WWI Digest 4233 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Happy birthday! by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 2) Warning! Fusion on the Work Bench by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 3) Windsock subscription by "ot811" 4) Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) by tbittners@sprintmail.com 5) Well, I don't like THIS... by "Lance Krieg" 6) Article thoughts by tbittners@sprintmail.com 7) RE: Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) by "Diego Fernetti" 8) RE: Article thoughts by Balzer Mr Gregory P 9) Re: Article thoughts by "ot811" 10) RE: Well, I don't like THIS... by Crawford Neil 11) RE: Bleriot (was Windsock subscription) by tbittners@sprintmail.com 12) RE: Bleriot (was Windsock subscription) by "Diego Fernetti" 13) Re: Windsock subscription by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 14) RE: Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) by "ot811" 15) to Hans! by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: Fe2 pusher prop shape qn- again by Crawford Neil 17) Re: Windsock subscription by "ot811" 18) RE: Well, I don't like THIS... by "David C. Fletcher" 19) 新站到、好運到 Time:AM 02:30:26 by dftrdtr444c@kimo.com.tdfsw 20) RE: Article thoughts by PetersList@aol.com 21) Kit wanted by tbittners@sprintmail.com 22) Did someone say Bleriot by "Lee M." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 02:43:16 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Happy birthday! Message-ID: <3C84E794.D0848D73@tac.com.au> Diego Fernetti wrote: > > Happy birthday Pedrito, B嫫bara and Michael! > How were the presents? Something OT? > D. Hi all, Glasses were raised in honour of Pedro, Barbara and Michael last night at a list meeting of Shane the Elder, Neil Eddy, Mistress Lorna and myself, before tucking into some very nice steak ;-) Regards, Shane the Younger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:41:53 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Warning! Fusion on the Work Bench Message-ID: <4e.78dc5a7.29b64142@aol.com> Hi all, I use acetone to debond my CA glued fingers and, aside from not breathing the fumes, have not been too careful how I handled it. Again, scientists are claiming to have created the fusion process in the lab, this time using acetone. See: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020304/ts_nm/sciencefusion dc Watch for the wrap. Now, I suppose the Feds will be requiring warning lables on bottles of fingernail polish remover stating, "Warning! Do not shake to introduce air bubbles at freezing temperatures as it may be hazardous to your health. " ;-) Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:03:47 -0500 From: "ot811" To: "wwi-list" Subject: Windsock subscription Message-ID: <003301c1c45f$587a6cc0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> My first subscribed issue of the Windsock arrived today by ship and bike and tonga- the jan 2002 issue. This is a red letter day in the ot811 library. Nice article by Alberto on the Bleriots, profiles by Bob Pearson. Photos of models by Steve Hustad and Steve Lawson. The urge to scratchbuild the Bleriot XI increased a couple degrees. Even a readers letter about props and handed-ness! regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:11:37 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) Message-ID: <20020305161137.74124468FA@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:04:46 -0500 (EST), ot811 wrote: > The urge to scratchbuild the Bleriot XI increased a couple degrees. Too bad the Blue Rider Bleriot isn't still available (although I consider myself lucky to have one). The rear "fuselage" structure was p/e (along with other "stuff") while the rest was vac. I wonder what ever happened to Blue Rider's molds? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:14:42 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Well, I don't like THIS... Message-ID: In wrapping up my Felixstowe project, I retrieved the bombs I cast last fall to ttach to the plane. These are standard resin pieces with styrene details. One bomb is fine, but the other is basically melting down, and has eaten through its enamel paint as well as the styrene fins. I assume that I did a bad job in mixing the resins, but it had set up properly and showed no sign that it would, months later, self-destruct. Anyone else encountered this? TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Article thoughts Message-ID: <20020305161543.E9ACF468FA@eclipse.qis.net> I've been contemplating something. I've been thinking about how to "web-replicate" out of print articles. Should the flow/outline be retained, or should it be "flowing", inserting the images/maps/tables where appropriate? For example, when the article is in multiple columns (ala the newspaper), should those columns be retained, or should the text flow in "typical" book, paragraph form? Thoughts? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:26:09 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) Message-ID: <01a801c1c462$75887200$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt! Sanjeev is a bigscaler (until he sees the truth of small scales) so the BR wouldn't do for him. The PE would look a bit dissapointing, tough, as it wouldn't reflect the true beam structure of the real thing. Do you have the "Eyewitness" book on Flying machines? they have there a beautiful portrait of the cross-channel Bleriot. The vertical structure members have a streamlined cross section! I have the rough "Skuld" vac where the only parts useable are the wings. In fact, little else is needed if you intend to build an accurate Bleriot. Has anyone seen the Formaplane Bleriot Militaire? Comments? D. PS: Sanjeev, if you got Windsock, you're doomed! You'll become even more obsessed with this hobby. