WWI Digest 4176 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) R: Help by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 2) RE: Movies by Tom Gourdie 3) RE: Movies by "Gaston Graf" 4) RE: Movies by "Gaston Graf" 5) Re: vac-forming aluminum foil? by Dave F 6) Re: Help by Dave F 7) RE: Movies by Tom Gourdie 8) RE: Movies by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: All Quiet on the Western Front by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Movie wars by Dave F 11) Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Diego Fernetti" 12) RE: Movies by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 13) Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 14) Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Diego Fernetti" 15) R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 16) Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 17) Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 18) Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... by Crawford Neil 19) Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Diego Fernetti" 20) RE: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by Crawford Neil 21) RE: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by "Ross Moorhouse" 22) Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... by "Ross Moorhouse" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:55:52 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Help Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F04E4@SERVER1> Dear Dale, the last time I looked at their site, I found a selection of Joystick vacs on the Rolls Models site. Also, if my memory serves me well, Aeroclub have them in stock. Ciao, Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Dale Sebring Inviato: mercoledì 13 febbraio 2002 23.57 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Help Can anyone tell me if Joystick kits are still avaible & if so where? Regards, Dale --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:35:39 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Gaston Would you please remember that you have frequently broken list rules and etiquette. The last time you apologised but again your are going off on tangents. Allan does a very good job of running this list. He doesn't have to do it and we should all remember that he uses UNH equipment etc with the blessing of his employer. I for one get tired not so much of the occasional deviation from list rules but of the unpleasantness this sort of thing causes when all we should be concerned about is WWI aviation/modelling and associated matters. Any list like this needs someone to moderate it and keep things On Topic and if Allan's light (and usually humorous) touch is too much for you then you know what you can do... Tom -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf [mailto:ggraf@vo.lu] Sent: 14 February 2002 00:00 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Movies Micheal, > > Please consider stopping comlaining about list administration and get on > with enjoying the list. I could understand if you were paying for this > service but it's free, and you're being ungrateful with your complaints > about list spam. I would not loose a single word about it if the list master would be a bit more tolerant. But he is only tolerant at the wrong places and I hate it to be supervised like a little child with a person telling me the whole time long how far that I can go within limits that he obviously set after his likes. > > What do you expect the list administrator to do about it? He has a full > time job and doesn't want to drive himself into the ground trying > to filter > out each little bit of spam while simulataneously maintaining easy > subscritpion. What he shall do is simple: He should block anybody from the list who is not subscribed. The list should be available to known people only to avoid spamming. And if he likes to play the boss then he should go and remind those who put in their stuipd blah-blahs and thanks and whatever instead of reminding people the whole time long when a discussion went too far after his opinion. > > As for being told what to do - well, it happens to us all. My > wife and work > supervisor are always trying to run my life. I don't allow nobody to run my life. Fortunately I am in the position to say that because at my job nobody can get any far with me if he tells me the whole time long what to do. I am the one who says what I WILL DO in case this is needed. But of course my job depends on teamwork and I usually have no problem to work in a team. I only have problems with poeple like Alan. And at home, my wife does not try to run my life either because she knows such an attempt would come to nothing. We are a family and work as a team. I am not supposed to obey to her like she is not supposed to obey to me. > > You are really fussing over nothing. Not really. Ask other people off list and you will see that I am not alone with my opinion but most of them just don't dare to say what they really think. They prefer to obey to everything the "master" says. I am just alone when it comes to speak out openly what I think because I am not the one who "makes a fist in his pocket" like we say here and I never accepted any master. A dog has a master and I am no dog! best regards Gaston This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:42:15 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Well, what I want to add is that I feel to be misunderstood here. I did not take Alans request as a personal critic towards my person - I said that I UNDERSTAND Alans point of view and so I do. Second: I DID NOT critizise Alan for anything. If he feels offended, then its his problem, not mine. All I did was throwing in that I would apreciate it a lot more to have something done against spammers and others rather than sending reminders again and again. Fact is, the reason given for stopping a discussion