WWI Digest 4210 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: E series Pfalz loz. by Todd Hayes 2) RE: Pfalz Question by Shane Weier 3) Re: Zen andt the Art of Plastic Modeling by Ken Schmitt 4) RE: Pfalz Questions, part 9 by Ken Schmitt 5) Re: E series Pfalz loz./again by plesha3@comcast.net 6) Hi Y'all!! by "ibs4421" 7) Re: ot Golden Moments on Ice by Ken Schmitt 8) RE: Hi Y'all!! by Shane Weier 9) RE: Hi Y'all!! by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 10) Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W by Ken Schmitt 11) Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W by "ibs4421" 12) RE: Hi Y'all!! by "ibs4421" 13) RE: Hi Y'all!! by Ken Schmitt 14) RE: Hi Y'all!! by Ken Schmitt 15) Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W by Ken Schmitt 16) RE: Hi Y'all!! by Shane Weier 17) RE: one list, one good group by Ken Schmitt 18) Pegasus DH-5 by Dennis Ugulano 19) Re: Hi Y'all!! by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 20) New retail kit source by Karen Rychlewski 21) Re: Hi Y'all!! by Shane Weier 22) DML Rickenbacker Spad XIII by Todd Hayes 23) Re: Zen andt the Art of Plastic Modeling by PetersList@aol.com 24) RE: totally ot but its quiet tonight by "Diego Fernetti" 25) re:Spad belly by "Diego Fernetti" 26) Re: ScaleModels by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: Spad for Todd by "robert owens" 28) re:Spad belly by Crawford Neil 29) re:Spad belly by "Diego Fernetti" 30) for Allan by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 31) RE: new to group by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:00:16 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: E series Pfalz loz. Message-ID: <20020225010016.5060.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Tom, That's probably the E.VI. The HR Models box of the E. VI shows it with the painted on loz. Todd --- plesha3@comcast.net wrote: > Hi > There appears to be photos of 1 (one) of the Pfalzs > E series, that was done > up in an experimental hand painted loz. If anyone > is interested I can > easily dig up the picture. > Later > Tom > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:05:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Pfalz Question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC5A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rory, > > > "...FMP's dirty big book of > > > pfalzies..." > > What makes it dirty? All them pfalzies. > > Or does this translate to > > something like 'bloody huge'? Exactly. But I wouldn't use a rude word like b***** Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:36:07 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Zen andt the Art of Plastic Modeling Message-ID: Karen- and this is what the "high school dance" has come to.... > Regards, > Mike Kavanaugh > Who has finally found a nearly mint copy of Woodman's "Early Aircraft > Armament, etc." feeling old enough to model, from now on- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:39:21 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: RE: Pfalz Questions, part 9 Message-ID: Hello Australia- Here in the States we say "All y'all" and that has similar effect. Ask Warren. > All them pfalzies. "All them there tapered & laid up and on types-uh" -Kenneth, the Archaic ps: go Canada ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:48:24 -0500 From: plesha3@comcast.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: E series Pfalz loz./again Message-ID: <000b01c1bd9e$83ab2b40$ae913c44@macmb101.mi.comcast.net> Todd says: > That's probably the E.VI. The HR Models box of the E. > VI shows it with the painted on loz. Absolutely correct Todd! One of the photos is in the Windsock. I think I have another photo of it buried in my ref's. Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:02:03 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <009801c1bda8$cdb178c0$7e3dfad1@dwfjv01> > Here in the States we say "All y'all" and that has similar effect. > Ask Warren. To whit: y'all - singular Usage: "Ken, did y'all get the kit I sent y'all?" all y'all - plural Usage: "All y'all have been such a help to my WWI modeling efforts, bless yore hearts!" all y'all's - plural posessive Usage: "All y'alls models in the gallery really inspire me to greater efforts and realism in my modeling." additionally, I would like give a big "Hi Y'all!" from the hills and hollers of South-Central Kentucky, welcome to the greatest and friendliest modeling list on the web. boy Howdy! Y'all all just wait and see what a looney bin y'all have fallen into. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:04:20 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: ot Golden Moments on Ice Message-ID: Rob't: CONGRATULATIONS FROM THIS HUMBLE YANK. wtg, CA-nu-DAH!!!! Tell the cat: From now on - only the good stuff. -Kenneth, South of The Border, down Mexico way. