WWI Digest 4200 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Stoppani's Bebe by "robert owens" 2) RE: Curtiss NC-4 wasRE: Re: Sablatnig SF-5 & Other Lone by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 3) Re: New Guy on the List by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 4) RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 5) RE: New Guy on the List by Shane Weier 6) Re: Rosemont Review by Ken Schmitt 7) RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... by Shane Weier 8) Re: Great Models Webstore by "Fr. Craig Gavin" 9) Re: Rosemont Review by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: New Guy on the List by "Ross Moorhouse" 11) Re: New Guy on the List by "Steven Perry" 12) 1/32nd scale.. Yes i bought an OT kit in this scale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) Roden Dr.I by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modeling by "John Glaser" 15) RE: Roden Dr.I by Shane Weier 16) Mixing colors (how it came out) by "Steven Perry" 17) Re: Hobbycraft N.17 by "robert owens" 18) Re: 1/32nd scale.. Yes i bought an OT kit in this scale.. by Rory Goodwin 19) Re: 1/32nd N.17 by "robert owens" 20) Today in history - the Italian front by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 21) R: Re: 76 Squadriglia Bebe by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 22) Re: 1/32nd N.17 by "Ross Moorhouse" 23) RE: Roden Dr.I by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: 1/32nd N.17 by "Diego Fernetti" 25) Re: Aldis sight by "D Charles" 26) strut length wasRE: Roden Dr.I by Crawford Neil 27) RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:50:56 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Stoppani's Bebe Message-ID: Alberto, sorry but don't have scan capability (perhaps when my wife finishes graduate school, and we get rich!) if you'll give me ur snail-mail address, however, I'll gladly send you a xerox copy. Many thanks, Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:06:39 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Curtiss NC-4 wasRE: Re: Sablatnig SF-5 & Other Lone Message-ID: <011701c1ba7c$66c54580$236e160a@CSP00> Shane, > > However, IIRC, there was also > > an excellent article (again with plans) in a C&C (I) > > magazine, having (if > > anything) even more photos... > > Now *that* I may have, though my C&CI issues aren't indexed :-( > > Shane > Just checked the CC(I) index, and the article was in vol 10 no 1 - it deals with the NC-1 however, and I'm not sure about the differences in detail. The article was by Colin Owers, which usually is a sign for quality... Digressing slightly, one of my recent acquisitions was a book on early Curtiss aircraft ("Curtiss - the Hammondsport area"), and in that one I found one aircraft I had *never* heard of before - the Curtiss "Canada" 2 engined bomber. Now *that* would make a nice subject for a model... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:15:47 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Guy on the List Message-ID: <013501c1ba7d$acf1f160$236e160a@CSP00> Hi Bill, > but a close second is 1/72 > scale aircraft, especially WW1 models. > > It all started when I built a couple of models to hang as a little > mobile in the office. A Revell Camel and Dr.1 on a metal rod. They > looked so good twirling in the office breezes that I decided that > anything worth doing was worth over-doing! I currently have 17 > different aircraft hanging from the ceiling on a collection of rods in > my office. (I keep a can of compressed air -keyboard cleaner- to > give the action a little boost every now and then.) > > I recently took inventory, and discovered that in the past 3 years, > I've accumulated about 45 different aircraft kits, all in 1/72! > We always like having people on the list with a good choice on the proper scale... Welcome from Malaysia, Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:13:35 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... Message-ID: <012b01c1ba7d$5e351520$236e160a@CSP00> Shane says: > Volker says: > > > Modelwise, there was a double kit of the Alb D XI and Pfalz D III from > > Veeday - an article appearen in a (1981?) Scale models, > > Correct, July to be exact. > > I must dig out the SM review. My index says "KRL" (Kit review longform) > which in my system probably means a build article as opposed to an OoB > I remember this issue fairly well, as it was my *first ever* Scale Models - got it on during a holiday in Spain, and I remember I was *totally* shocked about that magazine. Beside the D XI article, there was also something (with scale drawings) about the SSW DI to D IV - really great stuff (and at that time, I had basically nothing about WW I aircraft at all...). The Mike O'Connor series about the AH air aces started around the same time, IIRC. The review of the D XI was by a guy named Norman Whitcomb (or something like that) - the same guy had *a lot* of stuff in the early Windsocks. The article also dealt with converting the D XI to the second version (with balanced ailerons).Wondering what happened to that modeler... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:23:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New Guy on the List Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC25@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Bill says: > I've just joined the list. I hope its not out of line to introduce > myself.... (snip) > Anyways, thanks for your time, I look forward to reading all the > posts.... > Nice to see you here - I *hoped* you'd join eventually (after we discussed schemes for your Aviatik Berg some months ago) Lots to learn here and a nice bunch of folks too Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:31:44 -0800 From: Ken Schmitt To: Subject: Re: Rosemont Review Message-ID: Ray asks: Rosemont Hobbies. They seem to off a > lot of variety along with their own resin detailing kits and full > vacform/resin kits. A lot of WWI stuff there. > > Comments? How do they rate as detail/kit manufactures? How do they rate as > internet retailers? Excellent. And Barry is about as nice a guy as you could want. Have ordered from them a lot and never been unhappy. Phone and other. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:46:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC26@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker reminisces: > I remember this issue fairly well, as it was my *first ever* > Scale Models - > got it on during a holiday in Spain, and I remember I was > *totally* shocked about that magazine. Beside the D XI article, there was also > something (with scale drawings) about the SSW DI to D IV - really great stuff > (and at that > time, I had basically nothing about WW I aircraft at all...). D.I, D.III and D.IV plans and photos. A great percentage of Ian Stairs output was first published in Scale Models in the late 70's through to mid 80's No surprise then that Ray Rimell was editor in at least part of this period. Atthe time SM was the best modelling magazine in print, and looking back through my collections it *still* seems better than the glossy modern productions in many ways. For example, the following month featured Nieuport 17 plans (1/72 and 1/48), photos and kit review (and also a review of a Formaplane BE.2c conversion kit) and while September was a desert populated with blowtorch aircraft October featured Nieuport 27 plans pics and reviews, Nie-24 and Nie-17bis conversions, and a review of the warbirds 1/72 Junkers D.I with accompanying plans and 1:1 photos > The Mike > O'Connor series about the AH air aces started around the same > time, IIRC. Yes. I miss that old mag. > > The review of the D XI was by a guy named Norman Whitcomb (or > something like > that) - the same guy had *a lot* of stuff in the early Windsocks. The > article also dealt with converting the D XI to the second > version (with balanced ailerons).Wondering what happened to that modeler... > You'll need to ask the British listees, but Norman Whitcombe is a name that (IIRC) comes to mind as a prolific contributor to more than one magazine in that and earlier times. Sort of a Michael Kendix of the 1970's ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:49:12 -0600 From: "Fr. Craig Gavin" To: Subject: Re: Great Models Webstore Message-ID: Ditto that! Three orders - waited weeks - ended up cancelling all three times and finding the same stuff from a different source for cheaper. Never again! - CG + > From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:47:35 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Great Models Webstore > > Your experiences echo mine. I don't go there any more. > > Mike Kavanaugh > > In a message dated Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:15:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, "ot811" > writes: > >> I ordered from them 3 times last year or so. >> - No problems at all with the one order. >> - In one case, item listed in stock, was not actually in stock >> - Another time, order was swallowed by carpet monster, and had to be >> resuscitated >> They were not responsive to email queries >> They were not easy to get on the phone. >> >> Nice colourful web interface though. >> regards >> SSH > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:52:52 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Rosemont Review Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:52:22 -0500 (EST), Raymond Rangel wrote: > One of the sites I have run across is Rosemont Hobbies. They seem to off a > lot of variety along with their own resin detailing kits and full > vacform/resin kits. A lot of WWI stuff there. > > Comments? How do they rate as detail/kit manufactures? How do they rate as > internet retailers? As others have said - and as everyone on the list knows - I'm a huge proponent of Rosemont. Have and built a number of his kits, as well as supplied masters to. Check out the Nieuport stuff. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:56:47 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: New Guy on the List Message-ID: <003801c1ba83$67615a40$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Welcome from Sydney Australia. Australia the home of the 2010 Smiggins Hole Winter Olympics. Mate you dont have sign off that you will stop rambling at all. Keep it coming. For wooden wing struts maybe try trimming down some chop sticks or BBQ sticks/skewers. That way you also dont have to worry about the painting a wood colour. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: [WWI] New Guy on the List > Hello everyone, > > I've just joined the list. I hope its not out of line to introduce > myself.... > > My primary interest is RC scale ships, but a close second is 1/72 > scale aircraft, especially WW1 models. > > It all started when I built a couple of models to hang as a little > mobile in the office. A Revell Camel and Dr.1 on a metal rod. They > looked so good twirling in the office breezes that I decided that > anything worth doing was worth over-doing! I currently have 17 > different aircraft hanging from the ceiling on a collection of rods in > my office. (I keep a can of compressed air -keyboard cleaner- to > give the action a little boost every now and then.) > > I recently took inventory, and discovered that in the past 3 years, > I've accumulated about 45 different aircraft kits, all in 1/72! > > I'm also interested in flying models, and have flown RC. One of > these days I'm going to build Peter Rake's design of the electric > powered DH-2. > > I do have a question for the experienced out there: What do you > use for strut material? I have a Meikraft Albatross C2, which is my > first limited run plastic kit. I've coped OK, but the airfoil wing struts > in the kit are just too short to use. I need to come up with some > sort of replacement. > > I tried making struts from Evergreen styrene plastic, but the profile > is to square, and the material is flimsy before thinning and shaping. > I've looked at a couple of websites, including Rosemont (who I just > discovered the other day) and I haven't found lengths of strut- > shaped material. I suspect somebody makes it, and I'm just not > looking in the right place..... > > Anyways, thanks for your time, I look forward to reading all the > posts.... > > -Bill > > > > Check out my US Coast Guard subjects model list at: > http://www.tiac.net/users/billkaja/kitlist.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:59:09 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: New Guy on the List Message-ID: <00a001c1ba83$bbfd3420$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> They > looked so good twirling in the office breezes that I decided that > anything worth doing was worth over-doing! Welcome from St. Pete, Fla Bill, sounds like you're our kinda folks. Regards sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:00:45 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: 1/32nd scale.. Yes i bought an OT kit in this scale.. Message-ID: <003e01c1ba83$f4e03120$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I got the Hobbycraft Nieuport 17 with the Russian & Estonian markings today for a song. $15 AUDs, marked right down from $32.10. So upon opening the box I am greeted by this giant kit. Well it is compared to the 1/72nd scale ones on my work desk. ;-) In fact it looks to be an ok kit detail wise. And I cant even lay the parts onto the Datafile plans to check it. Yeah!! I see that there is only one build of this kit listed on the WWI site, so has anyone else got it, built it and can make any suggestions about it please? TIA Ross.. I could even build this size kit without my specs on.. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:06:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Roden Dr.I Message-ID: Ah yes, Roden does it again. I have the top wing on my Roden Dr.I via just the interplane struts, go to match up the center struts and guess what? They're too small . Ah, modeling with a Roden/Toko kit... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:07:51 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modeling Message-ID: <004301c1ba8d$55a730e0$0f1b90d1@SalesLogixGuru.com> Bless you for your efforts, Brother Peter. - JCG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Zen and the Art of Plastic Modeling > Dear all, I shall to-day post a letter to Harry Woodman (preserve his name) > asking his permission to work up an Online version of Scale Model Aircraft in > Plastic Card. If it all comes to naught thank you all for your encouragement > over the last couple of years trying to get blood out of Nexus publications > and, more recently, when kicking the online idea around. But if permission is > his to give and he is willing to give it (I understand he can be an > irrascible old cove) watch this space. > > cheers > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:10:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Roden Dr.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDC27@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt > Ah yes, Roden does it again. > > I have the top wing on my Roden Dr.I via just the interplane > struts, go to match up the center struts and guess what? They're > too small . Ah, modeling with a Roden/Toko kit... Eduard has the reverse problem in my experience - too long. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:19:54 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Mixing colors (how it came out) Message-ID: <00b801c1ba8f$03756740$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> I was whingering about matching colors earlier today. I ended up spraying a white base coat and still had to lighten the colors, but in the end I got a darn fine match to the red, orange and blue. What I first had was a tolerable match to the profile in the Fokker Anthology I. The colors I got from Stef were a couple shades lighter. Matching color shades exactly adds a lot of extra effort to a build, especially with a multi color scheme like Gabriel's, but it adds another level of satisfaction also. I don't believe my model is any more accurate for it, but I do believe it is an accurate representation of someone's theory of what the plane might have looked like. The memories are all but gone. We have only the writings, photos and a few usually faded artifacts to go by. Each of these things gives us an incomplete and distorted image of what really was. Since we can never know for sure, making a model to accurately represent a given theory is as good a way to practice Dicta Ira as any. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:31:08 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbycraft N.17 Message-ID: Ross, Have two 1/32 Nieuports on the bench right now. Yes,the kit has problems, but no more so than previous smaller-scale kits. Ur lucky, WWI pages have a wealth of resources to improve the kit, (and a bunch of really helpful people) and improvement is not hard to do. In fact I have a set of scratch-built heel channels, and seat (both in wood)left over from my efforts. If you would like them, I'll only need ur snail-mail. Just make sure u do ur scratch fuel tank in copper vice aluminum (AARGH!!) Enjoy the Experience, Rob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:52:29 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/32nd scale.. Yes i bought an OT kit in this scale.. Message-ID: <3C748B1D.295F35F6@earthlink.net> Your timing's a bit off - I mailed the Ottoman archive today. There's a buildup article in WS 7/5. Most important thing to know: forward fuselage is *wider* than the cowl, so grind forward mating surfaces (!) to proper width before assembly. I replaced pushrods on the back of the engine (which are virtually invisible on completed kit) with lengths of wire and added plug wires. Lots of room for superdetailing on this one...not pleased with the kit's Russian roundels, but FWIW, the Breguet XIV roundels from the Blue Rider 1/48 French sheet are the right size for the upper wings. You could always build it as a Turkish machine... Ross Moorhouse wrote: > I got the Hobbycraft Nieuport 17 with the Russian & Estonian markings today > for a song. $15 AUDs, marked right down from $32.10. > > So upon opening the box I am greeted by this giant kit. Well it is compared > to the 1/72nd scale ones on my work desk. ;-) In fact it looks to be an ok > kit detail wise. And I cant even lay the parts onto the Datafile plans to > check it. Yeah!! > > I see that there is only one build of this kit listed on the WWI site, so > has anyone else got it, built it and can make any suggestions about it > please? > > TIA > > Ross.. I could even build this size kit without my specs on.. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:16:59 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/32nd N.17 Message-ID: Ross, echo Rory's remarks. Structural members(framing/stick/aileron actuator bars) are too small in diameter, and the Lewis gun is pretty bad, as well. Check out Mike Fletcher's "Nieuport Pages" http://mars.ark.com for some really sharp color/marking schemes as well as structural details. Diego Frenetti has important drawings if you want to do a Vickers armed version (shows ammo belt take-up reel). Vieux Charles Lives!! Rob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:19:28 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Today in history - the Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F051C@SERVER1> 21st February 1918: SVA-5s of the 1a Sezione Autonoma SVA, based at Sovizzo, flew non-stop from Ponte S. Pietro, in the northern Italy, to Innsbruck, to bomb railway plants. They all returned safely to base after a 3 hour flight. Alberto Casirati --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:34:04 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: 76 Squadriglia Bebe Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F0520@SERVER1> Jan is right. However, as a little reminder, I am taking the liberty of noting that the "off-white" colour was typical of Macchi-built Ni.11s with a serial within the 1,000 range, while later machines were usually camouflaged in light brown. All the very best, Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Jan Vihonen Inviato: mercoledì 20 febbraio 2002 20.17 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: 76 Squadriglia Bebe Robert wrote: > Alberto, Marc (et. al) Thanks once again for your research efforts on my > behalf! Osprey's Nieuport aces (p81) shows a photo of Mario Stoppani's Ni > 1650 with narrow angled tricolor band which DOES go over the top decking on > CDL fuselage w/ alu cowl. I assume this is the 76 Sqa marking Alberto