is always the same: Misusage of bandwith. Stupid and unnecessary comments as well as spam is a much worse misusage of bandwith in my eyes than a serious discussion is. But sometimes I get the impression that a discussion is asked to be stopped as soon as the subject line appears to pops up too often in too many messages. Remember: Not long ago there was a virus spread via the list which fortunately got eliminated by my ISP. An information message was automatically send back to the list by my ISP. The spam itself is little to rant about, but our so called "guests" are becoming a serious threat to us more and more and that is what I am complaining about. I am now waiting for the day where list members drop from the list one by one because a virus that came from the list killed their computers... Then you will see that my request to get spammers off the list was right! The Germans use to say: "Erst wenn das Kind im Brunnen liegt, kommt der Deckel drauf" (only when the child fell into the well, one puts a lid on it) I think the correct English counterpart is to "lock the stable door after the horse has bolted". Third: I did never attack anybody personally. Please reread my messages and you will see that I am saying the truth. I only spoke out honesty what I think. I just see it as unnessary to remind the serious members of this list stopping a discussion while nothing is done against the true problems that really misuse the precious bandwith. To say it again: A discussion about any OT subject is not misusing bandwith IMO while unnessary comments as well as spam in fact does. We all should think before posting stupid little blah-blahs and we should remove everything from the original message that we do not want to reply to. Then we would really save on precious bandwith and we would not need reminders from big brother Al. Unfortunately some peoiple just don't care about that. Am I really so wrong with that, folks? Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gaston and others, from what I read all Allan asked was "that we stop > the movie thread" since it had got too far off subject. I don't see > why that should be a big deal or an unacceptable request. Today I had > 173 pieces of mail from the list. So based on the fact it was busy I > can see Alans point. Gaston, Allan wasn't criticising you. You > however felt you needed to criticise him. In that case why not start > your own list if you don't like the very low key rules on this list. > Gaston whilst I am sure you are a really nice guy you do seem to have > an axe to grind, if that is so please take it off list. > > Just my opinion. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:44:10 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Well, what I want to add is that I feel to be misunderstood here. I did not take Alans request as a personal critic towards my person - I said that I UNDERSTAND Alans point of view and so I do. Second: I DID NOT critizise Alan for anything. If he feels offended, then its his problem, not mine. All I did was throwing in that I would apreciate it a lot more to have something done against spammers and others rather than sending reminders again and again. Fact is, the reason given for stopping a discussion is always the same: Misusage of bandwith. Stupid and unnecessary comments as well as spam is a much worse misusage of bandwith in my eyes than a serious discussion is. But sometimes I get the impression that a discussion is asked to be stopped as soon as the subject line appears to pops up too often in too many messages. Remember: Not long ago there was a virus spread via the list which fortunately got eliminated by my ISP. An information message was automatically send back to the list by my ISP. The spam itself is little to rant about, but our so called "guests" are becoming a serious threat to us more and more and that is what I am complaining about. I am now waiting for the day where list members drop from the list one by one because a virus that came from the list killed their computers... Then you will see that my request to get spammers off the list was right! The Germans use to say: "Erst wenn das Kind im Brunnen liegt, kommt der Deckel drauf" (only when the child fell into the well, one puts a lid on it) I think the correct English equivalent to it is to "lock the stable door after the horse has bolted". Third: I did never attack anybody personally. Please reread my messages and you will see that I am saying the truth. I only spoke out honesty what I think. I just see it as unnessary to remind the serious members of this list stopping a discussion while nothing is done against the true problems that really misuse the precious bandwith. To say it again: A discussion about any OT subject is not misusing bandwith IMO while unnessary comments as well as spam in fact does. We all should think before posting stupid little blah-blahs and we should remove everything from the original message that we do not want to reply to. Then we would really save on precious bandwith and we would not need reminders from big brother Al. Unfortunately some peoiple just don't care about that. Am I really so wrong with that, folks? Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gaston and others, from what I read all Allan asked was "that we stop > the movie thread" since it had got too far off subject. I don't see > why that should be a big deal or an unacceptable request. Today I had > 173 pieces of mail from the list. So based on the fact it was busy I > can see Alans point. Gaston, Allan wasn't criticising you. You > however felt you needed to criticise him. In that case why not start > your own list if you don't like the very low key rules on this list. > Gaston whilst I am sure you are a really nice guy you do seem to have > an axe to grind, if that is so please take it off list. > > Just my opinion. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:51:30 +0000 From: Dave F To: Subject: Re: vac-forming aluminum foil? Message-ID: <1013680290.3c6b88a2ab541@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" : > Aluminum is difficult to work with because it is not a "true" metal. It > is what > is known as a transition element having some of the properties of a > metal and > some of the properties of a non-metal. For instance aluminum has no > modulus of > elasticity, that is a load range where the metal will return to its > original > shape after being deflected by a load. Aluminum once deflected stays > deflected > and has a tendency to crack at stress points. Still it is strong, > relatively > tough, corrosion resistant (yes it does corrode) and above all light. > Bizarrely, I was watching a program on early morning tv on how BAE make Al/Cu alloys and heat treat it to make it malleable. Interesting (as a lapsed chemist), if ot. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:01:26 +0000 From: Dave F To: Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <1013680886.3c6b8af6d0e4b@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Volker Häusler : > Dale, > > > > Can anyone tell me if Joystick kits are still avaible & if so where? > > > Hannants still lists all 25 Joystick kits as available (only the Phoenix > D > I/II as discontinued BTW). Comparatively good prices as well. > > Detlef Schorsch also should have most of them, even though they are not > on > his webpage. > You can get them from Aeroclub as well. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:11:22 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Gaston Just put a sock in it please. And I don't think referring to other listees messages as 'stupid blah-blah' is doing you any favours... Nor is use of expressions such as m...f... terribly clever either. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf [mailto:ggraf@vo.lu] Sent: 14 February 2002 09:46 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Movies Well, what I want to add is that I feel to be misunderstood here. I did not take Alans request as a personal critic towards my person - I said that I UNDERSTAND Alans point of view and so I do. Second: I DID NOT critizise Alan for anything. If he feels offended, then its his problem, not mine. All I did was throwing in that I would apreciate it a lot more to have something done against spammers and others rather than sending reminders again and again. Fact is, the reason given for stopping a discussion is always the same: Misusage of bandwith. Stupid and unnecessary comments as well as spam is a much worse misusage of bandwith in my eyes than a serious discussion is. But sometimes I get the impression that a discussion is asked to be stopped as soon as the subject line appears to pops up too often in too many messages. Remember: Not long ago there was a virus spread via the list which fortunately got eliminated by my ISP. An information message was automatically send back to the list by my ISP. The spam itself is little to rant about, but our so called "guests" are becoming a serious threat to us more and more and that is what I am complaining about. I am now waiting for the day where list members drop from the list one by one because a virus that came from the list killed their computers... Then you will see that my request to get spammers off the list was right! The Germans use to say: "Erst wenn das Kind im Brunnen liegt, kommt der Deckel drauf" (only when the child fell into the well, one puts a lid on it) I think the correct English equivalent to it is to "lock the stable door after the horse has bolted". Third: I did never attack anybody personally. Please reread my messages and you will see that I am saying the truth. I only spoke out honesty what I think. I just see it as unnessary to remind the serious members of this list stopping a discussion while nothing is done against the true problems that really misuse the precious bandwith. To say it again: A discussion about any OT subject is not misusing bandwith IMO while unnessary comments as well as spam in fact does. We all should think before posting stupid little blah-blahs and we should remove everything from the original message that we do not want to reply to. Then we would really save on precious bandwith and we would not need reminders from big brother Al. Unfortunately some peoiple just don't care about that. Am I really so wrong with that, folks? Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gaston and others, from what I read all Allan asked was "that we stop > the movie thread" since it had got too far off subject. I don't see > why that should be a big deal or an unacceptable request. Today I had > 173 pieces of mail from the list. So based on the fact it was busy I > can see Alans point. Gaston, Allan wasn't criticising you. You > however felt you needed to criticise him. In that case why not start > your own list if you don't like the very low key rules on this list. > Gaston whilst I am sure you are a really nice guy you do seem to have > an axe to grind, if that is so please take it off list. > > Just my opinion. > > > > This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:17:18 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: <008d01c1b540$c84e65c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dear Gaston > Well, what I want to add is that I feel to be misunderstood here. Everybody feels that way some times, but let's keep the head cool, mon ami gaulois! > I did not > take Alans request as a personal critic towards my person - I said that I > UNDERSTAND Alans point of view and so I do. So I understood, but when you wrote about masters, dogs and other things, it sounded a bit harsh, don't you think? Put yourself into Al's or Michael's shoes for a moment, and think on how they would feel after a phrase like this. > All I did was throwing in that I would apreciate > it a lot more to have something done against