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:05:07 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC5E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Warren and Ken spend some time: > > Here in the States we say "All y'all" and that has similar effect. > > Ask Warren. > > To whit: > > y'all - singular > Usage: "Ken, did y'all get the kit I sent y'all?" etc. So why all y'all botherin' to tell us about it? Aussie/British/Polish/Belgian/Canadian/pick_any_other slang might be new to someone else, but the rest of us see so much US TV that we usually already knew it about age 3 ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:16:54 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <3C79ACA6.8F178B18@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > So why all y'all botherin' to tell us about it? > Aussie/British/Polish/Belgian/Canadian/pick_any_other slang might be new to > someone else, but the rest of us see so much US TV that we usually already > knew it about age 3 > > ;-) Got that in one mate or is it mate! ;-) StY ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:09:18 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W Message-ID: that's what I'm tawkin 'bout. > Y'all all just wait and see what a looney bin y'all have fallen into. -Kolonel Kornpone ps. y'all just won th' dadburn hockey 'lympics! y'all fellers rule! sumbitch! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:28:11 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W Message-ID: <00c301c1bdac$744ccf60$7e3dfad1@dwfjv01> Methinks Kenneth has been dipping into Bob Pearson's spirits while his cat isn't looking. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:38:44 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <00cd01c1bdad$edf78ca0$7e3dfad1@dwfjv01> > So why all y'all botherin' to tell us about it? > Aussie/British/Polish/Belgian/Canadian/pick_any_other slang might be new to > someone else, but the rest of us see so much US TV that we usually already > knew it about age 3 Shane, I must beg your forgiveness sir, for I watch so little TV, USA-brand or otherwise, that I was not aware that those outside of our country were so well educated about our dialects. You see, the Yankees I have to work with (as opposed to Northerners) use my native dialect in such an incorrect manner, and with such frequency, that I made the mistake of assuming that those list members that resided outside of the "Sunny Southland" might not be aware of some of the subtleties of the usage. Sorry for taking up your day sir. I remain as always. . . Your Most Obdt. Srvt., Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:39:53 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: well & this as well from Aussie movies--nuthin spay'shull, mate--we jus' grinnin at y'all, is all. Kenneth, the Chaste > From: Shane Weier > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:06:23 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Hi Y'all!! > > So why all y'all botherin' to tell us about it? > Aussie/British/Polish/Belgian/Canadian/pick_any_other slang might be new to > someone else, but the rest of us see so much US TV that we usually already > knew it about age 3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:40:46 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: perhaps it's old chap in event, greetings of the day to all you kind souls in the flip flop -K > From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:10:28 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Hi Y'all!! > > Got that in one mate or is it mate! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:42:37 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Hi Y'all!! and other tales from Brer W Message-ID: W wonders- > Methinks Kenneth has been dipping into Bob Pearson's spirits while his cat > isn't looking. nah--got my own stash, you tattler. -Ken ps - don't y'all fellers ever los'n up or is this 'er a private party, like? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:13:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC5F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Warren says: > I must beg your forgiveness sir, for I watch so little TV, > USA-brand or otherwise, that I was not aware that those outside of our > country were so well educated about our dialects. You see, > the Yankees I > have to work with (as opposed to Northerners) use my native > dialect in such > an incorrect manner, and with such frequency, that I made the > mistake of > assuming that those list members that resided outside of the "Sunny > Southland" might not be aware of some of the subtleties of > the usage. Sorry > for taking up your day sir. I remain as always. . . > > Your Most Obdt. Srvt., LOL A bilingual reb Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:22:57 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: RE: one list, one good group Message-ID: Shane snickers- > LOL > > A bilingual reb You may find, were you to consider a different outlook, such as you might wish also, that quite a few of us...Rebs...are bilingual. And damn fine company. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:04:36 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Pegasus DH-5 Message-ID: <200202250004_MC3-F35B-E8E@compuserve.com> Everyone, I got my DH-5 yesterday and it is one fine little kit. I have it cut out and dry fit and I do see the problem with the turtle deck. Knowing it was there, I sanded the front section until I got it to fit. It's not perfect but there will only be minor problems getting a good fit. I have an ot project in front of it but I may just knock it out next. Then I will have the Merlin and Pegasus kits side by side. Still having computer problems so I still unable to upload the Junkers D.1 to my web site. Hopefully soon. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 01/12/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:30:22 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <3C79CBED.C20BE08F@verizon.net> Except in the New York- New Jersey-Eastern Pennsylvania are where the term is Youse as in Singular usage: Ken did youse get the kit I sent youse? Plural usage: Youse guys have been so much help to my WWI modeling efforts, fagedaboudit. Plural Possessive: Youse guys models in the gallery really inspire me - oh fagedaboudit. Alvie ibs4421 wrote: > > Here in the States we say "All y'all" and that has similar effect. > > Ask Warren. > > To whit: > > y'all - singular > Usage: "Ken, did y'all get the kit I sent y'all?" > > all y'all - plural > Usage: "All y'all have been such a help to my WWI modeling efforts, bless > yore hearts!" > > all y'all's - plural posessive > Usage: "All y'alls models in the gallery really inspire me to greater > efforts and realism in my modeling." > > additionally, I would like give a big "Hi Y'all!" from the hills and hollers > of South-Central Kentucky, welcome to the greatest and friendliest modeling > list on the web. boy Howdy! Y'all all just wait and see what a looney bin > y'all have fallen into. > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 01:07:46 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: New retail kit source Message-ID: <3C79D4B1.9C3365AC@earthlink.net> Hi y'all (Youse guys might be taking advantage of Allan's illness...) Met a new-to-me vendor today and would like to pass it on. I dropped a bundle at his table and will help make payments on his Cadillac if he comes through with what he says he can get; so this is *not* a recommendation--simply an advisement. But I do get a good feeling from the guy... Red Star Models, Pittsburgh PA USA http://www.redstarmodels.com/ The website catalog is outdated, but he has two very nice paper catalogs(one for kits; one for books) for $3.00 each which includes monthly updates. The great thing is he specializes exclusively in Polish, Ukranian, and Russian kits and books and his catalogs have (better than Squadron) pictures of each kit box and book cover. The website will give you an idea of the range of manufacturers he sells. Some random price comparisons I did put him in the Squadron/Roll Models range: sometimes less, sometimes more. The deal is he carries only a very small in-stock supply and orders often from his supplier in Warsaw; he advertises 2 to 4 week delivery. The book list is a gold mine: lots of stuff I don't think is available elsewhere in the US; including the two post-WWI Polish aircraft books recently mentioned (I told him if he really can get copies of the Goworok book, he'll have all y'all queing up to slap your money down). Oh, yeah, "he" is Horacio Tisera, an Argentinian with Polish wife (there's the OT list connection :-) Tell him I sent you... Once again, I just bought some books and stuff he had with him, so I don't know how reliable he will be for mail order. But he seems to be serious about getting his business going (...and I've been wrong before). But after waiting weeks for orders from Roll Models and VAMP, months for orders from Schorsch, etc. etc. etc., I'm willing to give someone else a try. FWIW, FYI, YMMV. Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:23:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Hi Y'all!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC67@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Alvie says: > Except in the New York- New Jersey-Eastern Pennsylvania are > where the term is > Youse as in > > Singular usage: > > Ken did youse get the kit I sent youse? > > Plural usage: > > Youse guys have been so much help to my WWI modeling efforts, > fagedaboudit. > > Plural Possessive: > > Youse guys models in the gallery really inspire me - oh fagedaboudit. Huh. My TV watching had led me to believe that this dialect was used in Noo Joisey.... Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:04:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DML Rickenbacker Spad XIII Message-ID: <20020225070448.27116.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi y'all, Does anyone know where I could find one of the DML Rickenbacker Spads for sale for reasonable price? Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:37:01 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Zen andt the Art of Plastic Modeling Message-ID: <166.960ecdc.29ab6dcd@aol.com> In a message dated 25/02/02 00:39:43 GMT Standard Time, CoolSpadLuke@aol.com writes: << Regards, Mike Kavanaugh Who has finally found a nearly mint copy of Woodman's "Early Aircraft Armament, >> Which meens I can reciprocate. I hate You!!!!!!!!!!! cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:03:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: totally ot but its quiet tonight Message-ID: <028601c1bdeb$fd880a80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Bob reports: > The cat is trying to drink the last of the water out of my glass. .. wonder > if he'll notice the rye flavouring to it. .. must like it .. he's still > trying. . dippping his paw into the very bottom and licking it. Hey that's animal cruelty! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:12:15 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re:Spad belly Message-ID: <029801c1bded$4837cd80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! > The grey on the Brussels Spad > is just "light grey" no particular blue in it, I'd say US Navy gull-grey sort of colour. > I'll scan 3 pics and send them to you Matt, you could post them when you have time. Send them to Matt! I'm interested to see those in colour. IIRC the NASM had a bluish tinge on it > Smith IV in the Smithsonian is the same colour on the metal parts. Unfotunately my own Spad pictures from the Smithsonian developed so darkly that they're nearly useless. :-( D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:34:30 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: ScaleModels Message-ID: <02e801c1bdf0$63b82de0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Once again, my nemesis Shane Weier got first! I drove to work repeating like a karma: "Biplanes:October 1980, Biplanes:October 1980, Biplanes:October 1980, Biplanes:October 1980, Biplanes:October 1980, Biplanes:October 1980" I ran over two pedestrians and a stray aerodrome cow on my way.... Just to be beaten off by Shane W. That's unfair. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell W Niles To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: ScaleModels > Shane > You beat Diego to it. Thanks. > I do not use issue numbers either, only month and year. Musta had a > senior moment when I wrote and asked that information. Now to dig into > the copies in the vault to see if it is there. > > Again, thanks > > Russ > > Russ Niles IPMS 4450 > Too close for missiles....switching to guns. > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:34:44 -0500 (EST) Shane Weier > writes: > > Russ asks: > > > > > What is the date and issue number of that particular copy of > > > Scale Models please? > > > > October 1980 > > > > Whatever issue number that is (don't use em myself) > > > > Shane > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:47:37 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad for Todd Message-ID: Todd, I have the other DML Spad (I forget which markings it has, as it's buried in the storage shed) for $15 including postage. Interested? Rob Owens _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:59:51 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: re:Spad belly Message-ID: > > Send them to Matt! I'm interested to see those in colour. > IIRC the NASM had > a bluish tinge on it Slightly bluish perhaps. Bad news, I read that the Brussels Spad was restored in 1975, so it just looked old, it wasn't really. > > > Smith IV in the Smithsonian is the same colour on the metal parts. > > Unfotunately my own Spad pictures from the Smithsonian > developed so darkly > that they're nearly useless. :-( > D. I have a couple, that I will send to Matt eventually, right now I'm struggling with a cyclic error on the diskett I copied the Brussels pics to. /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:12:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re:Spad belly Message-ID: <03e301c1bdf5$a0df23e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! > it just looked old, it wasn't really. Sounds like some of the antique furniture some shops sell here. > I have a couple, that I will send to Matt eventually, right now > I'm struggling with a cyclic error on the diskett I copied the Brussels > pics to. ohhh! I have another theory on the variation of colours in Spad XIIIs: Maybe the early (round wingtips) XIIIs still remained in their yellow undersides like the previous scheme. When the 5 colour was adopted and the wingtip pockets added, maybe it was considered adding a more subdued colour to the wing undersides (Light blue-grey). Maybe this is too far-fetched? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:04:53 +0100 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: for Allan Message-ID: <16fJsD-2Hu3n6C@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> Hi Allan, since saturday I receive no more mails from the list. What's the matter? Greetings Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:12:14 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: new to group Message-ID: Hi Pete, Welcome from Sweden, what are binaries? /Neil C. (only binaries I know are binary vectors) > > Are binaries discouraged and if so is there a WWI news > group for them? > > Binaries are not just dicouraged, the list server will screw > them up if > they're small and reject them if they're big. However.... > > Have a look through the web pages at.. > > http://www.wwi-models.org > > ...and you'll find scads of binaries posted by listees. > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4210 **********************