spoke > of? Probably, since he flew with this unit. Can any one give me a paint match (or even close approximation) for the > italian brown? and, excuse my ignorance, what is "Dicta Ira?" Regards, Rob > I suppose you mean the overall colour of the (Nieuport) aircraft, it is not actually brown, the gentlemen at Osprey seem to have got it wrong. The real colour of Macchi built Nie. 11 is off-white, original having been bleached linen. Alberto gave me Humbrol 41 as a good approximation for it. HTH, Jan > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:49:16 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: 1/32nd N.17 Message-ID: <001901c1babd$065fa000$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> If I do it in the Estonian colours/marking seems I wont have to worry about the guns. From the pic in the datafile it dosnt seem to have any guns. Can anyone confirm this ? As to the Structual members I was going to replace those anyway. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert owens" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: 1/32nd N.17 > > > > Ross, echo Rory's remarks. Structural members(framing/stick/aileron actuator > bars) are too small in diameter, and the Lewis gun is pretty bad, as well. > Check out Mike Fletcher's "Nieuport Pages" http://mars.ark.com for some > really sharp color/marking schemes as well as structural details. Diego > Frenetti has important drawings if you want to do a Vickers armed version > (shows ammo belt take-up reel). Vieux Charles Lives!! Rob > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 04:54:51 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Roden Dr.I Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:11:56 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > Eduard has the reverse problem in my experience - too long. I think too long is better than too small, but maybe that's just me. ;-) That way you can slowly cut them down, versus having to scratch new ones. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:56:42 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: 1/32nd N.17 Message-ID: <00eb01c1bac6$7278e0e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Rob >Diego > Frenetti has important drawings if you want to do a Vickers armed version > (shows ammo belt take-up reel). Who, me? I wish I had. I got copies from the Nieuport 27 drawings by Bergen Hardesty. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:56:34 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: Aldis sight Message-ID: <00a301c1bac6$ac3f3900$24128aca@Charls> Here's what the books say about the Aldis sight: 32 inch long tube, 2 inches in diameter, multiple lenses, probably gas between the lenses to stop fogging. The lenses were engraved with rings so that they would be used following ring sight principles. The target image was neither enlarged nor diminished. The "full field of fire" could be seen with the pilot's eye about one foot from the end of the sight. This allowed the use of goggles and windscreens. Also, and this would have to be a big advantage of the Aldis sight, The pilot's eye did NOT have to be in the centre line of the sight tube to obtain the full field of fire. Frequently used by German pilots but never copied, probably due to tricky use of gasses. First used operationally mid 1916. In service until late 1930s. Adopted by USA as the "Unit Sight". The Aldis was a collimating sight i.e., it used lenses which transmitted parallel rays of light. The magnification was 1:1 hence "unit" or one-to-one magnification. Most of the above is from Harry Woodman's "Early Aircraft Armament". David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:02:34 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: strut length wasRE: Roden Dr.I Message-ID: We've been a bit spoilt with the old Revell and Airfix kits, where thing like struts usually fit. But I find that it is one of the most difficult parts of WW1 modelling, getting struts the right length. So in a way it's hardly surprising that newcomers like Toke/Roden have problems. If my struts were always the right length, then I wouldn't have the hassle I always have trying to get the top wing on. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:09:20 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Albatros D XI, was: German A/C of WWI Tome, and... Message-ID: I don't know, probably just got old like the rest of us, I think I saw something of his quite recently? There are a lot of his models in that model book that we sometimes discuss, the thin one with a crashed HP 0/400, and wonderful HW models. Surprisingly a very nice 1/72 Spad XIII comes to mind when I think of Norman Whitcomb. Yes definitely a very good modeller, and one of the great inspirationalists of WW1 modelling. /Neil C. > > The review of the D XI was by a guy named Norman Whitcomb (or > something like > that) - the same guy had *a lot* of stuff in the early Windsocks. The > article also dealt with converting the D XI to the second > version (with > balanced ailerons).Wondering what happened to that modeler... > > Volker > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4200 **********************