spammers and others rather than > sending reminders again and again. I'm with you about spammers: they are annoying. However I can't see the connection with Al's comments. He tries to keep the list focused, not to force it into uniformity. If he would do so, man, I'd be outta here long ago. > We all should think before posting stupid little blah-blahs and we should > remove everything from the original message that we do not want to reply to. > Then we would really save on precious bandwith and we would not need > reminders from big brother Al. Unfortunately some peoiple just don't care > about that. So I've done here, but anyhow I feel that I should be writing about Nieuports and Sopwith instead of this. So I'll try to be concise: I'm with you, but you must try to be more polite to another friend who's doing a job for all of us, for free. And one thing that raises the hairs of my head is to read the word "stupid" in the list messages. I'm here for relax! D. let's sit down a crack a coldie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:23:02 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: All Quiet on the Western Front Message-ID: <00b701c1b541$9547d8e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Warren! > Yes, a very good diorama subject. That scene is in niether of my > copies of the book. :( Too bad! During that scene the soldiers say unspeakable things about guys named Warren. Seriously! > In "WestFront 1918" there is a scene which I think would make a good > diorama: > A group of German Soldaten are using a truck/lorry to power a saw for a > "field sawmill" making crosses and caskets. One of the best scenes in the > movie IMHO, and very modelable. Does anybody manufacture a 54mm/1/32nd/1/35 > German truck or lorry from the WWI period? There's a Reviresco 1/72 german truck, a Daimler, that is rough, but in the cardboard header of the kit, there's a nice 3 view drawing of the subject. I wonder from where they would have get it! As an aside, I have somewhere some drawings of a Mack lorry and I know that there's a kit of this truck, but I can't recall the scale. Maybe it's in the AFV BBQ pages. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:28:11 +0000 From: Dave F To: Subject: Movie wars Message-ID: <1013682491.3c6b913b8d220@netmail.pipex.net> Guys ! STOP ! Or take it to email. It is boring, we are not going to get anywhere and IT IS OFF TOPIC. We do not want to lose this facility, which we could do if one of Allan's bosses saw some of the recent posts. Agree to disagree, please. The rules are there to help us, please stick to them Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:36:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <010301c1b543$824857e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ross laments: > At present Ionly have 2 thickness of sheet plastic. Neither the size you > have recommended. So its a trip to the shop for me and buy some at the > recommended thickness. If you're going to do it before Shane arrives with his G string and a suitcase full of plastic, you can always glue two small pieces of sheet togheter with liquid cement, and work with that. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:39:28 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Enough, already. Please remind me how to unsubscribe, I'm afraid I just don't have the bandwidth available (in the brain, not the modem!) for this nonsense. N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:45:53 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <000d01c1b544$c6dc1440$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I am going to dig through some of my old boxes of plastic bits and see whats in there. I think I might have some more sheet plastic in there somewhere. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Does size matter ??? ... > Ross laments: > > At present Ionly have 2 thickness of sheet plastic. Neither the size you > > have recommended. So its a trip to the shop for me and buy some at the > > recommended thickness. > > If you're going to do it before Shane arrives with his G string and a > suitcase full of plastic, you can always glue two small pieces of sheet > togheter with liquid cement, and work with that. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:52:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <012001c1b545$a49e6760$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ahh Ross, I forgot! You have the WW1 Aero bulkhead drawings, right? As you may have seen, the Airfix Roland don't have the same cross-sectional shapes in the fuselage, so you must work with your handmade formers as a pattern rather than the scaled down drawings. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse > I am going to dig through some of my old boxes of plastic bits and see whats > in there. I think I might have some more sheet plastic in there somewhere. > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:42:40 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F04EB@SERVER1> ..and if you glue them with cyanoacrilate glue, you do not have to wait much before working on them ! Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego Fernetti Inviato: giovedì 14 febbraio 2002 11.39 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: Does size matter ??? ... Ross laments: > At present Ionly have 2 thickness of sheet plastic. Neither the size you > have recommended. So its a trip to the shop for me and buy some at the > recommended thickness. If you're going to do it before Shane arrives with his G string and a suitcase full of plastic, you can always glue two small pieces of sheet togheter with liquid cement, and work with that. D. --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] --- [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai software antivirus e antispamming di Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:06:15 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <001f01c1b547$9eba4ec0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Rory sent me the drawing in fact. I love that the eduard 1/48th one has solid formers. I was using them as a reference till Rory stepped in. ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:52 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Does size matter ??? ... > Ahh Ross, I forgot! > You have the WW1 Aero bulkhead drawings, right? As you may have seen, the > Airfix Roland don't have the same cross-sectional shapes in the fuselage, so > you must work with your handmade formers as a pattern rather than the scaled > down drawings. > HTH > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ross Moorhouse > > > > I am going to dig through some of my old boxes of plastic bits and see > whats > > in there. I think I might have some more sheet plastic in there somewhere. > > > > Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:06:56 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <002501c1b547$b74f0840$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Yes and keeping it in the fridge is very wise as the list told me to do this a month or so ago. It hasnt dried up. :-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:56 PM Subject: [WWI] R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... > .and if you glue them with cyanoacrilate glue, you do not have to wait much > before working on them ! > > Alberto Casirati > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego > Fernetti > Inviato: giovedì 14 febbraio 2002 11.39 > A: Multiple recipients of list > Oggetto: [WWI] Re: Does size matter ??? ... > > > Ross laments: > > At present Ionly have 2 thickness of sheet plastic. Neither the size you > > have recommended. So its a trip to the shop for me and buy some at the > > recommended thickness. > > If you're going to do it before Shane arrives with his G string and a > suitcase full of plastic, you can always glue two small pieces of sheet > togheter with liquid cement, and work with that. > D. > > --- > [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai > software antivirus e antispamming di > Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > > > > --- > [Questa mail e' stata controllata dai > software antivirus e antispamming di > Planet Service srl - www.planetservice.biz ] > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:11:42 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: > > Yes and keeping it in the fridge is very wise as the list > told me to do this > a month or so ago. It hasnt dried up. :-) > > Cheers > > Ross > I wouldn't say the list is wrong, but I never keep mine in the fridge, and it doesn't dry up. I suppose it does eventually but by then it's usaully finished. I'd say shelf-life for un-fridged CA is about a year. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:14:48 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <013b01c1b548$d113e7e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ah! life was simpler before, right? ;-) The post sent by the listees about how to make the bulkheads are great. I've used a compilation of all of them and that worked fine even for me. You'll be nuts when time comes of making the small cocking levers for the oil and fuel tanks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse > Rory sent me the drawing in fact. > I love that the eduard 1/48th one has solid formers. I was using them as a > reference till Rory stepped in. ;-) > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:15:12 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: Ross, Get a dremel, put a good big milling tool in and savage the middle of your solid bulkhead. Keep going till only a ring is left, then get out the sandpaper and tidy up. Same as Shane said, only more violence involved. Dicta ira! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:22:52 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <003301c1b549$f10d3820$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Hmmm... This hobby costs more and more every day. Never having owned a Dremel can you vary the speed right down so its real slow? Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... > Ross, Get a dremel, put a good big milling tool in and > savage the middle of your solid bulkhead. Keep going till > only a ring is left, then get out the sandpaper and tidy up. > Same as Shane said, only more violence involved. > Dicta ira! > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:22:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <014901c1b549$d45d2a00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! > > I wouldn't say the list is wrong, but I never keep mine in the > fridge, and it doesn't dry up. I suppose it does eventually > but by then it's usaully finished. I'd say shelf-life for un-fridged > CA is about a year. Consider this: You live in Sweden! Australia and Argentina have hot and wet weather in summer. I keep the CA glue in the fridge from november to march! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:23:54 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... Message-ID: <003901c1b54a$15f268e0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I bought one that was solid by the time I opened it. Plus its very very humid here in Sydney which isnt kind to Super Glue. Well it is when you want it to dry. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: R: Re: Does size matter ??? ... > > > > Yes and keeping it in the fridge is very wise as the list > > told me to do this > > a month or so ago. It hasnt dried up. :-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > > I wouldn't say the list is wrong, but I never keep mine in the > fridge, and it doesn't dry up. I suppose it does eventually > but by then it's usaully finished. I'd say shelf-life for un-fridged > CA is about a year. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4176 **********************