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: [WWI] Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:04:46 -0500 (EST), ot811 wrote: > > > The urge to scratchbuild the Bleriot XI increased a couple degrees. > > Too bad the Blue Rider Bleriot isn't still available (although I consider myself lucky to have one). The rear "fuselage" structure was p/e (along with other "stuff") while the rest was vac. I wonder what ever happened to Blue Rider's molds? > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:23:39 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Article thoughts Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C9760169D13E@TECOM03E> Matt, Depends on if you are trying to create an historic replication of the book, or making it functional. If function is your goal, go with paragraphs. Greg -----Original Message----- From: tbittners@sprintmail.com [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Article thoughts I've been contemplating something. I've been thinking about how to "web-replicate" out of print articles. Should the flow/outline be retained, or should it be "flowing", inserting the images/maps/tables where appropriate? For example, when the article is in multiple columns (ala the newspaper), should those columns be retained, or should the text flow in "typical" book, paragraph form? Thoughts? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:29:00 -0500 From: "ot811" To: "wwi-list" Subject: Re: Article thoughts Message-ID: <004e01c1c462$dd182230$0800010a@cyberelan.com> I hate multi-columns on browser (as done in pdf). Depending on the pixel size of your screen they make you scroll up and down and lose place. Secondly, unless you use PDF, you will endup messing up the columns if you stick to simple (least common denominator) HTML. My suggestion would be to go for the full power of HTML, and use thumbnails and hotlinks to the hilt. regards SSH > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:37:05 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Well, I don't like THIS... Message-ID: Hate to hear this Lance, scares me off resins, again. I'd suggest using milliput instead, but I'm sure it won't mould as well as resin, so a poor substitute, at least its stable. /Neil C. (FWIW) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:38:19 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Bleriot (was Windsock subscription) Message-ID: <20020305163819.BA04A468FA@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:27:14 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: >Sanjeev is a bigscaler (until he sees the truth of small scales) so the BR >wouldn't do for him. Someday everyone will see the light. Bwahahahaha... >The PE would look a bit dissapointing, tough, as it wouldn't reflect the >true beam structure of the real thing. Do you have the "Eyewitness" book on >Flying machines? they have there a beautiful portrait of the cross-channel >Bleriot. The vertical structure members have a streamlined cross section! Well, it would be some work, but you could build up the p/e with white-glue, or whatever. Or maybe even using the p/e as a "template" to build replacements. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:52:45 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Bleriot (was Windsock subscription) Message-ID: <01bd01c1c466$2c92a1c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt! > Someday everyone will see the light. Bwahahahaha... Amen! > Well, it would be some work, but you could build up the p/e with white-glue, or whatever. Or maybe even using the p/e as a "template" to build replacements. I like the second version best. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 11:51:48 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Windsock subscription Message-ID: <6c.18787900.29b651a5@aol.com> Sanjeev, Pay no attention to the darksiders. As soon as my Avro Triplane is further along, I'm going to start the Bleriot XI in 1/12 scale. I have the drawings and can get the spoked wheels. If you haven't seen it before, look at: http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Ridge/2450/bleriot.htm Regards, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:54:05 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: RE: Bleriot (was Re: Windsock subscription) Message-ID: <005b01c1c466$5eeaa9b0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Diego, I have the NASM book on the Bleriot (Thanks to James Fahey). This is a fantastic book and has a lot of detail. All wooden struts were also shaved down to elliptic cross-section to save weight. And no, I am not obsessed with the hobby. I spend at least 15 mins per day doing other things. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:55:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Hans Trauner" Cc: "ww1 list" Subject: to Hans! Message-ID: <01e001c1c466$a9b36860$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks a lot Hans for the pictures I write you to the list address as well because my messages direct are bouncing! Great stuff from Ingolstadt! I want a leather coat like those! Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:58:57 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Fe2 pusher prop shape qn- again Message-ID: Sanjeev and Lance were discussing handed props. I think this is particuarly difficult on any aircraft equipped with RR Eagles, when I was doing my DH4A I couldn't work out which way the darn thing went, on some photos of the same plane it went one way, on others t'other way, drove me nuts! I think (especially after the war) they replaced the prop and engine together, so depending on which engine they thought was in best condition that was the way the prop turned. My two non-euro 顤en. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:26:43 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Windsock subscription Message-ID: <007901c1c46a$eeffe610$0800010a@cyberelan.com> >>>> Pay no attention to the darksiders Ofcourse not, Mike. Er..., can you turn on the light in here please. Thanks for the link. I will probably bug you for more info if I take up the scratch-build. I am contemplating 1:48. Use brass and solder for the structure. I am hoping the fotocut spoked wheels will fit. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:28:08 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Well, I don't like THIS... Message-ID: <004301c1c473$802b77a0$af884318@cc.shawcable.net> Neil said "I'd suggest using milliput instead, but I'm sure it won't mould as well as resin... I have used plumber's epoxy for years. It is stable and it retains the detail from the mould (mold? moled? moald?...) well. I make the masters from latex, either in a small box to retain the shape or with a bit of chopped fibreglass to add body to the latex and help it to retain its shape (after the initial two or three coats of course!), FWIW Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 02:30:26 From: dftrdtr444c@kimo.com.tdfsw To: wwkin@cs.ust.hk Subject: 新站到、好運到 Time:AM 02:30:26 Message-ID: <200203051829.CAA00256@ms27.hinet.net> Dear, Mr. www-registry, 千百 go