book. I know it's in the archives somewhere but I'm so computer illiterate I never seem to be able make it work. > > TIA, > Mike Kavanaugh _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:13:16 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: News in Jadar Message-ID: <00b401c1c56c$e141a4c0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Nobody even tried to guess.... > :-( > > G. I've seen two pre-assembled new Airmo resin models. Still without > PE, painting and decals. Of course OT airplanes. > Guess, what? > (hint: not the smallest ones) OK, a Stakken & an I'lya ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:18:22 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: News in Jadar Message-ID: <01bc01c1c56d$9936d820$0200a8c0@x.pl> > OK, a Stakken & an I'lya ;-) > > sp No, not Illya.... there is ICM model. Answer will be in 30 minutes. G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:29:04 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: <00be01c1c56f$161fa960$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> I've had a Rodent D.VII on the bench for over a month now. It's sitting up on the U/C sans top wing. The resemblence to a Junkers D.I is pronounced. Looks like it would have been a hot fighter with just a little more lower wing, (well a lot more lower wing). Does anyone know if Tony & Reinhold ever played with a low wing monoplane variant? sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 00:36:13 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Southward Ho !!!! Message-ID: Don't worry Bob, I'll forward all the list mail on to to you. Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line �� I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Bob Pearson" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Southward Ho !!!! > > Hi All, > > I have just unsubscribed (I learnt my lesson two years ago - returned to > 3000 messages) and am headed off to Seattle and environs to meet up with > some listees at the IPMS show there this weekend. > > Catch y'all when I get back. > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:39:09 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: <01da01c1c570$804689c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > Does anyone know if Tony & Reinhold ever played with a low wing monoplane > variant? > sp Sure!!!! both rotary and inline engines. http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=72042.jpg http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=72029.jpg http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=48002.jpg >From Omega webpage. G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:41:39 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: The Fokker V 25 was a low-wing monoplane variant of the Dr.I, the Fokker V 29 was a parasol-wing monoplane variant of the D.VII. Going through Gray & Thetford's "German Aircraft of the First World War" it looks as if Fokker & Co. prefered parasol to low-wing, they didn't play with the latter near as much as the former. Barry at Rosemont http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/ had a nice resin kit of the V 25, but it is no longer listed, so it must be out of production. -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:43:58 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: re: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: <00c801c1c571$2acdef00$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> Too cool! Thanks G sp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: [WWI] re: Fokker Prototypes > > > Does anyone know if Tony & Reinhold ever played with a low wing > monoplane > > variant? > > sp > Sure!!!! > both rotary and inline engines. > http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=72042.jpg > http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=72029.jpg > http://www.omega.d2.cz/show.php?show=48002.jpg > >From Omega webpage. > G. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:59:13 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: News in Jadar Message-ID: <020001c1c573$4e1fc3a0$0200a8c0@x.pl> AEG G.IV (yes, sp!) and Felixstove. G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:10:13 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: <001101c1c574$d672a3c0$236e160a@CSP00> sp, > > Does anyone know if Tony & Reinhold ever played with a low wing monoplane > variant? > sp > there were numerous Fokker monoplanes, and low/midwing planes were: - the V 17 mid wing rotary engined monoplane - with a somewhat elliptical wing - the V 20 inline engined mid wing monoplane with a mixed wood/fabric covering of the rectangular wing - the V 23 inline engined mid wing monoplane with a trapezoidal wing - the V 25 rotary engined low wing monoplane with a trapezoidal wing all rather easy to convert from a Dr I or D VII - I did all four years some 15 or so years ago as some of my first scratchbuilds, even though only the V 23 has survived a the numerous moves I did in the meantime... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:17:06 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Albatros D.V/D.Va by Mikesh Message-ID: <5f.2391cb12.29b81992@aol.com> Thanks Mark, Your memory didn't fail you. Brian responded off list with a nicely detailed write-up of the Stropp aircraft confirming this. Regards, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Wed, 6 Mar 2002 3:35:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mark Miller writes: > I think Brian told me that the rudder is supposed to be CDL (the moving part - what is that called?) > but the NASM painted it white. > > hmmm ... > I think that's it - but not sure ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:22:07 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Fokker Prototypes Message-ID: <003e01c1c576$7faad740$367316d5@netcabo.pt> Steve, IPMS Fort Crook site, another one of sites maintained by our prolific Matt, had at one time an extremely well done V.25, converted from a revell DVII. Is it still on-line Matt? Pedro ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:34:27 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: News in Jadar Message-ID: <000b01c1c578$38df7300$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > AEG G.IV (yes, sp!) > and Felixstove. > G. No not the AEG...there's the Merlin kit ;-) sp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4236 **********************